00:07 <+bridge_> <Assa> it now reappeared, thank you
00:19 <+bridge_> <netsu_0741> DDosers paying $5 to feel like a hacker for 0.2 seconds on ddnet
00:20 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> yay
00:20 <+bridge_> <Assa> hoi fish, there was an AUR malware issue, you may need to check your installed packages
00:20 <+bridge_> <Assa> `bash <(curl -s https://cscs.pastes.sh/raw/aurvulntest20260611.sh | psub)`
00:20 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
00:20 <+bridge_> <Assa> Do not run the updates the next days
00:21 <+bridge_> <Assa> see https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/aur-compromised-1500-packages-affected-20260611/31040
00:26 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> oh wow
00:27 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> uh how do i turn off autoupdates lets see xd
00:27 <+bridge_> <Assa> you enabled autoupdates :justatest:
00:27 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> idk i need to check
00:27 <+bridge_> <Assa> on unbuntu it's the unattended-upgrades package, idk on cachy
00:28 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> im good though, none of the known infected packages i have
00:29 <+bridge_> <Assa> I was lucky, because I upgraded yesterday and didn't get any apparently :justatest:
00:34 <+bridge_> <mpft> it is a build flag
00:35 <+bridge_> <mpft> `-DAUTOUPDATE=[ON|OFF]`
00:36 <+bridge_> <mpft> funny right
00:37 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> i installed a few aurs rn too
06:26 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> ty us govt for nothing.
06:26 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> gimme my toys back 😭
06:35 <+bridge_> <louis> fr
06:36 <+bridge_> <louis> I was looking forward to my weekend
06:41 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> haven't slept all night 🥲
07:31 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1515227155628429424/voice-message.ogg?ex=6a2e3cc1&is=6a2ceb41&hm=a8244fbd9426a0b4cdd5959143d27ca8b27cc50582fd672665d31e44d2beb677&
09:03 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access
09:04 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> us straight out banning a model lmao
09:22 <+bridge_> <Fussel> Does this mean NSA fears it or do they want it to spread instead?
09:28 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I used that model. Not noticeably better than opus 4.8.
09:28 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
09:28 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Nice marketing stunt from us government for a private company
09:33 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> yeah i didnt see anything that said omg
09:33 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> i just hope some chinese one makes a better open one
09:33 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> and maybe some genius makes it fit in 16gb vram hopium
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Ppl just have to chill. Quick reminder that a human has around 200 trillion synapses.
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> In bytes that would be around 200TB. So even with strong quantization you probably need insane hardware to match a human brain.
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Synapses play a huge role in human creativity since they make you think of ddnet when u type the letter d on your keyboard even tho you are doing something completely unrelated to ddnet.
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
09:37 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Even if we only use 20% of our brain for real logic things.. Llms are powerful tools and have lot of knowledge but everyone acting as if they can make u hack any system is just blind to the creative part of hacking
09:38 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I honestly doubt that this ever possible
09:40 <+bridge_> <totar> it's amazing to think that we could have a 512gb ultra fast gpu for probably like $1500 if the margins were normal
09:42 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I'd already be happy to have 5090 for like 3500 🤣🤣
09:42 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 8k vr gaming still far away
09:42 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> For not\*
09:42 <+bridge_> <totar> I just meant the actual factory costs for all the components are really not that high, there's just not enough capacity
09:43 <+bridge_> <totar> so maybe eventually we will have it
09:43 <+bridge_> <totar> 10 years?
09:43 <+bridge_> <totar> maybe 15 to account for the 5 year global reccesion
09:43 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Yeah we'll. But still so sad how the yearly "we get new PC hardware" completely collapsed
09:44 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I guess we'll have to wait for the Chinese to catch up
09:48 <+bridge_> <totar> on this note llms are still so very behind what human minds can do in some areas. I can't even begin to imagine how you could get an LLM to create something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZxRhmW-YJg
09:50 <+bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Holy shit that is cool 😅
09:52 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Minecraft mentioned
09:55 <+bridge_> <totar> I'm not sure this will happen that soon. I think a big part of the reason that openai and anthropic models keep improving still is because they are collecting and training on everyone using their coding agents. it's basically perfect training data and they get to hoard it all for themselves
09:56 <+bridge_> <totar> imagine you get millions of the smart developers to spend hundreds of hours giving precise feedback and they pay you to do it 😂
09:57 <+bridge_> <totar> imagine you get millions of smart developers to spend hundreds of hours giving precise feedback and they pay you to do it 😂
10:17 <+bridge_> <louis> ye just from an information perspective not happening
10:18 <+bridge_> <louis> It is noticeably better than opus 4.8
10:25 <+bridge_> <louis> they also have 20 bajillion dollars in investor money
11:46 <+bridge_> <Fussel> I'd argue that `num_arguments` being too large is more of a potential problem ... :happy:
11:48 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes
11:48 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> 🤷‍♀️ I just wanted to get rid of https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/12136 and I decided adding the check doesn't make the code worse
12:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> @milkeeycat add ctlr+w for deleting word pls 🥺
12:38 <+bridge_> <teero777> @milkeeycat add ctrl+w for deleting word pls 🥺
12:40 <+bridge_> <kebscs> ctrl+w is for closing a tab
12:40 <+bridge_> <teero777> windows user yea
12:41 <+bridge_> <kebscs> yea
12:41 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> also in my linux firefox
12:41 <+bridge_> <teero777> yes
12:41 <+bridge_> <teero777> i wish it was different
12:41 <+bridge_> <teero777> it's a web browser thing ig
12:41 <+bridge_> <kebscs> ctrl backspace deletes the word
12:41 <+bridge_> <kebscs> why w
12:42 <+bridge_> <teero777> because you need 2 hands for ctrl backspace
12:42 <+bridge_> <teero777> and c-w has been delete word since the beginning of the universe
12:42 <+bridge_> <kebscs> but you also use 2 hands for typing
12:43 <+bridge_> <kebscs> i do ctrl x if i want to delete with 1 hand :)
12:43 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> only in emacs-compatible stuff, I think?
12:43 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> maybe just ctrl+u ctrl+k?
12:44 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> ah wait no that would delete too much you meant only a word
12:44 <+bridge_> <teero777> every terminal emulator ive used has ctrl+w as delete word, and it's the same in vim insert mode
12:44 <+bridge_> <teero777> idk
12:44 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> that's not the terminal emulator, _I think_, but getline
12:45 <+bridge_> <teero777> oh
12:49 <+bridge_> <teero777> llm says libreadline and werase for tty
12:55 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> ah, it's called readline, not getline
12:56 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/readline/rltop.html
12:57 <+bridge_> <teero777> it is indeed from gnu
12:57 <+bridge_> <teero777> > The GNU Readline library provides a set of functions for use by applications that allow users to edit command lines as they are typed in. Both Emacs and vi editing modes are available. The Readline library includes additional functions to maintain a list of previously-entered command lines, to recall and perhaps reedit those lines, and perform csh-like history expansion on previous commands.
12:58 <+bridge_> <teero777> ive never heard of cshell before
12:58 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_shell
13:00 <+bridge_> <teero777> wait you can just install shells on windows??
13:01 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> elaborate?
13:01 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> there's e.g. msys2 which allows you to have bash and usual linux tooling on windows
13:03 <+bridge_> <teero777> ah okay nvm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX
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14:33 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> @Discord Mod
15:03 <+bridge_> <chairn> because it's shitty
15:04 <+bridge_> <chairn> it can be incoherent with itself, syntax wise
17:28 <+bridge_> <teero777> are you talking from experience?
17:33 <+bridge_> <chairn> indeed, it was the default shell used by tools and people in electronics design
17:33 <+bridge_> <chairn> not my best memories
18:42 <+bridge_> <melon> cshell cshells in the cshore
18:42 <+bridge_> <melon> cshella cshells in the cshore
18:43 <+bridge_> <melon> cshells cshells in the cshore
18:44 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> @chillerdragon huuuh, i need a pr approval and a new tagged version v2.1.0 : https://github.com/teeworlds-go/huffman/pull/9
18:44 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> huuuhn
18:45 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> chiller
18:45 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> I need some magic words that ring a bell somewhere in his NSA basement >:O
18:51 <+bridge_> <melon> ChillerDragon:
18:57 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> he heard it somewhere ringing 😮
18:58 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> let's pray for a new version
18:59 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> k, i'm stupid, confused my fork with his repo xD
18:59 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> thought the pr was merged...
19:54 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> can someone who uses X11 test some stuff please? Run `xmodmap -e "keysym Caps_Lock = Escape"` and then check if caps lock key works as escape key in ddnet, and then run `xmodmap -e "keysym a = Escape"` and check if `a` key works as escape
19:59 <+bridge_> <teero777> uh my capslock is already escape via keyd, which works
20:00 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> `keyd` is a bit different thing from what I understand
20:00 <+bridge_> <teero777> ye
20:30 <+bridge_> <melon> my dad sent me his new website which he made so i can check his projects
20:30 <+bridge_> <melon> 
20:30 <+bridge_> <melon> the project in question:
20:30 <+bridge_> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1515423006749622272/image.png?ex=6a2ef328&is=6a2da1a8&hm=262e18583ffe19c9e80df6e11636c84efa85cef39c9aef8df98080700bec1e62&
21:42 <+bridge_> <teero777> reminds me of this xd
21:42 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1515441283441754132/dickheads__.mp4?ex=6a2f042d&is=6a2db2ad&hm=c7005b5e66da3dc4b63ad9e6b333e67a1080847e5364efe316c9c5488e2d66d5&
22:10 <+bridge_> <murpi> Jah Ith Ber
22:10 <+bridge_> <murpi> Tal Thul Ort Amn
22:11 <+bridge_> <melon> https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragonballsuper-dragonball-meme-language-of-gods-gif-14707991
22:11 <+bridge_> <murpi> Ral Tir Tal Sol
22:11 <+bridge_> <murpi> Literally ingrained into my brain
22:14 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> ChillerDragon 👀
22:27 <+bridge_> <ddnet.org/downloads enjoyer> https://tenor.com/cR6F7Tdpqd1.gif
22:28 <+bridge_> <ddnet.org/downloads enjoyer> @murpi the power of christ compels you!
22:52 <+bridge_> <manikoo> bro please use english
23:39 <+bridge_> <jxsl13> ChillerDragon  👀