#drace
"DRace" by Zonsa [Dummy]
DDNet 05/04/2020 11:24 PM
@Zonsa
DRace.map
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DDNet 05/04/2020 11:24 PM
texnonik 05/05/2020 9:17 AM
@Zonsa

hope it's good

DarkOort 05/05/2020 9:24 AM

more transparent clouds imo

DarkOort 05/05/2020 9:26 AM

it makes too much contrast to the rest of the map

Zonsa 05/05/2020 10:54 AM

changed Transparency

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Qywinc 05/20/2020 7:59 PM

i like the map (i like gores drag) but there are a few annoying things

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:00 PM

dont put freeze directly above it, its annoying to hit it, put it more left or right

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:00 PM

maybe put 4 blocks to make it less annoying so you can make just a hook

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:01 PM

make the door 1 lower that you dont run in freeze when you get on it and hold d

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:01 PM

maybe put a speedup here to make it not faily (i think you dont want to make the parts faily)

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:01 PM

why just not add a wall to the right? like this its kind of annoying

Qywinc 05/20/2020 8:02 PM

put ht here instead of stopper cause you can not hit the hole below when you get speed and dummy glitches into stopper

Zonsa 05/20/2020 10:11 PM

Thank you very much for the Test :) Fixed everything

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Qywinc 05/23/2020 10:45 PM
Qywinc 05/23/2020 10:45 PM

and some freeze here

Qywinc 05/23/2020 10:46 PM

You always want to reduce the storage space from the map, so delete all the freeze under the grass-blocks you dont see

Qywinc 05/23/2020 10:47 PM

But its still a nice map and i like it a lot :>

Zonsa 05/24/2020 10:35 AM

Fixed the freeze, the map is 200kb ... think the freeze wouldnt do much xd

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Lenah 05/24/2020 12:59 PM

Tested the map yesterday. Its fun to play + theres a good pattern in the map everything fits together. Although its kinda short it really is hard imo 4-5* dummy map. 🙂 +1

Qywinc 05/24/2020 1:08 PM
@Zonsa

its not that important but if you can improve your map, why not? Its a work for 5min ._.

Qywinc 05/24/2020 1:23 PM

just look kinda strange if you sometimes miss freeze in the blocks

Zonsa 05/24/2020 2:36 PM

Done ❤️

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Qywinc 05/24/2020 4:36 PM

❤️

Qywinc 05/24/2020 4:36 PM

I like map, dont find any bugs, improves. I think its ready, just waiting for tester to test it with me again.

DarkOort 05/26/2020 12:52 PM

the fall of the dummy is long, to avoid wasting time, put the door farther away, i think

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Qywinc 05/26/2020 1:18 PM
DarkOort 05/26/2020 1:20 PM

okay, after all i'm not a reference in drag

Zonsa 05/26/2020 5:48 PM

fixed it

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Lenah 06/25/2020 11:52 PM

is this meant to be like this?

Lenah 06/25/2020 11:54 PM

edge

Lenah 06/25/2020 11:55 PM
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Qywinc 06/26/2020 12:14 AM

change ht like this and and the missing tele style Lenah mentioned and after that i think the map is ready

Qywinc 06/26/2020 12:16 AM

and maybe add a stopper here so you cant cheat it

Zonsa 07/01/2020 4:16 PM
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Zonsa 07/01/2020 4:16 PM

Thats the Style

Zonsa 07/01/2020 4:16 PM

Stopper not needed, you cant hook out there

Lenah 07/01/2020 4:17 PM

Thats the Style

@Zonsa

But doesnbt make sense cause on some points there are edges

Zonsa 07/01/2020 4:17 PM

not really

Qywinc 07/01/2020 5:24 PM

Stopper not needed, you cant hook out there

@Zonsa

you can :§

Zonsa 07/01/2020 6:01 PM

Added stopper

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louis 07/02/2020 12:18 AM

more alpha on hookthru plz

louis 07/02/2020 12:19 AM

at tele cp 3, u and ur dummy can go into tele at same time which is very annoying cause u can hit the freeze and maybe fail if ur holding a key

louis 07/02/2020 12:20 AM

platform for cp tele 3 needs to be bigger, its too easy to dj off of it instead of get full jump

Slayzn 07/02/2020 8:44 AM

maybe remove this 1 tile

Qywinc 07/02/2020 10:05 AM

i dont think the last suggestions are necessary

Qywinc 07/02/2020 10:05 AM

$ready 4

louis 07/02/2020 2:02 PM

oh so everything i said isnt necessary right

louis 07/02/2020 2:03 PM

yeah it's not like i make maps or something lmao

louis 07/02/2020 2:04 PM

slayer's suggestion makes sense too, it's annoying to have a fail like that

Qywinc 07/02/2020 2:10 PM

Its not just cause you map it dont mean you map good

Qywinc 07/02/2020 2:11 PM

No, now for real, I didnt have the feeling you played the map once, because then you would see that it is not necessary

Qywinc 07/02/2020 2:12 PM

I playthrough it 10times and I never even get close to fail, less space or even annoying fail

Qywinc 07/02/2020 2:12 PM

so imo its not needed

Qywinc 07/02/2020 2:13 PM
  • I didnt said they are wrong so calm down
louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

if they're not wrong then why not fix them

louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

and i did play this map for like 2 parts and i said what happened to me xd

louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM
louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

hookthru tiles should be below grass layers

louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

or else it's transparent on the grass and looks bad

louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

also ht tiles still need alpha

louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM
louis 07/02/2020 2:52 PM

add unfreeze?

louis 07/02/2020 2:53 PM
louis 07/02/2020 2:53 PM

super lazy

louis 07/02/2020 2:53 PM
louis 07/02/2020 2:53 PM

idk why there's cp 5 because you basically never get the dummy into the tele

louis 07/02/2020 2:54 PM

it's not even a part so idk

louis 07/02/2020 2:54 PM

i would change this

Zonsa 07/02/2020 2:58 PM

Added unfreeze at the end Made platform bigger the rest isnt necessary, and/or does its purpos

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Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:01 PM

You dont even play the map and want to know if smth didnt work right or is "lazy" maybe get your *** on the server and play it before talking

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:01 PM

god damn

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:02 PM

I played the whole map and it was fun, nothing lazy or too tight or smth else

louis 07/02/2020 4:15 PM

if i wasnt on the server how did i get those screenshots 🙃

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:16 PM

play the map pls

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:16 PM

then talk

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:16 PM

how you wanna know that you wont fall in tele if you didnt try

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:17 PM

so its "useless"

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:17 PM

do not speak from above as if you were something better

louis 07/02/2020 4:28 PM

i played it xd

louis 07/02/2020 4:29 PM

how tf are u going to say "do not speak from above as if you were something better" while also telling me not to talk? lmfao

louis 07/02/2020 4:29 PM

just cause you have an orange name doesn't mean you're always right

louis 07/02/2020 4:29 PM

you literally cannot get your dummy into that tele

louis 07/02/2020 4:29 PM

unless you try

louis 07/02/2020 4:30 PM

this map is short which is fine, but 60% of this map is gores

louis 07/02/2020 4:30 PM

in that case, the parts should be good

louis 07/02/2020 4:30 PM

this doesn't really look like much thought was put into it

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:33 PM

i have a reason, why i said "do not speak from above as if you were something better" cause you try to correct someone without even really play the map but nvm i guess to discuss with you wont help anybody cause youre right anyways

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:34 PM

you literally cannot get your dummy into that tele

@louis

i did

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:34 PM

so dont talk bs

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:34 PM

this doesn't really look like much thought was put into it

@louis

is still fun

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:37 PM

Please talk about your perspective and say smth like: "I did play it and it wasnt fun, so i would change it." And dont talk "this looks like" when you never tried

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:37 PM

im testing and say my opinion this doesnt mean im right

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:37 PM

but atleast im testing

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:38 PM

not just watching and write smth that come to my mind

louis 07/02/2020 4:50 PM

ok fine lemme fix my words then

louis 07/02/2020 4:50 PM

when i was playing, i saw this part and it looked bad to me when i was dragging my dummy. the ht should be below the grass, or else it looks messy.

louis 07/02/2020 4:51 PM

also, when i was playing the map, this part didn't seem very fun or creative to me.

louis 07/02/2020 4:51 PM
louis 07/02/2020 4:52 PM

since the map only has 4 parts, i think it would be better if there weren't parts that seem low-effort like this. additionally, when i was playing the map, this part felt a little ddmax-y since it is just a hover drag repeated a few times.

louis 07/02/2020 4:52 PM

also, when i was playing the map, this cp 5 didn't really seem like it was adding anything to the map

louis 07/02/2020 4:53 PM

when i was dragging my dummy at cp 5, it felt like the cp wasn't even a cp because you basically never fail there. the tele is only hittable if you forget to jump before dragging the dummy (which nobody will forget to do)

louis 07/02/2020 4:56 PM

i had mixed opinions on this map after i played through it. This is because, while i was playing the map, i noticed there were an abundance of gores dummy dragging parts. while these are totally okay to have, if it takes up the majority of your map it feels more like a gores map than a ddnet map. additionally, i felt like some of the parts were lacking creativity/didn't feel good, especially the last 2 parts.

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:56 PM

Wasnt that hard right?

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:57 PM

I liked this map because it has much gores parts

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:57 PM

I dont remember a map in a simular stlye like this

Qywinc 07/02/2020 4:57 PM

so I think its kinda "new"

louis 07/02/2020 4:57 PM

while playing the last part, i felt it could be made a little better since it is pretty repetitive and felt easier than the previous parts

Qywinc 07/02/2020 5:00 PM

I agree its not an new exotic map but it is still fun to play imo, not every map has to be smth crazy, it is enough that the gameplay is fun

louis 07/02/2020 5:00 PM

yeah it wasn't that hard, i basically just copy pasted all the previous messages i sent and added "while i was playing this part" to them

louis 07/02/2020 5:00 PM

i think if u just fix like 2 drag parts its fine

Qywinc 07/02/2020 5:01 PM
@louis

sometimes it matters how you write something and how it comes across

Zonsa 07/02/2020 7:48 PM

Wuw Guys chill xD

@louis Tele 5 is for the tele wall in the map, it's really important because the dummy would get tped to the last part . It's easy to go into that tele too.

The HT behind the wall looks like shit, I like it more over the wall

Ye I understand that the part looks uncreative, I can change it tomorrow

Qywinc 07/02/2020 7:58 PM

$reset

Qywinc 07/02/2020 8:00 PM

I wouldnt have changed a thing but I guess if you want to change it I have to reset until you are satisfied

Slayzn 07/03/2020 7:40 AM

I playthrough it 10times and I never even get close to fail, less space or even annoying fail

@Qywinc

that is not an argument

Qywinc 07/03/2020 9:31 AM

No its my opinion

Zonsa 07/03/2020 4:32 PM
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Qywinc 08/04/2020 9:46 AM

bug

Qywinc 08/04/2020 9:46 AM

after you fix this i think its ready again

Zonsa 08/05/2020 3:20 PM
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Freezestyler 08/05/2020 5:53 PM

Too much and too hard gores

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/05/2020 5:53 PM

Freezefaller

Freezestyler 08/05/2020 5:54 PM

hello

Zonsa 08/10/2020 6:26 PM

Ready? o.o

louis 08/12/2020 10:12 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:12 PM

remove left spawns

louis 08/12/2020 10:20 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:20 PM

its probably better if u move these teles like 1 block away from the platform or just make the platform 1 more long

louis 08/12/2020 10:20 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:21 PM

2 toteles / remove the freeze above

louis 08/12/2020 10:24 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:24 PM

this freeze poking out felt kinda redundant since u could just fall thru it, idk

louis 08/12/2020 10:26 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:27 PM

id make a 1 tile space for dummy instead of 2 because some ppl might hold hook for a fraction second more and fail

louis 08/12/2020 10:27 PM

w/e its pretty minor

louis 08/12/2020 10:30 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:31 PM

remove freeze on wall plz

louis 08/12/2020 10:32 PM

the only things i think should rly be fixed are screenshot 1 3 and 6

louis 08/12/2020 10:32 PM

otherwise its probably ready

louis 08/12/2020 10:34 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:34 PM

keep a consistent style maybe

louis 08/12/2020 10:34 PM
louis 08/12/2020 10:34 PM

btw failing the one tiler on the right side puts u back at the beginning which is kinda annoying

Zonsa 08/13/2020 1:53 PM

Everything fixed

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Qywinc 08/13/2020 4:27 PM

$ready 3

louis 08/13/2020 5:14 PM

4*?

Freezestyler 08/13/2020 5:23 PM

since when do we release maps that consist of 80 % gores? Not to mention that these gores parts are way too unbalanced in comparison to the ddrace parts, especially for ddrace players

Qywinc 08/13/2020 5:24 PM

its a nice map for getting kog players to ddnet imo

Freezestyler 08/13/2020 5:26 PM

The gores parts aren‘t even good enough for that (straight tunnels only)

Freezestyler 08/13/2020 5:26 PM

and that is not a valid reason to release an unbalanced map

Lady Saavik 08/13/2020 5:56 PM

ppl love dragging dummies through gores

Lady Saavik 08/13/2020 5:58 PM

I liked the map

Lady Saavik 08/13/2020 5:59 PM

btw I tried to cheat last part idk if it's impossible or I'm just too bad

Qywinc 08/13/2020 6:10 PM

I dont think map is unbalanced

Welf 08/13/2020 6:16 PM

imo the combination of drag parts and failparts has always been unbalanced, but on the dummy server that combination makes more sense (because nobody has to wait)

i think the map is interesting. i also think that not many people will finish/play it, because of the gatekeeping gores parts. unless we are closing the insane server, "not many people will play this" is not an argument.

Freezestyler 08/13/2020 7:37 PM

ppl love dragging dummies through gores

@Lady Saavik

that's made up but for sure gores players do which is why the map fits way better on kog dummy server where it probably gets rejected because of uncreativity

Freezestyler 08/13/2020 7:38 PM

but feel free to release yet another bad map, we are getting used to it

Lady Saavik 08/13/2020 7:44 PM
@Freezestyler

we can't make everyone happy, there will be always ppl that like and dislike every map

Knuski 08/14/2020 1:03 AM

would be good if this would be hookable, better and faster for speedrun

Knuski 08/14/2020 1:05 AM

should remove this layer of hookable and put freeze there cause its annoying when ur dummy is on there while wanting to do the 1 tile

Knuski 08/14/2020 1:07 AM

you can just go under it

Knuski 08/14/2020 1:08 AM

nice map

Knuski 08/14/2020 1:11 AM

you can easily throw from there, and completely avoid ht

Pepe 08/14/2020 2:14 AM

that last throw is a bit risky tho , there is no much space to hook. If someone tries out, it has a lot of possibilities to fail

Knuski 08/14/2020 2:20 AM

But it's directly at the start and not hard imo

Pepe 08/14/2020 2:21 AM

You too pro m8

Pepe 08/14/2020 2:21 AM

and i didnt know it was at the start, sry

Knuski 08/14/2020 2:21 AM

No problem and I guess It can stay like that

Knuski 08/14/2020 2:21 AM

Mappers choice I think, cause its not a big skip at all

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 5:31 AM

yes some cuts for pros are fine

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 5:32 AM

$reset

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 5:32 AM

so they are not bored

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 10:53 AM

make the ceiling 1 tile higher so you can jump here

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 10:54 AM

isn't it too hard?

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 10:56 AM
Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 10:56 AM

^ (make a platform if you give both tees CP5)

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 10:58 AM

looks hard to me

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:02 AM

hard drag, would remove freeze on the bottom so you can have more tries (you can leave freeze on the wall if you want to be mean)

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:08 AM
Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:15 AM

or will more ppl do it other way?

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:34 AM

you can do it solo but that's fine

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:35 AM

I'm afraid cheat is hard, but possible here

Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:40 AM
@Zonsa
Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:48 AM
Lady Saavik 08/14/2020 11:50 AM
Zonsa 08/14/2020 12:51 PM

Fixed 🙂

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Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 11:46 AM

um... people have very different opinions about this map

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 11:46 AM

should we release the map?

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 11:47 AM

I liked the map but people don't like the gores thing

Brokecdx- 08/23/2020 11:50 AM

Each part is not very well thought through, gores drag after cp3 is bad if you dont have dj. TP 8 part is so ddmax like, felt like you went out of ideas and just tried new tiles. Also this kind of map shouldnt use CP teles. CP4 is somewhat good Design: lazy automap with huge clouds. There are many mappers out there that put more effort into maps, and i think you can do better than this

@Zonsa

. Ah and dont get me wrong, gores drag is not the problem.

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 11:51 AM

design is fine, we don't need super duper art

Cøke 08/23/2020 12:15 PM

I don't like Gores too but I think we can give it a try 😁

Qywinc 08/23/2020 12:57 PM

Its 6 6 xD (Laddy Saavik voted f3 i think so her f4 doesnt count)

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:11 PM

yea

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:11 PM

looks liek it's 50:50

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:11 PM

= better release it because some ppl would be happy about it

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:12 PM

will still wait for more votes to be sure

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:19 PM

It seems like the guys who did f4 are all ddrace player which dont play much gores. I think ppl who play more gores would be happy about this map.

Welf 08/23/2020 1:20 PM

actually brokecdx is a very good player who gave detailled feedback about the map. freezestyler is a gores player, too (at least i saw him on gores).

Genex 08/23/2020 1:22 PM
@Freezestyler

the Gores god

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:22 PM

We have literally a dummy map that is made of gores drag

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:22 PM

Anime

sen pa' 〄𖤐 08/23/2020 1:23 PM

We need more

WSike 08/23/2020 1:24 PM

f3

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:24 PM

i say f3 map f4 gores

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:25 PM

unbalanced

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:25 PM

I agree the map is a bit unbalanced but imo decend enough to get released

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:25 PM

if you think the gores part of the map is too hard for ddrace players for example we can ask mapper to nerf it

Welf 08/23/2020 1:26 PM

instead of deciding about a release in this state, we might want wo wait what the mapper thinks. maybe the mapper wants to further work on the map after seeing this.

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:26 PM

"unbalanced" can't be reason to decline the map because we can fix it!!!

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:26 PM

I dont say decline

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:26 PM

I say unbalanced cuz of hard gores

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:27 PM

and I don't say you did

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:27 PM

I cant really say its unbalanced because for me the gores drag is ez af

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:27 PM

didn't even see you saying it when I was writing xd

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:27 PM

gores is luck

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:28 PM

there are 2(?) 1-tile tight places, maybe they shouldn't be there at all

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:28 PM

this map is totally unbalanced for ddrace players

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:28 PM

at a loss of understanding how you cant see that

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:28 PM

ok make it everywhere harder so its balanced again?

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:28 PM

idk, I like easy gores

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:29 PM

and ppl like to drag afks through the parts

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:29 PM

ye keep making up more random stuff without any proof

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:29 PM

Its the truth

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:29 PM

no its not

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:30 PM

There are many ppl like dragging afk ppl

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:30 PM

Its a fact

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:30 PM

it always happens to me that I wake up 86390 parts later

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:30 PM

Its the same thing as you would say there is nobody ever afk in stronghold

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:30 PM

on gores it even happened that they told me to be afk again so they can drag me xd

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:31 PM

it's like "people still love making towers" xd it's true

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:31 PM
@Freezestyler

you dont often play kog right?

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:32 PM

Im literally playing right now

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:32 PM

that wasnt the question

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:32 PM

and how does that even mattr

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:32 PM

If you were playing kog more often you would see how they play, what they like etc.

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:33 PM

there is a reason some tw player just play kog and other ones just ddrace

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:33 PM

imo it would be nice to combine both

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:33 PM

some people drag new players through whole maps instead of letting them learn :(

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:33 PM

to get more only kog players to ddrace

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:34 PM

gores is a part of ddrace

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:34 PM

you have to climb everywhere

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:34 PM
Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:34 PM

you try to release this on ddnet and not kog wtf

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:34 PM

and often drag deep tee

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:35 PM

whats wrong with the testers nowadays

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:35 PM

Zonsa just put a lot of gores in this map xd

Welf 08/23/2020 1:35 PM

maybe we should wait for the response of the mapper before we waste too much time at arguing 😅

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:35 PM

gores sucks

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:35 PM
@Freezestyler

because kog maps should be doable solo or am I wrong?

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:35 PM
@Freezestyler

ur e girl agrees with u

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:36 PM
@Lady Saavik

its not like the drag parts in this map would be anything special

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:36 PM

There are dummy maps on KoG too

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:36 PM

though the gores parts arent either

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:36 PM

I really wonder what you see in this map

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:36 PM

yea because it's an easy map

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:36 PM
@ᶰ°Konͧsti

no idea who that is

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:36 PM

The vote is 9 yes 6 no now, fast release!

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:37 PM

when I was on a full test server there were literally no people liking the map

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:37 PM

Its just that people liking maps are more likely to share their opinion here

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:37 PM
@Freezestyler

gores isnt smth special in your eyes but a lot of ppl like playing it. Kog is always kinda the same...

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:37 PM
@Freezestyler

I saw many ppl disliking this map too but somehow it was ready

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:38 PM

only a DDRace player would say gores is always the same

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:39 PM
@Freezestyler

and what's your opinion on #deleted-channel ? I can totally say it's nothing special there

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:39 PM

see ezy took a flipplipp map and turned it 180°

It was going to be released until flipplipp checked it

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08/23/2020 1:39 PM
Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:39 PM

but would you release it?

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

wtf

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

WE ARE ON DDNET; IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT KOG PLAYERS LIKE

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

?????????????

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

calm down

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

it does

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

we are not divided lol

Qywinc 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

all are Teeworld players

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:40 PM
@Lady Saavik

i didnt look at #deleted-channel

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:40 PM

I know but can you take a look

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:41 PM

ofc we are divided

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:41 PM

I am playing rn

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:41 PM

you are chatting xd

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:41 PM

but later, sure

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:41 PM

yea because you keep pinging me

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:42 PM

why does it hurt you so much that we want to be once nice to a group of ppl xd

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:42 PM

we already have a few pure gores maps tbh

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:42 PM

and how can you tell a map has too much gores?

tux 08/23/2020 1:45 PM

Some gores in ddrace is not the problem. read Brokecdx's feedback, this map is just low effort overall

Freezestyler 08/23/2020 1:47 PM
@Lady Saavik

nvm I actually saw #deleted-channel its bad imo but why does that matter here

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:47 PM

I just asked

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:47 PM

I didn't say it matters here

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 1:48 PM

I repeat it so often

Welf 08/23/2020 2:10 PM

if it doesn't matter here, maybe don't ask on this channel to avoid spam?

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 2:14 PM

it would matter if he liked the map

Welf 08/23/2020 2:18 PM

I don't think that his view on another hard to compare map would matter but w/e. For me it looked like offtopic. And it would be better structured and less confusing if you asked him in that channel i guess.

Welf 08/23/2020 2:18 PM

In my opinion the issue about this map on kog would be, that it would be unbalanced for kog players. So they might decline it for the same reason as we would decline it (if we choose this reason).

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 2:22 PM

I don't think that his view on another hard to compare map would matter but w/e. For me it looked like offtopic. And it would be better structured and less confusing if you asked him in that channel i guess.

@Welf

I........... don't care what you think...........................

Welf 08/23/2020 2:25 PM

Feel free to explain why you think that if freezestyler liked that other map, that would help us in this case.

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 2:25 PM

it was end of topic

Lady Saavik 08/23/2020 2:26 PM

why do you off topic now

Welf 08/23/2020 2:26 PM

okay we might use dms for that

tux 08/23/2020 2:32 PM

It was declined on kog before

@Welf
Welf 08/23/2020 2:33 PM

Oh thank you for that information, now this makes more sense to me.

Zonsa 08/23/2020 2:45 PM

Hey 🙂 sure i can change some stuff if its unbalanced! If the majority thinks this has nothing to do with ddrace you can for sure decline it. This Map was meant for combining ddnet and kog .... obviously ddnet and kog arent seperated, we all play Teeworlds, and if someone doesnt like gores he shouldnt play this map imo. But more people would like seeing a hybrid of gores and ddrace

Welf 09/04/2020 11:11 AM
@Zonsa

are you going to work on this map? i can put this on waiting if you need more time

Zonsa 09/04/2020 12:19 PM

nobody said stuff to fix

Zonsa 09/04/2020 12:19 PM

so idk

Welf 09/04/2020 12:33 PM

From what i saw Freezestyler and Brokecdx gave some feedback, but they didn't post screens. I thought you somewhat understood their criticism and could work on the map.

Zonsa 09/04/2020 1:26 PM

just decline it, i actually didnt want it to be in testing for 4 months

Welf 09/04/2020 1:28 PM

oof, yeah sorry for that :x

Welf 09/04/2020 1:28 PM

$decline

Cøke 09/04/2020 1:40 PM
Lady Saavik 09/04/2020 8:01 PM

next wasted time .-.