#Neovoid
"Neovoid" by kkzemo [Solo]
DDNet 09/11/2025 4:39 PM

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@piska_siska_popka
DDNet 09/11/2025 4:39 PM
manikoo 09/11/2025 4:42 PM

map is small and parts are basic

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:42 PM

you know you need more special gameplay to achieve release of your map now

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:43 PM

how sad it would not be

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:43 PM

i don't like it neither

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 4:43 PM

what is the most important thing for a good map?

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:44 PM

there is no 'the most important'

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:44 PM

everything needed

manikoo 09/11/2025 4:44 PM

playable design and interesting gameplay

vena6080 09/11/2025 4:44 PM

it's a good start, but you need to develop more the part for them to be more interesting. some part are repetitive

vena6080 09/11/2025 4:45 PM

like the way to get the grenade

vena6080 09/11/2025 4:45 PM

or the jetpack

vena6080 09/11/2025 4:45 PM

the way you give and take back the weapon are not great, it's better to get all grenade or laser part together and not use shield

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 4:47 PM

okay thx,this is my 2nd map, I will try to do better in the future

vena6080 09/11/2025 4:49 PM

for example, give more space and change between many possible laser, not always the same

DDNet 09/11/2025 4:50 PM

Mention:

@piska_siska_popka
pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:50 PM

Weird stuff in the walls

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:50 PM

Don't forgot to remove unused images

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:51 PM

It's already pretty great for a 2nd map

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:51 PM

Still many beginner's mistakes

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:52 PM

It's better than most designs I saw lately

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 4:52 PM

Its very nice to hear that, thank you

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:53 PM

The game group should only contain game layers

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:53 PM

(game tele and front here)

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 4:53 PM

okay

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:54 PM

You don't need multiple quad layers for the same image, you could just have 1 quad layer for all the lights

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 4:55 PM

I realized it only too late

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:56 PM

Empty group

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 4:58 PM

It would be simpler like that

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 5:00 PM

The lamppost should be bigger

DDNet 09/11/2025 5:01 PM

Map size breakdown :mag:

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 5:01 PM

I didn't think of it

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 5:02 PM

Ok, a big part of the map size is unused images

pipou_tw 09/11/2025 5:02 PM

Alright, good luck with your next project, it's a good start!

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 5:02 PM

xd,I'm a fool

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:03 PM
@piska_siska_popka

the paradox for me is that you should to play a lot of maps to be able to make interesting parts(have experience) but if you lack imagination you would just copy them from other maps i think you really need to play this game more (totally random maps)

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 5:03 PM

Thank you, it's very nice to hear that from you

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 5:04 PM

During my studies, I started watching game recordings and gameplay, trying to remember it)

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:05 PM

my imagination is shit asf so i'm not able to make even one part without suffer during few hours

piska_siska_popka 09/11/2025 5:05 PM

It's the same for me,xd

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:17 PM

its normal to spend a few hours to make a good part

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:17 PM

if ur happy with the outcome then ur doing it right

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:18 PM

but if u sink time and feel like u have nothing then its just lack of direction

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:18 PM

in which case it s rly helpful to establish some kind of theme for the map

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:18 PM

didn't tried to make real great part but my brain lacks ideas

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:19 PM

i know only parts i have played

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:19 PM

it would be bad to make own even bit same

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:20 PM

nonsense

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:20 PM

if u have a real interest in mapping just try to establish some kind of theme

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:22 PM

theme could be map with only 2x2 tiles, map with no corners, map with unfreeze parts, map with no hammer etc.

yaccre 09/11/2025 5:23 PM

doesn't have to be vanilla also, there are plenty of unexplored ideas with special tiles, as long as you stick to one tile testers are fine with it

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:23 PM

you know kosnti's maps yeah

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:25 PM

his ones are basic as tiles setup but massive as difference and amount of parts

manikoo 09/11/2025 5:26 PM

i know i need 888 redbull drinks but

blaiszephyr 09/11/2025 5:26 PM

i found my favourite maps by playing a lot, at some point you're able to decide what YOU like and what YOU dont like same applies for mapping pretty much, you just try, test, evaulate, and if you dont like it - try again!

blaiszephyr 09/11/2025 5:27 PM

so basically what jao just said xd