#Depressed_II
"Depressed II" by cheeser0613 [Moderate]
DDNet 11/02/2021 6:38 PM
@cheeser0613

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cheeser0613 11/02/2021 6:39 PM
cheeser0613 11/02/2021 6:40 PM

please help me justify is this harder or easier or similar to my first map while testing thx

cheeser0613 11/02/2021 7:04 PM
cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:04 AM
Arrow 11/03/2021 5:23 AM

here you could just delete the nohook due: 1.- you can use edge hook 2.- move dummy a lil bit right and then grab him when he falls Green: to prevent the hooking from there just put a 1 tele, you dont event touch that part

Arrow 11/03/2021 5:25 AM

i did not play it entirely but, what i conclude to where i played is that is almost in the same level as the first one

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:26 AM

this is ok for me because no advantage while speedrunning this map

Arrow 11/03/2021 5:30 AM

and why not delete it so? its just there to say hi im here

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:41 AM

fine

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:41 AM

i change it

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 6:06 AM

the reason i put this hookblocker

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 6:10 AM
cheeser0613 11/03/2021 6:10 AM
Cøke 11/03/2021 11:46 AM

I think too this is ok, but whatever he changed already 😁 the normal way was easier for me

itsqed 11/03/2021 1:00 PM

dummy can reach the stoppers with a hook before the hook blocker

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 1:01 PM

yea i know this and im ok with it (because its fkn hard 4 me)

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 1:01 PM

i would like to know if have other solution on this

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:28 PM
cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:29 PM

part2 rework to be easier (that hook blocker is just to let player know they can hook when they're inside of it, incase they didnt know)

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:30 PM

part4 raise up 1 block and remove hookblocker

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:31 PM

part7 extend 1 block to right

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:32 PM

part8 extend the length of tele and change abit on rightside, also i let that blue swing become rarely happen

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:33 PM

part9 idk how do i explain what i changed xd

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:34 PM

part12 extend 1 block of ht and let the tele lower

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:36 PM
cheeser0613 11/03/2021 5:38 PM
@itsqed

please help me check out did part9 and part12 still easy to cheat when youre free xd

cheeser0613 11/03/2021 6:06 PM

fix some corner

quaintman 11/03/2021 6:48 PM

hmm.

quaintman 11/03/2021 6:48 PM

Wouldn't it be better if the hooktrough's were a little more evident?

I.K.U 11/03/2021 6:56 PM

not much reason for this 2 tile ht (at very last part)

I.K.U 11/03/2021 6:58 PM

dont think theese top stoppers needed

I.K.U 11/03/2021 6:58 PM

its already quite easy

I.K.U 11/03/2021 6:59 PM

cp 3 and 13 are way gayer then most parts

I.K.U 11/03/2021 6:59 PM

makes the map little unbalanced

I.K.U 11/03/2021 7:00 PM

cp 13 has bit too much hook blocker

I.K.U 11/03/2021 7:02 PM

its way too easy for the dummy to slide under the stoppers

itsqed 11/03/2021 9:17 PM

its probably so you dont put him on edge and cheat

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:24 PM

this is my debrief, Some part are interesting but some of them are just a copy from drepressed 1 or other barren like map + Parts are not balanced design of the map needs a better color palette (darkoort and pipou agree), we can’t differentiated HookThrough with UnHookable + Maybe add logo at start(name of the map and the mapper)

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:25 PM

this is cheatable + blocker useless

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:26 PM

part cheatable and the stopper suck in the real way

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:27 PM

to much entities in the map ex: the unhook is useless

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:27 PM

cheatable + move the unhookable 1 block to the left so u don't need to use speedup (to much entities)

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:28 PM

little cheat again

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:29 PM

another cheat

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:30 PM

now the biggest probleme, this part have to much cheat 1 at start

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:31 PM

and 2 way to cheat the part and to much entities + the corner in unhook is useless, just replace it by an unhookable

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:33 PM

delete entities pls unhook and stopper are not necessary to play this part

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:34 PM

another weird unhook corner (the swing work with weak and strong). (and a really gay cheat but u can fixe if u replace the corner by an unhookable)

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:35 PM

hook really gay for moderate people, unbalanced part

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:36 PM

again an unhook useless and try to change the tele+blocker it's not optimal

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:39 PM

to much entities and 60/70% of the parts are cheatable

itsqed 11/03/2021 9:43 PM

old parts reload map

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:44 PM

oh y entities are better

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:44 PM

but most of the cheat aren't fix

itsqed 11/03/2021 9:45 PM

ye he said he's okay with most of them

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:46 PM

ok ...

VéNa 11/03/2021 9:50 PM

i understand some little skip are ok but this part ? just add teleport doesn't fixe anything ? and still can't see with this entities

Cøke 11/03/2021 10:34 PM

hm map not updated? some of the cheats already fixed

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 12:50 AM

for weak sometimes dummy will swing inside the stopper and i didnt hope this “sometimes” happen

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 12:56 AM

literally all of it still possible, qed tried

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 12:57 AM

difference is just some of the cheat become more risky to perform in run

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 1:24 AM

for weak hook if they fail to gain falling speed like this it will block but doesnt matter to strong, same for me i dont hope this kind of "sometimes" happen due to strong weak difference (even i allow to spec)

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:08 AM

actually it already impossible to edge that on where i put speedup but who knows, i put it just in case there are lucky person in a million that skill are not able to do multiple run in a short time and get that edge then ragequit

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:16 AM
cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:17 AM

logo add (thx Cøke) and adjust abit on background color + let unhook brighter

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:18 AM

part5 speedup removed

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:21 AM

part12 extend 2 block for more reaction time

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:22 AM

part13 remove 2 hookblocker for now (idk will i add back in future or not)

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:23 AM

and also low alpha for freeze

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:55 AM

wrong upload sorry

Cøke 11/04/2021 10:30 AM

Ok, but I think it's not a big problem when u can do other ways in a moderate map

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 10:43 AM

ye

VéNa 11/04/2021 2:21 PM

ok map is fine like this just cp 10 u can jump for speed but suck with weak for moderate people but replace the corner unhook in the cp 8 + change entities

VéNa 11/04/2021 2:22 PM
VéNa 11/04/2021 2:22 PM

u can do like this

VéNa 11/04/2021 2:22 PM
VéNa 11/04/2021 2:23 PM

the teleport was useless and to much unhook + the corner ( it work) the only probleme is the 2 cheats still there

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:23 PM

lemme think about this

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 2:24 PM

both cheat is ok for me

VéNa 11/04/2021 2:26 PM

ok

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 4:38 PM

now i remember why i put the corner like that

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 4:41 PM

it is possible to pass with weak but I dont like the feel when other fail this and not knowing why (me also dont know)

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 4:42 PM

that corner would not change anything about the flow and people never know weak will happen something like what i shown so why cant i keep it

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:43 PM
cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:45 PM

forget about those player that not play with dummy, the one who need to know something like this i mention before is who play part1,3,5,7... so i remove on part2 and add on part3

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:48 PM

my final solution for part8, it work for strong and weak, so far I didnt saw any unreasonable fail when i test it, please note me if happen

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:49 PM

yea that corner i didnt change to unhook

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:51 PM

part9 move 1 block left, i dont think it have any difference for pro but it become easier for low level player (force them release hook earlier to have more falling speed before tap rehook)

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:53 PM

part10 i move tele to right incase some unlucky guy drop on old tele placement

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:53 PM

yes its me

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 5:56 PM

and something i forget to mention before when i update, i move finish more far to avoid solo pass

cheeser0613 11/04/2021 6:08 PM
cheeser0613 11/04/2021 6:49 PM
cheeser0613 11/04/2021 6:50 PM

part8

VéNa 11/05/2021 10:52 AM

need better jump + hook later = work

cheeser0613 11/05/2021 12:08 PM
cheeser0613 11/05/2021 12:11 PM

note that failrate of part7 for normal player is far higher than other part, so i decide to make first hook simple like this

cheeser0613 11/05/2021 12:12 PM

prevent stupid die on part10

cheeser0613 11/05/2021 12:13 PM

remove 1 hookt on part13

Cøke 11/05/2021 12:29 PM
@louis

they dont like ur design 😮 maybe they dont know the old 😄

cheeser0613 11/05/2021 12:31 PM

no i do let bg become abit brighter and unhook not bright enough, so its hard to spot which is ht and unhook

VéNa 11/05/2021 12:36 PM

+1

Cøke 11/05/2021 12:37 PM
Cøke 11/05/2021 12:38 PM

fixed the logo

cheeser0613 11/06/2021 5:51 PM
cheeser0613 11/06/2021 5:52 PM

part7

cheeser0613 11/06/2021 5:52 PM

part14

Agente da Areia Vermelha 11/07/2021 12:40 AM

im so excited, depressed 1 is good, cant imagine how this one is gonna be

cheeser0613 11/07/2021 2:18 AM

then youll be disappointed

lynn 11/08/2021 10:44 AM

why didnt u just say "depressed"

cheeser0613 11/08/2021 10:55 AM

how if he is insane player and findout my map is boring

cheeser0613 11/10/2021 9:08 AM

little changes on the border

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:27 AM

not needed, but its ok if u keep it

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:34 AM

old one i force them to do a late hook so its hookt, but now im ok for those want early hook so ill keep it

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:34 AM

both acceptable for me

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:35 AM

👍

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:35 AM

im not sure about the orange end

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:35 AM

maybe make it smaller xd

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:36 AM

and the shadow looks not good when u zoom out, there is an other way to do it better

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:36 AM

para x and y , like u did with the moon

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:38 AM

map should be ready after this

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:39 AM

$waiting

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:40 AM

wdym orange end

Cøke 11/15/2021 11:42 AM
cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:47 AM

the shadow will looks more weird after adding para x due to clip, or just i have no idea how to fix this

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:49 AM

sadly cant add para x y to the clipping

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:57 AM
cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:58 AM

detail "yes" for the moon and star

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:59 AM

and removed the last "turn off entities"

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 11:59 AM

other same

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:00 PM

didnt make changes on zoom out weird look

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:02 PM

or is it acceptable if i let the end fit the max zoom out view?

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:02 PM
@Cøke
cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:16 PM

to something like this

Cøke 11/15/2021 12:20 PM

yeah

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:26 PM
cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:28 PM

should be also being fixed for 21:9

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 12:28 PM

if im not miss calculated

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 2:17 PM
cheeser0613 11/15/2021 2:17 PM

manually change the random block

cheeser0613 11/15/2021 2:18 PM
DarkOort 11/15/2021 9:37 PM
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DarkOort 11/15/2021 9:37 PM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:08 AM

able to solo finish if it become closer, so no

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:12 AM

i dont see any problem on this tele and not annoying imo, just need to step more back before jump, no

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:13 AM

ok ill remove it if you really want it to be clean

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:30 AM

let them get misdirection is part of the fun i guess, im ok with this

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:31 AM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:31 AM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 3:32 AM
DarkOort 11/16/2021 7:22 AM

Then place it upper to avoid solo finish but it's actually to far

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:27 AM

ok but only few block closer, i dont want it to be too high

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:31 AM

because its not that far for me

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:47 AM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:48 AM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:48 AM

closer now

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:48 AM
cheeser0613 11/16/2021 7:48 AM

please note me if it is possible, so far impossible for me

NoyrEx 11/16/2021 4:11 PM

tried several times, but no success. maybe just me nobo xd

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 4:13 PM

so far i think its impossible

NoyrEx 11/16/2021 4:14 PM

just no way to get enough speed

cheeser0613 11/16/2021 4:19 PM

but what i scare is some pro do something i cant even imagine then magic happen

cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:11 PM

fixed some corner

cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:12 PM

the wall move 1 block to right and add a tele

cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:16 PM
cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:20 PM
Cøke 11/19/2021 7:21 PM

$optimize

DDNet 11/19/2021 7:21 PM
Cøke 11/19/2021 7:22 PM

$ready 5

FeaRZ 11/19/2021 7:34 PM

Why this map was released and tested faster than mine?

cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:35 PM

xd

Cøke 11/19/2021 7:38 PM

There is no order that has to be followed, everyone tests what he feels like, sorry that it takes a little longer.

texnonik 11/19/2021 7:52 PM

congratulations

@cheeser0613

2nd map ! I have 2 maps to ) <3

cheeser0613 11/19/2021 7:55 PM

thx for tex senpai

FrosTribe 11/20/2021 12:08 AM

good job

NoyrEx 11/20/2021 7:25 AM

Nice

Welshi 11/20/2021 4:54 PM

Congratz :0!

cheeser0613 11/21/2021 9:34 AM

then this map release exactly on my exam date

cheeser0613 11/21/2021 9:34 AM

real depressed

Sorah 11/21/2021 4:01 PM
@cheeser0613

you can ask snail for another date if you want

cheeser0613 11/21/2021 4:02 PM

no need xd

snail 11/22/2021 2:02 PM
snail 11/22/2021 2:02 PM

just play the map

snail 11/22/2021 2:02 PM

who cares about studying

cheeser0613 11/22/2021 2:35 PM

tru

cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:02 PM
cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:03 PM
cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:04 PM
cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:04 PM

1block lower

cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:04 PM
cheeser0613 12/03/2021 5:04 PM
@snail@Cøke
Cøke 12/03/2021 5:05 PM

ok

Cøke 12/03/2021 5:05 PM

$ready

snail 12/03/2021 7:01 PM

done