00:14 <+bridge> <Assa> just joined a 0.7 server and my game crashed 🙂
00:29 <+bridge> <Assa> @chillerdragon I join your DM server and everything is lagging and almost crashing
00:29 <+bridge> <Assa> ChillerDragon's CTF GER3 [formerly JSaurusRex]
00:29 <+bridge> <Assa> Address: ddnet://[2a03:4000:4a:ed4:58f9:e3ff:fe45:3aa5]:8709
00:29 <+bridge> <Assa> My IGN: Assa
07:05 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @essigautomat: thanks for reporting but I assume that’s an issue in your bot client :p
07:05 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Can you consistently reproduce?
08:14 <+ChillerDragon> oh indeed i can reproduce with chillerbot-zx it does hang for a second on join client sided
08:16 <+ChillerDragon> happens on join for me the trace i get is this when killing the client while its hung https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/24
08:19 <+ChillerDragon> hm turning off tournament mode fixes it but i can not reproduce it on a local server yet
08:25 <+ChillerDragon> something something libtw2
08:25 <+ChillerDragon> `/home/chiller/Desktop/git/ddnet/vendor/libtw2-snapshot/src/snap.rs(697): item sizes can't be mismatched for self-created snapshots: DeltaDifferingSizes`
08:39 <+ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 how do i patch that code? my edits in vendor/ seem to have no effect
09:15 <+ChillerDragon> this comment is onto something 
09:15 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/780b4c68a7f031b526538388822dd3458bba0a53/vendor/libtw2-snapshot/src/snap.rs#L696-L698
09:16 <+ChillerDragon> item sizes cant be different for self created snapshots but for snapshots we receive
09:16 <+ChillerDragon> what about snapshots we receive and recreate :brain:
09:16 <+ChillerDragon> ye idk i rq rust doesnt wanna let me add debug prints so i cant really progress here
09:20 <+bridge> <Assa> why do you think I use a bot client? 🤔
09:26 <+ChillerDragon> xd
09:26 <+ChillerDragon> its old joke i always call ppl botter if their client crashes
09:26 <+ChillerDragon> based on the idea that ddnet is quite stable and some bot clients are not
10:34 <+bridge> <vappy19> helo guys developersss good morning, there is a setting or way to put Friends + per ping selected at same time?
10:34 <+bridge> <vappy19> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518172194713370665/image.png?ex=6a38f389&is=6a37a209&hm=e1df39abfa10b1aae269b03d6b275af897798427fe4b3837f9015d3b34d3277c&
10:35 <+bridge> <Assa> funny usecase - I want to play with friends, but only only with the ones on the best server
10:37 <+bridge> <vappy19> i mean no, but after friend list order from less ping
10:37 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Imagine having friends in other ping zones
10:37 <+bridge> <vappy19> C H I L L E R !! . I like play in every part :(
10:37 <+bridge> <Assa> > Imagine having friends
10:37 <+bridge> <Assa> :feelsbadman:
10:37 <+bridge> <vappy19> C H I L L E R !! . I like play in every zone :(
10:38 <+bridge> <vappy19> please add 🙏
11:04 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> there's https://github.com/mozilla/uniffi-rs (I've used this for libtw2) or https://github.com/rust-diplomat/diplomat for exposing your rust library to other languages, but maybe not C
11:04 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> not sure if this answers your question
11:04 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> I'll check it, thanks
11:20 <+bridge> <jxsl13> you just lack the imagination, not the friends.
11:21 <+bridge> <Assa> "I'm so happy, 'cause today I found my friends - they're in my head ..."
11:22 <+bridge> <jxsl13> this is downwards spiral.
11:23 <+bridge> <jxsl13> I tried to uplift you, but I failed miserably.
11:23 <+bridge> <jxsl13> this is a downwards spiral.
13:10 <+ChillerDragon> @davide55 @avolicious kog just went offline? watfak
13:10 <+ChillerDragon> like all of it
13:10 <+ChillerDragon> ah it back never mind
13:11 <+ChillerDragon> guess it was a server crash paired with routing issue idk
13:11 <+ChillerDragon> the connection problems where longer than usual and checking the master server i only found like 8 online kog servers
13:12 <+ChillerDragon> now the server i was playing on changed to Q-Easy2 so that one apparently crashed
13:12 <+ChillerDragon> false alarm i thought there was a bigger issue this time
13:19 <+bridge> <davide55> @chillerdragon I had to swap the prefixes on another router, that's why you saw a blip
13:19 <+bridge> <davide55> But that's like 30m ago
13:19 <+bridge> <davide55> So maybe the server crashed if you see Q-Easy2
13:22 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes my server for sure crashed. I just assumed during connection problems it was the routing issue. And when it took a bit long I checked the browser and saw all of the kog servers being gone which I never noticed before so I got scared haha
13:54 <+bridge> <davide55> Anyway, swapped to a new router
13:54 <+bridge> <davide55> So everything should be good now
13:55 <+bridge> <davide55> 🤞
14:02 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/408668644147462145/1155448059065540629/attachment.gif
15:01 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> guysss
15:02 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> smoother
15:02 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518239600043233300/Screencast_From_2026-06-21_16-00-56.mp4?ex=6a393250&is=6a37e0d0&hm=1d0efbc93d9129e01ca95eed2ef4a0ce44cf702c7d50a878c3b99dc91c72fb7d&
15:02 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> rate latest version
15:03 <+bridge> <melon> trippy
15:06 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> thats my goal
15:07 <+bridge> <teero777> are u fr drawing thousands of rectangles?
15:08 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> just 218 line
15:13 <+bridge> <art0007i> you could do it with 1 rectangle per entire screen and a pixel shader
15:22 <+bridge> <melon> i think writing fragment shaders is a little on the harder side for beginners :D
15:22 <+bridge> <teero777> especially integrating them into ddnet ddnet xd
15:22 <+bridge> <melon> well, depends - but yes it would be the better approach
16:06 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> looks like uniffi is used for generating bindings for higher level languages, not C, but diplomat looks like the tool I needed
16:25 <+bridge> <teero777> especially integrating them into ddnet xd
17:39 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> yes. I didn't know that diplomat could do C
17:39 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> what do you need C bindings for? when I reached for C bindings in the past, it was usually to bind it to other higher-level languages
17:40 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> and that's what uniffi and diplomat give me, without hte step in-between
17:40 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> I'm making a library in rust that's going to be used in other languages, but for now it's only C
17:41 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> I'd suggest skipping C — unless there's a reason to target C
17:41 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> C is not a language that you'd usually write users of your libraries in
17:41 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> I have another project, in C, that's going to use the library
17:42 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> that's a good reason to target C ^^
17:43 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> I tried diplomat, but something felt off :\. I'm just going to rawdawg it, my "library" is only 5 or so functions
17:43 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> I tried diplomat, but something felt off :\\. I'm just going to rawdawg it, my "library" is only 5 or so functions
17:47 <+bridge> <dontmila> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518281239738454256/image.png?ex=6a395917&is=6a380797&hm=262a3d7b2b9cb481242c48f1bf84590a72b39cbf498a05706fd7027ef6d7caf4&
17:59 <+bridge> <learath2> Mh, C is probably the closest thing we have to a "universal" interface. I think there is always great reason to expose a C interface from libraries
18:00 <+bridge> <learath2> Pretty much every compiled or even interpreted language has some way to interface with C libraries
18:34 <+bridge> <rei_ayanami_0001> wow
18:49 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Is there any ddnet client for 0.7 version with all functions of the latest ddnet? Saw one,but its not updated
18:49 <+bridge> <Assa> wdym?! What functionality are you missing?
18:50 <+bridge> <smetanolub> New antiping
18:51 <+bridge> <Assa> Either you mean predicted events or I have no clue what you want
18:51 <+bridge> <smetanolub> I mean, i want to use not just 0.6 that allows to play on 0.7 servers, but just play from 0.7 .it kinda looks different and newer
18:51 <+bridge> <Assa> you can play on 0.7 servers with the ddnet client
18:51 <+bridge> <Assa> (unless you want to play on chillerdragons servers)
18:52 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Yeah i know. But if you play ddrace from 07, all tees will look updated 07 version, and thats nice
18:53 <+bridge> <Assa> and you want the updated looks in all of ddnet?
18:53 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Yeah
18:54 <+bridge> <Assa> I don't know any way except directly using the 0.7 client
18:54 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Could it be added per chance? When you connect to 0.7 from ddnet client, u see skins from 0.7 
18:54 <+bridge> <smetanolub> I would like that on ddrace servers for 06
18:54 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Just see the looks of 07 ver
18:54 <+bridge> <Assa> I wonder if we can connect with the 0.7 protocol with the client 🤔 brb testing
18:54 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Thanks
18:57 <+bridge> <Assa> tried to connect with tw-0.7+udp://45.141.57.22:8371 but didn't work
18:58 <+bridge> <Assa> Also I'd say it's a missconception to say ddnet runs on 0.6 protocol, it runs on ddnet protocol
19:00 <+bridge> <Assa> this one works: 'tw-0.7+udp://177.221.141.100:8203'
19:00 <+bridge> <Assa> 
19:00 <+bridge> <Assa> Huh?
19:01 <+bridge> <Assa> it looks like you **can** join with 0.7 on every ddnet server except DDNet GER
19:01 <+bridge> <Assa> all you need to do is add `tw-0.7+udp://` infront of the IP adress
19:03 <+bridge> <Assa> @heinrich5991 is this intended?
19:05 <+bridge> <Assa> aaaand my game crashed 🙁
19:05 <+bridge> <Assa> 
19:05 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
19:05 <+bridge> <Assa> /home/essig/funspace/ddnet/vendor/libtw2-snapshot/src/snap.rs(697): item sizes can't be mismatched for self-created snapshots: DeltaDifferingSizes/home/essig/funspace/ddnet/vendor/libtw2-snapshot/src/snap.rs(697): item sizes can't be mismatched for self-created snapshots: DeltaDifferingSizes/home/essig/funspace/ddnet/vendor/libtw2-snapshot/src/snap.rs(697): item sizes can't be mismatched for self-created snapshots: DeltaDifferingSizes
19:05 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
19:10 <+bridge> <Assa> ah robyt found it
19:11 <+bridge> <Assa> @smetanolub TLDR currently not recommended :justatest:
19:18 <+bridge> <noname_07201> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518304159525245170/image.jpeg?ex=6a396e70&is=6a381cf0&hm=e1463174f4d9f5e158d99d54fdcef8cc5cf7591ec23a2756945817d2722dbf67&
19:18 <+bridge> <noname_07201> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518304160498581745/image.jpeg?ex=6a396e70&is=6a381cf0&hm=8410a197ec0400c9cd309c4d366192a8f380faa88f2cccfaf86a15b30fa9e6f1&
19:18 <+bridge> <noname_07201> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518304161593299014/image.jpeg?ex=6a396e70&is=6a381cf0&hm=c5bead24cbaa85eeb3464b08afc379934b0054e63cb63d2f400af28b51fb1662&
19:18 <+bridge> <noname_07201> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518304162105000088/image.jpeg?ex=6a396e70&is=6a381cf0&hm=ae84931fd09561f3f8ca367745d5df6c8be7b72a46209b994769376446f6d616&
19:19 <+bridge> <qetoast> Damn is Mr Beast not enough anymore :(
19:19 <+bridge> <qetoast> @discp
19:20 <+bridge> <Assa> > // This function tries pretty hard not to panic, even for suspicious parameters.
19:20 <+bridge> <Assa> 
19:20 <+bridge> <Assa> lol
19:22 <+bridge> <smetanolub> In console?
19:22 <+bridge> <Assa> in server browser when connecting - however you game might crash
19:23 <+bridge> <smetanolub> Okay... nevermind then
19:37 <+bridge> <dontmila> x2
19:37 <+bridge> <dontmila> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518308902910038167/image.png?ex=6a3972db&is=6a38215b&hm=37531e357864bacb02fea7828a35f21fe0398c230c4e988ac3c6311a7c33d95b&
19:52 <+bridge> <kebscs> 🤣
20:23 <+bridge> <jxsl13> as per chiller's methodology: bot client?
20:29 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> axaxaxaxa
20:29 <+bridge> <manikoo> yes, chillerbot
20:36 <+bridge> <Assa> I got called a bot today, the neural network is too good at aiming or something
20:43 <+bridge> <byfox> Someday I'll gather my strength and send my requests (There are a lot of changes xd)
20:44 <+bridge> <byfox> My version has a lot of fixes, but the code isn't exactly pleasant for heinrich xd
20:45 <+bridge> <Assa> take a look at the (open) crash issue - if you have ideas how to fix it write them there
20:45 <+bridge> <Assa> I deliberately did not take a look at the rust slice
20:46 <+bridge> <Assa> (except that the debugger jumped into it)
20:47 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> Can anyone see any UB https://github.com/ddnet-corpus/runner/blob/master/src/ffi.rs ? :justatest:
20:48 <+bridge> <byfox> Oh shit unsafe code....
20:49 <+bridge> <byfox> sixup trolling? :D
20:49 <+bridge> <byfox> 0.7(sixup) trolling? :D
20:59 <+bridge> <byfox> I’m about to look into what the cause might be, but work tasks are distracting me.
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> I think it's because I've refactored everything, and that's why these kinds of problems don't occur in my fork.
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> 
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> Actually, in https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/commit/9ef70df5b845faf6872e2d71971b7b96ed0a5c1b , this type of assertion was made, and this is where it happened.
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> ```rust
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> // Example panic in this code
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> if let Err(err) = create_item_delta(from_data, data, out_delta) {
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox>   panic!("item sizes can't be mismatched for self-created snapshots: {:?}, raw_type_id: {}, id: {}, from_len: {}, to_len: {}", err, raw_type_id, id, from_data.map(|d| d.len()).unwrap_or(0), data.len());
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> }
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> ```
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> Although I don't understand why there's an 'unwrap' there lol
21:18 <+bridge> <byfox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1518334351916404898/image.png?ex=6a398a8e&is=6a38390e&hm=e1d001325c1fa618d282daae964073d2bcf93074741bdbcab0c97e38f12a71e3&
21:26 <+bridge> <Assa> > `.unwrap_or(0)`
21:26 <+bridge> <Assa> 🤔
22:59 <+bridge> <dontmila> @01000111g
23:02 <+bridge> <01000111g> ?