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Imo, I'd remove the freezes inside of the wood tiles
rework this
in my opinion, stoppers look bad
look like stars
tight
very bad cp placing in the whole map, here a example how to do it
indeed, fixing it rn
the cto's too
place here or here
too big for just 1 part, split it
after the big part, i do just this
why its closed?
about that idk, just to make people go right instead of left
imo u can leave it open
what do u think which difficulty is this map?
its very unbalanced
for gameplay itself it's like moderate 1 star, but including length i thought that it's more like novice 5 star
try to make it moderate or novice?
the begin feels novice but after that its way too hard
maybe try to remake the 'very easy' parts and make it moderate 1-3
i guess it would be good decision
ok
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rework also the time cp's, sometimes its skippable or bad placed
Also change server to moderate
$change server Moderate
i think it would be nice to move those cto's
if i move third one it would be a skip, but will move other thanks
skip what?
can u join test server rn?
sure
should be black color because you lose hammer
should be white color because you can hit others after touching it
make mountains also HD
stars should behind the mountains
part 1 was alot harder than all other parts
its also not a good map beginning
there will be too much traffic
if i make so stars are blending with mountain (bc mountains transparent at the bottom), is there a way to remove blending without making mountains not transparent?
Just make the moutain not transparent and place a quad over it
To give the illusion of transparency
Or either use clipping
If the parallax allows it
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Having to hammer with blockers is terrible
You could shorten the part and replace the blockers with hookthrough tiles
It's empty on the left
Same problem here, if the one at the top gets stuck in the blocker
Corneum's multiple height blocker could help fix it but I wouldn't recommand it
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btw how tee can stuck here if there's one blocker gap between unhook? (if you mean that tee need to jump after he unfreezes then why should this be even fixed?)
ugly corners
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wdym ugly
papotav only likes round corners?
Good corners
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nice joke
what wrong with them dude?
ill tell u later
im playing ddnet
No joke, nice clash of clans village
soon
I suggest you remove the freeze in blockers and add unfreeze
Be careful, you often forget to give the new tele cp at the end of parts (just like on the previous screenshot; the tee from under can hit the teleport right before taking time cp 33)
Add more ht
You often added useless blockers. The one under me are useless, you also only need 1 blocker at the top
Useless blockers as well
That part is awkward
Why not add tele cp here?
Think again about the teleports (and the cps so you don't fail or fall into the previous parts)
That part isn't satisfying, it doesn't reward people for going fast, it's frustrating
You used freeze corners at the top but not at the bottom ? Be consistent
The hookthrough and the unhookable are too similar
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if i delete useless things from mapreses should it lower the size of map?
Yes it will
Especially if the images are colored by default
Grey scaled images don't really matter
sorry for many questions, but if i remove all freeze from tp's it will affect on gameplay or optimization somehow?
No problem. It won't affect the gameplay in a bad way. It will look better and it will be more comfortable to play. Freeze (or others tiles) in teleport is usually bad.
Since the map isn't teamlocked you should place 2 totele on each side every time, on the whole map
Possible way to reduce the shield spam
A description of each layer
Cto 29 at the top and moved the shields to the left so it's less crowded
Could also do that to remove the tele
i kinda like tele more
Up to you but then it's messy with shields and tele and weapons and blockers
I find it easier to read on my screenshot
You clearly understand you have to go up
And the teleport is pointless if there are no shields (as you can pass through a second time)
i mean i will take this idea
The tileset is broken
Don't do anything, I'll do something when I can
Flying plants
The grass is cut
Plant is flying
I changed the design
Changed the grass_main and the jungle_doodads which were bugged
Changed the mountains
Changed the freeze tiles which were also bugged
I already changed the color of every lantern
I saw you didn't use the envelope properly
The envelope wasn't perfectly looped and the values were random
If the animation duration is of 1 second (1000ms), it's pointless to have an offset >999ms
You should change the offsets to 0,200,400,600,800 (I didn't do it)
Or you could even chose 0,250,500,750
Place the grass everywhere so it looks less empty
Place the plants in a random and natural way. It shouldn't look like an art gallery where everything is aligned perfectly with the same pattern
Looks very cool
You'll have to redo the freeze/unfreeze/tele since I had to change the image (which contains everything you need)
Do nice corners like that and not like the one you did before (don't mind the missing freeze as I said right before)
Avoid freeze in walls and in the hookthrough. As you can see on the second screenshot, there is only 1 tile (id 116) in the wall to fill the rounded grass corner
I already stretched the mountains so you needn't edit it
Don't change the colors as well
I edited every layer (the wood, start line...) so the colors fit as a whole
I remade the logo (in-game) from the original image
I reorganized the layers and named the groups
I removed the custom zoom
Edited the parallax on every layer so it looks natural
You need to add more stars to the right, there are none (click on "proof" to have a better idea what players will see in-game)
That image is broken but I don't have the original, if someone does. Where did you get it ? Otherwise what are the tiles you use ? I could redraw it quickly if I have the time for it
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Also, you needn't really use HD
But uou can keep it as it is (with lanterns, light, stars and planets in HD) if you want
Is this really that important? Freeze in glass was design idea i thinked it looks good
Then maybe make it look better, it was bad as it was
the 4th planet is wayyy to far to the right to be seen
Move it to the left side of the map
ig its because of new paralax
should i post new version of map rn?
We are playing it right now
Freeze in blockers
Hammer on/off is useless
You can't change the parallax like that
Or was it changed ?
group 3 moon should be under the planets' group
I mean swap group 3 and 4
The blocker's edge should be a triangle (inside the grass corner)
You can remove hammer off
tele is darker here
Add one more planet on the left side
corner is brighter than the rest at telecp 12
Also I noticed you don't put grass in tele, is this intended ?
random cp floating
also here
You could do something like that at the end with a secret room accessible with the ninja
I see you didn't do that but it's only up to you
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$optimize?
No, I hate that on good maps (I mean maps that aren't designed randomly)
It might save 20KB at most
what part of it in particular? I would gladly add more options or change the default behavior to improve it :)
for example I think
should be good practice.
is that alongside
It depends, the resize tool in particular
If I chose my layers to be 500x250 I don't want them to be 498x246
--remove-everything-unused is cool but I rarely use it, I want people to learn to map without it
sounds sensible 👍
What does optimize do already ? I never use it so I don't know :<
I forgot*
I personally think that maybe unused envelopes might be too tedious for mappers to deal with
ah should we move to
#mapping?
That's why I defined "good maps" just above, it doesn't mean all the other maps are bad, just not as mad perfect
We can 😄
it's also minimize any layer that is too big example tile 10,000 x 10.000 he will make it as low as possible .saves a lot space for map
u can add that the bot removes hidden tiles?
maybe u can write something about it
yea
@ReDhas written that algorithm, its not implemented in twmap yet. also things like: 'replace tiles which are fully transparent in the mapres with air' would also help
I want to implement it in twmap, and restrospetively we can optimize all maps. just need a bit of time until I can rust it up
But I will do it for sure, back than it improved like 10-20% fps performance on some maps, it's very much worth it
In theory
@Patigacould also do it before I find the time, basically make a 64x64 bitset array that holds transparency for each combination of "hd on / high detail flag" and "same z value". Than add all pixels of each layer in a tile into their respective category, from top to bottom, and remove tiles that don't change the number of active bits in the transparency bitset. I think this was the algorithm. Tricky thing is accounting for shifts in layers, where I used to have a bug as shown on some maps like coke's 808 map.
Or if you want you could call me up this weekend and show to setup twmap with me, this would help me fasten the process ^^
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sure thing :)
good map :)
