00:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @heinrich5991: oh nice :) what a funny incident
00:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> How is the ccc? Who was at the ddnet meetup?
00:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I miss this stuff every year .\_.
01:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> ya i wanna know who went
01:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> would mumble link code have any chance of landing in ddnet-client?
01:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> we already have engine/client/discord.cpp
01:05 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> discord from Temu XD
01:07 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> my message from temu did not bridge
01:08 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> unless it's not supposed to
02:36 <+bridge_> <louis> @robyt3 @essigautomat I should've fixed all the targetswitch comments so its ready for re review whenever you feel like it :giftee_green:
02:38 <+bridge_> <louis> ah the only thing i was still unsure about was the targetswitchcooldown magic number... i think its the best way especially with moving switches + shotgun bullets but not 100% on it
04:46 <+bridge_> <melon river> most likely not
05:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> why not? it changes nothing about the client if mumble is not open
05:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> just like discord
05:00 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i find it odd already that we do anything for discord, as a FOSS project
05:01 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> but i understand the reasoning
05:22 <+bridge_> <melon river> discord rpc is REALLY big
05:22 <+bridge_> <melon river> its for advertising
05:22 <+bridge_> <melon river> but mumble wont help with shi
05:30 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> how difficult is dead reckoning to implement lol
05:35 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i remember a big convo about that
05:35 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> probably hard xd
06:35 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> are doors calculated by dead reckoing
07:03 <+bridge_> <zhandoushuang666> hello
07:39 <+bridge_> <Ametic'> how to actually get +v on irc
07:39 <+bridge_> <Ametic'> (i'm just wondering)
07:53 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> @swarfey would you be open to a PR that changes iOptions to accept reconnect, with a default of `true` ?
07:54 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> I need to be able to disable automatic reconnection due to timeout, since it can cause spam to high-ping locations (you get disconnect before connect in this case, not being able to reconsile this in code if your connections are managed)
07:54 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> I need to be able to disable automatic reconnection due to timeout, since it can cause spam to high-ping locations (you get disconnect before connect in this case, not being able to reconcile this in code if your connections are managed)
08:20 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i didz it anyway but maybe its not right, gonna test
09:01 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> how can I optimize the map? (it weighs 3.66 mb)
09:04 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Make the layers smaller and delete embedded images and everything else that’s not used such as envelopes layers and so on
09:05 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> Take a look for yourself
09:05 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455471826653286573/Helluva.map?ex=6954d944&is=695387c4&hm=22baf67d44abc3777303193a1d0a0c1fb2ec78375754be372d5d55d35021cd38&
09:06 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> @12944qwerty: what are you working on?
09:06 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Same thing
09:06 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Volleyball ai
09:06 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Ah so the prediction issue from swarfey basically?
09:07 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> and here in more detail
09:07 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> That’s quite some work
09:07 <+bridge_> <louis> @bobik8912 tilesets dont need to be 2048x2048. Also are u even using those fogs?
09:07 <+bridge_> <louis> otherwise its probably fine. u might be able to downscale assets . the convention is one tile in-game should correspond to 64 pixels of image
09:07 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I recommend to just ditch JavaScript and use the ddnet client
09:07 <+bridge_> <louis> 64x64 pixels
09:07 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> It’s already fast and feature complete
09:08 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Yeah but i don't want to when with c and i don't understand half of the code to be able to automate a bot
09:08 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> I use it to simulate clouds.
09:08 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Yeah but i don't want to with c and i don't understand half of the code to be able to automate a bot
09:08 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> But the size really needs to be reduced.
09:08 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Then dead reckoning won’t be easier still imo
09:08 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Ik
09:08 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> What happened to your pythons twnet parser
09:08 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> C looks like JavaScript change my mind
09:09 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Im still working on it but it also won’t get any physics implementation any time soon
09:09 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Types and memory management and imports and so many other things
09:09 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Sad
09:09 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Tho I have played with python bindings for teero physics once
09:09 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Is there any docs on dead reckoning by chance
09:09 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I think yes
09:09 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> I assume there has to be something
09:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Yes yes
09:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> There is in this very channel talk about it
09:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Maybe libtw2 docs
09:10 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Or twgame
09:11 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> tldr is just do the next physics tick and calculate new position of tees
09:11 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> The server only tells you old pos and age in ticks if a tee was not touched by others and can just be predicted
09:11 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> The hardest part is probably hook physics?
09:12 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Hardest part is full physics
09:12 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> It also needs to load and parse the map data
09:12 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Yeah
09:12 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> That’s step one I would say
09:12 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> But what do I know
09:12 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> At least there's docs for that
09:12 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> I never bothered to do it
09:13 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> Apparently you can use ddnet as a physics library soon
09:13 <+bridge_> <chillerdragon> But I doubt it :D
09:14 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Soon™
09:15 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> Maybe https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twmap-py
09:40 <+ChillerDragon> yes twmap is a good start
09:40 <+ChillerDragon> but i need matching physics and teero has a map and physics lib that already work together
09:43 <+bridge_> <bobik8912> What is twmap-py used for and what tasks can it be used for?
10:35 <+ChillerDragon> there are a few projects using it and it can do everything
10:35 <+ChillerDragon> read and write any kind of map
11:17 <+bridge_> <aegisub> can it do my taxes
11:48 <+ChillerDragon> everything map related bru -.-
11:48 <+ChillerDragon> it can convert your tax statement to a ddnet map
12:40 <+bridge_> <watermelon> https://youtube.com/shorts/1MSy6epsU6Y for a schizoprenic person surprisingly sane
12:50 <+ChillerDragon> imo ruby did it quite nice
12:50 <+ChillerDragon> there is public and private and it works
12:50 <+ChillerDragon> but if you really need to access private stuff you just can
12:51 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> then it's not that private xd
12:51 <+ChillerDragon> so a library can communicate clearly the public api and power users can still access what they need without touching the class if they know what they are doing
12:51 <+ChillerDragon> its different syntax to call the method then
12:51 <+ChillerDragon> so you wont do it by accident
12:52 <+ChillerDragon> imo better than some _ prefix hax some languages use
13:07 <+ChillerDragon> @bcmutma u here?
13:08 <+bridge_> <bcmutma> ye
13:09 <+ChillerDragon> okay nice @bcmutma I could reproduce I really have to go now -.- but i will have a look later i can just start the server right?
13:09 <+bridge_> <bcmutma> ye
13:29 <+bridge_> <louis> i somehow broke ninja target switches
13:35 <+bridge_> <louis> oh its because HandleNinja returns out of the entire function if the server is in solo mode :|
13:37 <+bridge_> <remakepower> After spending the whole afternoon writing a container class, I realized it's useless, at least now. 🙁
13:37 <+bridge_> <remakepower> :frozen:
13:40 <+bridge_> <remakepower> I got beaten by the ocean of cpp templates
15:03 <+bridge_> <swarfey> oh whats the issue with it?
15:03 <+bridge_> <swarfey> if the tee times out after reconnecting i would rather fix that instead of making it like that
15:03 <+bridge_> <swarfey> if the tee times out after reconnecting i would rather fix that instead of adding an extra option for that
15:29 <+bridge_> <louis> I just found the jankiest bug i think i've ever found in ddnet
15:46 <+bridge_> <aegisub> brb building a map that relies on this so it can never be fixed
16:03 <+bridge_> <swarfey> ~~if the tee times out after reconnecting i would rather fix that instead of adding an extra option for that~~ (i misunderstood, i thought you were talking about the ddnet "reconnect" packet)
16:57 <+bridge_> <robyt3> :monkaS:
16:57 <+bridge_> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455590519534256189/screenshot_2025-12-30_16-52-29.png?ex=695547cf&is=6953f64f&hm=c826e092a821c9124536580e53d0946158a5c2dc192a1d729f74bb888fbb8111&
16:57 <+bridge_> <linuxulator> it is coming
16:58 <+bridge_> <linuxulator> there is nowhere to run
16:58 <+bridge_> <linuxulator> there is no time to run
17:03 <+bridge_> <dreamnoon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455592126871109789/image.png?ex=6955494e&is=6953f7ce&hm=ea4f6a1ebc36ee43d2fd681c2515dde2157cb9ed215574e0d1dbd0c4648c54ae&
17:03 <+bridge_> <dreamnoon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455592127357517926/image.png?ex=6955494e&is=6953f7ce&hm=9acf0c679e7d4c5a6832f7ee17fc8f97e7a1210e54737bdad5f9da6c0c9fa295&
17:03 <+bridge_> <dreamnoon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455592128066490408/image.png?ex=6955494e&is=6953f7ce&hm=8215e7a86764193714d4ec8805f439dd8bb14e8d796926006ba44c7fb3463d0a&
17:03 <+bridge_> <dreamnoon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455592128527859884/image.png?ex=6955494f&is=6953f7cf&hm=72690bb4e02c6e50546713487b20ac378ec5803d7c340517db023f4db1b2b3eb&
17:03 <+bridge_> <linuxulator> consider banning yourself
17:04 <+bridge_> <pioooooo> @Discord Mod
17:05 <+bridge_> <bomab> i completely forgot about this
17:06 <+bridge_> <linuxulator> bad bot
17:06 <+bridge_> <DDNet> Sowwy :c
17:28 <+bridge_> <mohammadtnt477> Doood
18:35 <+bridge_> <blazu da melon> what the fish
18:35 <+bridge_> <blazu da melon> (pardon me for my vulgar language)
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> @souly bun bun
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> how to ping solly?
19:07 <+bridge_> <ChillerDragon> @soulyvevo
19:08 <+bridge_> <melon> @sollybunny ^
19:08 <+bridge_> <melon> chiller pinged bomb souly
19:08 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> wha
19:08 <+ChillerDragon> i mean solly bun bun the designer
19:08 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> 498918197475672076
19:09 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> `@sollybunny`
19:09 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> fail
19:09 <+ChillerDragon> axaxax
19:09 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> `<@ 498918197475672076>`
19:09 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> without the space
19:09 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> why is zenblock censored?
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> solly did you create a texture like this before or did i trip that? 
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/gogreen.png
19:10 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> you tripped
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> not u
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> solly bun bun
19:10 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> you may be looking for @soulyvevo
19:10 <+bridge_> <ChillerDragon> @Souly
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> solly vevo
19:10 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> you need to get your pings checked by a doctor
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> oh shit its really vevo
19:10 <+ChillerDragon> i could have guess that its like his gh
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> i pulled insta and it doesnt build anymore
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> !
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> ```cpp
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> CMake Warning (dev) at CMakeLists.txt:416 (message):
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>   Entries only present in GAME_SERVER:
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>   /home/solly/Code/ddnet/src/game/server/instagib/ddnet_db_utils/ddnet_db_utils.cpp;/home/solly/Code/ddnet/src/game/server/instagib/ddnet_db_utils/ddnet_db_utils.h
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> Call Stack (most recent call first):
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>   CMakeLists.txt:436 (set_glob)
19:11 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>   CMakeLists.txt:2972 (set_src)
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> ```
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> ```
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:3204 (add_library):
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>   Cannot find source file:
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> 
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)>     /home/solly/Code/ddnet/src/game/server/instagib/ddnet_db_utils/ddnet_db_utils.cpp
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> ```
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> i guess its asking for its removal
19:12 <+ChillerDragon> `git submodule update --init --recursive`
19:12 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> i dont want ddnet libs!
19:13 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> do you have to clone a submodule now to build insta D:
19:14 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> plz intree
19:14 <+bridge_> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455625182101377197/image.png?ex=69556817&is=69541697&hm=a718b7c414d36f21f23c78c70d7a2bd470c5d011a292c7d0a3c70a01c672db57&
19:16 <+ChillerDragon> i dont want to copy paste code to ddnet++
19:48 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> you can use `git subtree` to make it easier to copy paste code across repository
19:49 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> rust uses that to integrate clippy and rust-analyzer into the rust-lang/rust repository
20:01 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> pardoned
20:04 <+ChillerDragon> i dont see the issue with submodules
20:05 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> I wanted to offer an alternative since solly complained
20:09 <+ChillerDragon> ye solly why u complain
20:34 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> wot
20:34 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455645180119093330/image.png?ex=69557ab7&is=69542937&hm=f3bf43493815ba0bf85b4f53226313da9597f97321b946a4919268095031a8a5&
20:35 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> wot
20:35 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> 
20:35 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> it worked after clicking second time
20:35 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455645180119093330/image.png?ex=69557ab7&is=69542937&hm=f3bf43493815ba0bf85b4f53226313da9597f97321b946a4919268095031a8a5&
20:35 <+bridge_> <heinrich5991> github's quality dropping
20:50 <+bridge_> <aegisub> vibes 📈 
20:50 <+bridge_> <aegisub> quality 📉
21:04 <+bridge_> <chairn> live enshitification
21:05 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> chillerdragon: i have a vertical line at 80 cols in neovim
21:05 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455652931649929268/image.png?ex=695581ef&is=6954306f&hm=86029cb8ec1c9ea1915859e2cb645c2b962749fd519a1452810808d45d6c9de1&
21:11 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> you don't get a connection event until much later, so it is hard to determine if you should still try to connect manually
21:12 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> i would rather this option to gracefully disconnect if it times out and let users determine if they should reconnect
21:13 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> I think my flag works, I was testing in China last night where the bot gets 200 ping consistently, never happened after many reboots
21:14 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> masterserv may show connecting players though, i thought i heard smt like this
21:14 <+bridge_> <gorp_tw> then i could add that to my logic
21:19 <+ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat send pr to my neovim to add line xd
21:20 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ChillerDragon/kickstart.nvim
21:21 <+ChillerDragon> also how do you review on github without the line?
21:21 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> I have the file open locally xd
21:22 <+ChillerDragon> bro it took me 20 minutes to apply this shits
21:22 <+ChillerDragon> and u had it locally already
21:22 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> whoopsie
21:22 <+ChillerDragon> github ux for long convos is soooo bad
21:25 <+ChillerDragon> @milkeeycat i feel so bad for bloating in a 400 line example 
21:26 <+ChillerDragon> it depends on a full library and still is fat af
21:26 <+ChillerDragon> onbgy has a full client without depending on a library in 700 lines xd 
21:26 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/nobody-mb/twchatonly/blob/master/chatonly.cpp
21:27 <+bridge_> <milkeeycat> chillerdragon: add `vim.opt.colorcolumn = "80"` after https://github.com/ChillerDragon/kickstart.nvim/blob/958f9f7277d574d3ba7db991c4696648a71806ca/init.lua#L109
21:27 <+ChillerDragon> ty
21:34 <+ChillerDragon> bru half the code goes through the line
21:34 <+ChillerDragon> thats not satisfying
22:03 <+bridge_> <kebscs> copilot it vs 2026 preview is so quick
22:03 <+bridge_> <kebscs> it suggest me before i have time to think what to type
22:03 <+bridge_> <kebscs> on small project
22:03 <+bridge_> <kebscs> copilot in vs 2026 preview is so quick
22:03 <+bridge_> <kebscs> idk how it does that
22:20 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Well, intellisense was integrated to copilot, but even idk how intellisense was so advanced
22:21 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> it doesn't use any agent models, but rather it's own algorithms and learning? idk
22:21 <+bridge_> <kebscs> if it works is good 😂
22:21 <+bridge_> <kebscs> when i have to do smth on ue5, ps5, or big project it lags hard
22:21 <+bridge_> <kebscs> or doesnt work at all
22:21 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> autocorrect and edits work super well
22:22 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> not immediately, but eventually it'll provide an edit which I prefer taking
22:22 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> And yes, on Rust it's also decent.
22:22 <+bridge_> <kebscs> rust 😭
22:22 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> :cammostripes:
22:23 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> wait, ps5 development?
22:24 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> as in using a ps5 export template?
22:24 <+bridge_> <kebscs> at a job i do stuff with ps5 sdk
22:24 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> ooooh
22:24 <+bridge_> <kebscs> and its broken with intellisense, a lot of stuff is underlined red even though it shouldnt
22:24 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> I mean, if it compiles, who cares xd
22:24 <+bridge_> <kebscs> yea, but not ideal :p
22:25 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> remember, it's only not ideal if nothing is wrong
22:25 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> something has to be
22:26 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> how nightmarish is working with PS5 btw?
22:26 <+bridge_> <kebscs> the docs are very nice
22:26 <+bridge_> <kebscs> with examples
22:26 <+bridge_> <kebscs> with xbox its lot worse
22:26 <+bridge_> <kebscs> xbox is a lot worse
22:27 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> micros*ft
22:28 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> well awesome, maybe once I fully integrated Bazel into the Godot repo, then I could try messing with it's export templates
22:28 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> did you know, that almost 80% of the external thirdparty libraries have been updated last in 2014~?
22:29 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> did you know, that almost 80% of the external thirdparty libraries on Godot have been updated last in 2014~?
22:29 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> And you can just, make it so that you download the latest release of those libs through the compiler? Crazy
22:33 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> what are envelopes?
22:34 <+bridge_> <kebscs> i didnt, i never used godot 🙂
22:35 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Sadge, decent game engine tho
22:39 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Envelops are properties (such as **Position**, **Color** and **Sound**), that you can edit and use on any object in your maps.
22:39 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> On tiles, you can only change it's **Color**:
22:39 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455676789018853558/image.png?ex=69559827&is=695446a7&hm=8b337cb22de84ff25f3028628410d53b47dec5c2c133e9dc0b7593d34521d887&
22:40 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> ah, so i can get the texture a quad uses from that
22:40 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Yes, a Quad can change it's **Position** and **Color**, with those envelopes (as animation)
22:41 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> And sounds, well... you can change the sound's volume.
22:41 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Basic? Yes, but practical.
22:43 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Easy to remember, each envelope (or animation as we call it) can be assigned to a number:
22:43 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455677662214492333/image.png?ex=695598f7&is=69544777&hm=79ea5fe642db3b033b73bd2aeefc2fc2f63889e3ab35f8780aa7f7bb1ace224e&
22:44 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Such as this one, this **Position** envelope, made with [**Pos+**] has [1] assigned to it. You can use it on a Quad:
22:44 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455678078645698702/image.png?ex=6955995b&is=695447db&hm=465aba4c11926e1c6a37f02a6c5d6c1092e91028ae6457eb8d68bcf4169fd8a0&
22:46 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Clicking on the Play button next to the [HD] button will play the animation for you:
22:46 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1455678408502546529/image.png?ex=695599a9&is=69544829&hm=1f27809461517b328a2a8023d5493b3cc97ea8e7472209401e06955f24447145&
22:46 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Aaaaaand there you go, now you know everything about envelopes. It's as simple as it gets.
22:47 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> lol I'm trying to make a map render with python rn, not using the editor
22:47 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> so this is annoying already
22:47 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> :kek: ofc the coding side of envelopes are prob a nightmare
22:47 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> But you now get the gest of what it really is
22:48 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> But you now get the gest of what it really is, I hope
22:48 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Or at least, what it's used for
22:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> yeah
22:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> is it only animations or does it create the look for a quad
22:48 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> because I can't find how to get the image the quad uses
22:49 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> Sadly no position changes for individual points in a Quad, it'll move the pivot point only.
22:49 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> It can move and rotate
22:49 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> (no skew, ripperino)
22:50 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> ah, prob with shaders but idk where quads use it...
22:51 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> btw im dumb when it comes to this game's whole architexture so I'm a bad example of it xd
22:51 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> lol
22:52 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> oh im an idiot
22:52 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> the image is stored in the layer not the quad
22:53 <+bridge_> <cellegenrih> For instantiation purposes I assume...?
22:53 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> probably because each layer can only have one spritesheet
22:54 <+bridge_> <12944qwerty> egiwoh the layer.image is None wtf
23:32 <+bridge_> <patiga> None -> blank (completely white texture)