09:46 <+bridge_> <bochka_91139> bro
09:46 <+bridge_> <bochka_91139> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497503970384547841/1.jpg?ex=69edc2c0&is=69ec7140&hm=53aebdfa28f1e57ad67dd8d068bb45dc8d8e2b874f01c848659b49b7756820a2&
09:46 <+bridge_> <bochka_91139> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497503971030470666/2.jpg?ex=69edc2c0&is=69ec7140&hm=a6630ca62ecf45fcb8e0e38692bce9f8c28e223a9eeb7dc1bb3977f506da5ce7&
09:46 <+bridge_> <bochka_91139> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497503971441377460/3.jpg?ex=69edc2c1&is=69ec7141&hm=c892f2de5cabcf9f3bf24f844e4b18a4aee80ea36791a0584edcb422e6053321&
09:46 <+bridge_> <bochka_91139> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497503971949154504/4.jpg?ex=69edc2c1&is=69ec7141&hm=1a6faf1e9b43c2ee63d494e997376b6fa5e2fd6820be6040edd2566c32845b53&
10:44 <+bridge_> <robyt3> @0xdeen This seems to have reverted unrelated changes in `release/build-and-deploy.sh`
12:06 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> this file is autogenerated, fixing that doesn't sound particularly useful to me
12:06 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> because `as` doesn't tell the reader if it's a truncating or a lossless conversion
12:07 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> `u32 as usize` is lossless and never a bug
12:07 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> `usize as u16` is truncating and perhaps a bug
12:07 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> I try to never use `as` for integer casts in Rust, and I'd suggest people to do the same
12:08 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> can you explain what you mean here? 14 bytes for each thing? do you have a link to an explanation?
12:12 <+bridge_> <byfox> There is no link. These are the words of my acquaintance, who has already fixed some bugs in the Rust compiler, and he wants to fix this as well. I will need to check with him how the work on this is progressing.
12:17 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> I also tried using a `Vec`, but it's algorithmically unsatisfying to me
12:18 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> can you ask them to send a short summary? I don't understand what you mean by "whitespace causes 14 bytes"
12:18 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> but if it turns out to be the only thing that works, then I'll guess we'll have to run with it
12:18 <+bridge_> <byfox> This means that 14 bytes of memory are allocated for this, which is a bit too much due to the extra data that is not needed there :)
12:19 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> allocated where? in the compiler? in the executable?
12:19 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> in the runtime of the spawned process?
12:19 <+bridge_> <byfox> Now I'll come up with something based on your messages on this topic.
12:20 <+bridge_> <byfox> There's talk about the compiler, and the fact that when compiling, 14 bytes are allocated for one space, and there could be thousands of them in the code...
12:20 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> (I'm also working on that btw, and you can see my current result in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/12075#issuecomment-4313427944, which is already quite good IMO)
12:21 <+bridge_> <byfox> I saw the result and I really like it.
12:21 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> 14 bytes for one space might not be a problem. how have they determined that it's a problem?
12:21 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the total of libtw2 is 2 MiB of rust files
12:21 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> if it's 14 bytes per byte, then it'll consume 28 MiB. that doesn't sound like a problem in itself
12:22 <+bridge_> <byfox> Overall, I think there is no need to talk about this, it is just an annoying feature of the compiler. :)
12:23 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> features are hard for dependent libraries to use correctly. they theoretically must specify everything they use, but if another library in the dependency tree specifies something they use and the user doesn't they won't notice until the other library removes its feature dependency
12:23 <+bridge_> <byfox> I will ask you for clarification on this point a little later.
12:24 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> > instead of cloning the whole project :\ 
12:24 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> can you say more about this point? I don't understand what changes when you have a single library vs multiple for what you need to do when you depend on it
12:24 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> @byfox thanks for your questions and remarks, they make me think 🙂
12:29 <+bridge_> <byfox> Now, to add the latest version of your library, you need to add it to the project via `{ git = "url" }` or `.gitmodules`, which is an unpleasant thing, your library modules are separated into crates, I will show you an example with the serenity library
12:29 <+bridge_> <byfox> 
12:29 <+bridge_> <byfox> https://github.com/serenity-rs/serenity/blob/current/Cargo.toml#L72
12:29 <+bridge_> <byfox> You could have entered `cargo add libtw2 -F snapshot`
12:30 <+bridge_> <byfox> You could have entered `cargo add libtw2 -F snapshot`,
12:30 <+bridge_> <byfox> And all the necessary libraries would be added automatically, but now you have to register each one separately, which is an inconvenient solution.
12:35 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> Is there any mod named
12:35 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> iLMS?
12:36 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> instagib LMS.
12:40 <+bridge_> <byfox> I think this video will clarify his purpose... He simply wrote to me about `rustc_lexer::TokenKind` and said you'll find it yourself xd
12:40 <+bridge_> <byfox> 
12:40 <+bridge_> <byfox> https://youtu.be/IroPQ150F6c?t=1915
12:48 <+bridge_> <ChillerDragon> sos i am muted on irc
12:50 <+bridge_> <byfox> What did you do again for you were muted again?
13:01 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> so hm...
13:01 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> I did a Instagib LMS
13:09 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> Are you saying that each space in source code results in `rustc_lexer::TokenKind`, which is 14 bytes?
13:10 <+bridge_> <byfox> Right :)
13:11 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> I'm not a rustc developer, but I don't see a variant for a space in the enum, spaces are just skipped
13:11 <+bridge_> <byfox> But not in this compiler :)
13:12 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> wot, weren't you talking about rust library?
13:13 <+bridge_> <byfox> There were two or three topics.
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> This already looks better than 80000ns...
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_libtw2        ... bench:      20,154 ns/iter (+/- 1,886)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_reference     ... bench:      19,373 ns/iter (+/- 2,051)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300m_libtw2       ... bench:      21,075 ns/iter (+/- 1,958)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300m_reference    ... bench:      19,132 ns/iter (+/- 2,318)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_empty_empty_libtw2    ... bench:          42 ns/iter (+/- 4)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_empty_empty_reference ... bench:         269 ns/iter (+/- 20)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test snap_300_libtw2             ... bench:      15,237 ns/iter (+/- 1,439)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test snap_300_reference          ... bench:       5,742 ns/iter (+/- 568)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test snap_empty_libtw2           ... bench:          36 ns/iter (+/- 1)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> test snap_empty_reference        ... bench:          46 ns/iter (+/- 4)
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> 
13:15 <+bridge_> <byfox> It's about the same level, not taking into account snap_300...
13:17 <+bridge_> <byfox> This result is on FxHashMap :)
13:17 <+bridge_> <byfox> This result is on `FxHashMap` :)
13:33 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> nice 🙂 this replicates my results
13:52 <+bridge_> <melon> interesting how libtw2 is ~2.5x slower than reference there, so it looks like the absolute numbers got worse for the delta tests?
13:53 <+bridge_> <melon> ah wait, of course they differ, different machines ._:
13:53 <+bridge_> <melon> interesting how libtw2 is ~2.5x slower than reference there, and it looks like the absolute numbers got worse for the delta tests?
14:07 <+bridge_> <melon> whats the ddnets testing bot repo again
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_libtw2        ... bench:      18,672 ns/iter (+/- 8,337)
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_reference     ... bench:      20,027 ns/iter (+/- 1,100)
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> :)
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_libtw2        ... bench:      18,672 ns/iter (+/- 8,337)
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> test delta_300_300_reference     ... bench:      20,027 ns/iter (+/- 1,100)
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> ```
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> 
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> `items: Vec<RawEntry>,`
14:53 <+bridge_> <byfox> :)
15:05 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> Hello fellow rust enjoyers
15:11 <+bridge_> <pluskz> I guess the one by @pointer31
16:51 <+bridge_> <qetoast> @heinrich5991 some new weird russians abusing mastersrv: 85.198.64.239.xxxx
16:53 <+bridge_> <qetoast> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497611612713123870/image.png?ex=69ee2700&is=69ecd580&hm=31ed0901058db91a41336042c0583024f09c1783382253304f2a2c8a5decff81&
17:00 <+bridge_> <bicker_2504> it is аls faking gamemode type
17:00 <+bridge_> <bicker_2504> it is аlso faking gamemode type
17:01 <+bridge_> <melon> banned, thanks!
17:09 <+bridge_> <qetoast> back: 31.129.100.33.xxxx
17:10 <+bridge_> <0xfaulty> why so may servers from one ip, I remember that we talk about limit amount from one ip :/
17:10 <+bridge_> <qetoast> they're back: 31.129.100.33.xxxx
17:10 <+bridge_> <qetoast> @blaiszephyr
17:10 <+bridge_> <melon> i have slow fingers!
17:10 <+bridge_> <melon> banned
17:11 <+bridge_> <qetoast> ahh you already got them :justatest:
17:11 <+bridge_> <0xfaulty> why so may servers from one ip, I remember that we talk about limit amount from one ip without community :/
17:12 <+bridge_> <0xfaulty> why so may servers from one ip, I remember that we talk about limit amount from one ip (if without community) :/
17:16 <+bridge_> <qetoast> some other russians again: 46.173.27.221.xxxx
17:16 <+bridge_> <melon> yeeees
17:16 <+bridge_> <qetoast> atleast different advertisement
17:22 <+bridge_> <mscgroup.> Hello guys, how are u?
17:22 <+bridge_> <mscgroup.> 3
17:22 <+bridge_> <mscgroup.> 2
17:22 <+bridge_> <mscgroup.> 1
17:22 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> good
17:22 <+bridge_> <mscgroup.> LetS go
17:23 <+bridge_> <qetoast> 155.212.142.73.xxxx
17:23 <+bridge_> <qetoast> now they are calling us pidors melon :(
17:24 <+bridge_> <goder041202> msc???
17:24 <+bridge_> <goder041202> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497619208870301756/image.png?ex=69ee2e13&is=69ecdc93&hm=9fdfcee7219538c00bb46ab397ac3b096543488e020c42ca61857e41f61ab832&
17:24 <+bridge_> <qetoast> 🐴
17:24 <+bridge_> <melon> hot take: kids shouldnt have unrestricted access to the internet
17:29 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> a better idea:
17:30 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> kids -> the person whose actions are like kids.
17:30 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> too hot. I think you can achieve a lot of good stuff by having access to the internet as a kid
17:30 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> this I guess
17:31 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> as we could see there are lots of big kids.
17:31 <+bridge_> <melon> having access, absolutely
17:31 <+bridge_> <melon> unrestricted, meh.
17:31 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> But I wonder why did you metion that
17:32 <+bridge_> <melon> joining the discord server to do a countdown in #developer before spamming the master server, with the name displayed in said servers that are used to spam :p
17:33 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> oh
17:34 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> those messages were deleted?
17:34 <+bridge_> <melon> i pretty much immediatly pressed the big bad red button, yes
17:37 <+bridge_> <qetoast> 45.153.190.137.xxxx
17:37 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
17:37 <+bridge_> <melon> done
17:37 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/genshimaro-gif-26536407
17:37 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> melon rn
17:38 <+bridge_> <melon> i'm "so" close to writing a bash script rn.
17:38 <+bridge_> <melon> xd
17:38 <+bridge_> <melon> and that should mean something, i dont like writing bash scripts!
17:45 <+bridge_> <qetoast> 159.194.234.17.xxxx
17:56 <+bridge_> <reitw> use python, good bash replacement
17:56 <+bridge_> <melon> python needs an interpreter tho xd
17:56 <+bridge_> <reitw> don't u have one
17:57 <+bridge_> <reitw> it's installed by default on 90% of Linux distros
17:57 <+bridge_> <reitw> probably even more
17:57 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> bash also needs an interpreter ^^
17:58 <+bridge_> <reitw> and yes
17:58 <+bridge_> <reitw> was going to say this xd
17:58 <+bridge_> <melon> it.. does?
17:58 <+bridge_> <melon> oh right, the binary -.-
17:58 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> I think what you mean is, shell.
17:58 <+bridge_> <melon> forget what i said xd
17:58 <+bridge_> <reitw> @blaiszephyr bash itself is an interpreter when you run your script
17:58 <+bridge_> <melon> yeah, /bin/bash in that case, i remember now
17:59 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> One of my friends uses zsh instead.
18:00 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> idk if zsh would be better
18:00 <+bridge_> <virtue4> how can i add this tee png to my website like this
18:00 <+bridge_> <virtue4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497628338272075877/image.png?ex=69ee3694&is=69ece514&hm=ce4450309e86eee1348dc34a0c5a565e6da7f7fc59bc1ec836d02534c5afd52e&
18:00 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> I'd use python, at least it's a real programming language
18:00 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> I think so.
18:00 <+bridge_> <melon> isnt zsh just "better bash"? - given its bash-compatible with a bit of interactive QoL
18:00 <+bridge_> <melon> just need to write your scripts with #!/bin/bash for portability
18:00 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> If we need a cross-platform script, then python is the best choice.
18:05 <+bridge_> <learath2> The only thing I hate about using python for scripts is that it is so annoying to invoke programs from python
18:06 <+bridge_> <learath2> I have to think about too much. With bash it's just run the program, done. Redirect whatever is needed
18:06 <+bridge_> <reitw> yeah true
18:06 <+bridge_> <learath2> Maybe this is something I could make. A scripting language that is closer to shell but more a real programming language
18:07 <+bridge_> <reitw> well you have the easy way with os.system but if you need more complex stuff to fetch the output etc..
18:13 <+bridge_> <qetoast> 91.229.90.65.xxxx back again
19:21 <+bridge_> <anthareso> что с серверами сука я щас взорвусь нахуй
19:21 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> $english
19:21 <+bridge_> <DDNet> Hi! Most of us communicate in English. If you’re having trouble with English, use <https://www.deepl.com/en/translator> to help you out.
19:22 <+bridge_> <anthareso> what the fuck is wrong with the servers, I'm about to blow up
19:23 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> whats the issue?
19:24 <+bridge_> <anthareso> lags every 15 seconds
19:25 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> what servers
19:31 <+bridge_> <virtue4> how can i save this tee as png
19:31 <+bridge_> <virtue4> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497651394742583468/image.png?ex=69ee4c0d&is=69ecfa8d&hm=abd74f17ba21d1caecfb01a2cd34890d1c2d51fda3922a83b4b4dbcd86611cae&
19:32 <+bridge_> <virtue4> with colors
19:34 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> well you have your rendered tee right there
19:34 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> simply screenshot
19:34 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> with transparency it's a bit harder ig... Don't we have tee renderers that can produce images?
19:34 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://teeview.meeu.me/
19:35 <+bridge_> <virtue4> how to use this
19:35 <+bridge_> <virtue4> i will take ss and upload here?
19:36 <+bridge_> <teero777> you upload the skin
19:36 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> You can copy a tee's color from ddstats
19:36 <+bridge_> <teero777> and put in the colors
19:36 <+bridge_> <virtue4> okey thanks
19:36 <+bridge_> <teero777> nah not really the website is bad
19:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> you cant paste the integer color value
19:37 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> ok so you'd have to copy the colours from ddstats, paste them into the game, and then read the values from the tee skin menu
19:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> you also cant tell it where to look at
19:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> or what weapons to hold
19:37 <+bridge_> <manikoo> @teero777 @inv41idu53rn4m3 guys would you like to run springlobe 4? in 3
19:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> 3p? hell nah
19:37 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> I'm nobo
19:37 <+bridge_> <teero777> especially with non gores players
19:37 <+bridge_> <louis> There's some other renderers too iirc
19:37 <+bridge_> <manikoo> eh
19:38 <+bridge_> <manikoo> ok get luck
19:38 <+bridge_> <louis> u failing at 2% lil bro
19:38 <+bridge_> <manikoo> shh
19:38 <+bridge_> <manikoo> lil admin
19:40 <+bridge_> <melon> u failing at 2% lil bro
19:42 <+bridge_> <manikoo> melon
19:42 <+bridge_> <manikoo> come 2p with me
19:42 <+bridge_> <manikoo> everyones busy
19:42 <+bridge_> <manikoo> or already playing
19:42 <+bridge_> <melon> already playing
19:42 <+bridge_> <melon> already playing (this is not
19:42 <+bridge_> <manikoo> they would not take me any way
19:42 <+bridge_> <melon> already playing (we're in #developer btw ^^)
19:43 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> then don't take any of them
19:43 <+bridge_> <manikoo> pio
19:43 <+bridge_> <manikoo> come
19:43 <+bridge_> <manikoo> oh
19:43 <+bridge_> <manikoo> ping
19:43 <+bridge_> <manikoo> saddo
19:45 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> i've stopped playing like one or two months
19:46 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> and im also bad :)
19:46 <+bridge_> <manikoo> it doesnt matter bad or good
19:48 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> i found melon secret server
19:48 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> 37.230.162.91:1337
19:52 <+bridge_> <melon> not my server! dont join.
19:53 <+bridge_> <qetoast> "MelonDDnet"
19:53 <+bridge_> <qetoast> https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-cat-funny-gif-2280908438162700469
19:53 <+bridge_> <manikoo> it's some russian server
19:53 <+bridge_> <melon> as in, it may! be an ip-grabber.
20:00 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> oh
20:00 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> when melonnet
20:00 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> id play
20:01 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> april fools next yaear
20:01 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> all servers melon
20:18 <+bridge_> <qetoast> + every skin is a melon
20:36 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> @robyt3 hope u take all these reports seriously finally! i'm not the only one reporting these
20:39 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> and not blame me for "reporting publicly" or "pinging random admin"... when you was the only admin online at that time...
20:40 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> only love <3
20:46 <+bridge_> <manikoo> yeah only love from you fokko
20:55 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> > temporary courage against lifelong courage
20:55 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> this says it all, in your bio
20:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> maybe
20:57 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i like how you act
20:58 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> 🤣 👀
20:59 <+bridge_> <manikoo> :omo:
21:31 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> probably exists. also I remember there being a python library doing something like this
22:54 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> chillerdragon: why did you join and inst rq when asked what ur doing
22:54 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> chillerdragon: why did you join and insta rq when asked what ur doing
22:54 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> fakin Lilly
23:01 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> goofball
23:17 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> oh chiller didnt know you copied my smooth flag hooking
23:19 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> btw you broke lots of features in ddpp by "refactoring" code without understanding it (even your own, or Blue, or any :/)
23:21 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP/blob/5124e5c3c00901e9f8adeab08409727f3153fd84/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L1215-L1216
23:21 <+bridge_> <fokkonaut> lol, why add a feature if it doesnt work at all? xxxxd
23:49 <+bridge_> <aegisub> https://xon.sh/
23:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> "xonsh" xD
23:49 <+bridge_> <aegisub> https://pypi.org/project/sh/
23:49 <+bridge_> <aegisub> no windows support though
23:52 <+bridge_> <bicker_2504> @blaiszephyr 
23:52 <+bridge_> <bicker_2504> `2.56.240.252`
23:52 <+bridge_> <bicker_2504> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1497716913894195350/image.png?ex=69ee8912&is=69ed3792&hm=df8279fb8e0adca20c88111081793819be12255cdf6c2b62c9fb4c05e0511e85&