00:18 <+bridge> <totar> I dont like error handling in Go, its so verbose for no reason
00:51 <+bridge> <mpft> (he prefers his errors unchecked, spurious and inconsistently formed)
01:26 <+bridge> <totar> I just mean the literally syntax is too verbose, rust has the ? operator
01:26 <+bridge> <totar> I just mean the literal syntax is too verbose, rust has the ? operator
01:27 <+bridge> <totar> its also just ugly
02:08 <+bridge> <mpft> fair
02:08 <+bridge> <mpft> ? in rust is also kind of a pain
03:23 <+bridge> <_secretbb_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510453507084521642/image.jpg?ex=6a1cdef2&is=6a1b8d72&hm=a012c4aec2e5ff21648d5a581b50d1422a7a50fe8aac29fcdb11ce29338789d2&
03:23 <+bridge> <_secretbb_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510453507486908616/image.jpg?ex=6a1cdef3&is=6a1b8d73&hm=10686f6df21f613fa869c179bb7c9ed8f7c545193cf525d1ddc594dd15a387ab&
03:23 <+bridge> <_secretbb_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510453507877109893/image.jpg?ex=6a1cdef3&is=6a1b8d73&hm=638be40b5aaba7cb652a6b0427da0e6c677552ab304d0504cde30216838f258b&
03:23 <+bridge> <_secretbb_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510453508292218930/image.jpg?ex=6a1cdef3&is=6a1b8d73&hm=724a1d9686dae353c7ef5e29daeea961dd110984b05036cd968758e1e3f63c93&
03:24 <+bridge> <mpft> @Discord Mod i still dont know who to ping in situations like this
03:53 <+bridge> <melon> That was the correct ping ❤️
07:07 <+bridge> <catilove2> bro
07:07 <+bridge> <catilove2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510510086492262520/1.jpg?ex=6a1d13a4&is=6a1bc224&hm=84edc987b6509e12862f5b983163498b0b4e2c3a6467d9621d0cbf8208fbde08&
07:07 <+bridge> <catilove2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510510086806704300/2.jpg?ex=6a1d13a4&is=6a1bc224&hm=047889239fbc7fbaef27b76eb4c028a07ad939fcfe3866dfe4c3773910237b10&
07:07 <+bridge> <catilove2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510510087180124160/3.jpg?ex=6a1d13a4&is=6a1bc224&hm=45b5cd04717d55f34d1341c825ef09250f33b3f9007f8c8b5a47d29933a1d767&
07:07 <+bridge> <catilove2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510510087591170058/4.jpg?ex=6a1d13a4&is=6a1bc224&hm=07057f5a2ac2ad54ec1c8f76032adb703c5f0c2581854bc807c285e9dac84148&
09:19 <+ChillerDragon> woah i just realized
09:19 <+ChillerDragon> english is missing the word "Daseinsberechtigung"
09:19 <+ChillerDragon> $deepl
09:19 <+ChillerDragon> what a bugged language ngl
09:19 <+ChillerDragon> when patch
09:36 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Go is such a productive language, I don't understand why error handling is soooo redundant
09:37 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> at least it's not rust :troll:
10:18 <+bridge> <learath2> It is quite verbose, but it tickles my C proclivity in just the right way
10:18 <+bridge> <learath2> While having much more structured errors at the same time
10:18 <+bridge> <learath2> I just like having guard clauses right after my fallible calls, can just skim over and see if there are any unguarded calls
10:41 <+bridge> <aegisub> thoughts on Zig?
10:41 <+CN-Bridge> <Bamcane>  Yet another plugin idea, lol
10:41 <+bridge> <aegisub> wait I think I asked you this before
10:53 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Zig is as satisfied as the hammer fly
10:53 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Zig is as satisfyingas the hammer fly
10:53 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Zig is as satisfying as the hammer fly
10:56 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> A huuuuuge amount of flexibility and control without being verbose (except for lambda functions)
10:56 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Maximum interoperability with C, what more could we ask for?
10:57 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> I forgot about comptime, which is the killer feature with allocators
11:00 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> The current problem is that it's stuck in beta because there's work to be done on the compiler, the syntax has been fairly stable for several versions (minor changes in each update)
11:01 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> I'm sure it will be a hit in the video game development area
11:02 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Unlike C++, where pros have to move away from the STL, disable exceptions and RTTI, and abuse code generation
11:02 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Unlike C++, where pros have to move away from the STL, disable exceptions and RTTI, and  overuse code generation
11:03 <+bridge> <.brainlesstee> Unlike C++, where pros have to move away from the STL, disable exceptions and RTTI, and overuse code generation
11:37 <+ChillerDragon> we should add lambda functions to hammerfly
11:37 <+CN-Bridge> <Bamcane>  why?
11:37 <+ChillerDragon> xd
11:38 <+CN-Bridge> <Bamcane>  oh ok, I see
11:38 <+ChillerDragon> i may have been trolling
12:27 <+bridge> <learath2> I think you did, I never really used it enough to have an well educated opinion on it, but I did write a couple toy things and it was fun. Perhaps passing around allocators everywhere was kinda too verbose for even my taste.
12:28 <+bridge> <learath2> Overall, decent from my admittedly limited experience
12:44 <+bridge> <melon> I don't even want a new language, I want c++ with cargo :justatest:
12:51 <+bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> Languages with package managers are a plague
12:52 <+bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> If your library isn't important enough to be shipped with the system then uhh tough luck
12:53 <+bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> One package manager per system is the true way
12:59 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I often do cargo install over using my pkg manager bcs it's the better package manager 😏
13:01 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> cargo is top3 reasons pro rust for me.
13:01 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
13:01 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> not even powerhorses like npm feel so easy to use as cargo
13:19 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Who is that?
13:19 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://files.catbox.moe/cxxwxd.png
13:20 <+bridge> <learath2> I want C++ cleaned up, shipped with rust `Result` and `Option` and `Error`
13:21 <+bridge> <learath2> I'll also take `proc-macro` please
13:22 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Only borrow checker left and you have Rust 😂
13:23 <+CN-Bridge> <Bamcane>  std::expected?
13:25 <+bridge> <learath2> I'm not a huge fan of lifetimes and the borrow checker being on my ass all the time
13:25 <+bridge> <learath2> I know it's a skill issue, but I just find myself wrestling with borrowck more than I'm writing code, it takes me out of the flow zone
14:15 <+bridge> <aegisub> C++ has all of these, they're just verbose as fuck like all modern c++
14:15 <+bridge> <aegisub> C++ has most of these, they're just verbose as fuck like all modern c++
15:54 <+bridge> <08nw> bro
15:54 <+bridge> <08nw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510642584148508772/1.jpg?ex=6a1d8f0a&is=6a1c3d8a&hm=eaaa8fb92c4cd63cbe89b3cef151f1e62bdaea7b154b6ea93b869829fc9a1b70&
15:54 <+bridge> <08nw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510642584618533004/2.jpg?ex=6a1d8f0a&is=6a1c3d8a&hm=984da6f1436adaaf6181bfb02f6b04c0509afe315d3bd589d9ce4ac2f544fafd&
15:54 <+bridge> <08nw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510642585448742982/3.jpg?ex=6a1d8f0a&is=6a1c3d8a&hm=c9a0d7bfd423c45ce1999baf7d00e3932cbd57627b0aae0a9260b2af61c456b0&
15:54 <+bridge> <08nw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510642585994264586/4.jpg?ex=6a1d8f0a&is=6a1c3d8a&hm=5225580adb3f098bf5984223c276b6186c9f4a261b9379ab221fc6abdab3321a&
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> @zwelf2 do you generally accept PR's on TwGame?
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> 
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> i'd like to migrate our internal stuff a bit, and with that i'd like to use `tee-hee` and `replayer` for our moderators.
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> 
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> the Sanitization of the Replayer is a little too loose for certain things (i.e /login keybinds), i could PR those if you want.
16:21 <+bridge> <melon> otherwise i'll just maintain the fork myself ^^
16:22 <+bridge> <melon> or maybe just wrap them under a `sanitize` flag, unsure :p
16:29 <+bridge> <hyurma._87048> bro
16:29 <+bridge> <hyurma._87048> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510651337904361634/1.jpg?ex=6a1d9731&is=6a1c45b1&hm=e678ef6b06059a3283ad6c40e2b35c35d32cdeb7210323b07343a2401afc2f39&
16:29 <+bridge> <hyurma._87048> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510651338403352666/2.jpg?ex=6a1d9731&is=6a1c45b1&hm=87171a6e253e2172fa3a2fcda86ec96b49237647de2352eeaf568e374d9df87e&
16:29 <+bridge> <hyurma._87048> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510651338751606784/3.jpg?ex=6a1d9731&is=6a1c45b1&hm=2776e17ee475b0f63ae165f2cd223b717be5ce62c800995cd0de8474a56d93b9&
16:29 <+bridge> <hyurma._87048> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510651339355717722/4.jpg?ex=6a1d9731&is=6a1c45b1&hm=d77510d46615f93085d2ad4594da6634cedcf8f896f25fa80fd8ee54e456ad04&
16:29 <+bridge> <melon> my lord
16:29 <+bridge> <melon> 2 in a row
16:55 <+bridge> <ssddssdd2> bro
16:55 <+bridge> <ssddssdd2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510658065022713999/1.jpg?ex=6a1d9d75&is=6a1c4bf5&hm=70c3dbf86bfd150b39d10ce50b9406b277dc2b650fe2ff54db10dad00b693df4&
16:55 <+bridge> <ssddssdd2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510658066087936190/2.jpg?ex=6a1d9d75&is=6a1c4bf5&hm=cd11556a8b023c02acbd5161d0149d1ccae3f5e90bd6f6ef000e1252b3789398&
16:55 <+bridge> <ssddssdd2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510658066893504613/3.jpg?ex=6a1d9d75&is=6a1c4bf5&hm=de9a3e224aa5b118f929a60b5e01c96509e25957172b8678261ce353f5327fc7&
16:55 <+bridge> <ssddssdd2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510658068151533638/4.jpg?ex=6a1d9d76&is=6a1c4bf6&hm=31bb9ac4d698bd59b7386de6f0249d959c8373198a1930df2e37a472d8003d96&
18:58 <+ChillerDragon> jupsi
18:58 <+ChillerDragon> whos gh is that
18:58 <+ChillerDragon> 2k is kinda low ngl xd
18:59 <+bridge> <teero777> what?
19:10 <+bridge> <zwelf2> happy to review and accept prs
19:12 <+bridge> <zwelf2> either way would be fine. Just dropping these messages is probably good enough (I already have some sanitation on messages that get written into demos)
19:13 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> chillerdragon: robyt
19:15 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> mikeey pro gamer
19:16 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> chiller: it's 2k actual work and not spaming ppl on github tho
19:39 <+ChillerDragon> hrhr
19:39 <+ChillerDragon> okok
20:18 <+bridge> <andycallisto> Is there going to be a F-Droid release?
20:19 <+bridge> <Assa> We want one and there is an open issue about it, but it seems to be stuck
23:32 <+bridge> <_suffocation_> what apps would you recommend for draving tileset or quads? especially i need help with making images "rgba" cause i dont know shit but i want to make custom background
23:33 <+bridge> <abricotiabricota> Inkscape
23:33 <+bridge> <_suffocation_> thankls
23:33 <+bridge> <_suffocation_> thanks
23:36 <+bridge> <abricotiabricota> Wrong channel tho, ig you should have asked in https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/745926398140612678
23:37 <+bridge> <_suffocation_> i didnt know sorry