00:12 <+bridge_> <alw5> @furo
00:13 <+bridge_> <alw5> gen1
00:13 <+bridge_> <alw5> genericore 1
00:13 <+furo> Don't think I will play now, sorry!
00:13 <+bridge_> <alw5> OKAY
09:41 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> im only here to say 2 things
09:43 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> 1. im rewriting chiller's 0.7 Lua client library (luluworlds) to use LuaJIT (LuaBitops, and way better perf) and to handle 19.1 ddnet spec
09:43 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> 2. i just had sparkling sake for the first time and i think its the best thing that's ever been in my mouth
09:43 <+bridge_> <Assa> > luluworlds
09:44 <+bridge_> <Assa> guess chiller is sometimes a but delulu
09:44 <+bridge_> <Assa> guess chiller is sometimes a bit delulu
09:44 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> the sake though is like 7 dollars for 300ml
09:45 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> like wtf why would i ever buy this regularly
09:45 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i hope its cheaper in japan, god damn
09:45 <+bridge_> <Assa> ah you mean sake like the rice wine
09:45 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> yes yes
09:45 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> XD question mark resolved
09:46 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> learning about the teeworlds protocol was fun ^^ there was a lot i had to do in order to change the bits around for 0.6
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> seems like my packets with chunks are still not formed correctly, first miniboss is to simply send NETMSG_INFO
09:47 <+bridge_> <Assa> If I translate that into whisky prices - that's cheap
09:47 <+bridge_> <alw5> gorp pizza
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> well keep in mind, sake is like 5%
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> whisky is like a premium liquor and like 40%+
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> this is just wine xd
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> RICE wine
09:47 <+bridge_> <Assa> If I translate that to finish beer prices :justatest:  @inv41idu53rn4m3
09:47 <+bridge_> <alw5> gorp can you deliver pizza overseas
09:47 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i wish
09:48 <+bridge_> <alw5> why not
09:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i think chiller and heinrich tho are like the most important ppl for the overall client/server-making community
09:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> jesus christ ive consumed so much knowledge from both their docs
09:48 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> so thank you to both (if they read this)
09:49 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> especially the traffic decoder is nice, then i dont have to keep spamming assert() everywhere in lua xd
09:50 <+bridge_> <Assa> I guess if you mean the modding community - but only because of ddnet insta right?
09:50 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> no no, i just mean the info they put out on all protocols is so thorough
09:50 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> so i can easily see the differences or figure out how to change things
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> also ive never really done low-level bitwise stuff like this
09:52 <+bridge_> <alw5> what about roby
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> ```lua
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> -- first 2 bits are flags, last 6 are first 6 of size (of 10 total)
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>   local first_byte = bit.bor(bit.lshift(flags, 6), bit.band(bit.rshift(chunk.size, 4), 0x3f))
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> 
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>   if chunk.flag_vital then
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>     return string_char(
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       first_byte,
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       -- first 4 of seq, then last 4 of size
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       bit.bor(bit.band(bit.rshift(chunk.seq, 2), 0xf0), bit.band(chunk.size, 0x0f)),
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       -- last 8 of seq (note that bits 7 and 8 are duplicated on purpose)
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       bit.band(chunk.seq, 0xff)
09:52 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>     ) .. chunk.data
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>   else
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>     return string_char(
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       first_byte,
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       -- 4-bit padding, then last 4 of size
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>       bit.band(chunk.size, 0x0f)
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>     ) .. chunk.data
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw>   end```
09:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> chunk packer ^^
09:54 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i figured out how to make immutable enums in Lua as well :D
09:54 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (with metatable methods)
09:56 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> huh, i think i can remove CTRL_TOKEN from this lib, seems to be 0.7 only (since token is negotiated immediately on CTRL_CONNECT)
10:38 <+bridge_> <prosti13> Very bad, but thanks for the help friend
10:57 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> yay lua pog
10:58 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @gorp_tw: btw I streamed the messy build of this library https://www.youtube.com/live/_5Kfogdsxyw
10:58 <+bridge_> <Assa> !ping
10:59 <+bridge_> <Assa> 🙁
10:59 <+bridge_> <melon> chiller I always wondered
10:59 <+bridge_> <melon> 
10:59 <+bridge_> <melon> What is it with you and so many different languages, is it adhd, mild autism or are you required to do all dat for work
10:59 <+bridge_> <melon> go, ruby, python, bash, assembly, C(++)
11:00 <+bridge_> <melon> especially your gem projects scare me
11:00 <+bridge_> <Assa> for me it's all of the above
11:01 <+bridge_> <melon> I mean for me it's pretty simple
11:01 <+bridge_> <melon> 
11:01 <+bridge_> <melon> I like rust so I learned it, I use C/C++ at work so I learned it, and I use scripting languages cuz I'm a Linux nerd
11:02 <+bridge_> <Assa> I didn't learn php because I liked it so much :pepeW:  but it was required for work
11:03 <+bridge_> <Assa> on the other hand, I use python at work and in private, just for scripting and writing code fast
11:03 <+bridge_> <Assa> I don't care if python is 1000 times slower than rust, if I just needed 30 minutes and I can just keep the computer running
11:04 <+bridge_> <Assa> I don't care if python is 1000 times slower than rust, if I just needed 30 minutes to write code and I can just keep the computer running
11:05 <+bridge_> <NyrrCly> When ddnet-rs update
11:05 <+bridge_> <NyrrCly> 🥹
11:05 <+bridge_> <melon> jupstar is still on break
11:10 <+bridge_> <melon> I heard php came a long way actually
12:00 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> melon: I just like the game. It took me annoyingly long to understand the protocol. So I want enjoyers of different languages to be able to start quicker at building something cool
12:00 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Different languages have different use cases
12:00 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> And I want gaming in all of them
12:25 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> It would be cool to create a bot
12:25 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Which can actually to parts
12:25 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Surely it's possible
12:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> At least for some simpler parts
12:37 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> I wonder what Teero's tools can do
12:38 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> I imagine they're not great for making decisions in real time
12:42 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> do you want another bot crisis upon the already existing TAS problem we have?
12:42 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> I mean
12:43 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> It's probably hard to make it good in real time
12:53 <+bridge_> <manikoo> in teero's tas there must be pathfinder
12:53 <+bridge_> <manikoo> special one
12:54 <+bridge_> <manikoo> that makes his runs best on the wild west
12:54 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> I think he does quite a lot of pathfinding himself too, and uses the tools to refine that path
12:55 <+bridge_> <melon> I know y'all love botting but please don't discuss it in here - at least not in the context of ddnet
12:55 <+bridge_> <melon> It's bad enough as is, we'd be spreading the know how for future ChatGPTEE's.
12:55 <+bridge_> <manikoo> o shit
12:56 <+bridge_> <manikoo> :justatest:
13:49 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Okay, i never talk about botting in a malicious context, i think it's just cool
13:51 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> I also had an idea to create a heat map based on the teehistorian data
13:52 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> It would be useful to get some samples though
13:57 <+bridge_> <Assa> I always wanted a heatmap of death, but you need to take the survivor bias into account (like most resets are right at the start line)
13:58 <+bridge_> <avolicious> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/819539371954929714/1458400087192637540/image.png?ex=695f806c&is=695e2eec&hm=98895a795a0820634ca5f043a7f83cb0383a93859091e2e95d4bd7ca95d59389
13:58 <+bridge_> <avolicious> 
13:58 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Sadly I cant install DDNet on MacOS anymore 🙁 It worked in the past, but somehow its not signed anymore?
13:58 <+bridge_> <melon> oh das bad, did Deen change something on his build machine? :justatest:
13:59 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> I guess you'd just have to take run duration into account
13:59 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> In some way
13:59 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Probably not a huge issue
14:00 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Already sent him a DM & asked if he forgot to sign the exe
14:01 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Btw is it possible for physics to be ever so slightly inconsistent because of compiler optimizations?
14:01 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Floating point operations might be rearranged based on compiler flags
14:03 <+bridge_> <teero777> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI4geo5KJe8
14:03 <+bridge_> <teero777> just found this old vid. For mapping this would be really cool.
14:16 <+bridge_> <alw5> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295908390956433410/1438249972733710488/movement-DA8F3x.mp4?ex=695f5d6a&is=695e0bea&hm=bbdbe14042ea484ee45ab763cdbe33952d3186c7e19b117eb90ea41ddb6df841&
14:16 <+bridge_> <alw5> anyone have theories?
14:17 <+bridge_> <alw5> what is the most likely theory how that happened
14:20 <+bridge_> <giorno45> The wind blew in the right direction
14:24 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> I mean is it supposed to not happen?
14:26 <+bridge_> <alw5> yeah its impossible
14:26 <+bridge_> <alw5> with just walking on ground speed
14:26 <+bridge_> <alw5> if u do from the same coords it wont work
14:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> It won't work when starting from the same coords?
14:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> That is in fact interesting
14:28 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> I would guess that you were somehow perfectly aligned
14:28 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> But it should work every time
14:28 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> If that were the case
14:28 <+bridge_> <alw5> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8172 full discussion
14:29 <+bridge_> <louis> He never hit 0.00 x speed, maybe that's part of the trick
14:29 <+bridge_> <louis> oh yeah patigas calculations make it seem impossible ig
14:32 <+bridge_> <alw5> cosmic ray bit flip
14:32 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Probably not
14:33 <+bridge_> <alw5> keyword "probably"
14:33 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> Opened on April 1st
14:33 <+bridge_> <alw5> XD
14:34 <+bridge_> <alw5> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/757720336274948198/1169925381155983430
14:34 <+bridge_> <louis> yeah lowkey elaborate troll setup
14:34 <+bridge_> <alw5> it was before
14:34 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> But what about my original concern?
14:35 <+bridge_> <01000111g> maybe it has something to do worh high coordinates. I remember sone setzps working at low coords but not for instance at x=10000
14:35 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> Do we have any check to assure that physics doesn't just change randomly
14:35 <+bridge_> <01000111g> and the running through is dependent on the tick you start, because freeze isnt detected in each tick iirc.
15:32 <+bridge_> <alw5> chiller tweakin
15:35 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1451112977062428744.webp?size=96&animated=true
15:57 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> ye he lost his mind :kek:
16:00 <+bridge_> <patiga> Zwelf is working on that
16:01 <+bridge_> <patiga> Then it would be reproducible on the same map, but we tried and failed :/
16:02 <+bridge_> <manikoo> how would they
16:02 <+bridge_> <manikoo> if it code
16:02 <+bridge_> <manikoo> certain numbers
16:09 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> what does that mean, is there any discussion on this problem?
16:09 <+bridge_> <01000111g> how did u reproduce starting at the same tick? I remember having a discussion about setups with d+jump and then falling through freeze. It was only consistent if u start at the same tick relative to the freeze ticks (the solution was to freeze urself first and hold the buttons)
16:18 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Woah u had pChr->GetId() give me a value of over 1000 today??? I thought these are the same as client id
16:19 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Isn’t the entity ID also used for the snap?
16:19 <+bridge_> <patiga> I was talking about the coord setup which you were mentioning might be relevant. I kinda assume the tick should be irrelevant
16:20 <+bridge_> <learath2> Maybe a macOS update? I remember one of us having an apple developer account, I wonder if a certificate expired or sth
16:21 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> Automatically test the same scenarios in multiple versions and compare if you got the same movement. Basically replay bot and see if it works perfectly
16:21 <+bridge_> <patiga> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/11498
16:21 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Already talked with deen about that
16:22 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Sadly MacOS locked down the os to not run any unsigned code, unless you manually maintain a list of allowlisted apps
16:22 <+bridge_> <avolicious> But every update (binary hash) removes the allowlisted item
16:22 <+bridge_> <avolicious> But every update (binary hash) removes the allowlisted item & you have to re-allow again
16:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i mean how would physics change
16:30 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> It could happen if someone makes a mistake while editing physics related code. That's why we really avoid working on it even if we just want to improve existing code.
16:31 <+bridge_> <inv41idu53rn4m3> It could happen if someone makes a mistake while editing physics related code. That's why we really avoid working on it even if we just want to improve existing code without adding fancy new features.
16:36 <+bridge_> <manikoo> are game physics coded in server or what
16:37 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i cannot just edit my exe code and get speed hack
16:39 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Yes they are in the server
16:39 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> That’s why there is also no speedhack
17:05 <+bridge_> <manikoo> imagine change game physics as april fool
17:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i mesn entirely
17:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i mean entirely
17:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> but the way it wont affect scoreboards
17:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> then its hard
17:06 <+bridge_> <manikoo> hmm
17:25 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Imagine not storing ranks as April fools
17:25 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Then it would work xd
17:54 <+bridge_> <learath2> and I guess it's not really worth it for us to get a signing cert for macOS when almost no one plays on it
18:19 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Initially I proposed to provide my cert to sign the exe for deen, but then he decided to sign it with his own key - which i totally understand 😄
18:20 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Sadly I cant install / play ddnet on my laptop as my compliance center would alert me every 30 seconds
18:20 <+bridge_> <learath2> I did have one too back in the day when I was thinking of doing some IOS development
18:21 <+bridge_> <manikoo> such a genius guess
18:21 <+bridge_> <manikoo> admins take it seriously
18:21 <+bridge_> <manikoo> i gave you idea for april fool
18:22 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> how can you get a certificate that works for everyone?
18:22 <+bridge_> <avolicious> From Apple?
18:22 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Or what do you mean by getting a cert for everyone?
18:23 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> technically you can add any certificate on your own system
18:23 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Not on Apple
18:23 <+bridge_> <avolicious> MacOS is very restrictive on how their apps work
18:23 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> oh ok
18:23 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> not very surprising
18:24 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> so on MacOS all apps are controlled by apple just like on IOS?
18:24 <+bridge_> <avolicious> No, you can install 3rd party apps as well, but Apple doesnt allow you to run them unless you allowed them manually
18:24 <+bridge_> <avolicious> But if the checksum of the binary changes you have to do the same process over and over again
18:25 <+bridge_> <avolicious> If you sign the binary with an apple developer certificate, you can distribute any binary & apple trusts the binary
18:25 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> it's weird that you can't add your own certificate
18:25 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Its a bit sad that you have to pay 99 EUR / year for the developer license
18:25 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Microsoft has also started doing this https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/757720336274948198/1456095961490260049
18:26 <+bridge_> <avolicious> Oh, havent seen this so far
18:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> btw i am trying to parse teehistorian
18:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> and it's annoying
18:27 <+bridge_> <avolicious> There is a rust lib available
18:27 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> those variable length ints are annoying
18:28 <+bridge_> <avolicious> And a python lib: https://pypi.org/project/teehistorian-py/
18:28 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> i want to do it myself
18:28 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> basically it's hard to control exactly the layout of data in memory
18:29 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> because compilers can do so much stuff
18:29 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> like add padding
18:29 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> or using big endian
18:29 <+bridge_> <pilonpl> so it's hard to rely on anything
18:54 <+bridge_> <gorp> damn might watch this xd
19:09 <+bridge_> <manikoo> 6 hours yes
20:05 <+bridge_> <byfox> https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/issues/509
20:05 <+bridge_> <byfox> I suspect that this error is on the client side of ddnet-insta.
20:05 <+bridge_> <byfox> 
20:05 <+bridge_> <byfox> Can anyone explain why this is happening?...
20:12 <+bridge_> <byfox> empty
21:25 <+bridge_> <islam0811.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458557113834930483/1.jpg?ex=696012aa&is=695ec12a&hm=202f783f34d343571225d683bfa74cdc351d405cfd745d3e282f114a9dbf2f47&
21:25 <+bridge_> <islam0811.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458557114090786876/2.jpg?ex=696012aa&is=695ec12a&hm=fc5b4f6785aad46d828cd9110d0fe87be1cfd00149428dc70e4f935be4cc24a6&
21:25 <+bridge_> <islam0811.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458557114359480341/3.jpg?ex=696012aa&is=695ec12a&hm=ff3f04612a21bde53e61b66585d842b83cb24fa0c1e7c699131ca34c13884a34&
21:25 <+bridge_> <islam0811.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458557114627653776/4.jpg?ex=696012aa&is=695ec12a&hm=b9a3deb088a713ae5b7dd058d6ce7705cfd12ee8c8024ac8c28d510a0ef036a4&
21:25 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> @Discord Mod
21:27 <+bridge_> <robyt3> Can anyone with macOS test #11439? In particular, build the release package, and test if starting the local server from within the client works with that.
21:27 <+bridge_> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/11439
21:49 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> anyone know what the setting is to hot reload maps
21:50 <+bridge_> <manikoo> hot_reload
21:50 <+bridge_> <manikoo> isn't it
22:01 <+bridge_> <qxdfox> need test cmds enabled
22:07 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> oh my god i thought it would be some complex server flag or soething
22:07 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> my bad i should've checked
22:20 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> 0.6 connection works :feelsamazingman:
22:21 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i should probably stick this lib somewhere now
22:21 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (not that it does anything after enter_game though)
22:23 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> chiller can u plz explain this xd
22:23 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458571754325676325/image.png?ex=6960204d&is=695ececd&hm=e2c14ed6a2e5bb47adbbcb94041ea9681cec23343b6988a22f6800238708d146&
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> needed for neovim
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> whats not understandable :greenthing:
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> for sure it's chillers hack commands that will detonate all servers as he press red button
22:25 <+bridge_> <manikoo> for sure it's chillers hack command that will detonate all servers as he press red button
22:26 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> afaik flush is only needed to ensure output stream buffer is written
22:26 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but i guess if i am not running this in an environment where i think that's an issue already i can remove this?
22:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> if you don't use neovim sure
22:27 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> it's just strange that neovim *needs* this
22:27 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> maybe neovim never automatically flushes or smt
22:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> chiller's genius ways to solve problems
22:27 <+bridge_> <manikoo> we cannot understand
22:28 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> his code was not bad honestly, i just had to tweak a few things here and there and i think it's quite clean now
22:28 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> plus optimizations
22:38 <+ChillerDragon> @gorp_tw here the live incident https://www.youtube.com/live/_5Kfogdsxyw?si=QjTRk44T1T_n8Dff&t=5810
22:38 <+ChillerDragon> i thought there was a bug in my code because i did `lua client.lua` in neovim and it came back blank
22:39 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> XDD
22:39 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> ok i see
22:39 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i guess i can leave it there
22:40 <+ChillerDragon> yea idk
22:41 <+ChillerDragon> it probably makes everything slower and you dont need it xd
22:41 <+ChillerDragon> idk why lua doesnt flush when run from neovim
22:41 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i wonder if micro also has this issue..
22:41 <+ChillerDragon> there is probably some SO about it but i never investigated
22:41 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (i run in the terminal always anyway)
22:44 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> wow this is impossible to search for btw
22:44 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> because it is configured *in* lua
22:45 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> so all results are about that
22:47 <+ChillerDragon> xd
22:48 <+ChillerDragon> yea i think i have the same problem there too if i print from my config file i dont see it but might be something else
22:49 <+ChillerDragon> recently i learned about `:messages` which allowed me to show my debug prints from my neovim config
22:52 <+bridge_> <manikoo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287716834682081280/1338422730428645396/petpet.gif
22:57 <+bridge_> <vahemaaa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407378288002732075/1431311718830702674/petpet.gif
22:59 <+bridge_> <manikoo> bush with eyes and 2 rocks
22:59 <+ChillerDragon> woah i didnt know the server can send you back to the menu?
22:59 <+ChillerDragon> i just tried to join onbgy fng with vpn and it sent me back to server browser 
22:59 <+ChillerDragon> no error popup
22:59 <+ChillerDragon> is that a bug?
23:03 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i really help there is no exec in close reason xddd
23:03 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i really hope there is no exec in close reason xddd
23:06 <+bridge_> <teero777> *berries
23:16 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/1017277af656c0d926eddc608bbbe064712e2a92/src/game/client/components/menus.cpp#L2262
23:16 <+ChillerDragon> yea i guess the server can close the connection without sending an error
23:17 <+ChillerDragon> oddly unexpected ux for me
23:35 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> ah, time to pour a beer
23:35 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> certificates are a material cost now
23:35 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> oh, apple, lovely
23:36 <+bridge_> <avolicious> @0xdeen SES_UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION: TypeError: can't access property "toFixed", cost[server] is undefined
23:36 <+bridge_> <avolicious>     <anonymous> https://ddnet.org/funding/:289
23:37 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> deen is "merging it right now!"
23:38 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (im joking, i mean about the merge before test)
23:38 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> (im joking, i mean about the commit before test)
23:39 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> seems it will be impossible to meet the yearly quota for infrastructure guys. regions is covered though... or undeterminable?
23:39 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458590800408612894/image.png?ex=6960320a&is=695ee08a&hm=e6918de62191d3d04ed452a04682081bac2c16061fc552a461224b8f0a00fe29&
23:41 <+bridge_> <manikoo> NaN
23:47 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> how can I get the server executable after installing from ubuntu repository or do I have to build it msyelf. I only found the client executable
23:48 <+bridge_> <melon> `find / -name "*ddnet*server*" -type f 2>/dev/null`
23:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> thanks
23:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> i need to use linux more
23:49 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> i forget all of these commands
23:49 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> ah rip
23:49 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458593449916895274/image.png?ex=69603481&is=695ee301&hm=99d2004a4efa5f7106c8a47fc49bed7263adce0d252e8443491d7cd9cfb0a907&
23:50 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> ddnet-server might be a a different package
23:50 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> theres `ddnet` `ddnet-server` and `ddnet-tools`
23:50 <+bridge_> <soulyvevo> and `ddnet-data`
23:50 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> yeah just realized too
23:52 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> ain't that just fun
23:52 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1458594168795431045/image.png?ex=6960352d&is=695ee3ad&hm=a35ba51d2d8b89f3ad80c56e2df5a4c8baafe180ba67ce068cfc5572dc873eb8&