00:21 <+bridge_> <avolicious> What features do you offer?
00:37 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 40 как минимум
00:37 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 40 at least
00:37 <+bridge_> <avolicious> What, not how many 😄
00:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We try to keep things under wraps until release, but all I can say now is:
00:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> fully redesigned GUI
00:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 60+ new visual and support features for Kog and Race
00:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> clan system and more
00:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> voice chat
00:42 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> There are still many interesting and unique features planned.
00:46 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> @avolicious
00:47 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Is it a closed source client?
00:48 <+bridge_> <avolicious> What are visual support features? Is it something considered towards cheating?
00:57 <+bridge_> <alw5> why is it a closed source
01:06 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> The source will be closed to ordinary people, but it will be accessible to the administration (you).
01:27 <+bridge_> <pluskz> new client?
01:54 <+bridge_> <sheux> hello, i have a problem with the vpn, i din´t active the vpn, but can´t connet to ddnet servers.
01:55 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Maybe you use zaprot?
01:55 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Maybe you use zapret?
01:59 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> @sheux
02:06 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Before the release, we will contact the kog and ddrace administration to obtain a verified status. If any functions are considered cheating, we will remove them.
02:59 <+bridge_> <alw5> WHY
03:06 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> we don't want to let the pastors graze
03:08 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> "we don't want to let the pastors graze":huh:
03:09 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> auto translator
03:09 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I meant We don’t want to let pasters paste
03:17 <+bridge_> <alw5> ??? is it a cheat clien
03:17 <+bridge_> <alw5> ??? is it a cheat client
03:17 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466618370123108566/image.png?ex=697d664b&is=697c14cb&hm=b13e8e13fa5cf5db9bcc5757b1795f438a408f63ea4ef78cf1a222c3016f81a5&
03:18 <+bridge_> <alw5> so why do u care if someone pastes ur feature
03:18 <+bridge_> <alw5> supposed to be community game
03:18 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Even here they write about cheats
03:18 <+bridge_> <alw5> yea because if it was a cheat i understand not allowing people paste
03:20 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Our argument is that we spend a HUGE amount of time implementing features, and we don’t want them to end up in other clients, we’re kind of justifying the name
03:20 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Our argument is that we spend a HUGE amount of time implementing features, and we don’t want them to end up in other clients, we want to justify the client name.
03:21 <+bridge_> <alw5> use a license then?
03:22 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> It’s simpler to just not release the source. I don’t see a problem with giving it to you as the administration, but when it comes to regular users, we’re not sure
03:22 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> It’s easier to just keep the source private. I don’t mind sharing it with you as admins, but we’re unsure about giving it to regular people.
03:47 <+bridge_> <alw5> well ur going to use git anyways so just make it a public repo
04:04 <+bridge_> <gorp> why? if it isn't a cheat client you should open source it
04:05 <+bridge_> <gorp> being afraid of other people using client features is an admission of wanting control and power over your users
04:05 <+bridge_> <gorp> not a great look imo
04:06 <+bridge_> <gorp> if you have an antibot module or otherwise sensitive code then it makes sense
04:08 <+bridge_> <gorp> this is bad because then you have to keep pestering us to audit changes for every release. we can't just trust a source-available client and expect future versions to automatically be okay
04:09 <+bridge_> <gorp> so it's just easier if anyone can audit it
05:57 <+bridge_> <vappy19> Im good for finding bugs 😎 call me babe 🤙
08:00 <+bridge_> <remakepower> lol
08:00 <+bridge_> <remakepower> closed-source client
08:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> dont get me wrong ppl can have reasons for closed-source
08:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but when ur reason is "i worked so hawd and i dont want ppl to steal" its kinda soy
08:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> maybe my opinion sux tho
08:03 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I never mind if something is closed-source.
08:04 <+bridge_> <remakepower> But I hate something that was under FOSS license at first, but the owner switched the license to a custom license   later.
08:05 <+bridge_> <remakepower> e.g. LGPL -> Polyform Shield License
08:07 <+bridge_> <remakepower> In other words, it was converted from open-source to source-available
08:07 <+bridge_> <remakepower> :frozen:
09:21 <+bridge_> <Assa> Why is meeting planning so hard ;_; We meet every 2 weeks, except if we doesn't, and today 1 hour earlier, and in 6 weeks 1 hour later, and we sacrifice the goats on full moon
10:12 <+bridge_> <alw5> why does putting my margin to 10 set my ping to 28 and when i have 20 margin my ping is 18
10:13 <+bridge_> <alw5> i know only prediction time matters but why does it do that
10:25 <+bridge_> <totar> isnt this impossible? unless they had contributors sign a CLA which said they could do this?
10:26 <+bridge_> <efetee.> helo tater , do u know about dnsbl
10:26 <+bridge_> <totar> uh
10:26 <+bridge_> <efetee.> i accept it as a yes
10:28 <+bridge_> <efetee.> so do i write sv_dnsbl_host "dns.proxycheck.io" and write my api key to sv_dnsbl_key or write both into sv_dnsbl_host "(api key).dns.proxycheck.io"
10:30 <+bridge_> <totar> I've never used dnsbl someone else might answer your question
10:30 <+bridge_> <efetee.> oke
10:31 <+bridge_> <alw5> sv_dnsbl_key    Optional Authentication Key for the specified DNSBL provider
10:31 <+bridge_> <alw5> sv_dnsbl_host    Hostname of DNSBL provider to use for IP Verification
10:31 <+bridge_> <alw5> proably first one
10:31 <+bridge_> <alw5> if it doesnt work then do other way i guess
10:35 <+bridge_> <efetee.> well i tried all of them and still doesnt work , i guess problem is my dnsbl provider , is there any provider for dnsbl
10:35 <+bridge_> <efetee.> what ddnet use for dnsbl
10:36 <+bridge_> <alw5> pretty sure it should be private so its not easier to bypass
10:52 <+bridge_> <remakepower> So they did.
12:06 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @totar: when respond to ancient GitHub DMs
12:07 <+bridge_> <totar> I don't get notif unless you ping me
12:17 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> \#12
12:17 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @totar: ^
12:46 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> that doesn't work unless they had "LGPL + we own all the work" before
12:47 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> so it wasn't LGPL before
12:47 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> it was LGPL plus some special exceptions for themselves
12:47 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> use (L/A)GPL, and this won't happen
12:47 <+bridge_> <remakepower> But what I said has happened in the Minecraft mod community 😄
12:48 <+bridge_> <Assa> Then just sue Microsoft (which also happened in Minecraft)
12:49 <+bridge_> <remakepower> Lol
12:49 <+bridge_> <remakepower> https://github.com/CaffeineMC/sodium/issues/2400
12:50 <+bridge_> <aegisub> are you not free to change a project's license to anything you want provided you're the only author?
12:50 <+bridge_> <aegisub> or get permission from all other contributors, which seems to have happened here
12:50 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes, but I'm assuming there were contributors
12:51 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> ah
12:53 <+bridge_> <Assa> Just get permission from all ddnet contributors :greenthing:
12:53 <+bridge_> <remakepower> lol
12:55 <+bridge_> <remakepower> How could we contact with someone who has deleted all of their accounts on the Internet?
12:55 <+bridge_> <remakepower> And get their permissions
12:55 <+bridge_> <remakepower> :3
12:56 <+bridge_> <Assa> Ask them in person, let them sign a letter
12:56 <+bridge_> <Assa> idk what you'd do if this person died
12:57 <+bridge_> <remakepower> But how could you know who they are offline.
12:57 <+bridge_> <remakepower> :thonk:
12:57 <+bridge_> <totar> wait 70 years :kek:
12:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> You could just risk it, if they want to sue they'd have to proof it
12:59 <+bridge_> <Assa> And you can claim the person was uncontactable
12:59 <+bridge_> <Assa> we all pretend that licenses are enforced
13:00 <+bridge_> <totar> if you have no children or relative and write no will then a magic legal entity called your "estate" owns the copyright for the next 70 years
13:00 <+bridge_> <totar> if you have no children or relatives and write no will then a magic legal entity called your "estate" owns the copyright for the next 70 years
13:00 <+bridge_> <totar> in the US at least
13:01 <+bridge_> <totar> unless they write in their will that it becomes public domain then you can't use it for 70 years
13:01 <+bridge_> <Assa> in germany I think the goverment would then own it :kek:
13:01 <+bridge_> <totar> yeah that's how it works
13:02 <+bridge_> <Assa> btw you can also apply mixxed licenses ...
13:02 <+bridge_> <Assa> like make all new code run under a new license
13:03 <+bridge_> <Assa> ppl could still fork the old code
13:03 <+bridge_> <remakepower> The copyright will be retained for 50 years after the owner's death
13:03 <+bridge_> <remakepower> (In China)
13:03 <+bridge_> <totar> I wonder when the first GPL licenced code will become public domain
13:03 <+bridge_> <totar> eventually linux kernel will be public domain
13:03 <+bridge_> <totar> not in our lifetimes
13:04 <+bridge_> <remakepower> Yeah
13:05 <+bridge_> <remakepower> huh
13:05 <+bridge_> <remakepower> wait a minute
13:06 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I think linux kernel won't be public domain.
13:11 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> first release was 1991, so the first linux kernel will be in public domain in 2061, according to US law
13:15 <+bridge_> <melon> wouldnt it be time of death of Linus + 70 years?
13:16 <+bridge_> <melon> wouldnt it be date of death of Linus + 70 years?
13:36 <+bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466774032035872838/aL6twDw.png?ex=697df744&is=697ca5c4&hm=f97bd3f64bd619682a971672e38324b87f31379411fd1ad76b457872c7e6dc68&
13:38 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> yea probably
14:08 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Well, if most of you are for open source, we are generally ready to go along with it. I'll discuss this with the other developers later.
14:09 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Well, I generally understand your position.
14:09 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Let’s kill Linus!
14:10 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> torvalds?
14:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Wait can I say that on discord?
14:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Yes
14:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> To improve openness
14:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I am freedomfighter
14:11 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> But for example, there is a cat client, and as its developer told me, only the administration has the source code, just like we wanted
14:12 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> But for example, there is a koshka client, and as its developer told me, only the administration has the source code, just like we wanted
14:12 <+bridge_> <remakepower> No I did not mean your client. 😄
14:12 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> .
14:15 <+bridge_> <aegisub> in minecraft, right?
14:15 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> By the way, why do Chillerdragon and Gorp write through bots?
14:15 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> :huh:
14:16 <+bridge_> <aegisub> https://xkcd.com/1782/
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I saw a player with koshka client on my server op
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I saw a player with koshka client on my server oO
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Cute furry client ngl
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> https://youtube.com/shorts/3lh50QD7su0
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Like 8 years ago I wanted to do a weekly Teeworlds news series and at the end I wanted to do a client recommendation of the week
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Back then that made no sense at all
14:34 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> But these days we have new clients popping faster than js runtimes
14:35 <+bridge_> <remakepower> lmao
14:35 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I have a same idea of weekly Teeworlds news series, but in the end, I did it yearly :3
14:36 <+bridge_> <remakepower> it's still named weekly Teeworlds news though.
14:40 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Chillerdragon, would you give me an interview?
15:01 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Sure
15:01 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @remakepower: nice good job for actually doing it
15:02 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> But nobody can beat the daily dune
15:02 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> He is a beast
16:09 <+bridge_> <Assa> @robyt3 connecting players are counted towards the community number - idk if this is a bug or intended
16:14 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We're going to give you access to GitHub.
17:28 <+bridge_> <alw5> just make the repo public lol
17:39 <+bridge_> <I am stupid> i have on my local sever custom vote
17:39 <+bridge_> <I am stupid> if i change directory use vote i lost from vote list my custom vote
17:39 <+bridge_> <I am stupid> how add custom vote every time
17:39 <+bridge_> <I am stupid> in autoexec i wrote custom vote
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> "Well, because he kind of put a lot of effort into it, thinking the code would be closed. If it were open, he probably wouldn’t have put that much effort into it"
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> "well, even if it’s open
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> so what?"
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> "They’ll steal the source code and then pass it off as their own client with features that could even become more popular than ours"
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466838194480873524/image.png?ex=697e3306&is=697ce186&hm=e556a3e9296ce896f88249f86d0cabf04d131343adc7083d18b020fdb18dacbb&
17:51 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> :emodziidk:
17:54 <+bridge_> <alw5> ur acting like tclient, eclient, rushie client etc hasnt put alot of effort into their clients either
17:55 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I'm not saying they're not making an effort, but in comparison, our client will be far ahead in terms of functionality.
17:56 <+bridge_> <alw5> and are you going to take features from other clients?
17:57 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> 5-10 percent
17:57 <+bridge_> <alw5> isnt that  hypocritical
17:57 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Personally, I'm not against it
17:57 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Noxi, I don't mind
17:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Noxy, I don't mind
17:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Noxy, don't mind
17:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> gdgkdk
17:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> sec
17:58 <+bridge_> <alw5> so ur going to take features from other clients but you dont want people taking ur features
17:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Noxy, not against it
17:59 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> The second developer and I are not against open source, but the third one is against it for now.
18:00 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> This is my dialogue with the fact that I don't mind
18:00 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Here's a dialogue with the second developer
18:10 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Write me a private message, let me just show you what we'll have in the client
18:10 <+bridge_> <melon> you guys seem passionate about it, i respect it
18:10 <+bridge_> <melon> 
18:10 <+bridge_> <melon> but i dont quite understand what this has to do with DDNet :p
18:10 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> ??
18:11 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We are discussing the fact that the code in our ddnet client is closed.
18:18 <+bridge_> <manikoo> whats the nickname of third one
18:18 <+bridge_> <manikoo> ill rape
18:18 <+bridge_> <melon> make it closed source or not, your code, your choice - still not DDNet related
18:18 <+bridge_> <melon> it seems like you're simply trying to advertise your new Client and defend the fact you won't open-source it. none of these things belong in here IMO.
18:18 <+bridge_> <melon> @manikoo pls dont say this stuff.
18:19 <+bridge_> <manikoo> cheat client*
18:19 <+bridge_> <alw5> @manikoo ????????
18:19 <+bridge_> <manikoo> ok sorry
18:19 <+bridge_> <alw5> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466845226193780737/Discord_ZKl5kUUqJK.png?ex=697e3992&is=697ce812&hm=0dcd41b1316a9fd49459527b01b26036dc6fbcd48a0bb1d954fea5027d307230&
18:19 <+bridge_> <alw5> BestClient(NOT A CHEAT)
18:19 <+bridge_> <manikoo> NOT A CHEAT makes me think its cheat
18:19 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i bet this third dev is cheater
18:19 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We've just been fucked over and over again.
18:19 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> questions about cheats
18:20 <+bridge_> <manikoo> because hey look at this client: ddnet.org/downloads
18:20 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We're just tired of questions about cheats.
18:21 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Can I not answer? It's just that he's known here and I don't want to say anything bad about him without his knowledge.
18:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> "known"
18:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> cheater :Pepe_Hmmm:
18:28 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466847604699828277/image.png?ex=697e3bc9&is=697cea49&hm=29da5816f019690d90751234489fc381bc2c500c626fe9b364bfc532dd320e91&
18:28 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> on this server, many people know him
18:29 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> and I don't want to put him in a bad light here
18:29 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> GJDGJSDGJKLD
18:29 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> "bad light"
18:29 <+bridge_> <melon> for developing the best client that has ever existed?
18:29 <+bridge_> <melon> 
18:29 <+bridge_> <melon> anyway, can we.. stop
18:29 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I don’t want to portray him negatively.
18:29 <+bridge_> <manikoo> what bad are you doing? saying the nickname is not bad
18:32 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> In the sense that right now he’s the only one against opening the code.
18:32 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> and this is what this whole dispute is about
20:04 <+bridge_> <robyt3> It counts the unfiltered number of clients, which is intended. The filters shouldn't affect it, I think that's confusing.
21:40 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> because i would rather not be on discord all the time + i dont have it installed on my phone
21:40 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i just added a matrix bridge to my server too xd
21:41 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> really? because I'm not an "admin" as you say
21:42 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i rly doubt any admin wants a new job of personally reviewing your code, if you want it "approved" on DDNet then open-source it.
21:46 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i see those guys pretty clownish
21:46 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> So what’s the difference then whether the code is open only to the administration or to everyone? Either way, it can still be viewed, since the approval status is given by the administration anyway
21:46 <+bridge_> <manikoo> they are acting like defending nuke codes
21:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> you're probably not going to get an admin reviewing your whole code, you're making your client seem important before it can be verifiably worth anyone's time. im not trying to be rude im just saying that it should be no admin's job
21:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> and no, that is a naive way of viewing client acceptance. admins are not the only people to discover cheat clients. we hear about them from other users
21:48 <+bridge_> <manikoo> ⬆️
21:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> via reports, in game, other channels probably
21:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> you could get an admin on board, to personally review your code, takes one @
21:49 <+bridge_> <manikoo> 10
21:49 <+bridge_> <manikoo> @
21:49 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but im just saying ur chances are low since you havent even shown any screenshots, videos, nothing
21:49 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> just vague "numbers" of features
21:49 <+bridge_> <manikoo> it would be nice to show everything on github page
21:49 <+bridge_> <manikoo> with opened source
21:49 <+bridge_> <manikoo> :greenthing:
21:50 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> easier for 40+ people to check someone's code, probably 1 person per file is done in some minutes
21:50 <+bridge_> <manikoo> it not like you are going to sell this client so why not
21:51 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i understand voldermort client, yeah they have to be closed
21:55 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Look, even if we ignore the fact that people might use our sources in their own clients, most people want to see the source code for trust and to make sure there are no cheats. If we give access to the administration and they say that the client has been checked and there are no cheats, viruses, etc., why can’t that be considered a fact of trust and absence of cheats? The whole debate revolves around openness for ordinary people
21:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> admins have nothing to do with your client
21:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> its a game made by communnity
21:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> its a game made by community
21:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> not admins
21:57 <+bridge_> <manikoo> forget a word "admin"
21:57 <+bridge_> <manikoo> dont use it here
21:57 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i dont think you understand what im saying
21:57 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> admins are busy people with lives and those that might be willing to check your code are probably very few
21:58 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> even if they check it a single time, if you make one update to your code, gg this is now a hired position, admins having to check every release
21:58 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> since you dont open the code
21:58 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I mean that when the client is finished, we’ll go to the administration of ddrace to avoid people getting banned for using our client
21:58 <+bridge_> <manikoo> so open sourse
21:58 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> if you open the code anyone can check it at any time for any release
21:58 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> manikoo pls
21:59 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Now, I understand your position.
21:59 <+bridge_> <manikoo> manikoo is telling truth in right and straight way
21:59 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> there is no way any admin is going to say "yes I sign up to be Roflik's bitch and personally check his code every time he pushes to github.com"
21:59 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> it will not happen
22:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> we dont even know if ur client is worth worrying about, you posted no screenshots or videos
22:00 <+bridge_> <manikoo> basically no one cares about your client and its your problem so open code and be gud
22:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> I never said that
22:01 <+bridge_> <manikoo> have a good night
22:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> manikoo you're really not helping
22:01 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I suggest we just leave this dispute and discuss all these issues after the release.
22:01 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> :emodziidk:
22:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> If you post screenshots and videos it will help
22:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> maybe an admin is interested
22:02 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> If you want, I can tell you in a private message what we will have in the client.
22:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> that doesn't solve anything, just post about it here
22:02 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I'm not just suggesting that you see it for yourself.
22:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> no one is going to steal your idea without posting code xD
22:02 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> not from the standpoint of inspections
22:02 <+bridge_> <manikoo> bro why so secret 😭 😭 😭
22:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i rq this topic, you're not really listening to me
22:03 <+bridge_> <manikoo> his messages are like ragebait idk
22:03 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> No, he means perfectly well, I'm just not understood and I tried and it's fine
22:03 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> stop trying to make drama idk what you're doing man
22:04 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i don't understand this privacy
22:04 <+bridge_> <manikoo> open ot
22:04 <+bridge_> <manikoo> open it
22:04 <+bridge_> <manikoo> as you are on the beach
22:04 <+bridge_> <manikoo> and have big
22:04 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> Maybe he just doesn't understand I'm not an admin
22:04 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> idk
22:04 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but still i give up gg
22:05 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We don't even reveal the client's name so it doesn't get stolen :emodziidk:
22:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> for what???
22:05 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> so that it doesn't get stolen
22:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> you will sell this client?
22:05 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We'll make a patent for the name soon
22:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> its a trademark??
22:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> BRO
22:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> wtf
22:06 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466902338181791854/olhz47233tf18w32ku7u9k3g0zeakeay.png?ex=697e6ec3&is=697d1d43&hm=2570c3c212b682e5f2016300dd64df7603a3800d28387b56012cfb2db158ff42&
22:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> get it off my eyes
22:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> circus
22:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> open cope and be free
22:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> open code and be free
22:07 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> You just spoke for ragebyte, so I decided like
22:07 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> You just spoke for ragebite, so I decided like
22:07 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> :emodziidk:
22:07 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> auto translator
22:07 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> a second
22:08 <+bridge_> <manikoo> is your client that popular so you have to keep everything in secret??
22:08 <+bridge_> <manikoo> bro even t client is open source
22:08 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> You were talking about ragebite, so I decided like
22:08 <+bridge_> <manikoo> thousands of people are using it
22:09 <+bridge_> <manikoo> and tater is good with thing that someone is copy pasting features
22:09 <+bridge_> <manikoo> it wont make their client better and nore popular
22:10 <+bridge_> <manikoo> its ok you are overpricing your work as a developer
22:10 <+bridge_> <manikoo> but
22:10 <+bridge_> <manikoo> take it easy
22:10 <+bridge_> <manikoo> you wont live long here if you are hiden
22:10 <+bridge_> <manikoo> without support from other people
22:11 <+bridge_> <manikoo> omagad im still
22:11 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> You’re talking about taking functions from Tater, but you don’t even know what we have.
22:11 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i don't care, any non default client features are shit and its my point
22:12 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i don't need giga cool features to play this game
22:12 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i use asd, space and my mouse
22:12 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> If it will stop the conversation, send me an archive of the source code in DMs and I'll look through it
22:12 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> just this one time, then im not reading any of it again
22:13 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> .
22:13 <+bridge_> <manikoo> you are being clown hiding it from us
22:13 <+bridge_> <manikoo> see gorp is open to look
22:13 <+bridge_> <manikoo> use this chance
22:14 <+bridge_> <alw5> if ur client doesnt have fastinput kog players will not use it xd
22:15 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> We will add a super anti-ping that will give you a negative ping and you will be able to see the future
22:15 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223233069935231077/1277337868439785502/togif-38.gif
22:15 <+bridge_> <manikoo> 🤡
22:16 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Well, to be honest, we’re only about 30% done. I honestly don’t even understand why I started this argument.
22:16 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> I came here just to find coders for our client.
22:17 <+bridge_> <manikoo> open source -> coders will come if they are interested
22:17 <+bridge_> <alw5> that is true
22:17 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> always, are you a coder?
22:17 <+bridge_> <alw5> sometimes
22:17 <+bridge_> <manikoo> hes developer
22:17 <+bridge_> <manikoo> dont you see
22:18 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> gg nothing to read
22:18 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i got ragebaited today
22:21 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> Are you open to new proposals?
22:21 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1466906277413126336/image.png?ex=697e726e&is=697d20ee&hm=1db75c496d6b7f96a6e075ba191ec28cfe9975be83f7aeac1bf8b616abf2faa9&
22:22 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> :sideeye:
22:22 <+bridge_> <alw5> idk
22:22 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> if it's just a banner that says "hello, world" im gonna lose it
22:22 <+bridge_> <alw5> XD
22:23 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://giphy.com/gifs/james-doakes-car-meme-12s2PXFPfJXUcHHjWR
22:23 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> How does he know
22:24 <+bridge_> <manikoo> guys
22:24 <+bridge_> <manikoo> stop it
22:24 <+bridge_> <manikoo> let him lose hope
22:24 <+bridge_> <manikoo> in his "BEST CLIENT"
22:25 <+bridge_> <roflikbest1> https://tenor.com/view/hand-shake-sup-homie-dap-up-whats-up-greeting-gif-14436809
22:25 <+bridge_> <nyrrcly> https://tenor.com/view/pipotam-baby-hippo-hippo-wash-shower-gif-3406421565683572068
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> see
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> corgerms
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> what do you think about pipo
22:25 <+bridge_> <nyrrcly> <a:pepeswing:1106630403646828554>
22:26 <+bridge_> <manikoo> yee its happy
22:26 <+bridge_> <manikoo> <a:CatJAM:1238967864665440266>