#Simple_Down_2
"Simple Down 2" by Zweitleben [Brutal]
DDNet 06/27/2022 8:22 PM
@Zweitleben

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.tw/rules

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:35 PM

620 / 144 missing Stopper marking 680 / 365 missing Freeze marking

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:37 PM

432 / 457 wrong color for ht

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:39 PM

sometimes behind HT the bg is missing and sometimes not

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:41 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:42 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:44 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:44 PM

some of the steal beams are missing the ending if u care about that stuff

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:45 PM

you forgot to use high detail

ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/27/2022 8:47 PM

I wanted to ask Zweitleben today "Impel down 2 when?"

ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/27/2022 8:47 PM

That was quick

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:48 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:48 PM

unfreeze

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:49 PM

there too but not needed but you did it in every other place so up to you

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:50 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:50 PM

unfreeze again

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:51 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:51 PM

stoppers

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:51 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:51 PM

unfreeze

Sorah 06/27/2022 8:52 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:53 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:54 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 8:55 PM
Sorah 06/27/2022 9:01 PM

there is another unused part flying around in entities im sure u gonna find it

Zweitleben 06/27/2022 9:09 PM

ah yes, damnd missed that one ^.^

ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/27/2022 9:11 PM

russian propaganda confirmed

Salamon 06/27/2022 9:24 PM

$decline

texnonik 06/27/2022 10:15 PM

Look at shape of map #deleted-channel and colors what they have

cyberfighter 06/27/2022 10:34 PM

another 90 mins of hammerhitting

Zweitleben 06/27/2022 10:40 PM

fixed the mentioned by

@Sorah
Tsin 06/27/2022 10:53 PM
@Zweitleben

now thats pure lazyness (100% lazy mappur)

Zweitleben 06/27/2022 11:28 PM

@ Mr. Tsin

Tsin 06/27/2022 11:48 PM
Tsin 06/27/2022 11:49 PM
Zweitleben 06/27/2022 11:59 PM
@Tsin

what about the last Screenshot ?

Tsin 06/28/2022 12:11 AM
Tsin 06/28/2022 12:12 AM

do something like this or more challenging

Zweitleben 06/28/2022 12:34 AM

Its just a filler part and i like it the way it is.

Tsin 06/28/2022 12:57 AM
Zweitleben 06/28/2022 7:47 AM
Silex 06/28/2022 8:13 AM
@Ravie@Pipou

don't release that crap please

Zweitleben 06/28/2022 8:28 AM

Common Silex, u are one day to late. I remember the good old days where u instantly wrote this 🙂

Pipou 06/28/2022 8:43 AM

I didn't look at the map yet,

@Silex

why not ?

Knuski 06/28/2022 8:48 AM

On zweitlebens previous t0 map silex said that he copied many parts from his maps lol

Silex 06/28/2022 9:33 AM

Basically every part is brainless mapped and VERY oriented to other t0 maps. Had the same feeling on simple down 1 aswell. But i guess every t0 map gets released meanwhile because it get played so ye .. still sad. I just don't see any effort in this, that's my problem. Ofc my t0 maps are not without filler parts, but you always see some new shit .. don't have the feeling here. Kinda miss the 'love' here. It's just lazy mapped.

Zweitleben 06/28/2022 10:00 AM

Ok Silex, I've listened to this long enough without saying anything (including previous maps). What I don't like about your snide comments is that they don't contain any constructive criticism but just say "everything sucks, why do you map at all, I'm the best" That's not an appropriate way to express your opinion and really doesn't help anyone here. I'm open to any kind of criticism as long as it's not made up out of thin air and improves the map. Like Sorah or Tsin, for example.

As a side game I don't just say Bit3 is so fucking boring yawn, 60% of the map is filler and the rest is recycled from older DDmax maps - I think you get what I mean.

Silex 06/28/2022 10:22 AM

rest is recycled from older DDmax maps - I think you get what I mean.

Silex 06/28/2022 10:22 AM

what

Silex 06/28/2022 10:22 AM

i don't

Silex 06/28/2022 10:23 AM

and to make my statement to this map clear

Silex 06/28/2022 10:23 AM

just be more creative

Knuski 06/28/2022 10:23 AM
Silex 06/28/2022 10:23 AM

but this conversation will lead nowhere because it will get released like it is already lol

Knuski 06/28/2022 10:23 AM

best advice

Silex 06/28/2022 10:25 AM

i won't make a detailed analysis about this, a good mapper should know that this is a low effort map

Silex 06/28/2022 10:27 AM

and btw

@Zweitleben

this is nothing against you, i have this opinion about probably 50% of all new maps, just wanted to say it one more time

Ravie 06/28/2022 10:32 AM
@Silex

I agree that it's just another generic t0 map, even design is reused yet another time but saying 'decline this crap' is a bit rude and not constructive

Silex 06/28/2022 10:32 AM

true

Silex 06/28/2022 10:32 AM

sorry for that

Silex 06/28/2022 10:32 AM

i typed cr instead of m by mistake

Ravie 06/28/2022 10:33 AM

also as long as people wanna play these maps and testers wanna test them I guess they'll keep getting released

Zweitleben 06/28/2022 10:40 AM

If you want to raise such a general issue, that's your opinion and absolutely fine (although you should express yourself much better), but then this is definitely the wrong channel for it

Silex 06/28/2022 10:45 AM

i think you know what i mean now and well, we got the case of such a map right here so imo it's the right channel for it because i'm against releasing it like it is

Silex 06/28/2022 10:45 AM

but you said it already, it's my opinion

itsqed 06/28/2022 10:59 AM

i guess you didnt know how low effort planet9 was when u tried to release it 🙂

Silex 06/28/2022 10:59 AM

will get released, just fixing it

Silex 06/28/2022 11:00 AM

and only the design of it is 2 times more effort as this map

itsqed 06/28/2022 11:00 AM

but you did try to release it when it was in that state, dont be a hypocrite

Knuski 06/28/2022 11:02 AM

bit made it for you tho xd

Silex 06/28/2022 11:03 AM
@Knuski

i placed a lot of the design, stop the fakenews if you have no idea

Knuski 06/28/2022 11:04 AM

gz on placing it then i guess

ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/28/2022 11:05 AM

lmfao, i use the same exact design just with different colors for all my maps, where is the problem

Ravie 06/28/2022 11:10 AM

changing colors is already a big upgrade over changing nothing at all

Ravie 06/28/2022 11:11 AM

using the same exact design is just lazy, and if gameplay seems low effort too, what does that say about the map?

ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/28/2022 11:12 AM

I dont think it does matter, especially if its a sequel

Ravie 06/28/2022 11:13 AM

sequels don't have to be more of the same map but with a 2 slapped on it

Tsin 06/28/2022 11:35 AM

beeeeeeeen there, doooonnnneeee that, ended ..... hmmm depends on the player =] players on discord hate it, players in game asks me all the time when new maps ^^

Ryu 06/28/2022 12:59 PM

Just add 2 more aleds and we gucci

Ryu 06/28/2022 12:59 PM

Trust

Ryu 06/28/2022 1:19 PM

Simple down was the most enjoyable hh map in team 0 that has been released in a long while If it has similar gameplay and people enjoy it whats wrong with releasing? Atleast more than 10 people will probably play and finish this map in 2-3 months which cant be said for some of the monstrosities that have been released lately

TearlessAbyss46 06/28/2022 1:28 PM
ᶰ°Konͧsti 06/28/2022 1:40 PM

Mult0map is cool

TearlessAbyss46 06/28/2022 2:01 PM

im just showing that we havent had a new t0 hh map in almost 3months now, the community is starving🥺

TearlessAbyss46 06/28/2022 2:01 PM

simple down 2 could be our next big feast😋

Tsin 06/28/2022 2:41 PM

Specialy noob filter/start area, I love it =]

viny 06/29/2022 12:28 PM

i dont know if you even look at the map but it has some really cool parts, I have played through it and it feels more like a 2p map than a real map dedicated to t0, ofc there are some basic t0 hh parts but there are also some cool creative ones

Genex 06/29/2022 1:36 PM

so i played the whole map with

@<BµmM>

and it feels like its the same part over and over again there are some parts that are cool but its always the same hammer hit or the same swing imo it needs a rework try to be more creative

Silex 06/29/2022 3:18 PM
@Genex

thanks

Astral|Crying🌙 07/01/2022 9:29 AM

Ez

Cøke 07/03/2022 10:15 AM

missing stopper marks

Cøke 07/03/2022 10:20 AM

missing freeze

Cøke 07/03/2022 10:35 AM

missing finish

ᶰ°Konͧsti 07/03/2022 8:30 PM

lmao who deleted f4 reaction

Zweitleben 07/03/2022 9:32 PM

fixed

@Cøke
Moyoi 07/30/2022 9:56 AM

this way seemed to me much easier than the original

Moyoi 07/30/2022 9:56 AM

am i doing it right?

Chikowitz 07/30/2022 9:57 AM
Moyoi 07/30/2022 9:58 AM

the whole map is easy to pass with dummy except for these two parts

Moyoi 07/30/2022 9:58 AM
Chikowitz 07/30/2022 9:59 AM

how many hands do you have?

Moyoi 07/30/2022 9:59 AM

was a bit hard for me to do this part first try, maybe more unfreeze?

Moyoi 07/30/2022 10:00 AM

You don't need ht here, the part seems cooler without

Moyoi 07/30/2022 10:01 AM

was too hard for me to throw in this little unfreeze. Maybe 1 or 2 more blocks?

Moyoi 07/30/2022 10:02 AM

It will be much better if you add chill place here

Moyoi 07/30/2022 10:13 AM

For the most part, I liked the map.

  • Interesting movements with solo - unsolo.
  • Pretty original parts.
  • Lots of repetitive parts from previous maps in the series.
  • With pseudo fly, all fillers feel the same.
  • The design is exactly the same as in previous maps. It is very difficult to distinguish them and understand which one is which. Wish there were more full parts and fewer fillers
Arrow 07/31/2022 5:32 PM

Since on impel down (one piece) there was snow maybe you can play with that a little 🤔

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:19 PM

No, u usually do it from down left with speed

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:21 PM

its not a dummy map, so yes

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:24 PM

its indeed to release the hook there 😄

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:27 PM

hmm... i changed it to ht cuz it was clunky before

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:28 PM

u need to do it with jump and u it hit 100%

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:31 PM

the one in the middle i agree, need some space here before t0 collapse xD but the other two need to be this way

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:44 PM

Yes, i thought of it as well when i made the design 4 Impel Down. But as u remember there is only one lvl with ice. one is with spikes, one with beasts, one with flames, one is a desert and so on... and that was too much 4 me to bring in one map as a design. so i made the red spikes, i added some flames, i even animated the violet poison from Magellan and an ester egg lvl 5.5 btween lvl 5 and 6 .... so sure u can do more to make it more similar to the og - i hope u understand

Zweitleben 08/01/2022 2:59 PM

So whats the point of making a series when u use a different Designs and make a complete different playstyle ? Than congraz u made a bunch of maps. A series 4 me is to have different parts from map to map but u see that they have the same identity in playstyle and look. Like in Stronghold 1-3 or in Naufrage 1-3

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/02/2022 4:14 AM

I dont see any problem in using the same design for the same series

Nyu 08/06/2022 9:22 AM

me neither, anyway 90% of the players are playing with entities

Zweitleben 08/09/2022 10:47 AM
Zweitleben 08/10/2022 8:45 PM
Astral|Crying🌙 09/06/2022 5:02 PM

All ignore this why

Pipou 09/29/2022 10:31 AM

Very pixelated with a white outline

Pipou 09/29/2022 10:38 AM

The map seems fine overall, I will test the gameplay later today

Pipou 09/29/2022 10:39 AM

I agree

Pipou 09/29/2022 10:40 AM

That's not a valid reason

Pipou 09/30/2022 9:41 PM

Change the visual of the sided hookthrough, we thought it was normal hookthrough

Pipou 09/30/2022 9:42 PM
@Zweitleben
Pipou 09/30/2022 9:42 PM

Otherwise, the map seems ready 3 or 4*

Pipou 09/30/2022 9:42 PM

$waiting

Pipou 10/06/2022 9:56 AM

The only problem is the design of sided hookthrough (right above). Should I fix it myself or wait for the mapper ?

Pipou 10/06/2022 10:21 AM

Thought of something like that

Pipou 10/06/2022 10:21 AM

If anyone has alternatives or suggestions

Zweitleben 10/07/2022 12:49 PM

Hey

@Pipou

, thanks 4 testing. I like your proposal! What do u think about the following:

Zweitleben 10/07/2022 12:50 PM
Zweitleben 10/07/2022 12:50 PM
Zweitleben 10/07/2022 12:51 PM

I would not care in principle which one

Pipou 10/07/2022 1:00 PM

Hey

@Zweitleben

, both look good, your choice 😄

Zweitleben 10/07/2022 1:02 PM

Than we take the ez way 😉

Pipou 10/07/2022 4:03 PM

$ready 4

texnonik 10/09/2022 7:46 AM
@Zweitleben

Congratulations !

Cøke 10/11/2022 4:47 PM

$optimize

DDNet 10/11/2022 4:47 PM
Tsin 10/11/2022 5:51 PM

now all we need is

@snail

s calendar voodoo magic =] or calendar voodoo ritual (luckly we have lots of Tee-Sheeps to spare) ^^ just don't take

@murpi

he's nice and we might need him in future xD

Zweitleben 11/08/2022 7:18 PM

quick fix

Pipou 11/08/2022 8:44 PM

$ready 4

Frog(JK) 11/12/2022 3:34 PM

Set to released?

Arrow 11/12/2022 3:38 PM

$released