https://ddnet.tw/testmaps/?map=DRace

hope it's good

more transparent clouds imo

it makes too much contrast to the rest of the map

changed Transparency

i like the map (i like gores drag) but there are a few annoying things

dont put freeze directly above it, its annoying to hit it, put it more left or right

maybe put 4 blocks to make it less annoying so you can make just a hook

make the door 1 lower that you dont run in freeze when you get on it and hold d

maybe put a speedup here to make it not faily (i think you dont want to make the parts faily)

why just not add a wall to the right? like this its kind of annoying

put ht here instead of stopper cause you can not hit the hole below when you get speed and dummy glitches into stopper

Thank you very much for the Test :) Fixed everything

and some freeze here

You always want to reduce the storage space from the map, so delete all the freeze under the grass-blocks you dont see

But its still a nice map and i like it a lot :>

Fixed the freeze, the map is 200kb ... think the freeze wouldnt do much xd

Tested the map yesterday. Its fun to play + theres a good pattern in the map everything fits together. Although its kinda short it really is hard imo 4-5* dummy map. 🙂 +1

its not that important but if you can improve your map, why not? Its a work for 5min ._.

just look kinda strange if you sometimes miss freeze in the blocks

Done ❤️

❤️

I like map, dont find any bugs, improves. I think its ready, just waiting for tester to test it with me again.

the fall of the dummy is long, to avoid wasting time, put the door farther away, i think

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707009667573743668/714823306171121675/Annotation_2020-05-26_145335.png i guess its not, in my opinion but +1 for other posts

okay, after all i'm not a reference in drag

fixed it

is this meant to be like this?

edge

change ht like this and and the missing tele style Lenah mentioned and after that i think the map is ready

and maybe add a stopper here so you cant cheat it

Thats the Style

Stopper not needed, you cant hook out there

Thats the Style

But doesnbt make sense cause on some points there are edges

not really

Stopper not needed, you cant hook out there

you can :§

Added stopper

more alpha on hookthru plz

at tele cp 3, u and ur dummy can go into tele at same time which is very annoying cause u can hit the freeze and maybe fail if ur holding a key

platform for cp tele 3 needs to be bigger, its too easy to dj off of it instead of get full jump

maybe remove this 1 tile

i dont think the last suggestions are necessary

$ready 4

oh so everything i said isnt necessary right

yeah it's not like i make maps or something lmao

slayer's suggestion makes sense too, it's annoying to have a fail like that

Its not just cause you map it dont mean you map good

No, now for real, I didnt have the feeling you played the map once, because then you would see that it is not necessary

I playthrough it 10times and I never even get close to fail, less space or even annoying fail

so imo its not needed

• I didnt said they are wrong so calm down

if they're not wrong then why not fix them

and i did play this map for like 2 parts and i said what happened to me xd

hookthru tiles should be below grass layers

or else it's transparent on the grass and looks bad

also ht tiles still need alpha

add unfreeze?

super lazy

idk why there's cp 5 because you basically never get the dummy into the tele

it's not even a part so idk

i would change this

Added unfreeze at the end Made platform bigger the rest isnt necessary, and/or does its purpos

You dont even play the map and want to know if smth didnt work right or is "lazy" maybe get your *** on the server and play it before talking

god damn

I played the whole map and it was fun, nothing lazy or too tight or smth else

if i wasnt on the server how did i get those screenshots 🙃

play the map pls

then talk

how you wanna know that you wont fall in tele if you didnt try

so its "useless"

do not speak from above as if you were something better

i played it xd

how tf are u going to say "do not speak from above as if you were something better" while also telling me not to talk? lmfao

just cause you have an orange name doesn't mean you're always right

you literally cannot get your dummy into that tele

unless you try

this map is short which is fine, but 60% of this map is gores

in that case, the parts should be good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707009667573743668/728262016740884590/screenshot_2020-07-02_09-53-08.png

this doesn't really look like much thought was put into it

i have a reason, why i said "do not speak from above as if you were something better" cause you try to correct someone without even really play the map but nvm i guess to discuss with you wont help anybody cause youre right anyways

you literally cannot get your dummy into that tele

i did

so dont talk bs

this doesn't really look like much thought was put into it

is still fun

Please talk about your perspective and say smth like: "I did play it and it wasnt fun, so i would change it." And dont talk "this looks like" when you never tried

im testing and say my opinion this doesnt mean im right

but atleast im testing

not just watching and write smth that come to my mind

ok fine lemme fix my words then

when i was playing, i saw this part and it looked bad to me when i was dragging my dummy. the ht should be below the grass, or else it looks messy.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707009667573743668/728261826147778691/screenshot_2020-07-02_09-48-41.png

also, when i was playing the map, this part didn't seem very fun or creative to me.

since the map only has 4 parts, i think it would be better if there weren't parts that seem low-effort like this. additionally, when i was playing the map, this part felt a little ddmax-y since it is just a hover drag repeated a few times.

also, when i was playing the map, this cp 5 didn't really seem like it was adding anything to the map

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707009667573743668/728262152238137425/screenshot_2020-07-02_09-53-40.png

when i was dragging my dummy at cp 5, it felt like the cp wasn't even a cp because you basically never fail there. the tele is only hittable if you forget to jump before dragging the dummy (which nobody will forget to do)

i had mixed opinions on this map after i played through it. This is because, while i was playing the map, i noticed there were an abundance of gores dummy dragging parts. while these are totally okay to have, if it takes up the majority of your map it feels more like a gores map than a ddnet map. additionally, i felt like some of the parts were lacking creativity/didn't feel good, especially the last 2 parts.

Wasnt that hard right?

I liked this map because it has much gores parts

I dont remember a map in a simular stlye like this

so I think its kinda "new"

while playing the last part, i felt it could be made a little better since it is pretty repetitive and felt easier than the previous parts

I agree its not an new exotic map but it is still fun to play imo, not every map has to be smth crazy, it is enough that the gameplay is fun

yeah it wasn't that hard, i basically just copy pasted all the previous messages i sent and added "while i was playing this part" to them

i think if u just fix like 2 drag parts its fine

sometimes it matters how you write something and how it comes across

Wuw Guys chill xD

@louis Tele 5 is for the tele wall in the map, it's really important because the dummy would get tped to the last part . It's easy to go into that tele too.

The HT behind the wall looks like shit, I like it more over the wall

Ye I understand that the part looks uncreative, I can change it tomorrow

$reset

I wouldnt have changed a thing but I guess if you want to change it I have to reset until you are satisfied

I playthrough it 10times and I never even get close to fail, less space or even annoying fail

that is not an argument

No its my opinion

bug

after you fix this i think its ready again

Too much and too hard gores

Freezefaller

hello

Ready? o.o

remove left spawns

its probably better if u move these teles like 1 block away from the platform or just make the platform 1 more long

2 toteles / remove the freeze above

this freeze poking out felt kinda redundant since u could just fall thru it, idk

id make a 1 tile space for dummy instead of 2 because some ppl might hold hook for a fraction second more and fail

w/e its pretty minor

remove freeze on wall plz

the only things i think should rly be fixed are screenshot 1 3 and 6

otherwise its probably ready

keep a consistent style maybe

btw failing the one tiler on the right side puts u back at the beginning which is kinda annoying

Everything fixed

$ready 3

4*?

since when do we release maps that consist of 80 % gores? Not to mention that these gores parts are way too unbalanced in comparison to the ddrace parts, especially for ddrace players

its a nice map for getting kog players to ddnet imo

The gores parts aren‘t even good enough for that (straight tunnels only)

and that is not a valid reason to release an unbalanced map

ppl love dragging dummies through gores

I liked the map

btw I tried to cheat last part idk if it's impossible or I'm just too bad

I dont think map is unbalanced

imo the combination of drag parts and failparts has always been unbalanced, but on the dummy server that combination makes more sense (because nobody has to wait)

i think the map is interesting. i also think that not many people will finish/play it, because of the gatekeeping gores parts. unless we are closing the insane server, "not many people will play this" is not an argument.

ppl love dragging dummies through gores

that's made up but for sure gores players do which is why the map fits way better on kog dummy server where it probably gets rejected because of uncreativity

but feel free to release yet another bad map, we are getting used to it

we can't make everyone happy, there will be always ppl that like and dislike every map

would be good if this would be hookable, better and faster for speedrun

should remove this layer of hookable and put freeze there cause its annoying when ur dummy is on there while wanting to do the 1 tile

you can just go under it

nice map

you can easily throw from there, and completely avoid ht

that last throw is a bit risky tho , there is no much space to hook. If someone tries out, it has a lot of possibilities to fail

But it's directly at the start and not hard imo

You too pro m8

and i didnt know it was at the start, sry

No problem and I guess It can stay like that

Mappers choice I think, cause its not a big skip at all

yes some cuts for pros are fine

$reset

so they are not bored

make the ceiling 1 tile higher so you can jump here

isn't it too hard?

^ (make a platform if you give both tees CP5)

looks hard to me

hard drag, would remove freeze on the bottom so you can have more tries (you can leave freeze on the wall if you want to be mean)

or will more ppl do it other way?

you can do it solo but that's fine

I'm afraid cheat is hard, but possible here

Fixed 🙂

um... people have very different opinions about this map

should we release the map?

I liked the map but people don't like the gores thing

Each part is not very well thought through, gores drag after cp3 is bad if you dont have dj. TP 8 part is so ddmax like, felt like you went out of ideas and just tried new tiles. Also this kind of map shouldnt use CP teles. CP4 is somewhat good Design: lazy automap with huge clouds. There are many mappers out there that put more effort into maps, and i think you can do better than this

. Ah and dont get me wrong, gores drag is not the problem.

design is fine, we don't need super duper art

I don't like Gores too but I think we can give it a try 😁

Its 6 6 xD (Laddy Saavik voted f3 i think so her f4 doesnt count)

yea

looks liek it's 50:50

= better release it because some ppl would be happy about it

will still wait for more votes to be sure

It seems like the guys who did f4 are all ddrace player which dont play much gores. I think ppl who play more gores would be happy about this map.

actually brokecdx is a very good player who gave detailled feedback about the map. freezestyler is a gores player, too (at least i saw him on gores).

the Gores god

We have literally a dummy map that is made of gores drag

Anime

We need more

f3

i say f3 map f4 gores

unbalanced

I agree the map is a bit unbalanced but imo decend enough to get released

if you think the gores part of the map is too hard for ddrace players for example we can ask mapper to nerf it

instead of deciding about a release in this state, we might want wo wait what the mapper thinks. maybe the mapper wants to further work on the map after seeing this.

"unbalanced" can't be reason to decline the map because we can fix it!!!

I dont say decline

I say unbalanced cuz of hard gores

and I don't say you did

I cant really say its unbalanced because for me the gores drag is ez af

didn't even see you saying it when I was writing xd

gores is luck

there are 2(?) 1-tile tight places, maybe they shouldn't be there at all

this map is totally unbalanced for ddrace players

at a loss of understanding how you cant see that

ok make it everywhere harder so its balanced again?

idk, I like easy gores

and ppl like to drag afks through the parts

ye keep making up more random stuff without any proof

Its the truth

no its not

There are many ppl like dragging afk ppl

Its a fact

it always happens to me that I wake up 86390 parts later

Its the same thing as you would say there is nobody ever afk in stronghold

on gores it even happened that they told me to be afk again so they can drag me xd

it's like "people still love making towers" xd it's true

you dont often play kog right?

Im literally playing right now

that wasnt the question

and how does that even mattr

If you were playing kog more often you would see how they play, what they like etc.

there is a reason some tw player just play kog and other ones just ddrace

imo it would be nice to combine both

some people drag new players through whole maps instead of letting them learn :(

to get more only kog players to ddrace

gores is a part of ddrace

you have to climb everywhere

you try to release this on ddnet and not kog wtf

and often drag deep tee

whats wrong with the testers nowadays

Zonsa just put a lot of gores in this map xd

maybe we should wait for the response of the mapper before we waste too much time at arguing 😅

gores sucks

because kog maps should be doable solo or am I wrong?

ur e girl agrees with u

its not like the drag parts in this map would be anything special

There are dummy maps on KoG too

though the gores parts arent either

I really wonder what you see in this map

yea because it's an easy map

no idea who that is

The vote is 9 yes 6 no now, fast release!

when I was on a full test server there were literally no people liking the map

Its just that people liking maps are more likely to share their opinion here

gores isnt smth special in your eyes but a lot of ppl like playing it. Kog is always kinda the same...

I saw many ppl disliking this map too but somehow it was ready

only a DDRace player would say gores is always the same

and what's your opinion on #deleted-channel ? I can totally say it's nothing special there

see ezy took a flipplipp map and turned it 180°

It was going to be released until flipplipp checked it

but would you release it?

wtf

WE ARE ON DDNET; IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT KOG PLAYERS LIKE

?????????????

calm down

it does

we are not divided lol

all are Teeworld players

i didnt look at #deleted-channel

I know but can you take a look

ofc we are divided

I am playing rn

you are chatting xd

but later, sure

yea because you keep pinging me

why does it hurt you so much that we want to be once nice to a group of ppl xd

we already have a few pure gores maps tbh

and how can you tell a map has too much gores?

Some gores in ddrace is not the problem. read Brokecdx's feedback, this map is just low effort overall

nvm I actually saw #deleted-channel its bad imo but why does that matter here

I just asked

I didn't say it matters here

I repeat it so often

if it doesn't matter here, maybe don't ask on this channel to avoid spam?

it would matter if he liked the map

I don't think that his view on another hard to compare map would matter but w/e. For me it looked like offtopic. And it would be better structured and less confusing if you asked him in that channel i guess.

In my opinion the issue about this map on kog would be, that it would be unbalanced for kog players. So they might decline it for the same reason as we would decline it (if we choose this reason).

I don't think that his view on another hard to compare map would matter but w/e. For me it looked like offtopic. And it would be better structured and less confusing if you asked him in that channel i guess.

I........... don't care what you think...........................

Feel free to explain why you think that if freezestyler liked that other map, that would help us in this case.

it was end of topic

why do you off topic now

okay we might use dms for that

It was declined on kog before

Oh thank you for that information, now this makes more sense to me.

Hey 🙂 sure i can change some stuff if its unbalanced! If the majority thinks this has nothing to do with ddrace you can for sure decline it. This Map was meant for combining ddnet and kog .... obviously ddnet and kog arent seperated, we all play Teeworlds, and if someone doesnt like gores he shouldnt play this map imo. But more people would like seeing a hybrid of gores and ddrace

are you going to work on this map? i can put this on waiting if you need more time

nobody said stuff to fix

so idk

From what i saw Freezestyler and Brokecdx gave some feedback, but they didn't post screens. I thought you somewhat understood their criticism and could work on the map.

just decline it, i actually didnt want it to be in testing for 4 months

oof, yeah sorry for that :x

$decline

next wasted time .-.