00:00 <+bridge_> <totar> even though we have NUM_DUMMIES we assume 2 in all places
00:00 <+bridge_> <totar> maybe AI could fix that
00:01 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Yeah. That was just a quick idea. More cleanly you'd have to change all getters for snapshots, times etc. to return different values while a demo is playing.
00:02 <+bridge_> <totar> we take a while to generate the graphics textures and stuff from the map itself tho
00:02 <+bridge_> <totar> you'd need to store both
00:03 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Hmm, true, you'd have to duplicate large parts of the gameclient after all. Or it would only work if the demo is using the same map.
01:42 <+bridge_> <melon> holy recommendation
01:42 <+bridge_> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1480727523078705302/image.png?ex=69b0ba78&is=69af68f8&hm=a072ef26e991967b2b2edd4bad8595fbfd63481be6fb1c91ca32d139c8be8e04&
03:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> @essigautomat amended my last commit with my current changes
06:33 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 what is this rather random `SetStaticsize` in server.cpp? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/807c92f1a4b23784bff74583b1cb208d0c53b052
06:34 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 what is this rather random `SetStaticsize` in server.cpp? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/807c92f1a4b23784bff74583b1cb208d0c53b052#diff-65908fcaf323f624c0a8e584e92664d0d49640bb139729c6e22a14a5b2170c3fR865-R866
06:34 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 what is this rather random `SetStaticsize` in server.cpp? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/807c92f1a4b23784bff74583b1cb208d0c53b052#diff-65908fcaf323f624c0a8e584e92664d0d49640bb139729c6e22a14a5b2170c3fR865-R866
06:35 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> it seems very wrong ^^
06:35 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the second parameter of `SetStaticsize` isn't a boolean, but a size
06:35 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> (and a multiple of 4)
08:04 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Xd I know
08:04 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I think I wrote the exact same thing here already @heinrich5991 :D
09:02 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> I think you can add remote locally
09:14 <+bridge_> <fushi_gg> I just made a repo and added the fork to upstream, isn't a real fork so that's annoying but better than nothing
09:23 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> chillerdragon: after having written these messages, I thought that I had written them before in this channel. but maybe that was you
09:23 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> discord's search function didn't yield any result for `SetStaticsize`
10:26 <+bridge_> <chairn> > You’ve got a 947 open issues, which is just a polite way of saying your project is held together by duct tape and hope.
10:26 <+bridge_> <chairn> > 
10:26 <+bridge_> <chairn> > The file tree is a graveyard of abandoned tools, scripts, and half-baked integrations that nobody will ever use.
10:26 <+bridge_> <chairn> right in the heart 😄
10:31 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> open issue count is not really a measure of quality
10:31 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> not sure what they mean with "integrations"
10:31 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> the whole thing seems rather generic, but I guess that's to be expected
11:00 <+bridge_> <totar> I don't think you're supposed to take it seriously
11:22 <+bridge_> <learath2> Uuf, idk, been so long
11:22 <+bridge_> <learath2> Let me think about it a little, it is likely wrong though
11:31 <+bridge_> <Assa> ^ turned on the debugger :3
11:31 <+bridge_> <learath2> Yeah idk, it makes no sense at all, maybe it was a ternary at some point?
11:34 <+bridge_> <learath2> I'll check timakro's original sixup code, maybe that will reveal my intentions 😛
12:05 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> but it doesn't really hit hard for me if I can't take it seriously ^^
12:06 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> insults only work if they fit ^^
12:12 <+bridge_> <totar> It told me my perfectly functional svg was broken so right off the bat, idk how it would even know if it works or not
12:12 <+bridge_> <Assa> found a client crasher server
12:12 <+bridge_> <Assa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1480886166625452145/Unbenannt.png?ex=69b14e37&is=69affcb7&hm=8eba788700af24117829fa53c7f89109e9e11f793c177419b0499a70e12578dc&
12:14 <+bridge_> <totar> It told me my perfectly functional svg was broken right off the bat, idk how it would even know if it works or not
12:15 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> intentional or not?
12:18 <+bridge_> <Assa> my own, unintentional but kinda expected
12:19 <+bridge_> <Assa> like I now know what the server should send in order to crash the client
12:19 <+bridge_> <totar> I think its known you can do this with malformed maps
12:20 <+bridge_> <Assa> the map isn't malformed, but were running out of snap ids
12:20 <+bridge_> <totar> I mean crash the client
12:22 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> ah. yes, unfortunately, there are plenty of ways to crash the client as the server
12:30 <+bridge_> <Assa> @heinrich5991 I believe as expert in this you have a strong opinion about this
13:17 <+bridge_> <nonameteams> where in ddnet++ find the modification of this scorbar? I want it to show lvl here but I can't find this scorbar
13:17 <+bridge_> <nonameteams> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1480902432891342858/image.png?ex=69b15d5d&is=69b00bdd&hm=1f5b3a8e6a1fdf388b64f3a89af19f4655f6f5e50cab071a88be4922b45ea950&
13:24 <+bridge_> <Assa> ddnet++, is this a client or server mod? This server is sending times and you can't customize this much for default clients. You can either show times or a score (not both, and no level column)
13:25 <+bridge_> <nonameteams> i need score and score its level (server)
13:26 <+bridge_> <ecodu> server mod
13:26 <+bridge_> <Assa> do you write a mod for your server? If yes you need to modify ddnet.cpp
13:27 <+bridge_> <Assa> make sure [this](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/4ae9ce874b8961ee1be4d54359997474a80db648/src/game/server/gamemodes/ddnet.cpp#L168) returns CFinishTime::UNSET
13:27 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
13:27 <+bridge_> <Assa> AND
13:29 <+bridge_> <Assa> don't send the TIMESCORE flag: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/4ae9ce874b8961ee1be4d54359997474a80db648/src/game/server/gamecontroller.cpp#L644
13:30 <+bridge_> <Assa> ideally you should write your own gamemode and add it to src/game/server/gamemodes
13:32 <+bridge_> <nonameteams> i use DDNetPP by ChillerDragon
13:33 <+bridge_> <Assa> DDNetPvP should also do this
13:33 <+bridge_> <Assa> I mean should allow you to configure this
13:35 <+bridge_> <Assa> summon @chillerdragon
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> make sure [this](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/4ae9ce874b8961ee1be4d54359997474a80db648/src/game/server/gamemodes/ddnet.cpp#L168) returns CFinishTime::Unset()
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> AND
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> make sure [this](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/4ae9ce874b8961ee1be4d54359997474a80db648/src/game/server/gamemodes/ddnet.cpp#L168) returns CFinishTime::Unset()
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
13:41 <+bridge_> <Assa> AND
13:50 <+bridge_> <nonameteams> wery thx
14:05 <+bridge_> <learath2> After looking at it more, I think it makes 0 sense, idk what I was even trying to do, perhaps forgot it there while debugging sth? Is there a special effect of it being 0? Perhaps I was trying to make sure events from sixup don't end up in six clients in a convoluted way?
14:24 <+bridge_> <Assa> weirdest edge case bug
14:43 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> That seemed to have been talked last year. :3
14:44 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> Yeah, then I remembered that someone incorrectly clear those messages.
14:46 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> And
14:46 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> I remembered I said that
14:47 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> those codes are wrong but they works
14:48 <+bridge_> <Assa> can anybody explain to me how `        NetIntRange("m_Jumped", 0, 3),` m_Jumped works?
14:48 <+bridge_> <Assa> it's doing some bit magic
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> nvmd:
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> // Special jump cases:
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == -1: A tee may only make one ground jump. Second jumped bit is always set
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == 0: A tee may not make a jump. Second jumped bit is always set
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == 1: A tee may do either a ground jump or an air jump. Second jumped bit is set after the first jump
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa>         // The second jumped bit can be overridden by special tiles so that the tee can nevertheless jump.
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> 
14:49 <+bridge_> <Assa> ```
14:49 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> in `CSnapshotDelta::CreateDelta`
14:49 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>         bool IncludeSize = pCurItem->Type() >= MAX_NETOBJSIZES || !m_aItemSizes[pCurItem->Type()];
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> and
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> void CSnapshotDelta::SetStaticsize(int ItemType, int Size)`
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> {
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     if(ItemType < 0 || ItemType >= MAX_NETOBJSIZES)
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>         return;
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     m_aItemSizes[ItemType] = Size;
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> }
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:50 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> But that's `m_Jumps`, not `m_Jumped`
14:51 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> `m_Jumped & 1` could know if the player is pressing the key to jump.
14:53 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> I think it's here
14:53 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     // handle jumping
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     // 1 bit = to keep track if a jump has been made on this input (player is holding space bar)
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     // 2 bit = to track if all air-jumps have been used up (tee gets dark feet)
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     if(Grounded)
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     {
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>         m_Jumped &= ~2;
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>         m_JumpedTotal = 0;
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237>     }
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> ```
14:54 <+bridge_> <bamcane_tee237> But why we code the `(player is hoding space bar)`, is it meaningless?
14:56 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> at least could predict those edge jumps
15:36 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @nonameteams  this is a known issue in ddnet++ I have been stalling to work on it since a month xd https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP/issues/509
15:36 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> i fixed it now for you :3
15:36 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> try pulling and recompiling the new ddnet++ version that dropped 10 seconds ago and it should be fixed
15:41 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> oh and @nonameteams  in case you did not find the config yet what you want in your settings is `sv_display_score level`
15:42 <+bridge_> <Assa> nice chiller :deen_star:
16:23 <+bridge_> <Assa> job is stuck since 4 hours, had to cancel it: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/actions/runs/22900352294/job/66445042390?pr=11910
18:10 <+bridge_> <Assa> anyone an idea where I find the unpredicted tuning values for this issue? <https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/11612#issuecomment-4033026496>
18:47 <+bridge_> <Assa> should we even draw hook collision lines of players in other teams 😮
18:54 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Only if other teams are shown
21:12 <+bridge_> <Assa> every time I open a PR with the github app it now crashes
21:26 <+bridge_> <melon> Same
21:51 <+bridge_> <robyt3> How do GitHub caches work? Shouldn't the key make sure that we don't duplicate caches :thonk:
21:51 <+bridge_> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1481031742897918147/image.png?ex=69b1d5cb&is=69b0844b&hm=c48d48b09d8be0b4bc58f85617c822f30910ccd8db470fa19fd183e692a1d32f&
21:51 <+bridge_> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1481031743241846835/image.png?ex=69b1d5cb&is=69b0844b&hm=6166bdedd14d1edb89786b0c6fc0d9fd71f4384e835c530705e303a627b371f5&
21:55 <+bridge_> <mavl5981> Hey everyone! I'm really looking forward to playing DDNet on iOS. Is there currently any way to do this? Maybe an experimental IPA, a TestFlight link, or a guide on how to compile it for iPhone myself? I know there were some attempts before, so I'm curious if any of them are still functional.
21:55 <+bridge_> <mavl5981> @deen, are there any updates on the iOS client? I'd love to help with testing if there's an ongoing project.
21:56 <+bridge_> <kebscs> the project is open source and we don't have a developer that is interested in ios so there's no support for it
21:56 <+bridge_> <kebscs> as far as i know
21:58 <+bridge_> <mavl5981> Is there a bounty or a donation goal to attract an iOS developer?
21:58 <+bridge_> <kebscs> no, everything is free work
21:58 <+bridge_> <kebscs> and theres just bunch of us currently
21:59 <+bridge_> <kebscs> i would say 10 max
21:59 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Looks like GitHub caches make no sense all at. They are apparently scoped to the branch, so each cache can only be reused by the same branch... https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/27059
22:01 <+bridge_> <mavl5981> Are there really no other ways to play on iOS? Maybe via a browser or some unofficial web-port
22:01 <+bridge_> <robyt3> The need to own Apple devices and to pay for the development license has stopped me from trying to port it to iOS
22:03 <+bridge_> <robyt3> While it's technically possible to play the game in a browser, connecting to most servers doesn't work. The web version likely also doesn't work properly with touch controls.
22:03 <+bridge_> <mavl5981> I see. That makes total sense, Apple's barriers are indeed annoying for open-source projects. Thanks for the explanation and for all the work you do on DDNet!
22:35 <+bridge_> <0xdeen> I don‘t have time, sorry
23:12 <+bridge_> <alw5> can someone unassign tater for #9845
23:12 <+bridge_> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9845
23:59 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i think someone is interested, i cant remember who it was
23:59 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> they just told me a couple days ago they might work on it