00:31 <+bridge_> <_qey> Can someone advise me on illegal/suspicious movement inputs? I want my AC to cover a broad range of those. Now it only supports hookride detection.
00:32 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> can't really discuss this here, at least not specifics
00:32 <+bridge_> <_qey> Is it not related to development?
00:32 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (this is as a ddnet moderator POV)
00:33 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> if someone else has implemented anticheat (kog? but they're also closed-source?)
00:33 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> so im not sure you will get much help
00:33 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> there is no open-source code available about anticheat, for obvious reasons
00:33 <+bridge_> <_qey> I’m also closed-source. It’s not the implementation I’m asking, but the overall idea. A concept.
00:35 <+bridge_> <_qey> It’s just that nothing else comes to my mind besides hookride. Due to my lack of  knowledge of how hacked clients work.
00:36 <+bridge_> <_qey> It’s just that nothing else comes to my mind besides hookride. Due to my lack of knowledge of how hacked clients work.
00:57 <+bridge_> <kebscs> Balancing on a frozen tee for too long?
00:59 <+bridge_> <_qey> Noted.
01:00 <+bridge_> <_qey> However, lon a stationary” tee may be a better suit.
01:00 <+bridge_> <_qey> However, “on a stationary” tee may be a better suit.
01:00 <+bridge_> <kebscs> Also aimbot, quick aim snaps to hook, shoot others
01:01 <+bridge_> <_qey> Already implemented.
01:02 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> freeze avoid is probably common knowledge enough
01:03 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> entirely depends on what mode you're making this for
01:03 <+bridge_> <_qey> Not sure how it works.
01:03 <+bridge_> <_qey> Primarily block, but any game mode would benefit from a behavior-based AC.
01:04 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> so then yeah you're mostly looking at fake aim, aim snapping, auto dj to control spikes in Y momentum, things like that
01:04 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> freeze avoid is the most obvious thing
01:05 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> quick changes in angle that allow for near tolerances but still dont freeze
01:05 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> a poor heuristic might be how close to freeze they are willing to get before changing X direction
01:06 <+bridge_> <_qey> I’ve had false-bans in my previous iterations of anti-aimbot due to how DDNet’s tick rate is. Added some additional checks, raised the threshold. Now it entirely skips non-silent aimbots xD
01:06 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> consider also that bot behavior might be "modal" and only happen during specific circumstances
01:07 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> might need to build up some pattern recognition for that
01:09 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i probably shut up now
01:09 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> you could try reaching noby but well, no one has really reached him in ages xd
01:09 <+bridge_> <_qey> I doubt hacked clients’ maintainers read it and be like “he knows how avoid freeze works, let’s change it”.
01:10 <+bridge_> <_qey> FNG’s behavior is much, much stricter than regular block.
01:10 <+bridge_> <_qey> FNG’s player’s intended behavior is much, much stricter than regular block.
01:10 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> noby is responsible for much more than fng
01:11 <+bridge_> <_qey> That’s the only thing I know him for. Not so much a DDNet player myself.
01:11 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> ill just say moderation as we currently do it would not be possible without his work
01:11 <+bridge_> <_qey> Even though I have been playing it since 2013 with huge gaps, I’d still consider myself a novice player.
01:13 <+bridge_> <_qey> It’s an everlasting battle. Not sure why I’m even doing this, lol.
01:14 <+bridge_> <_qey> Because it all can become irrelevant in like 1-2 months.
01:15 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> kinda true
07:18 <+bridge_> <louis> are there any tools for parsing tw demos nicely
07:26 <+bridge_> <totar> https://github.com/Teero888/ddnet_demo
07:28 <+bridge_> <totar> this is the only one afaik
07:39 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/78c3953d671b690bd06d598043dbae980f6a6a1c/CMakeLists.txt#L1867
07:39 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/data/shader/vulkan/quadbo.vertfrag
07:39 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> looks like this doesn't get copied and is there any problem?
09:11 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> there's also one in libtw2, I think
09:15 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @l._ouis: https://github.com/Teero888/ddnet_demo
09:15 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Oh tater already sent that. Classic reading chat from bottom error
10:09 <+bridge_> <Assa> @chillerdragon now I have the opposite problem ...
10:09 <+bridge_> <Assa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1461286261368291400/screenshot_2026-01-15_10-09-13.png?ex=696a0062&is=6968aee2&hm=9b69a851642ef628fee304b2d384e0a3eaa59bd81cd577fd01d8f2afafceb9f2&
10:17 <+bridge_> <NyrrCly> Where is `Button Browser` used?
10:20 <+bridge_> <remakepower> lol
10:20 <+bridge_> <remakepower> we are going to get ddnet 20
10:20 <+bridge_> <manikoo> 20.1
10:20 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i don't think there will be 20
10:21 <+bridge_> <remakepower> It's just a major version.
10:21 <+bridge_> <NyrrCly> 26.1
10:21 <+bridge_> <NyrrCly> (
10:21 <+bridge_> <remakepower> e.g. 19.7 and 19.6 belong to DDNet 19
10:21 <+bridge_> <Assa> the question is always, _what is a major and what is a minor version break_
10:21 <+bridge_> <manikoo> yeah i know
10:21 <+bridge_> <Assa> Envelope tiles would be a major I assume
10:23 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I think we just release a version without any extra meaning.
10:23 <+bridge_> <remakepower> It's just a periodic task.
10:24 <+bridge_> <remakepower> be like what Linux did.
10:25 <+bridge_> <remakepower> But we will round up for every ten.
10:27 <+bridge_> <remakepower> Teeworlds has a clearer version break.
10:31 <+bridge_> <remakepower> Also
10:31 <+bridge_> <remakepower> when wii we get DDNet 30.1?
10:31 <+bridge_> <remakepower> 😄
10:31 <+bridge_> <remakepower> when will we get DDNet 30.1?
10:34 <+bridge_> <remakepower> Huh
10:35 <+bridge_> <remakepower> why there are Teeworlds' tags in the DDNet tags.
10:35 <+bridge_> <remakepower> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/tags?after=0.7.1
10:35 <+bridge_> <Assa> fork
10:35 <+bridge_> <Assa> fork 🍴
10:36 <+ChillerDragon> @Assa why didnt you fully keep the old behavior unless the server sent something new only new ddnet servers send?
10:36 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I see
10:36 <+bridge_> <remakepower> there's no 0.7.5 tag
10:36 <+bridge_> <Assa> because robyt asked me to move all of the legacy messages into the game client
10:37 <+bridge_> <Assa> because robyt asked me to move all of the legacy messages into the game client in order to generalize it over components
10:37 <+bridge_> <remakepower> So did DDNet leave the fork network after 0.7.4?
10:41 <+bridge_> <louis> someone should implement switchable solid tiles and maybe we can get envelope switch targetswitch and solid tiles in a major vers :o
10:49 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> wouldn't that completely break older clients
10:59 <+bridge_> <0xdeen> ^ Thank you @davide55 !
11:54 <+bridge_> <bog_original> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1461312703967658205/1.jpg?ex=696a1902&is=6968c782&hm=4b18bac19fad7f3824b03859779458a34fde449eaaff35a6a5d1d0c682a2df5b&
11:55 <+bridge_> <bog_original> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1461312704269516872/2.jpg?ex=696a1902&is=6968c782&hm=e6c9f130d11e97f2a6b376a901d073b8947e0c1b501aa0aae9f7c61213b6ab05&
11:55 <+bridge_> <bog_original> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1461312704550797445/3.jpg?ex=696a1902&is=6968c782&hm=d773fd17b452c6316bc38e0012ca9d6836d9f8ef9c416224426908b0f75cff0d&
11:55 <+bridge_> <bog_original> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1461312704856723650/4.jpg?ex=696a1902&is=6968c782&hm=22c9a0a03a992e226ec0c87627d394564cb17dd0984173c6b4f96d469f8bdc7e&
11:55 <+bridge_> <Assa> @Discord Mod
11:55 <+bridge_> <Assa> merci
16:36 <+ChillerDragon> i feel like teeworlds bot.png causes caused my render bug
16:36 <+ChillerDragon> i use .teeworlds for ddnet
16:36 <+ChillerDragon> and 0.7 installs a bot.png there
16:36 <+ChillerDragon> if on ddnet 0.6 someone uses a skin called bot i see garbage
17:20 <+bridge_> <ulquora> I go to the server and it bans me for using a VPN, even though I don't have one. Help.
17:28 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Which server? What’s your ip?
17:30 <+bridge_> <ulquora> TF
17:31 <+bridge_> <ulquora> How can I find out my IP?
18:45 <+bridge_> <swarfey> you should ask here if you didnt use vpn: https://discord.gg/824f3H3j
18:45 <+bridge_> <swarfey> you should ask there if you didnt use vpn: https://discord.gg/824f3H3j
19:50 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> ifconfig.me
19:50 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> and dont post it here
19:50 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> https://ifconfig.me
19:50 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> https://ifconfig.me
20:02 <+bridge_> <ulquora> my IP address 89.109.50.228
20:02 <+bridge_> <giorno45> Why would send it here???
20:03 <+bridge_> <giorno45> I would've deleted it if I was you
20:03 <+bridge_> <aegisub> my ip address 192.168.1.67
20:03 <+bridge_> <Assa> my IP adress 127.0.0.1
20:05 <+bridge_> <giorno45> It's even funnier when you see this
20:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> my ip adress
21:50 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> https://ifconfig.me