00:07 <+bridge> <teero777> yes, but usually thats not the case
00:10 <+bridge> <totar> actually tho that clip doesn't make any sense
00:10 <+bridge> <totar> it's still hitting even after the hook ends
00:10 <+bridge> <totar> is that due to the tick alignment of the distance checks?
00:11 <+bridge> <totar> how do you run out of distance if the hook line is still green?
00:11 <+bridge> <totar> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509680536283516988/image.png?ex=6a1a0f10&is=6a18bd90&hm=aaca07562183a5e35c76d45727d060ef53c47dfbca3b63bc997871b0e6fe9c83&
00:11 <+bridge> <teero777> no idea
00:11 <+bridge> <teero777> this is the last tick that the hook would be in range ig?
00:12 <+bridge> <teero777> is it clamped? i dont remember
00:12 <+bridge> <totar> does moving backwards give you a shorter max range?
00:12 <+bridge> <totar> I don't think you were moving fast enough to trigger the tick alignment thing
00:12 <+bridge> <totar> unless it's easier to do backwards
00:13 <+bridge> <teero777> i barely have any speed tho
00:14 <+bridge> <totar> basically every tick it checks if you have at least hookspeed distance left, and if you do it keeps going, and because the default hookspeed is not a multiple of the default hookrange if you misalign the distance checks with your position you can get more or less range
00:15 <+bridge> <teero777> thats horrible
00:15 <+bridge> <totar> but in this case I don't see how it could have failed the check?
00:15 <+bridge> <teero777> wdym? the next hook tick would be over the limit, so it stopped
00:15 <+bridge> <totar> but the hookline shows you had limit remaining
00:15 <+bridge> <teero777> but i moved backwards
00:15 <+bridge> <totar> ah hmm
00:15 <+bridge> <teero777> it checks distance from current tee pos not from hook start pos
00:15 <+bridge> <totar> ig it is easier to do moving backwards
00:16 <+bridge> <teero777> garbage it is
00:16 <+bridge> <totar> normally you need to move very fast to cause it to extend, but if you move back then you lose on range unless you move very fast
00:17 <+bridge> <teero777> can we fix this? xd
00:18 <+bridge> <totar> no lol?
00:18 <+bridge> <totar> it's teeworlds physics
00:19 <+bridge> <totar> I'm still not sure I understand this tho
00:19 <+bridge> <totar> normally you have EXTRA range that isn't used, so moving back should let you use it
00:19 <+bridge> <teero777> another impossible to humanly predict "feature" that makes gameplay purely worse
00:21 <+bridge> <totar> there's no way you moved back more than 60 units from starting right?
00:22 <+bridge> <totar> It might just be a hookline bug ngl
00:27 <+bridge> <totar> I don't understand this interaction, it looks like you had enough range
00:28 <+bridge> <totar> it didn't mispredict when you did that right?
00:28 <+bridge> <teero777> nope
00:37 <+bridge> <teero777> I JUST DIED
00:37 <+bridge> <teero777> this 2 times in a row
00:46 <+bridge> <broso56> i mean the speed affects the hook distance i think but that seems like an extreme case lol
00:47 <+bridge> <broso56> and shouldnt be a new thing
01:30 <+bridge> <Assa> send patches, go into this rabbit hole
01:30 <+bridge> <Assa> https://giphy.com/gifs/watchitontubi-rabbit-throw-tubi-0nxGJF89fjpLhZ8kGb
02:18 <+bridge> <teero777> [this hand](https://www.amazon.com/Medou-Halloween-Decoration-Realistic-Decorations/dp/B0BBVYXLM7?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.eC9Uq2cLGQ-1flPaRVa5zsYV8nmyeQGLDxmFrPtrR53x45sXT3WF0vazjG_FCtIAXwVkzEGqinTmsqQtHkr_d07GyGIm5QLJcfKxOk_CI9lSwOZY-yXoISIxreFK4i39RD_zawwhTwKbZy4SO3bA-vIQPcMEs3WkSyyRK6wwSd4Jif14v_XYXPTicBtv1jyQlU9mIOpgrerGI0bUFOlEx8fw1-5v07Kb1Ctea_ayD_Dux5e1Fprfpo9abEHr3OPeErwwHvaFB1C1nQi9B8WELQYvAk8jpabgIAITS04yc4BKXzWPNIBOuMzW3_Wg3xvzWeQ7aI086vDE5Ilt
04:30 <+bridge> <boxymaloxy> when will the mobile version have slightly better default ctrls
04:31 <+bridge> <boxymaloxy> like the analog cursor mover button is placed where the jump button is and it just spams it should do that only when its released and why is the jump button OVER the mobile left and right movement buttons
04:32 <+bridge> <mpft> you should make an issue on GitHub
04:32 <+bridge> <mpft> https://github.com/DDNet/DDNet/issues
04:32 <+bridge> <boxymaloxy> uh thanks
04:32 <+bridge> <mpft> i mean your chat in here is probably helpful too lol
04:32 <+bridge> <mpft> that's just how progress gets made
05:44 <+bridge> <louis> @alw5 https://github.com/l-ouis/ccaccs there u go
05:44 <+bridge> <louis> light lil +9400 -200 slop to review
06:06 <+bridge> <mpft> all i see is slop
07:38 <+bridge> <melon> why he so angry
07:38 <+bridge> <melon> why they so angry
07:39 <+bridge> <mpft> because robyte didn't consult them before adding the feature
07:42 <+bridge> <mpft> melon I need this blemish on my ign surgically removed
07:42 <+bridge> <melon> @mpft bob
07:42 <+bridge> <melon> sorry for the tag, but that should remove the tag in a moment
07:42 <+bridge> <melon> sorry for the tag, but that should remove the icon in a moment
07:42 <+bridge> <mpft> confused
07:43 <+bridge> <mpft> ohh I see
07:43 <+bridge> <mpft> yeah I meant the patchwork rank
07:43 <+bridge> <melon> oooh right, that - i.. totally forgot :kek:
07:43 <+bridge> <melon> let me actually check that really quick.
09:56 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @ryozuki: Finally copy ranges in new Rust
09:56 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> We need new edition
10:12 <+bridge> <ryozuki> pog
10:12 <+bridge> <ryozuki> im one year older today
10:12 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I am 30+ already
10:12 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Fucking old granny
10:12 <+bridge> <ryozuki> rip
10:12 <+bridge> <ryozuki> 26, only 4 left to 30
10:14 <+bridge> <Nouaa> old folks
10:20 <+bridge> <totar> Do you run multiple at the same time? How do you use that much
10:28 <+bridge> <blazu da apol> woah you use ai just wow... l*uis might be problematic medias...
10:28 <+bridge> <blazu da apol> /j
11:29 <+bridge> <ryozuki> its da wae
11:30 <+bridge> <ryozuki> 3 20x is insane tho
11:30 <+bridge> <ryozuki> i barely use up my 5x
11:39 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> what the c++ trolling me
11:40 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> `pAccount->m_LastLogin = std::nullopt;` compiles
11:40 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> `pAccount->m_LastLogin = pSqlServer->GetInt64(Offset);` compiles too
11:40 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> `pAccount->m_LastLogin = pSqlServer->IsNull(Offset) ? std::nullopt : pSqlServer->GetInt64(Offset);` does  not
11:40 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> `error: operands to ‘?:’ have different types ‘const std::nullopt_t’ and ‘int64_t’ {aka ‘long int’}`
11:41 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> why would the ternary affect the types???
11:44 <+bridge> <chairn> it's required to have same type
11:44 <+bridge> <chairn> https://en.cppreference.com/cpp/language/operator_other#Conditional_operator
11:45 <+bridge> <chairn> or you need implicit conversion to be possible
11:45 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> i am tempted to cast it xd
11:45 <+bridge> <aegisub> yeah just cast
11:47 <+bridge> <aegisub> or use a default constructor
11:47 <+bridge> <aegisub> `pSqlServer->IsNull(Offset) ? std::optional<int64_t>{} : pSqlServer->GetInt64(Offset);`
11:49 <+bridge> <aegisub> reminder that c++ does not have hindley-milner or  bidirectional type checking or anything like that, it very stupidly constructs types of values out of the types of their constitutents
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it is, i never hit 100% usage with max plan yet in my work.. 
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> not even at busy weeks.
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> sadly i dont have /fast mode tho
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> also tested 4.8 today. feels just as stupid as 4.7 😬
11:51 <+bridge> <learath2> That one is so annoying
12:18 <+bridge> <ryozuki> i hate cooking when its hot
12:18 <+bridge> <ryozuki> it feels even hotter
12:24 <+bridge> <Assa> I just baked baguette in the oven and I must agree ;_;
12:29 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> new home have a small cooling unit above the stove
12:29 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> My new home have a small cooling unit above the stove
12:29 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> I haven't registered the gas line so I haven't tested them
12:30 <+bridge> <Assa> I have a ceiling fan, doesn't help if it's 30+° in your office
12:30 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> :omo:
12:30 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> It's not a fan. But I don't know what it is either
12:30 <+bridge> <tsfreddie_abandoned> They just says it cools
15:15 <+bridge> <patiga> anyone versed in dead reckoning please feel encourage to contribute :) https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/pull/139
15:21 <+bridge> <patiga> anyone versed in dead reckoning please feel encouraged to contribute :) https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/pull/139
15:27 <+bridge> <Assa> @totar AFAIK you know a lot about this :justatest:
16:08 <+bridge> <teero777> omg gemini3.1 is so damn retarded
16:24 <+bridge> <ryozuki> isnt there 3.4
16:29 <+bridge> <teero777> not that i know of?
16:29 <+bridge> <teero777> https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-5/
16:29 <+bridge> <teero777> oh wtf
16:29 <+bridge> <ryozuki> https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/
16:30 <+bridge> <ryozuki> ur using yearo ld tech
16:31 <+bridge> <teero777> on the website it still says 3.1 pro is the best?
16:31 <+bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509927270511415487/image.png?ex=6a1af4da&is=6a19a35a&hm=5d072aef9646670a98dc767bea615d72d00203846e5c5b9d664938d4dcdac2bb&
16:35 <+bridge> <ryozuki> what web
16:35 <+bridge> <ryozuki> i never used it xD
16:37 <+bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509928728103354489/image.png?ex=6a1af635&is=6a19a4b5&hm=6c3aa57c3ce6877e272c359914d8519cf08a22c5c2837f2c02a6d22cca0c2b8a&
16:37 <+bridge> <ryozuki> i guess they didnt release a 3.5 pro on the web? idk
16:38 <+bridge> <ryozuki> tho looks like flash is better
16:38 <+bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509928918285553774/image.png?ex=6a1af663&is=6a19a4e3&hm=c25a1cdb58db9254a5c2d0625fbd493a3232f8d3027a3ee4452650cb38347067&
17:24 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> Could I do a chat bridge for TeeworldsCN developers on the irc? 😄
17:37 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> wait, did we skip the release of 19.9?
17:50 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> the nighly build is 20.0 now D:
17:53 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> :thonk:
17:54 <+bridge> <kebscs> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/1495241645107445982
17:55 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> but there's not 19.9 release.
17:55 <+bridge> <kebscs> idk
18:04 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> :thonk:
18:17 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> Would we add something for modifications?
18:21 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> the missing version lmao.
18:26 <+bridge> <louis> im doing evals for models, so need to run a lot of calls
18:44 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> oh no
18:44 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> IRC was locked.
18:44 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> :frozen:
18:52 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> uh..what I need to do for get the permission for IRC?
18:52 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> :thonk:
19:46 <+bridge> <doktorgg> yo
19:46 <+bridge> <pluskz> Stuck in release candidate due to rust problems
19:51 <+bridge> <kebscs> isnt 19.8.2 with rust aswell?
19:51 <+bridge> <kebscs> i remember the .2 being released with it
19:52 <+bridge> <xoviiii> bro
19:52 <+bridge> <xoviiii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509977719742398565/1.jpg?ex=6a1b23d6&is=6a19d256&hm=91e80e7e635f895780230f8b4d33127ca91d0243456479c353da43d86517918a&
19:52 <+bridge> <xoviiii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509977720157769860/2.jpg?ex=6a1b23d6&is=6a19d256&hm=3bd22ee71ebc402a8245fed957427633d7b54eadab9d659ca9c6bd278387e8cb&
19:52 <+bridge> <xoviiii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509977720572870888/3.jpg?ex=6a1b23d6&is=6a19d256&hm=7bd556ac572a30125636fd1f43a000e73308d2212640a9a52e3546abcb8406a9&
19:52 <+bridge> <xoviiii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1509977721122455582/4.jpg?ex=6a1b23d6&is=6a19d256&hm=e5c42da948869ff56ba699d05a57d578f952f85ba72c1413cadaf673f99871f4&
19:52 <+bridge> <pluskz> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commits/19.8.3/
19:52 <+bridge> <doktorgg> :cammostripes:
19:54 <+bridge> <kebscs> yea so it is
19:54 <+bridge> <pluskz> It's reverted in that tag
19:55 <+bridge> <pluskz> It has the cpp incomplete fix
19:56 <+bridge> <kebscs> ah ye didnt see the reverted
20:38 <+furo> @patiga I don't have an account, but you could mention that the simulated world is always running with default tuning.
20:38 <+bridge> <patiga> yes, thanks for the detail :)
20:44 <+bridge> <patiga> (pushed)
20:48 <+furo> @patiga That's not what I meant, I wasn't talking about DDNet tune zunes. The simulation will always run with default tuning even if the client has the real tuning.
20:48 <+bridge> <patiga> ah, is tunings also a thing in vanilla?
20:48 <+furo> Yes
20:48 <+bridge> <patiga> 👍
20:53 <+bridge> <patiga> how about now? I added it in a now separate section 'Physics'
20:56 <+furo> Looks good!
21:17 <+bridge> <patiga> nice :)
21:21 <+bridge> <karlbert> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510000227543810068/1.jpg?ex=6a1b38cc&is=6a19e74c&hm=693eea5e92d877203b5e73c2b305960a57679fbbcc139fb9e70bff2341e7fae4&
21:21 <+bridge> <karlbert> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510000228428812318/2.jpg?ex=6a1b38cc&is=6a19e74c&hm=1619fa0a45aebb49651a83c97884987dafdeb5cd29e09911578e6bc4f0161d53&
21:21 <+bridge> <karlbert> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510000228986523718/3.jpg?ex=6a1b38cd&is=6a19e74d&hm=abc55426a302d068b3fcc349f4d2b0ab6dcf143cbd4e2f3e1b75b9414ca9d1a1&
21:21 <+bridge> <karlbert> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510000229691162675/4.jpg?ex=6a1b38cd&is=6a19e74d&hm=3d59165daa97943b3dc5acffed512ef0d6ea7eb9cc4cff24db0091a33564b2f1&
21:34 <+bridge> <jacobdavis930794_89357> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510003379844415651/image.jpg?ex=6a1b3bbc&is=6a19ea3c&hm=89b7e74f91cd49ce70c0f48c46f1a3f9846b3e1aab7f3880f55963a76cc9b6e5&
21:34 <+bridge> <jacobdavis930794_89357> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510003380221775912/image.jpg?ex=6a1b3bbc&is=6a19ea3c&hm=602813f9a0dcee21dc55a7453cb2fc3f3ad3b8d86e7d68111ad560fa75e7d88b&
21:41 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Wait what really furo?
21:41 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Shouldn’t that mean that the prediction gets super bugged as soon as there are some tunes
21:41 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I never noticed that
21:42 <+bridge> <patiga> it would mean that the snap deltas are bigger as the character cores need to be updated much more often
22:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Oh I see so it’s not noticeable to the user because the server knows it’s wrong before sending it and just sends the updated values
22:51 <+bridge> <patiga> exactly :)
23:33 <+bridge> <totar> tbh the fact it doesnt work with tunes and no one notices makes me feels like its not worth doing in the first place. It adds a lot of complexity and we cant even rely on it being available
23:40 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1tr7ck3/nvidia_going_to_launch_something_big_during/
23:40 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Leet
23:40 <+bridge> <totar> The ddnetrs system is how it should work but we'll never have that
23:40 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I want 6090
23:41 <+bridge> <kebscs> its going to be something ai
23:41 <+bridge> <kebscs> not a new gpu :kek:
23:41 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> True T\_T
23:41 <+bridge> <kebscs> how does it work in ddnetrs?
23:41 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> We didn't have high end amd in years, so sad
23:42 <+bridge> <totar> Entire physics is always synced between client and server with wasm so you dont need to set aside or preserve special physics for dead reckoning
23:43 <+bridge> <totar> and its reliably available
23:43 <+bridge> <totar> so you can measure server performance with it enabled
23:43 <+bridge> <kebscs> wasm, so phsics code is sent from server to client on connect?
23:44 <+bridge> <totar> Yes
23:44 <+bridge> <sans._.> Jupsar why don't you make your own breadboard gpu? :D
23:44 <+bridge> <sans._.> I'm sure it's going to run just as smooth as nvidia's year 2030 flagship
23:45 <+bridge> <melon> :staring:
23:46 <+bridge> <sans._.> This guy done it: https://youtu.be/OW1EmG7b4DU
23:46 <+bridge> <sans._.> surely this can be improved
23:48 <+bridge> <sans._.> (very interesting video btw, even for non-hardware enthusiasts)
23:48 <+bridge> <totar> I would be surprised if nvidia makes another high end gaming gpu before ai bubble collapse
23:49 <+bridge> <totar> Unless they charge $8000 for it
23:49 <+bridge> <sans._.> pretty sure this year the bubble pops
23:49 <+bridge> <totar> nah
23:49 <+bridge> <totar> 3 more minimum
23:49 <+bridge> <sans._.> have you seen the price of claude?
23:50 <+bridge> <sans._.> the future of ai is self hosting 6-10gb models
23:50 <+bridge> <sans._.> maybe with 30+ billion params
23:50 <+bridge> <sans._.> probably not though
23:50 <+bridge> <totar> People pay it tho
23:50 <+bridge> <totar> They charge like 10x what it costs them probably
23:50 <+bridge> <sans._.> @blaiszephyr can you confirm how deep is the grave you dug out for your credit card
23:51 <+bridge> <melon> i dont pay for AI agents
23:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I think without pressure from competitors nvidia will do shit
23:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> The 4090 still costs 2k+
23:51 <+bridge> <sans._.> a certain admin mail ticket says otherwise :kekw:
23:51 <+bridge> <totar> What competitors? lol
23:51 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> It's like over 4 years old gpu
23:51 <+bridge> <melon> doesnt mean i pay for it :froggo_sip:
23:51 <+bridge> <sans._.> :u_sure_bro:
23:52 <+bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Exactly
23:53 <+bridge> <sans._.> 2.1k to be exact, this is worth more than my car
23:53 <+bridge> <sans._.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1510038462378807357/image.png?ex=6a1b5c68&is=6a1a0ae8&hm=a9046eeedb43be1ace5a723b5e68fd0d05fbdd8053f3d1e47537c902f25b17d2&