#Silhouettes
"Silhouettes" by Merzotnik [Novice]
DDNet 09/27/2024 3:10 PM
@egorpotemkin2011

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.org/rules

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 3:12 PM

Thanks

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 3:13 PM

YEEEEES

vena6080 09/27/2024 3:13 PM

play more map on ddnet serv, gain experience and try to learn more about editor, the design have big problems and gameplay is like old/ddmax

DDNet 09/27/2024 3:13 PM
@egorpotemkin2011

Your map submission has been declined.

maybetheguywasrights 09/27/2024 3:14 PM

how many maps have you uploaded xd

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 3:17 PM

Password?

vena6080 09/27/2024 3:17 PM

this part is not bad, i mean better than planet 9.

catseyenebulous 09/27/2024 3:19 PM

To join the test servers?

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 3:41 PM

i guess this one is a little bit better

gazebr 09/27/2024 4:10 PM

def better than copy paste 26 times, but now the issue is that you took inspiration from old maps which would not pass quality standards nowdays

.freezy_ 09/27/2024 4:51 PM

Making a map usually should take weeks

.cammo. 09/27/2024 5:01 PM

weeks to months years if youre unmotivated or if the map is a masterpiece

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 5:25 PM

18:13 Your map has been rejected. That's what I see at the beginning of the messages. Tell me WHY THE HELL YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY MAP, IS IT BECAUSE I'M UKRAINIAN, HUH? YES, I LIVE IN UKRAINE, AND NO, I REMEMBER THIS CRAP BECAUSE OF MY DESIGN. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MY DESIGN? I WAS INSPIRED TODAY TO CREATE A MAP FOR PLAYERS TO ENJOY. YES, 1 MAP - IT'S A BIG MISTAKE, 2 MAPS - IT'S A MISTAKE, 3 MAP DESIGN - GO TO HELL, YOU JERKS. I LOST THE MEANING OF CREATING THE MAP. I COMPLETED IT AND WAS HAPPY THAT THERE WERE NO MISTAKES. BUT THEN I SEE THAT SOMEONE SAYS I COPIED PARTS OF SOMEONE ELSE'S MAP, AND THE SECOND DESIGN, MAYBE I DID COPY PART OF THE MAP, BUT I CAME UP WITH EVERYTHING ELSE MYSELF, DAMN IT. I'M IN COMPLETE SHOCK THAT THE COMMUNITY I FOUND IS SO DISGUSTING. I HATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR REJECTING MY MAP (I spent the whole day making it, damn it).

balami. 09/27/2024 5:31 PM

the decline of your map has nothing to do with your nationality. we have to rate maps by gameplay quality and came to the conclusion that your map doesn't meet our current standards. while some map declines might be close cases, this one is not a close case, i can't imagine a tester who would want to release this map. if you have further questions about mapping, you can ask here or in

#mapping

. please don't insult us, we are just humans.

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 5:34 PM

take examples from other maps and try to make better maps

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 5:34 PM

we get it you are not happy with your hard worked map being declined

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 5:34 PM

a map usually takes a few weeks or maybe even months

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 5:34 PM

you made it in a day and isnt really good tbh

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 5:35 PM

okey sorry

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 5:36 PM

I'm just upset that my card was declined

oxyzo. 09/27/2024 5:36 PM

this map is better than the others you made so keep improving and ask help in

#mapping
.cammo. 09/27/2024 5:45 PM

list of things wrong:

  1. the background image is static, pixelated and ugly
  2. the dirt part of the grass tiles just cuts off
  3. unmarked teleports 11 and 12
  4. "afk home" just gives u a jetpack
  5. unmarked jetpack and infinite jump tiles
  6. entity spam 7.time checkpoint 1 is absolutely useless since you just started the map
  7. unmarked start line
  8. teleport look like freeze
  9. missing corners on freeze
  10. unfreeze looks ugly
  11. annoying to hook ceiling without dj
exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:49 PM

Never give up !

gazebr 09/27/2024 5:51 PM

Do you not understand that it takes weeks to make even a small good map? And months for newer mappers to learn what is considered good gameplay

gazebr 09/27/2024 5:52 PM

Если ты не прочитал что тебе писали тестеры все эти отказы то следующий раз лучше не будет

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 5:52 PM

excuse me but I think maybe in a month when I get the hang of it I'll make a map and good luck to you!

exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:53 PM

If you need any help ask us or in

#mapping

(you can also dm testers)

.freezy_ 09/27/2024 5:53 PM

Better take yourself time

.freezy_ 09/27/2024 5:53 PM

Like a year or so

exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:54 PM

Isnt a year of mapping equal to half finished map?

exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:54 PM

Nvm

exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:54 PM

I get it

.cammo. 09/27/2024 5:55 PM
  1. first part is maybe too hard for novice
  2. hooktrough tiles look like something you can pass trough
  3. inconsistent teleport design
  4. 2nd part too hard for novice
  5. grass tile bugs on the 3rd part
  6. maze is just annoying
  7. a part of the jetpack part is skippable
  8. unmarked jetpack tiles
  9. some unhookable tiles are rotated for some reason
  10. teleport 5 is extremely difficult for novice since you cant just hold space after hitting freeze
  11. teleport 6 is too long and annoying + looks like a learntoplay copy
  12. teleport 7 is too hard for novice + looks like a linear copy
  13. shields and shotgun are spammed
gazebr 09/27/2024 5:57 PM

I think you are being too specific here xD fixing all of this wont solve the underlying issue of them thinking you can create a map in a day + looking at old maps instead of newer ones

exen9_11 09/27/2024 5:59 PM

Talking so much about this is not worth it because there may or may still be parts that need replacement, instead try to tell him basic info about mapping i think it would help much more.

.cammo. 09/27/2024 5:59 PM
  1. dj in teleport 8 is awkward due to the low ceiling
  2. really hard to get speed on tele 8 if it were a full server
  3. tele 9 checkpoint has no space whatsoever (same for 7 and 6)
  4. "part 2" of tele 9 is too hard for novice
  5. no unfreeze on the speeder part
  6. laser spam
  7. laser part is long and boring
  8. rocket and shield spam on next part
  9. first set of shields is useless
  10. theres barely any space for novice to grenade
  11. why is the last part faily ?
gazebr 09/27/2024 5:59 PM

bro

gazebr 09/27/2024 6:00 PM

Noones gonna read 36 points yet alone follow them xD

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:01 PM

i was mainly responding to the

I COMPLETED IT AND WAS HAPPY THAT THERE WERE NO MISTAKES.

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:02 PM

Just tell him basic info about mapping, not "every" fix

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:02 PM

If i would be him, i would respond !DID NOT READ!

gazebr 09/27/2024 6:02 PM

Well the guy needed the insight in mapping, crushing him with all of his mistakes wont help xD

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:03 PM

honestly i expected to write like 10 cause i didnt spec ahead, just kept writing stuff down as i went trough the map

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 6:03 PM

Okay guys wish me luck I'll be designing a map called "dark past" for a month I hope to get it (and maybe even 2)

egorpotemkin2011 09/27/2024 6:04 PM

xD

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:04 PM

I already told you the best solution half throug your horific words with gazebr

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:04 PM

Gl

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:05 PM

Then write 5 important/10??

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:05 PM

teles 2-4 are maybe the only good parts

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:06 PM

Take yourself more time, 5months- 1.1 years maybe

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:07 PM

For begginers mapping is hard and they need to take more timr

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:07 PM

Time*

balami. 09/27/2024 6:07 PM

1.1 years is weirdly exact xd

gazebr 09/27/2024 6:12 PM

Самое главное не смотри на карты старее 2017 года, в наше время их бы не приняли В идеале бери пример с новых карт своей сложности

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:13 PM

Weirdly exact but i think its in between the not enough and too much

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:14 PM

Im mapping my first map for ddrace too, i hope it looks good, i sometimes make my trashmap server so anyone can have a look

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:14 PM

design isnt as important as gameplay

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:16 PM

Yes but they say desing must be done before submitting

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:16 PM

So im doing it too

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:18 PM

you can make the tile designs and later go to extreme detail with doodads if youre afraid your effort will be wasted because of a decline

texnonik 09/27/2024 6:21 PM

hahahahaha xD

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:31 PM

I am not making extreme detail, only the tilesets that must be included

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:32 PM

you can make grass_main with generic_unhookables look pretty nice if youve got creativity

exen9_11 09/27/2024 6:34 PM

I coloured grass and generic_clear (not official tileset) the same colour and they look great, but bg imo is trash

.cammo. 09/27/2024 6:34 PM

anythings possible, get creative