#Extacy
"Extacy" by Lýrø× [Novice]
DDNet 01/30/2021 8:16 PM
@Lýrø×

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.tw/rules

Extacy.map
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DDNet 01/30/2021 8:16 PM
PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:21 PM

much better than previous map! big improvement!

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:22 PM

ill check out later

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:25 PM

remove

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:25 PM
PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:26 PM

armor needs to be spread out

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:27 PM

add freeze over the lazer in the front layer

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:30 PM

massive difficulty spike, make this easier

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:32 PM

make teleporters

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:33 PM

part skippable

wsike🦩 01/30/2021 8:34 PM

oh most important, dont rush maps

wsike🦩 01/30/2021 8:35 PM

better be slow but the map will be actually feeling like it was put effort in

wsike🦩 01/30/2021 8:35 PM
PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:35 PM

dont use the entities tileset, it's not that good

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:36 PM

dont fill in areas with tele

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:37 PM

you can stand on the sides of the pillars

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:38 PM

and put "to teles" midair

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:39 PM

tees still have jetpack

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:41 PM

if you get speed with jetpack the part is skipable

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:41 PM

game layer isnt complete

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 8:41 PM
texnonik 01/30/2021 9:12 PM

don't copy parts , create one nice part , make 2nd nice part and so on don't copy one same think over and over look other released maps ( play )

texnonik 01/30/2021 9:12 PM

map is too small

texnonik 01/30/2021 9:12 PM

$decline

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 10:11 PM

:/

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 10:11 PM

¯_(ツ)_/¯

PopCorn181 01/30/2021 10:11 PM

very normal

FrosTribe 01/31/2021 2:17 AM
@Lýrø×

you can post ur updated here

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:17 AM

yoo i fixed everuthing

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:17 AM

thanks

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:17 AM

and had a tester test it

FrosTribe 01/31/2021 2:17 AM

Post it here on this channel

FrosTribe 01/31/2021 2:18 AM

The submit channel is when u post it the first time. Then it opens this channel where u can submit ur changes

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:18 AM

" Extacy " by Lýrø× [Novice]

Extacy.map
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FrosTribe 01/31/2021 2:18 AM
Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:18 AM

oh i see thanks

FrosTribe 01/31/2021 2:19 AM

Np!

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 7:33 AM

this map has an old design, even if it has no bugs and errors, it cannot be release with such a design, play recent maps in a novice style and you will see and may even be inspired to mix new designs! , well, I hope you can do that , and also the map is very small, not to mention that the map is full of repetitive parts, in addition to not having a decent background,the map its a copy past , that is, the map will be declined, unless you can change everything and enlarge the map.

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 7:35 AM

I see that a creator like you can improve much faster than many others, and nobody really gets it right the first time, I see a future for your new projects.

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 7:35 AM
JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 7:42 AM

--resume-- good what should change for the better:

1 - design, play recent maps, be creative;

2 - make a bigger map, very small maps destroy the player's experience;

3 - place a cool background, like a sky with clouds, at night with stars, in a creative way;

4 - Do not make repetitive parts, just like step 2, this spoils the player's experience;

5 - improve the gameplay of the map, so as not to make the player bored;

6 - keep improving always, your day will come.

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 7:46 AM
@Lýrø×

I hope what I said I can help you

Cøke 01/31/2021 12:32 PM
@JoaoGardaBro

u are the new mappers mentor without having one map? 😄 Nice

wsike🦩 01/31/2021 12:55 PM

huh i thought everyone can test maps

Cøke 01/31/2021 12:57 PM

Ofc.. It is not an insult or anything like that, just an observation

wsike🦩 01/31/2021 12:57 PM
wsike🦩 01/31/2021 12:57 PM

ye

wsike🦩 01/31/2021 12:57 PM

kinda funny at some point

wsike🦩 01/31/2021 12:58 PM

can't wait for his first map xd

Cøke 01/31/2021 12:59 PM

It should come without any major bugs

FrosTribe 01/31/2021 1:10 PM
FrosTribe 01/31/2021 1:10 PM

i always have bugs in my maps :'c even if they look cool they shit :'c full of corners thingy

wsike🦩 01/31/2021 1:32 PM

mappers nightmare 😿

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:13 PM

map can be done solo, try changing gameplay at some sections.

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:13 PM

i'll check the new version of the map later.

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:16 PM

i've checked update, and the map is much better!

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:17 PM

but, there are still some needed changes

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:17 PM

first, make this shotgun part have unhookable tiles

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:18 PM

second, the laser part is still, extremely difficult, maybe reduce the amount of lasers to 3 or 2 to keep the map on a novice difficulty level

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:19 PM

and make freeze be 2 blocks wide or players can aled

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:21 PM

third, put armor here

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:22 PM

add unfreeze here

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:28 PM

part skippable with dummy

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:28 PM

slingshot off ceiling and hammer dummy with dummy copy, hard but possible skip.

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:29 PM

remove grenade

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:30 PM

armor

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:30 PM

i forgot to mention, put a turn off entities sign

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 2:31 PM

thanks man

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:31 PM

no problem :D

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:32 PM

ok

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:34 PM

im about done testing this map so here are a few smaller minor bugs

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:35 PM

bottom tee can cheat and still obtain shotgun

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:36 PM

can unfreeze tee here with hammer and skip part

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:36 PM

not needed

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:37 PM

add a block where my tee is hooking onto

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:38 PM

and add unfreeze up top too

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:39 PM

skip

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:39 PM

remove shotgun

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:40 PM

remove insta death tiles in endroom

PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:40 PM
PopCorn181 01/31/2021 2:43 PM

i'd reccomend using a different tileset for this map, such as ddnet_walls or make new freeze design, I think the map could possibly get released, just fix skips, change tileset, and make gameplay more fun, there was a map similar to this called "simpleblocks" that started out bad, but now its released.

174 01/31/2021 3:20 PM

a map can start out mediocre and turn out to be a good map, but it is very unlikely when you are just starting playing ddrace. this would need a lot of time and a lot of more feedback. what's way easier is that you first gain more experience seeing what recently has been released and then returning to mapping. right now there is no chance this is good enough for a release, I fear the map has not one part that would be good enough. you use a lot of repetition (especially laser part) and the drag parts are very 10 years ago ddmax style. the drag part afterwards is very long and repetitive, and the other player just only has to hook once afterwards. try to balance out gameplay time for both players. the grenade solo is faily because you can land on edges, and again so much repetition. everything is very tight. compare it with a recent map like Pounamu 2 (which you have played), it has a lot more space and more interesting parts. also the design is not very exciting, the hookable tiles have holes that looks distracting, you can put walls behind the tiles to hide holes.

i think in modern times there's really not a way for a new player to expect to create a quality map, not because they are bad or something, but they just need more experience and time. so don't feel sad when this won't get released. you can always play your maps with friends on https://trashmap.timakro.de/, they can even give you some feedback and tell you what they like. so play more maps and find out what kind of parts excite you while playing, making similar parts (but not copies) will likely work great to create fun parts.

174 01/31/2021 3:20 PM

$decline

Lýrø× 01/31/2021 4:48 PM
@174

im not new though i have alot of names i played since 2014

174 01/31/2021 5:07 PM

if you play since 2014 than is that the best you can produce? it's not really an argument that works well here in your favour. but I don't want to down you, it's very simple, playing and mapping is different and you have to gain more mapping experience. Lavender Forest, Firewatch now even, all these maps work well and a lot of people like them, and releasing a very old-school style novice would probably not be well received by the community. bestest of luck to you, though 😃

@Lýrø×
PopCorn181 01/31/2021 5:10 PM

I personally think the main issue with this map is this map is the tilesets you chose. In ddnet, you can create your own tilesets for tw, or find some ones you really like on the ddnet.tw forums, https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewforum.php?f=42.

174 01/31/2021 5:16 PM
@PopCorn181

the tileset is surely not the main issue with this map. imagine Kobra but with bad tileset, we would say "nice gameplay, but make the design less eye-raping". the biggest problem with the map is that there was a bit of basic gameplay and that was stretched & copy pasted to fill a full rectangle. except the 2 last drag parts, that's basically what applies and the second biggest problem is these very basic oldschool drag parts, they are just not appreciated anymore. they can be fun if used correctly, but just making them long with tight corners is just below the standards

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 6:16 PM

yeah man , over time I learned a lot about the editor

Cøke 01/31/2021 6:16 PM

i hope u come up with a good one

JoaoGardaBro 01/31/2021 6:17 PM

👍