09:00 <+bridge> <teero777> can someone tell me quickly where the community icons are coming from again? where does the client get the
09:00 <+bridge> <teero777> can someone tell me quickly where the community icons are coming from again? where does the client get them
09:16 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> https://info.ddnet.org/info has `communities[n].icon.url`
09:21 <+bridge> <teero777> thxx
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> hm how should i designe the authorized_keys file for ddnet rcon ssh?
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> i am wondering where to put the role
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> in regular ssh you have the "role" so the unix user in the file location
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> /home/chiller/.ssh/authorized_keys gives access to chiller
10:06 <+ChillerDragon> so for ddnet that would be ~/.teeworlds/ssh/moderator/authorized_keys for moderator
10:06 <+ChillerDragon> but i think multiple files is annoying
10:07 <+ChillerDragon> could also change the authorized_keys format to contain lines like `moderator ssh-rsa AAAxzauiaio...`
10:08 <+ChillerDragon> or should ssh access to the console be admin only i guess that probably makes the most sense
10:08 <+ChillerDragon> moderators also cant use econ
10:22 <+ChillerDragon> i wonder why the econ password is different than sv_rcon_password
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> So i might not be able to code, but I sure know what I would do if I could change the current skin template.
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> I doubt this entire thing would become the new standard, but it gives nice dimensions for what *could* happen if we added onto tees, and used these ideas in separate templates.
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> Also yes the new emotion placement is purely just an idea but I would imagine it'd replace the :tear::zzzz::mmm: expression (which is simply squashing the face assets)
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> The theme of the emotion would be eyes closed, neutral expression
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> 
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> i also added some concept sketches for how these would be implemented, and just a tiny idea for if everyone agrees to add this emotion idea
10:41 <+bridge> <Deleted User> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/927982615624052736/unknown.png?ex=6a4b4268&is=6a49f0e8&hm=376391acfa4559ed8abbe926ef1cb631284a695b2bcbca6a6745d6eb363eb208&
10:42 <+bridge> <Deleted User> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/927982615942803536/unknown.png?ex=6a4b4268&is=6a49f0e8&hm=6fb35f40f6058488fb16a5c652cc402b8493e1c9ab225b790623ba00ee0cfd0f&
10:58 <+bridge> <jxsl13> from a technical point of view it makes a lot of sense, especially when econ is used for a technical account and rcon for an interactive user account.
11:05 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Why is Econ technical tho
11:06 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Could also be a remote admin without Teeworlds client
11:41 <+ChillerDragon> holy shiet i just opened a github issue and a user that joined gh 8 hours ago replied within minutes with a FixCrash.exe xd
12:05 <+bridge> <zavzagali> latest versionn
12:05 <+bridge> <zavzagali> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523268671881871380/Screencast_From_2026-07-05_13-03-32.mp4?ex=6a4b7e00&is=6a4a2c80&hm=d6ffbc48f6c17a32b3cd0f5f3ba012492adf7f4ce145c8ae788d66b428dcc41d&
12:07 <+bridge> <teero777> link
12:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @teero777: https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol/issues/1503#issuecomment-4885563325
12:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> The exe is legit according to Virus total and distributed by ms
12:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> But the DLL gets flagged
12:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I already reported the user to GitHub
12:28 <+bridge> <teero777> what were you doing with mc??
12:28 <+bridge> <teero777> what were you doing with mc?
12:29 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I need an idle proxy -.-
12:29 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I have been stalling to work on it forever. Someone else built one but it’s outdated now. I really don’t wanna build one but I need it for gaming
12:31 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> It was so easy to build for Teeworlds I wonder how it even worked. All it took was to drop the disconnect packet. No idea how sequence numbering wasn’t wrong
12:33 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I guess the resend connection messages reset the sequence numbers but the server did not reset the character in the world
12:34 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Probably useful for spoofing attacks now that I think about it :D
12:38 <+bridge> <pilonpl> How are tiles rendered?
12:38 <+bridge> <pilonpl> Is every tile a quad?
12:54 <+bridge> <Assa> no, on vulkan they are rendered with a shader and vertices
12:54 <+bridge> <Assa> and pushed into a buffer on the gpu
12:59 <+bridge> <Assa> AMA if you have question about this - I think I almost understand everything now in our rendering
12:59 <+bridge> <melon> what in the jupstar replacement!
12:59 <+bridge> <melon> :shook:
12:59 <+bridge> <teero777> @essigautomat funny thing in frametee the bottleneck when rendering 10k players and particles and all of that is still imgui
13:00 <+bridge> <Assa> not really tbh, jupey has more knowledge in the direct backend
13:00 <+bridge> <melon> makes sense ig, juppey wrote the vulkan rendering after all
13:01 <+bridge> <Assa> xD what do you need imgui for?
13:02 <+bridge> <Assa> ui elements okay
13:02 <+bridge> <Assa> how can this be the bottleneck oO
13:03 <+bridge> <Assa> bro stop rounding corners
13:53 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> solly editor crashout
13:56 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> There is „good first issue“ label. What about adding the counter part „good last issue“
13:56 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> With a description of „if you start working on this issue it will end you“
13:57 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> We can assign it to the accounts issue
13:57 <+bridge> <Assa> I like it, I know already a few I'd give this
13:57 <+bridge> <teero777> bro rendering imgui is like 0.8ms
13:57 <+bridge> <Assa> teleport prediction
13:57 <+bridge> <teero777> idk what to do
13:58 <+bridge> <Assa> Is there something like init stack and clear called every frame?
13:58 <+bridge> <teero777> no
13:58 <+bridge> <teero777> its just imgui overhead afaik
13:59 <+bridge> <teero777> retained mode ui would probably run a lot faster
14:07 <+bridge> <beygroundthebox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523299280465563800/image.jpg?ex=6a4b9a81&is=6a4a4901&hm=5d7ee2593d8362de08326f07a4669579a36c4fed30bb3d7e75831299ce923009&
14:07 <+bridge> <beygroundthebox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523299280939647037/image.jpg?ex=6a4b9a82&is=6a4a4902&hm=6d17f94609cdeffbf1e6d15b78a06f398aa25f67d7dba7c66997ae01973df74e&
14:07 <+bridge> <beygroundthebox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523299281644294154/image.jpg?ex=6a4b9a82&is=6a4a4902&hm=8e6d6a3d4a4c2cc09585eaff395e930046f71719d497656d9935f4f4536a72ad&
14:07 <+bridge> <beygroundthebox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523299282202132560/image.jpg?ex=6a4b9a82&is=6a4a4902&hm=794850b5eac5835787a091082c684191adbace2900764cc53e62bb92e0746f36&
14:15 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> > solly editor crashout
14:15 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> chillerdragon: i can post editor issues daily
14:32 <+bridge> <zavzagali> ..
14:37 <+bridge> <melon> ChillerDragon:
14:37 <+bridge> <melon> > Can we keep the bans server flexible enough to be a generic master server that can also be used for redirects on map change? #5637, #6754
14:37 <+bridge> <melon> 
14:37 <+bridge> <melon> I think thats out of scope for #8410 and should be focused on later if wanted
14:37 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5637
14:37 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6754
14:37 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8410
14:38 <+bridge> <melon> i.e do we want the bans-server protocol to be a general server registry or keep it single-purpose and build a seperate channel for redirects later
14:50 <+bridge> <teero777> @essigautomat without obs im at around 800-1000 fps. but turning off all the rendering not related to imgui gives me maybe 20fps more. its not a visible change
14:50 <+bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523310203528024164/2026-07-05_14-49-07.mp4?ex=6a4ba4ae&is=6a4a532e&hm=66617b17335723251032efe6933823b59ca51c0e3280203e829919af982a8b27&
15:02 <+bridge> <Assa> I guess you could also try raylib idk if you'd gain anything
15:17 <+ChillerDragon> is raylib known to be fast?
15:35 <+bridge> <Assa> raylib uses opengl under the hood so .. 🤷‍♂️
15:36 <+bridge> <teero777> 💀
15:36 <+bridge> <teero777> do you know much code the UI is
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> ```
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> ~/software/frametee $ cloc src
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777>       65 text files.
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777>       65 unique files.                              
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777>        0 files ignored.
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> 
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> github.com/AlDanial/cloc v 2.08  T=0.07 s (984.1 files/s, 277236.3 lines/s)
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> Language                     files          blank        comment           code
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> C                               30           2374            762          13195
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> C/C++ Header                    35            317            119           1545
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> SUM:                            65           2691            881          14740
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> ```
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> like at least 6k loc is imgui ui code
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> and its the CImGui C bindings, so llms struggle with it
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> no way im translating that to anything else
15:39 <+bridge> <teero777> i'd rather fork and patch imgui itself
15:42 <+bridge> <Assa> Oo ideally you'd just need to swap the draw calls
15:51 <+bridge> <teero777> imgui vulkan example xd
15:51 <+bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523325443279945808/image.png?ex=6a4bb2df&is=6a4a615f&hm=5fddf1420ec19550ed3e15c6a7e9e18b5c9e1a7adc810a7f306a7dc7391a4c6d&
15:51 <+bridge> <teero777> 800fps
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> about 3-4k when i close that window
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1523325586884530176/image.png?ex=6a4bb301&is=6a4a6181&hm=0502805d1e48caf48acf95626455a49c389b6dbcecbc7e2ba3965638306d2138&
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> still really damn slow
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> and really unstable too idk why
15:53 <+bridge> <teero777> i was thinking of switching to RmlUI but its probably even slower
16:32 <+bridge> <patiga> ( @blaiszephyr ) pretty sure every on-screen tile is a quad. quad, not as in quadslayer, but quad, as in polygon with 4 corners/vertices
16:33 <+bridge> <pilonpl> i guess the issue is that i understand nothing about rendering
16:42 <+bridge> <patiga> *oop wrong ping, meant to ping @essigautomat
16:42 <+bridge> <murpi> @blaiszephyr get pinged
16:43 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @blaiszephyr:
16:45 <+bridge> <melon> :pepecry:
16:45 <+bridge> <jxsl13> @blaiszephyr
16:46 <+bridge> <melon> 😢
17:31 <+bridge> <louis> @blaiszephyr help
17:32 <+bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223929773210865717/1378597249520631848/hands.gif
17:45 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> @blaiszephyr
18:09 <+bridge> <matatass> lemon
18:51 <+bridge> <Assa> you pinged me and now?
18:53 <+bridge> <Assa> this is ofc true, but I consider them different for using different shaders - in the end everything is triangles or pixels
19:05 <+bridge> <Gwendal> @blaiszephyr
19:14 <+bridge> <pilonpl> how to efficiently move cursor 1 character to the right when coding
19:14 <+bridge> <pilonpl> for example when finishing passing the last argument to a function
19:15 <+bridge> <pilonpl> like
19:15 <+bridge> <pilonpl> using arrows is simple
19:15 <+bridge> <pilonpl> but pro keyboard users probably have a better way
19:16 <+bridge> <pilonpl> probably just esc l
19:16 <+bridge> <pilonpl> i
19:17 <+bridge> <pilonpl> i am so bad at using motions
19:41 <+bridge> <patiga> typically your editor should just let you type your ) and not have it be a duplicate from an automatically inserted closing bracket (in case you meant that)
19:42 <+bridge> <patiga> I also recommend binding caps to be another esc
19:42 <+bridge> <pilonpl> i swapped esc and caps
19:42 <+bridge> <pilonpl> system wide
19:42 <+bridge> <pilonpl> also i installed zed
19:43 <+bridge> <pilonpl> and also i am using helix mode
19:43 <+bridge> <patiga> I also use zed a lot with the vim mode (since I lost my last neovim config)
19:43 <+bridge> <pilonpl> and not vim
19:44 <+bridge> <pilonpl> helix is better
19:44 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Do you not track your config in git?
19:45 <+bridge> <pilonpl> it's a good idea
19:46 <+bridge> <pilonpl> but it's a bit complicated
19:46 <+bridge> <pilonpl> when managing configs for a whole system
19:46 <+bridge> <melon> I became unc who uses vscode
19:46 <+bridge> <melon> I figured it's not worth the pain
19:47 <+bridge> <pilonpl> i guess it's best to use something like chezmoi
19:47 <+bridge> <melon> And I like their ssh integration since I now do a lot of stuff remotely :justatest:
19:47 <+bridge> <pilonpl> zed is way faster
19:48 <+bridge> <melon> As a zed contributor I agree. But it still doesn't work properly™ yet
20:01 <+bridge> <louis> ye the vscode ssh filenrowser so nice
20:09 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> @fokkonaut how does tile with index 70 work on your tunelock implementation
20:09 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> does it just always clear all tunes?
20:11 <+bridge> <learath2> Real uncs use vim/nvim or emacs
20:18 <+bridge> <aegisub> ☝️
20:18 <+bridge> <louis> in my experience the real uncs use emacs and larpers use nvim or vim
20:19 <+bridge> <cellegenrih> May I ask, is nobody working on the map editor in terms of features?
20:19 <+bridge> <louis> not that i know of
20:19 <+bridge> <louis> robyte is doing some stuff
20:19 <+bridge> <cellegenrih> Cuz if so, I would like to add helper functions to the map editor to at least ease up creating stuff on it, like a simple function to automatically create a button where it's suppose to....
20:20 <+bridge> <cellegenrih> For me, I had to go to at least 5 different scripts just to get a simple property button working
20:23 <+bridge> <aegisub> this is true
20:24 <+bridge> <cellegenrih> I'm a fellow VSCodium enjoyer
20:41 <+bridge> <robyt3> #11776
20:41 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/11776
21:20 <+bridge> <melon> smol fix type of diff
21:27 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> yes
21:27 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> you can clear tune locks by placing another tunelock tile and setting specific tunings to the original value tho
21:28 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> that allows for granular resets
21:28 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> yeah i tried gravity 0.5 and gravity -0.5 and it seems to work fine
21:28 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> why was pr with your implementation closed
21:28 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> i kinda like yours more because things like shotgun work
21:30 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> I dont know, @balami. just asked me about it too and whether it just requires a map to be accepted.
21:30 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> I could work on it again if it's promising and update it to F-DDrace's state
21:30 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> but i think it might overlap with the current TuneZoneOverride which I dont really find that useful
21:32 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> I talked to @corneum before implementing it to see what his vision would be as he is a very creative mapper. So we decided it's best to make them stackable and work in tunezones.
21:32 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> 
21:32 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> I think @heinrich5991 didn't like `tune_lock_enter` because those messages can't be translated.
21:37 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> This tune lock implementation also allows different projectile tunings per player with backwards compatibility.
21:37 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> Just prediction in general would have to be added for each player to hold individual tunings lists
21:40 <+bridge> <Welf> I also think stackable tune zones would be nice, because they allow more flexibility.
21:41 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> > I think @heinrich5991 didn't like tune_lock_enter because those messages can't be translated.
21:41 <+bridge> <fokkonaut> I think this was one of the main issues with the PR: How to communicate changes to the client without untranslated messages (like `tune_zone_enter` already has...)
21:47 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> yeah making them work in tune zones and being stackable is kinda nice
21:47 <+bridge> <soulyvevo> i like that its really flexible
23:38 <+bridge> <triki> it is gfx or cl
23:38 <+bridge> <triki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154149513905315962/image.png?ex=6a4c0d7f&is=6a4abbff&hm=7c4f8dbae9587665f43e47bdc8c4e3f877104cb3f38ee064c2381796b64819c9&