04:16 <+bridge_> <teero777> how are there teles rendered when the map doesnt even have a tele layer anymore?? xd
04:16 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1482215784653656105/sep-gores.map?ex=69b62485&is=69b4d305&hm=0f8ad8d788f06dc8783e2c409d0aebbe266b48d9d3fef282c3503f2f028e08ce&
04:16 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1482215785332998194/2026-03-14_04-15-29.mp4?ex=69b62485&is=69b4d305&hm=3645b4196a64fb040588871c3b57b5afd85a7079ef35743897add4c75a7c5578&
06:14 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> should saving a map with no changes generate write events?
06:14 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1482245634105933967/image.png?ex=69b64051&is=69b4eed1&hm=56e2ede3020f4765b1027ef31d3c287956096285e1b70504b14367afaed4a590&
06:15 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> seems odd, i understand if there was undo history but this was a fresh open
06:15 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> im trying to only listen to moved_to for sending to a server
06:16 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but for accidental saves with no changes i dont want to trigger reloads
06:16 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (and yes i hit save quite often)
07:30 <+bridge_> <totar> I would say yes
07:32 <+bridge_> <totar> you could have modified the file in another way and now overwrite those modifications
07:32 <+bridge_> <totar> some text editors also work this way, unless they're fancy and update the editor when the file changes externally
07:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> im not sure how i could modify the file in a way that doesnt trigger the dirty flag?
07:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i mean, i guess you may want modified flag to be updated for some reason?
07:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> other than that i cant think of an angle here where its necessary
07:49 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i mean, i guess you may want modified time to be updated for some reason?
07:55 <+bridge_> <totar> the thing you actually want is for the map to not reload when you save it again, which could also be fixed on the server
08:09 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> hm yeah
08:09 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i guess if that doesnt trigger a reload then it's not a problem
08:09 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (i think it does tho)
08:23 <+bridge_> <eryxac> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1482277888832307240/image.png?ex=69b65e5c&is=69b50cdc&hm=8481188d1d2ac082dff208a10d15594ed456927a6250d49b7ee73034766a4912&
08:23 <+bridge_> <eryxac> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1482277889092223017/DDNet_win64-steam_crash_log_2026-03-14_10-17-56_17316_c8c3a7904d076449054b51976c4a56bd382e85ab.RTP?ex=69b65e5c&is=69b50cdc&hm=9bd72ce4bc47c32e8d583834408679bcd2a1dc3b10a7742d21e20b9107a479b9&
08:23 <+bridge_> <eryxac> what i need to fix this
09:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> do map reads not follow symlinks?
09:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> kinda disappointing but a hardlink worked
10:24 <+bridge_> <Assa> take a look at https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/GFX_Troubleshooting most likely a driver issue
10:30 <+bridge_> <Assa> just read some negative steam reviews of ddnet in order to find some bugs or issues 🙂 waste of time
10:32 <+bridge_> <Assa> I think some person was complaining about the "linear lobbies" :kek:
12:18 <+bridge_> <Assa> that was fast 😄
12:21 <+bridge_> <Brokecdx-> Does teehistorian record cross reload?
12:24 <+bridge_> <robyt3> It looks like Teehistorian recording is stopped and restarted on a map reload
12:25 <+bridge_> <Brokecdx-> Okay thank you :pepeheart:
12:36 <+bridge_> <Assa> I shouldn't be so mean about potato PCs, ram is expensive
13:08 <+bridge_> <Assa> that's enough love for ogl 1 for now
15:14 <+bridge_> <qetoast> @essigautomat I just gotta through a const infront then right?
15:14 <+bridge_> <qetoast> @essigautomat I just gotta throw a const infront then right?
15:23 <+bridge_> <Assa> yes ofc 😆
15:23 <+bridge_> <Assa> thanks, missed that 👍
15:28 <+bridge_> <qetoast> :owo:
17:08 <+ChillerDragon> @qxdfox thanks for making chillerbot work :)
18:58 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/5d682733e482950f686663c129adc4b751c8d790/src/game/server/gamemodes/tdm.cpp#L26
18:59 <+ChillerDragon> @matricks watfak klang arschel
18:59 <+ChillerDragon> klant*
19:08 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> @mtrcks
19:22 <+bridge_> <Assa> I wonder if this is the name of a person who commited seppuku
19:25 <+bridge_> <Assa> @chillerdragon.9502 I found out what it means :justatest: this is swedish
19:46 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Sherlock xd
19:47 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I had no doubt it was Swedish. As a German I still read arsch. And am high enough to giggle
19:56 <+bridge_> <Assa> omg I feel so stupid
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa>     float f = 36000000.0f;
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa>     int64_t i1 = llroundf(f * 1000);
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> This already overflows the float
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> this as well
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa>     int64_t i2 = (int64_t)roundf(f * 1000);
19:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
20:09 <+bridge_> <Assa> why are we storing times in floats again? 💀
20:39 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> teehistorian records everything, also cross reloads
21:21 <+bridge_> <Assa> I don't understand this PR at all
21:22 <+bridge_> <Assa> probably some A > B > C > A situation
21:32 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the problem is that `.. > ..`
21:32 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> but other than that, `.. < everything else`
21:33 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the problem is that `.. < ..`
21:34 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the function should evaluate whether `Lhs < Rhs`
21:34 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> so `.. < ..` should return false
21:34 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> but previously, it returned true
21:38 <+bridge_> <Assa> Thanks for the explanation 👍 makes sense for me now
23:08 <+bridge_> <teero777> anyone online im bored
23:09 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> hi
23:09 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> or do you mean ingame?
23:09 <+bridge_> <Assa> currently watching a horror movie while checking github in the meantime 😄
23:10 <+bridge_> <teero777> im looking through old issues
23:10 <+bridge_> <Assa> do you need my gh random issue fetcher?
23:11 <+bridge_> <teero777> ah yea whats the link again
23:11 <+bridge_> <Assa> https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1o6kQVcBscvEhFZ9Ra35QT9hV0nx2-h5o?usp=sharing
23:11 <+bridge_> <teero777> is there an issue open for the voting menu being super bad right now?
23:12 <+bridge_> <Assa> do you mean queued votes?
23:12 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9604 ?
23:13 <+bridge_> <teero777> yea thanks
23:13 <+bridge_> <teero777> the whole game is still more modded teeworlds instead of an actual game
23:14 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> yep
23:45 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @robyt3: did I ever ask you where you live? I smh realized I don’t know it
23:48 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Germany
23:49 <+bridge_> <teero777> i have written down ~2 pages of improvements but it's mostly for how i would redo the entire game if i had the money. And some of the things are specific to Gores, i don't like the ddrace gamemode really. so they won't be any useful right now.
23:49 <+bridge_> <teero777> 
23:49 <+bridge_> <teero777> anyway where do the servers currently get the voting menus from?
23:50 <+bridge_> <Assa> Who would have guess with your lastname ...
23:50 <+bridge_> <robyt3> The vote menus for DDNet are generated by some script :pepeW:
23:50 <+bridge_> <teero777> :kek:
23:50 <+bridge_> <Assa> @robyt3 NRW? 😄
23:51 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Or I guess they are autogenerated based on the maps in the database
23:51 <+bridge_> <robyt3> But the server has to clear and send the current list of votes when you switch the directory
23:52 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Better voting menu would allow options to be in expandable groups
23:53 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://pastebin.com/AUAHuxN8