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300kb 🔥

also please add an outline or something i cant read what it says

it says its made by us haha

notm uch deco tough haha

📎 Bloom_2025-11-21_17-44-05PART7.mp4 (20.28 MB)

📎 Bloom_2025-11-21_18-26-44PART13.mp4 (22.72 MB)

its all the parts lol

ALL THE INTENDED PATHS ^^^^

i slapped a 4px stroke on it and it looks so much better imo

HOW u did that

could you send it

uh sure ill make it not clip trough the image

ur crazy u did that so fast

in krita: right click layer -> layer style -> enable stroke

you can put speedups in this box to make it a tiny bit faster

iuts clipin a bit ill fix it myself

adding a whole layer for that seems useless

mmmm ill try ill firt do the text thing

Added outline to text, added speedup to deep manager

accept my submission :C xd

why not work

D:

tester gotta do it?

Yes, done.

thanks hehe

i love this

My eyes😥

Good map

thats caused bc u play too much :P

lol

;)

1. Put both teles up instead if 1 up and 1 down (in consecuence, the next teles have been changed for its corresponding numbers)
2. Moved the structure at the end of part 1 to improve flow
3. Changed the start and finish line to bg (for some reason they were over the player)

make me channel owner pls xd

left part is useless u can get speed from right

still skippable

You can reach up without hammer

Very fun to play. The design is too bright imo. Stoppers and unfreeze also blend in with freeze. Personally I prefer it to be dimmer, maybe stoppers & unfreeze markings and background.

thanks for the review!! what does dimmer mean??

about it being bright, how do i fix that now D:

also can you accept the last map submission

and what do you mean in the last screenshot with the switches?

and what do you mean in the second one

Remove switches and use switch_open in server settings

Second I mean draw stopper up and down, and unfreeze in the middle

wooooww wait if it is what i think ive been searching for that for a time now

default state??

how do i use it

like whats the parameter or the setting

switch_open switchid

but for default it gotta be closed

then don't use this settings

umm

like the switches pointed in the screenshot are closing because on default they are open

switches are open by default if im not wrong

switch_open set the default state to off

ahh that makes sense now

maybe the open is ambiguous

ye it confused me

should be called switch_closed

idk

Maybe because off state the door is open

mmm yea probably thats it

its just a bit confusing hehe

Yeah just naming

something like this ? idk

uu looks cool

what do u think

maybe unhook a bit brighter and greyer

I'll see

1. fixed everything mentioned by pioo so i wont provide screenshots
2. fixed a skip discovered by Vappy
3. changed the transition so its a little more intresting and not just a long walk
4. added a hook through so you have to hammer him also discovered by Vappy
5. and unmarked convenience unfreezes

xd

it looks quite depressing we tried going with bright colors so it doesnt give a sad feeling

ye

idk if changing colors is a good idea

ik its bright

but its not something we should change because of preferance

maybe just darker pink instead of purple, ill try later to see if it looks how we want but prob staying like it is ye

discord light theme, the map:

at least not as big as the color overhaul by cammodude

maybe darken a bit the bg is enough

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

It's just personal feeling

darkening the bg would require also darkening the tiles

otherwise theyre gonna blend in with bg

I don't play with design at all :D

we will see options

why even have design ima delete all images only game and front tiles

hehe

Though I still think not having them all blend in together would be better

Say unfreeze, freeze, stoppers and background

also we wanted to try with some fog in the bg i just can't make it look good/fit in+ i don't have good fog mapres

wdym

just use the standard one

i told you

freeze and unfreeze look similar

in color

aaah

They're currently all white and hard to tell apart

i mean we can make it yellowish

or purple

make unfreeze yellow

suddle color

otherwise youll have too many tiles with the sameish color

we will try too

and even if it is full yellow itll still look good

a pastel yellow to make it fit

and for stopper? it uses same tile layer as unfreeze, is it okay to have it yellowish too?

heres an example

send me map in dm btw plz so i have last update

wrong file

omfg

1 & 2 - bg darker to not hurt your eyes 👀
3 - New tileset and colors for deep, undeep, unfreeze and any kind of special tile
Also fixed some minor designs issues

finally

xd

ACCEPT MAP

pls

bros rushing it

its annoying that theres not an option to put multiple submitters

1. added lots of design (and added 200kb sry cammodude)
2. added back these stoppers to make the part feel smoother without it felt akward 3-4. changed this part because it was too ez and short 5-6. changed the solo so it fits the difficulty of the map more and so its more unique
3. changed other stuff that i have forgotten (bcs all these changes where made in the span of week)

oh and this is what the new design looks like <3

woo biutiful

oh and added animation to the title and some leafs falling from the tree

i think thats all

you can barely see the grass/flowers, i nearly said you didnt even use them

probably increase the contrast

we didnt want them to be in the way of gameplay

but we will increase it

done if you still think it should be higher ill wait for more opinions

its like this now

that's what entities is for

now you can definetly tell its there

ye that's a bit better

ig just for ppl playing in design like me haha

i love looking at the design of maps

if i dont like it i turn on entities :3

i trust a single person and that is myself, and i made my own entities

:P

2 people already

wait so you only dummy cus you dont trust your duo?

fixed entitie issues and minor decoration issues

i think not trusting your partner is part of the fun

poor guys map submission still not approved, also is it possible to make 2 channel owners so both our uploads dont need to be verified

if not it would be a nice feature for maps with multiple ppl working on it

approved in 3-5 work days

days? weeks

still light

but a bit more dark

any darker and it doesnt fit the vibe

i took it to the limit but what u think

darkened a bit the map fixed minor bugs (reupload bc i forgot some stuff

now

looks like your tree from fuji but mirrored. Has this been discussed with you?

mirrored ?

Hey! No it hasn’t

😂

yes

that dont look mirrored to me

What’s your opinion?

Oh seems like I compared different ones

eh still

Mmm I don’t really mind if he use the leaves, since those assets are free for everyone. As for the tree trunk, he can use it too — I just ask that he leave some small credit or mention somewhere, since that part took me quite a bit of work to make. Thanks!

plaster the entire tree with "Made by Arrow"

Hahahaha

Add credits or remove the tree

I think you have to claim all the credit for the map just for the tree

yeah the first name in list of mappers

Actually, remove the mappers' names and just put the arrow.

"Bloom" by Arrow -# + paproninja & ilija_

by arrow, special thanks to paproninja & ilija_

at least

how do you want to be credited is just a small text at the end enough, or do you want the tree plastered with your name like cammodude suggested

i think make a bg design with "tree by arrow"

lol

didnt know that was yours ill make the credit when i can ;D

arrow by tree

tree by credits

Preferably, remove your names and put mine instead.

I think that way Arrow will be happy.

bc we stole ur tree, i thought giving you the set i made if u find it useful

credited @Arrow for the tree <3

serving lmao

perfection

ive took an hour to make ts shit cuz the outline thing wouldnt work

in the text

1h for a text lol

well i wouldve doen worse to be fair

lol

Perfection 😂

this shit shit which program were you using

tried with krita, ragequited, tried with gimp and managed to get something

didnt even try inkscspe but that one not for this

it's 3 clicks with krita what

I'm so done with this drawing apps i get the sensation that they're not good it's just i don't know how to use them ig

ye but didnt look like ur outlined

cuz u outlined the text

and looked so good

i tried

and got dogshit

this is all i did

oh from there

tf were u doing

i was messing with some stroke selection and shi youtube indian tutorial didnt teach me right

:C

the best way to learn any program is by fucking around in the options

omfg it was so fucking easy

i guess so :C

can someone accep the changes and put it out of waiting mapper?

ty didnt want to say it again lol

Calavera

Bro in the mountain of BG need credits

(ignore this)

this solo is very unintuitiv and feels weird. up to that point map was great, havent played any further yet

XD, bonito árbol ✨

we will wait for more opinions on this

i dont like that the button is inside the totele 6. means that you can accidently hit it when you are positioning for the top part (happened to new player who also tested this map). maybe add it to the top thingy like how cp7 deepfreezes u

so if im understanding you want the other player to teleport somewhere press the button and teleport back, if he falls into tp

ill do that

Made Lwai's suggestion

except u didnt? button is still in totele 8

oops i added the mechanism but forgot to remove the switch in the totp

Now fr added Lwai's suggestion

arguebly harder than the part but probably not intended right

now the pull doesnt work at all?

im so dumb

we legit tried that for an hour and didnt get it once xd

also no clue how to fix it

i think its hard enough to just leave it

seems fair, might even be slower than doing the part regularly

we can try to solve it anyways

i have a solution in mind

ill work on it later today

you can do it if you wanna

i dont know how to

just try to keep it clean ehhe

well i have an idea, we can just expand the wall of freeze a bit to the right so its 3 blocks but only 2 blopcks from ground or sum like that so u freeze if u jump

and cant catch

so i didnt find a way to fix it i only increased the difficulty of doing it

so i guess it will stay like it was originally

cus the jump above feels bit more akward

with the fix

wait ill just only increase it by 1

+1 freeze and frfr made Lwai's suggestion

hmm i dont like the 3 tiles, i tested it and sometimes you dont jump far enough and land on the edge

maybe something like this? (not tested)

i think its theoretically possible to aled someone through 2 tiles, maybe add a 3rd line here if you want to. maybe some crazy speedrunners would go for it to save a few seconds if that is something that you want

i dont like this part, i think it would be better if the bottom platform was more to the right. its subjective tho, maybe someone can back me up on this opinion.

that makes cheasing it kinda easier even i managed to do it with this

so ive tried it and both feel about the same

if more ppl want it right i can move it

looks better

also true

i think being so hard its cool to keep it for crazy speedrunners, if u are skilled enough go for it and save some seconds :D

i think the most u can save w that is like 2 secs

so

i thought something like this, u can still jump in without problem, the tele is out (it was to help player to jump early enough but like this is cleaner and a tiny bit harder), and now with the freeze like this this is the maximum angle you get, so im pretty sure unskipable

unskipable and cleaner

it is skipable :3

soooo much harder

and it was alredy

i can put a 4th layer

cant skip like this

just keep it at 3

not so clean anymore tho

oko

oh and fix ts i have it in my file

u added a third??

i mean

ye on the right

i tried it but testing it it was a bit weird for the fly cuz it was hard to unfreeze with so much above

ill try something

well do what you think is right

something like this maybe??

kind of the same thing, fixing while not disturbing the normal run

im not sure but its not possible to aled that low right?

tested, it feels good

what with this?? the switches are removed but where are the new ones xd?

dw bout it if it works it works

with this i mean

it still works

huh

i changed smth

how wtf

lemme try

it was Lwai's suggestion

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh isee

thats genius

nice

fixed a skip in first part, fixed another skip and cleaned up a part

1. still skipable

but its fine

stop hatin lol

xdd

ur map too lmaoooo

xd

the setup for that is slower so

im pretty sure only tas would benefit from that

you dont know some speedrunners

theyll do that if it saves 0.01 secs

😭

moderate map forced team( its bad for me

1 annoying tp (this is mess/longforsetup if u fail part and wanna redo) 2 and 3 is spacing issue to tight 4 i dont see any reason for this 5 spacing issue again, timing are bad. mostly u will touch tp cus its too tight.

increase difficult just by adding 'tight' is a bad way of mapping.

also its seems unbalanced cus end way harder then part.

Sorry, but the rest of the map has the same problems, so its decline for me.

"increase difficult just by adding 'tight' is a bad way of mapping." yeah lets just add kill tiles and make it insane right?

what? who say about kill?

60% insans are like that, delete kill tiles from them and they become brutal maps

idk what u mean but delete freeze from any map and its become novice?

u are saying that that increaseing difficulty by adding tightness is bad way of mapping so im asking if adding kill tiles to increase difficulty is good way of mapping

same shit

spacing still required. no matter if its kill,tp, freeze.

It's okay to make a map more challenging by making it more fail But when you make it more challenging by making the parts "uncomfortable and tight" that's bad

The map should first of all be fun and enjoyable to play, and then you need to think about how to make it more difficult so as not to lose that

this map is very good and fun

have u played it?

Nope, I just saw that you were arguing and I brought up the fact that triki probably meant it

skip edge hook

Why is this skip real?.....................

📎 SKI_WTF.mp4 (29.99 MB)

Okay, the map is really good, I don't know why triki didn't like it

maybe you should make glass in this place too?

another incredible skip.......

You can skip 7cp and if you fail on the fly, your partner will be in undeep

You can skip the whole part!!! (by doing the other one twice

)

📎 SKIP_.mp4 (31.02 MB)

ive red all the argument. ill try to solve it but for exsmple, 5 is for solving a skip, if u mean that tp, and 3 its imposible to touch if u do the part the intended way, is all setuped. i agree with the setup at the start with the tps tho so ill try to fix. and ill also try to make more spacing but as i said just for the looks

its a comment or issue?

thats crazyy u tried?? or have clip??? i dont think theres time

respectufly u are insane 😭😭 ill just delete that "room" it never looked good really xd

🫶

mm yeah i agree :D that hook not intended to be so hard, its the end of part so that should make it more comfy/fun

man u are so skilled. First one is not that big (crazy tho) second one is crazier. Can i fix just putting a tp in corner???

i dont understand what happens ther

I did it, it's possible, but I thought it was too easy to upload here. I can't upload the clip because it's New Year's Eve because of all the other stuff

You need to do a part once: take 3 CP for one, return, pull the 3 CP tee to the top part, switch places, and the other tee makes a part. When the part is done, take the other 3 CP and return and pull it to yourself. Then, with both of you, just fly to the TP and the part will be skipped

ill try to fix then :P

ye i think i fixed it, just putted a stopper so u cant take the freezed tee to the top

do u know how to fix tho

just did the skip

yee....

Well, I think just adding TP higher won't affect the edge hook progression, but it will make skipping much more difficult

Something like this

i managed to skip with only one hook, didnt evenm need to rehook at end

aaaaaaaaa

if i move the left part some bloks can be solved??

what an english xd

well, in general, experiment yourself, it's hard to tell by eye how to solve the problem

okay okayy

thx :D

3 its imposible to touch if u do the part the intended way its not about possible or not to touch, its about how player "read" the part. Better spacing fixes a lot of problems in this case. First, the player looks, and if it's already messy, it's bad.

i tried to clean up a bit the first part but i dont know if its enough. if u have a sugestion on how to do it, ill apreciate it :D

Fixed skips and did some sugestions:

1. Tried to clean up a bit
2. Fixed skip by putting a stopper
3. Cleaned up a tiny bit
4. Another skip
5. Sugestion by Markus
6. Another skip (😭 )
7. Guessed it? Another skip

I know at least 1 more skip, but I couldn't make it, I'm going to try so that life doesn't seem like honey😈

77_Markus._theskiper_77

can i know which skip it is 🧐

actually (5) is solving 2 skips, so we are 5 skips in, and if u manage to do that one it wouldbe 6

???

it was difficult....

In any case, I proved that there is one more skip)))

you cant even blame the mapper for not considering this

I will blame him for giving the opportunity to two people to go upstairs who weren't supposed to

oh thats from fixin the skip u told me didnt check my bad

STOP ITTT😭😭😭😭😭

thank u 😔

HOW THE FUCK I AM SUPOSED TO FIX IT?!?? pls give me ideas wtf 😩

i think its just easier to make that each tee is forced to be separated at start of part

the thing with the stoppers didnt feel so so good for me at least

So if Ililja is up to make the bottom tee go through a tp or see some other options, ill do it

if not ill just try to find a solution for... that

Just make it so that tee can't get out of their own way and onto someone else's like here

U only see 1 part of the map 😂

mostly just looking on first part u can understand its decline. also u can decline just by looking on preview of map u dont need a a play map at all to understand that. for example map #deleted-channel

so it mean the better a map is mapped, the more closely it should be examined.

But of course, to be sure, you need to double-check everything and do a deep dig. In my case, this means I checked the first five parts, but only provided feedback on the first one because the problems mostly are repeated.

mostly just looking on first part u can understand its decline. uhh no you cant

what if the map is a perfect 10/10 but the first part sucks

its impossible. Okay, its possibly only in 2 cases 1 different mappers 2 old map where first part was created with low skill of mapping.

so if mapper really raise at skill he will rework first part and part will at the same mapping skill. if its different mappers, better mapper will say "what a bad first part" lets rework that or remove.

IF it didnt happens, what i dont believe. i do that:

I checked the first five parts, but only provided feedback on the first one because the problems mostly are repeated.

"what a bad first part" lets rework that or remove. no they wont if its a tutorial

the first part was changed, twice to be exact, and i dont think its a bad part just the end feels akward but there wasnt a solution without changing the base concept of the end

i dont see where the problem repeats itself aswell in 2 and 3 the spacing doesnt matter you just go left and doesnt repeat itself unless im blind 1 the fastest i could retry and i didnt find it annoying 4 the other reason is why shouldnt it be there if someone falls in its just quicker to get back to trying 5 i aggre but the problem of 5 doesnt repeat itself in my opinion and ive never touced the cp idk what your setup is

2, 3 and 5 are points that show you didnt try truly try the map while 4 is not even a valid point

1. cleaned up visually the first part and removed the edge hook at the end so its more clear and fun
2. Cleaned up and forced to be separated so Markus skip is not possible anymore neither any skip involving the end of the part

Also fixed the timecp error Markus pointed out and cleaned up the looks of other timecps among other minor changes

i checked again ur map and problems are still here. 1 spacing issue 2 weird stuff with no reason 3 bad ending 4 a bit unbalanced.

You can keep the 'base concept' and fix this. i can show u in game if u wanna dm me any time and if i will free i will show.

the part is fixed in last version, u checked the previous one, but check the last one uploaded in this chanel

About 3, we tested countless times, you cant touch that teleport when doing the part as intended (and intended way is practicly the only way to do it) and feels good. Its there to prevent tees from skiping, throwing down and holding them there 2 is just a platform?? people can like it or not but its just design and gives some personality to the part 4, now the edgehook has a hookthrough so its more balanced since the hard part is the hammer at 1, and in 1: i alredy spaced out the tp, its an auto part, still dont understand whats the problem if its automatic??. And spacing in the entry its enough when doing the part but its no problem to make it a bit more big.

In conclusion, some things are alredy fixed in last version and the others ig ill try. And also i dont see this problems in any of the next 5 parts which u say u checked so i would apreciate some feedback on those parts if there are really this problems :)

does more ppl agree with 2?? if yes this is the alternative (for me it looks silly but if more ppl like it ill do it)

pinned map not lastest, bot crashed?

Map hasn't been approved yet

ah mb sry then.

its because im not the uploader

ilija did it

so i have to be aproved :(

can u give permission to upload map?

cus look like pablo is mapper ps i mean add one more cus seems they both are mappers.

for u upload or me?

i think only one mapper can, that should be changed ig for colab maps like ours

done

is that doable from tester controls??????

bc i searchjed for that xd

thanks murpi :D

he admin. drop ur lastes map

sec

im finishing fixing the end of part since u said its bad

heheh

reworked the end of the part, now the last hook is clearer to do late, the stoper is one block more to right, the third column of freeze is in the inside, and theres a bit more at top to prevent skiping.

The teleport in there was to avoid the skip but i tried and tested the reachness® of the hook and its unskipable (unless

tries to skip, then he probably finds a way :) ).

Should be clearer to read and play now

nope

xD

smth going wrong

bot again ask for reaction.

triki u tester u can aprove it till its fixed

pls aprove >:D

im not tester xD ps flw me

oh shi it says testing not tester lmaoooo

aprove it anyways, magic or sum idk

Murpico

Up

Don't worry, it was easy😉

oh ye didn't check for that option

😩

any ideas to not bring back the tele??

Well, you can add deep at the end of the part and remove the fly, it’s unnecessary in my opinion

idk

ive got some ideas

dunno

they make it a lot more annoying

i mean i can put 1 tele for now

1 better than 3

Ended up with this design, the thing from the bottom is now more spaced down and right, so more space, and in the top, where there were 3 teles now theres 1 freeze, giving more space, and freeze doesnt feel as tight as a tp

Also fixed some minor stuff and entities issues

even more generous now, cant hit on purepose practicly

bot didnt detect it

mmm

Some balancing changes:

1. One more hookthrough so it balances out with the hammer after that.
2. Removed the last standing edgehook (im sad now :C ), and replaced with hookthrugh. Also removed the hookthroughs in the bottom so its not so easy or skipable
3. Added some hook at the end part so you dont need to fly it through (since the fly is alredy challenging until there and theres no cp)

now

make me submision owner pleaaseeeeeee :C

no

:C

ChatGPT actually made a good job wow

Some visual "reworks" in some parts, so the whole map has the same aesthetics and all fits together + transition change

1. Reworked the transition between this parts, removing the "gores" (no fit), and also gave a bit of space to the bottom part
2. Some little changes for aesthetics
3. Some little changes for aesthetics

priti

atp we already fixed issues found by players, changed gameplay and changed design I think its ready for release but im unsure c:

If someone finds more things its much appreciated

still think this part needs rework

we will see how to make it more intuitive, since its very cool (in our opinion) when u know how to do it :)

as ive said we wat more opinions on this

and we havent gotten them

to be more specific, the end and beginning of the part are good but the upwards sg that i marked red could be frustrating for newer players

maybe just lowering the ceiling should just fix the problem

ill change that tmrw if anyone finds other issues ill fix them aswell

yes lowering the ceiling should work, i think the part is still challenging enough for moderate

uhh which ceiling? i had some suggestions too with lwai's complaint so call me and we see together :D

i thought also, in the up right, there's a tele, but it's floating and maybe can confuse a bit so putting a floor for that shouldn't change anything and maybe it's more intuitive

idk

in the last version it's already a bit changed anyways

weird and messy block structure, I think these should be improved

this shotgun solo part is repetitive and boring. change or improve the part imo

we changing the solo rn since lwai said the same thing

wdym by it being messy you want us to only use 1x1 blocks?

as Ililja said, wdym?? like whats the messy and what not??

theres just a lot of unnecessary teles that grab the eye's attention, making the part harder to read

In the first screenshot, the part moves being sorta cramped / close together dont help much. (But if the part works the best with the cramped style, not sure what you can do to fix it anyways)

well it works really well that way and most friends we got to test the map also understood what to do

mmm.. i guess if we find a way to improve it we will do :)

reworked the shotgun solo, fitting the difficulty and making it more dynamic

you purple O:

huh

no

im blue

i got a free trial for nitro so i upgraded this server ;P

it ends in a couple of days tho

IMO not enough space here for the momentum and for nice setup to start a fly

If there was an idea of getting speed and going right, basically, u can just go straight right

and one more microskip at the same part

Not a fan of using deep to prevent skipping part, and also filler itself felt very unpleasant to do. So u can't full send right, or u crash into freeze(red way) ok, if u r not that dumb as me u will keep the optimal way(blue way), but ur dummy should be left from u at the right spot(red square) so u can easily make the part, but getting your dummy at the right spot felt random. Not a biggest issue, just it made me feel like something was wrong with this filler

And also, some imbalance issues on the map. So 1st guy is doing top left blue square part, then he is deeped, his teammate doing some easy filler, undeeps him in like 10-20 seconds max, and the 1st guy making one more big part again, and, only after that 2nd guy doing his first real big part

U probably don't need that much shields and solo/unsolo, u can prevent skipping shiields, or solo, or whatever just by closing other ways of completing the solo part

solo is cool btw, but very small imo

idk if you really need that stoppers that much, didn't tested without them tho, is it really helps with timing that much?

a bit boring fly, not really have to do much here, might be not a big issue ngl, just saying

And also imbalance of gametime for each players again, after solo 1st guy doing his part and then 2nd guy is just dragging him through ht and they fly away

I don't think u really need cp 5, u can just replace cpto 5 to cpto 4 for both and remove cp5 at all

Some imbalance again, 1st guy doing his part, then deeped, 2nd guy doing smaller part, and what is more important IMO easier part and they fly away again. Yes, the 2nd guy's part is harder cuz u have to undeep him properly, but that's it, the throw is easy and the fly is just a fly

Imo very messy part, especially the red square area felt unpleasant to play. Even tho it looks messy, it kinda works okay, so the only issue is area i marked, give it a few tries by yourself, maybe u will understand what exactly i mean

Also here, u can just give them both cp 10 and the same cpto 10 spot to respawn in, u don't really need separate spawns and cps for that cuz they both trigger the same button but in different places

Had a few "why" moments, which is a bad sign to me, but this map had not enough tests imo, and map itself feels okay, some of the parts are cool to play, so im gonna put it in waiting for now

Also didn't really understood why you used cps and tele but sometimes teleto in cases where u could just use cps and tele almost all over the map

its definetly makes a noticeable difference

we got told to only use cp in parts where its needed

its up to the players to decide who does the next part so it will be balanced if they decide to switch around, we didnt wanna force someone to do smth unless it was in a deep

overall they both take the same time and are off equal difficulty

told that papro but he said it was annoying for the guy who does the part if he accidently falls into tp

we know about this but didnt find any solution that doesnt ruin the original way

so everything i didnt mention we will definetly look into and try to change

tyy for test

lowering freeze fixes??

try experimenting

you need to find smth that feels good

im tryna know if the uncomfort is from touching the freeze or what other ppl said about the "pillar" being too high

the first thing more than velocity was just putting below, but intuitevely we take velocity, we can change if needed but its just a bit of freedom

deep wasnt for not skiping it was intended to do a deep part. I can make the platform bigger, and for the freeze thing i can moove the wall a bit

okaaaaaay ill do it :C haha

i mean its alredy as clean as possible for the part to work with flow so if u have any suggestion on how to clean it or sum ill apreciate

1. Lowered floor again and the freeze some blocks
2. Expanded start plat and moved wall 1 block + placed the hooks more convieniently 3 & 4. Removed a lot of shields and solo (dont try to go back to get shotgun in unsolo, i putted solo in the tp)
3. Remade the start of this part, now only one tp also
4. Expanded this platform in the second deep
5. Cleaned up last drag (as i said, i dont know what was the issue so if u could tell us whats unclean i would aprecciate :D)
6. & 9. Now cant get both tp 9 so the part is still as intended

As an extra change, i also increased the contrast in the teleport, since it was barely visible in some spots with the bg

Prob should put it out of waiting

u can use the wall u already have

u can remove the other stoppers in that part if u really wanted

if both playres end up in freeze its gg

need to either change part or change antifail

if the top person fails to jump in bottom can still react fast enough and if the bottom guy pulls the guy that came from above to him its his fault

unless you do smth stupid you can fail there

i dont really like making it so tight

thats why i just used stopppers

i think its way better using stoppers than doing that

theres at least 3 different ways u can fix that

if u fail with antifail its shit antifail

sure its just style u should do what u prefer

nice part either way

1st one is to prevent a skip

and 2cnd makes the part harder

3rd is annoying since you sometimes take your time before doing the part

like the antifail is there to prevent deaths that arent dumb

but i feel like if you die like that you did smth wrong

whats skip

u could do that then

uhhh will see

maybe its good like that

wut is bro yapping

messed the chanel

lol

Release

I think there should be an exclamation point, like "WARNING, TELEPORT BELOW :OOOOO ""

TELEPORT

mmm ye

i mean a good lesson to always spec hehe

Average players don't learn to anticipate the game before seeing it; it's only through brutal experience that they learn.

uhhh need fast answer cuz gotta go, the warning should be in the fall down or outside, next to the stopper

whatever

hey ) i tested again your first part and for me its not good. 1 if u fail its annoying to set up again for this simple drag. simple drag = fast set up. 2 idk why its exist its weird 3 spacing problem 4 same as 2 looks weird. not optimized.

i spent about 5 min to map and show how i feel, i give u some ideas idk uf u undestent waht i mean. gl

ill try to make it better but imo that looks weirder, and the start cannot be like that its the first part of the map would be weird

but thanks for the ideas :D

1. Spaced
2. Moved red to the right, green to the left, so both tees can get more velocity and its more flowy
3. Moved down 2 blocks so its not annoying to hit
4. Added a warning icon
5. Added extra teleport, that reduces chances of a flow skip
6. Made this end clearer and cleaner, while keeping the skip fix
7. Cleaned a bit

every other request left its just subjective stuff that we tried and didnt look/felt/fit right in the map so, i think thats all apart from a possible tile bug or something

also about (1). What i am supposed to do xd the second teleport is putted, i cant change the fact that teleports dont work like expected xd

i still dont get why youre so fixated at the first part soo 1 its still a very fast setup even faster than yours if you do it with weak 2 and 4 look completely fine 4 is optimized for the timing you didnt like it previously so we changed it i dont know what you expect thats an auto part that makes the timing for the hammer ez

try looking on the map as a whole than to fixate on a part that works as intended your faster setup also doesnt fit in that place at all

i still dont get why youre so fixated at the first part i focusing on one part cus its faster way for release map for me. If he fix correct one part its mean he can expand "correct choices" on other parts.

Rn for me part structure is super outdated like from 2014.

Okay, I checked the rest of the parts and I'd say the first one is the worst. also parts witch i dont like in order 1,6,9,2

how would someone "expand correct choices" if all parts are different

what do you not like about them?

i evolve after fixing that part and become master mapper

i guess you are exagerating i mean 2014 was ts.. -_-

i agree with cammodude and ililja, every part is different, and even if they werent, u are focusing on a perfectly normal structure. I think the important part in structure is that is easy to navigate, and easy to read, and i think it does.

and if you still think the first part is hard to read, the most i can do is this, if i want to keep the gameplay, which i do

this is the most readable way to implement the part

or like that

changed first part appearence some other minor changes and fixes

don't mark this

idk didnt say anything about "hard read". i just say what i dont like what annoyed me and show examples/ideas how to fix. U can ignore my feed back if wanna, im not tester I'm simply sharing my thoughts.

If u dont understand what i mean here its fine cus leveldisign deep and complex issue and its hard to explain with 5 line of text with one screen. Usually i spend about 30-60 min in game with mapper for explain this type of stuff.

same pattern, same mistakes still happens.

It's as if experts who don't know the author can identify the painter of a picture based on the brushstrokes alone.

so back to first part, its worked?- yes, I like it- no. to be clear i repeat what i dont like impotant: 1 start set up(swing around), im talked about move before dummy enter to freeze. not important: 2 floating platform in the middle 3 ending(feels like u can remap the same without stoppers)

idk i feels like u all think im crazy, maybe a little bit, i play this game from 2007.

You truly cant map the end without stoppers cus they can pull into unfreeze or hammer the floor and pull back

So 3 is practically impossible

2 theres lots of floating platforms in other maps whats so bad about this one

And the setup youve shown doesnt look much better

why not

It's not necessary since it's off the map. Nobody will go there (even with practice).

we will have it in mind, but thanks

ye but weird for that microsecond u are there, u can notice, so its weird to not see anything as its laggy

i tried both ways and its better to have marked idk

Actually, it doesn't matter to me, it's pointless to check. You can set the speedup to 60/70 and it shouldn't show up anymore.

it's not necessary but mention this like error is wrong. it's mapper choose to design this or not

yes

no problem no problem hehe ill consider it :D

Missing freeze + freeze in tele

Make the spawns 1 tile above the ground

the bg can be confusing with tele

i can die here in this edge of end pls add speedup with 3

add in cp 4 undeep bc if want the deep back can back undeeped

practically impossible i did it in 5 min. check it.

i changed ending(removed stoppers)

u confirm this is work?

i can tell you right now

you dont have enough time

you unfreeze and hook already let go

but sure ill try

im a bit tested with dummy seeems worked but u can flw and we test it together(im on server rn)

sure

ok we tested and its work.

after this answer i feel like "we will have it in mind, but we dont care" was better if u didnt answer at all. xD

from left to right: dont need speed, dont need the right wall ht at all (you can just dj up) and it feels kinda like you dont run very long for the hammer

with this spacing if they get dragged too much then they dj against ceiling

missing freeze

was already mentioned ^^;

didn't see

oops

its all g

i really dislike that you put a speedcheck PLUS a reaction hook right after a longer/more difficult part. it doesnt feel fair based on the parts that came before it

not to mention you have to remember this the entire part because it's out of view at the end

if it was easy to b back up so they can retry then it might be more forgivable

also there should be speeders/tele so you cant fail the speedcheck

you have this hookable here, but you dont use it for a speedcheck? just use this platform on the left tbh and remove the pointless kt

i like this part but it feels like it should be nerfed a bit to match the rest idk

curve this freeze here, its easy to hit accidentally with speed

extend cfrom outwards to actually force the swings

nice map ^^

map definitely ramps up in difficulty at the end, not sure if it should be nerfed. i think instead the rest of the map (earlier parts) should be harder

missing freez

we were never able to get this part to work. i would like to stand closer to the freeze or even walk off and dj, but if i freeze it messes up the whole part. also the timer on the switch is quite long

also the ht wall near me is pretty useless and has edgejump setup too

oh i see its to block just throwing directly, i guess stoppers would force what you want better (if u didnt want edge jump)

maybe add some indicators to the checks at the end of parts (for me, its not brutal-style map so just throw some arrows maybe at the places u need to go/hook)

going in here is kinda annoying. have to jump around the tele and if u fall in u have to walk all the way back. maybe add a hookable?

this is no doubt the best part, but i dont like this. you force a 4t high space when it should really just go all the way up to the ht floor. and honestly you dont even need the 4 ht in the middle, just make it all unhook and its harder and more clear where u need to hook next

a way to go back here, i hit tele but gorp didn't so faily

probably just CP row above that one

actually, might be better if the ht was only the top half here. if you hook from the bottom, the tee has too much speed and will hit tele, so if you force them to only hook them from above, they get less speed

oopsie

1st i dont see anything and 2 how do u even die there without trying

we care we just cant do that much without changing stuff too much as we like, or for example, changing completly the structure style like here:

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we dont know how to fix the second one, its just slower tho so idk. And the speed, we were alr told, its just putting him down, taking velocity is an intuitive thing, just a bit of freedom

tried some times and it works fine? u can show me your setup if you want but for me it works

its to go up

about edgejump, is so much slower we left it as other way to do it, it doesnt skip anything. BUT about the useless ht? what u doing xd its like the main part, let me show you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441492591165050901/1441493444773285978/Bloom_2025-11-21_17-44-05PART9.mp4?ex=699aa022&is=69994ea2&hm=1cd1b3ffcfabf8ec2aa1ccae6981f97d9915dad54aa57e196c2490e89487194e&