00:36 <+bridge> <Nouaa> no but meh, don't think anyone can abuse it
05:41 <+bridge> <louis> wow my git branch is so cooked
06:07 <+bridge> <louis> https://github.com/l-ouis/ddnet/commit/7f15db171c68f178c9b458dccbe79595122963b8
06:07 <+bridge> <louis> does anyone know how to remove this commit from this branch?
06:07 <+bridge> <louis> should i just undo it manually and squash all my recent changes into one commit :|
06:31 <+bridge> <totar> interactive rebase
09:55 <+bridge> <learath2> Nice
09:55 <+bridge> <learath2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454759715295723677/Screenshot_20251228_115533_GitHub.jpg?ex=69524210&is=6950f090&hm=adff7cbf0cff2cad531a05722f2d8d8d0ff57574564ab2629e5de6b7509f1ce5&
11:33 <+ChillerDragon> oh wow my ws-client, furo and chillerbot are muted 
11:33 <+ChillerDragon> gg
11:33 <+ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 sos
11:34 <+ChillerDragon> @learath2 yes u missed some1 -.-
11:34 <+ChillerDragon> o i need to auth oke i will look into it
11:56 <+bridge> <learath2> I voiced them again, also gave furo auto voice, but unless you auth you can't have auto voice
12:17 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> ChillerDragon: it'd also be nice if your bot didn't reconnect every 20 min. could you fix that?
12:18 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> it's spamming the logs and it shouldn't be hard for a server TCP connection to live longer than 20 min
12:21 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> yesterday, we had 427 lines in chat logs, of which 380 were ChillerDragon's bots joining and leaving
12:33 <+bridge> <zwelf2> Time changed from 23:30 to 12:30 tomorrow.
13:04 <+ChillerDragon> yea ik its annoying
13:04 <+ChillerDragon> but idk how to fix it -.-
13:04 <+ChillerDragon> its running on the same vps as my weechat instance which seems to be stable
13:04 <+ChillerDragon> i assume its the js irc lib i use but not sure
13:08 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> you could run a tcpdump to see who ends the connection
13:08 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> if it's the JS lib, you could potentially report a bug there
13:09 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> since it exits regularly, this should be relatively™ easy to debug
13:21 <+bridge> <robyt3> @sollybunny Can you rebase #10613 on latest master?
13:21 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10613
14:27 <+bridge> <melon> @essigautomat do you not run into the issue of alt-tabbing when opening the scoreboard and fetching the mouse? :kek:
14:28 <+bridge> <melon> currently testing scoreboard-locking once more, and the combination of tab+alt is bullying me
14:30 <+bridge> <melon> also i'm not sure if we should have disconnected players uninteractable, was there a discussion about it?
14:37 <+ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 uff sounds annoying needs a long running tcpdump and then i need to look into irc protocol and shits -.- im not sure if its worth the effort
14:37 <+ChillerDragon> but good idea i guess
14:50 <+bridge> <Assa> bound it to Mouse3 🙈
14:51 <+bridge> <Assa> Scoreboard lock PR is still under review
14:51 <+bridge> <melon> ye but i dont want to add a review if it was discussed before xd
14:52 <+bridge> <Assa> Currently disconnected players are not shown at all - making them interactable would be a followup feature
14:52 <+bridge> <Assa> and there are currently no moderator options in the scoreboard anyway
14:53 <+bridge> <melon> fair
14:54 <+bridge> <melon> i may escalate it into an issue if the PR is merged xd
14:54 <+bridge> <Assa> So, set it to milestone: Future :brownbear:
15:11 <+bridge> <learath2> LOL
15:54 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> ChillerDragon: IRC is plaintext (over TLS likely), you can send me a tcpdump
15:55 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> if you don't want to fix your bot, I could offer you a IRC proxy that I also use
15:55 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> it's not nice that you spam the IRC logs with your server
16:32 <+bridge> <kebscs> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/11484 @essigautomat
16:59 <+bridge> <melon river> high ping players gon love this
17:16 <+bridge> <thefe_110> HIII @chillerdragon what do you think about my definetly all written by myself antibot  ?? 🙂
17:16 <+bridge> <thefe_110> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454870657446969571/antibot_null.cpp?ex=6952a962&is=695157e2&hm=9009004646db3f1e5e09d64e5f5053474c721a55a4f1b92fdac244083e61a409&
17:18 <+bridge> <aegisub> much vibes
17:19 <+bridge> <qxdfox> whats a snapdetector yo
17:21 <+bridge> <thefe_110> ehhmm thats the thing that detects the snap i guess
17:21 <+bridge> <qxdfox> what
17:21 <+bridge> <qxdfox> >   g_pData->m_pfnLog("SnapDetector Antibot initialized", g_pData->m_pUser);
17:21 <+bridge> <thefe_110> see it works
17:21 <+bridge> <thefe_110> thats a code
17:21 <+furo> @thefe_110 That seems very easy to trigger. Also, the window isn't 20ms. The client doesn't send inputs every tick. So, it's >40ms actually.
17:22 <+bridge> <thefe_110> ok i will let gemini know
17:24 <+bridge> <thefe_110> updated
17:24 <+bridge> <thefe_110> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454872563007361054/antibot_null.cpp?ex=6952ab29&is=695159a9&hm=040069e22c10bf4cf82c760322dec2b350614974cb4c8fb7c665079315314939&
17:25 <+bridge> <watermelon> It does look like a code, gj
17:29 <+furo> That makes no sense at all, but yeah. Good luck!
17:31 <+bridge> <thefe_110> i know i only delay learning cpp
17:32 <+bridge> <thefe_110> but its sucking my sould and tickling my brain
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> @thefe_110 checking mouse speed seems flawed. I assume thats full of false positives. The angle can change fast depending on the mouse position.
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> @thefe_110 checking mouse speed seems flawed. I assume thats full of false positives. The angle can change fast depending on the mouse position.
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> fak
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> if its close to the center of the tee even a slow mouse move can create a big angle diff
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> but even raw mouse speed is flawed because there is legit mouse movement at max speed
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 proxy sounds good
17:42 <+ChillerDragon> which logs do you even care about and why?
17:42 <+ChillerDragon> i see no spam here https://ddnet.org/irclogs/2025-07-26.log
17:45 <+bridge> <kebscs> @chillerdragon can you not log discord messages on a github repo?
17:45 <+ChillerDragon> why not?
17:46 <+bridge> <kebscs> you yourselves dont have discord acc to not be tracked? and youre logging everything here for ai to crawl from
17:46 <+ChillerDragon> isnt that good if this valuable publicly knowledge is spread?
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> if you have a problem with it i can of course take it down
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> im just curious what the issue is
17:47 <@heinrich5991> "ai" is probably crawling discord channels, too
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> or crawling this https://ddnet.org/irclogs/2025-07-26.log
17:48 <+ChillerDragon> or zwelfs discord mirror
17:48 <+ChillerDragon> or matrix
17:48 <+bridge> <kebscs> probably should be on github then
17:48 <+ChillerDragon> what?
17:49 <+bridge> <kebscs> i wouldn't like if someone would google my name and your github pops up with my messages
17:49 <+ChillerDragon> your name being kebscs?
17:49 <+bridge> <kebscs> yes
17:49 <+ChillerDragon> so the github one is problematic because its better indexed on google?
17:49 <+bridge> <kebscs> this isnt indexed
17:50 <+bridge> <kebscs> and for github search
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> so its more a google and less an ai thing?
17:50 <+bridge> <kebscs> ai, google and github search
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> i see
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> i took https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/irclogs down for you :3
17:51 <+bridge> <kebscs> thanks
17:51 <+bridge> <kebscs> and did it need a github mirror if its on ddnet website?
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> but i recommend to shift your mindset or identity if you want to stay anonymous in a public channel
17:52 <@heinrich5991> I agree with that notion ^
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> i like the github mirror because i can send permanent links to line numbers
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> to quote people 
17:52 <+bridge> <kebscs> and not sure if repo being a personal file backup isnt against their tos
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> its tos
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> i was told by an github employee
17:53 <@heinrich5991> probably not against tos, and whatever
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> well some github employee to my face told me what i was doing is not cool
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> but this isnt about me and github tos
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> this is about kebso
17:53 <@heinrich5991> what did you do?
17:54 <+ChillerDragon> i store all data i own on github
17:54 <@heinrich5991> well, if it's a lot, I see why github would care
17:54 <+ChillerDragon> its not petabytes
17:54 <+ChillerDragon> its microsoft
17:55 <+ChillerDragon> even before it was ms owned they hard enough storage capacity already so they would never notice
17:55 <+ChillerDragon> well as soon as they care they can let me know
17:57 <+ChillerDragon> imo just reuploading a million line linux kernel repo is more spam than me tracking 3 teeworlds demos there
17:57 <+bridge> <kebscs> you can keep pretty much anything as private repo
17:57 <+bridge> <kebscs> i dont think they have a way to detect stuff, its just based on reports
17:57 <+ChillerDragon> pls dont report me then -.-
17:59 <+ChillerDragon> if i do a `sed 's/kebscs/censored/g'` would that work for you?
18:00 <+ChillerDragon> taking down the repo created some dead links for me i think
18:00 <+ChillerDragon> nothing dramatic but eh
18:00 <+furo> I don't think you should take it down. This is a public chat room after all.
18:00 <+bridge> <kebscs> yea
18:01 <+ChillerDragon> hm yea i will think about it
18:03 <+bridge> <kebscs> if its on discord then sure, if its logged outside i guess gdpr might apply
18:04 <+ChillerDragon> you are not only on discord you are also on irc and matrix
18:04 <+ChillerDragon> and irc has been logged and publicly archived for quite some time already
18:05 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> I'm not sure how GDPR applies here
18:05 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> can you elaborate?
18:06 <+bridge> <kebscs> i think you have to acknowledge users that you store their data
18:06 <+bridge> <kebscs> smth like that
18:07 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> @kebscs your messages are saved on github
18:07 <+bridge> <milkeeycat> now you know it
18:07 <+ChillerDragon> lawyer catto
18:08 <+bridge> <kebscs> they were before you told me that ❗
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> that is done in the channel description
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> 
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> ```
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> Development discussion. Logged to https://ddnet.org/irclogs/
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> Connected with DDNet's IRC channel, Matrix room and GitHub repositories —
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> IRC: #ddnet on Quakenet |
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> Matrix: #ddnet-developer:matrix.org
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> GitHub: https://github.com/ddnet
18:08 <+bridge> <melon> ```
18:08 <+bridge> <kebscs> alr
18:09 <+ChillerDragon> ez i can claim that "github repositories" refers to mine
18:09 <+bridge> <kebscs> logged on ddnet irclogs tho not github mirror :kek:
18:09 <+bridge> <melon> https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-bottle-yellow-emoji-guy-gif-4117361560120345601
18:10 <+ChillerDragon> my weechat client also logged the messages onto my disk
18:10 <+ChillerDragon> is that also illegal collection?
18:11 <+bridge> <kebscs> Idk :kek:
18:36 <+ChillerDragon> heinrich i sent u some nudes in dm
18:37 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> 👀eyes👀eyes👀eyes👀eyes👀eyes
18:37 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> may have copied that wrong, fuck it
18:37 <+bridge> <melon> in germany we call that belästigung am arbeitsplatz, please do not
18:42 <@heinrich5991> I'm investigating :)
18:43 <+ChillerDragon> pog
18:43 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> it's probably a default tee
18:43 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> ok but what if
18:43 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> twinbop 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
18:43 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> sorry got hacked
18:43 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> nah ts is crazy
18:44 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> I fully agree Typescript is crazy
18:44 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> u might be the funniest confused black cat in the world
18:44 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> mtpewo
18:44 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> meow*
18:46 <@heinrich5991> ChillerDragon: which IRC lib are you using?
18:52 <+ChillerDragon> mazrix i think
18:53 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/discord-irc/irc-websockets/blob/711156057de23138bd82c359321f705a486cc976/package.json#L31
18:53 <+ChillerDragon> here is the code btw
18:53 <+ChillerDragon> probably me using the lib wrong :D
18:54 <+ChillerDragon> this is not being hit btw 
18:54 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/discord-irc/irc-websockets/blob/711156057de23138bd82c359321f705a486cc976/src/irc.ts#L64
19:01 <@heinrich5991> so according to the package dump, it's your server explicitly closing the connection
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> yea thats what it also says in the log right
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> EOF from client
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> which log even gets spammed for you and why do you care?
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> for me its bad because i actually use irc sometimes so it looks ugly and in webchat i also lose messages from discord without noticing
19:06 <+ChillerDragon> but why is it bad for you?
19:12 <+bridge> <Brokecdx-> Is gores any different to ddnets source? Not much right?
19:12 <@Learath2> It definitely makes my weechat look like ass
19:12 <@Learath2> Have you considered fixing your bot?
19:17 <+bridge> <watermelon> I think @avolicious' new version of Gores is pretty close to current ddnet
19:19 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> ChillerDragon: the chat log. IRC clients show joins and leaves
19:24 <+bridge> <Brokecdx-> yeah thought so, it is identical to ddrace except weak/strong hook but thats not an issue, do you know how to get gCTF, iCTF, openFNG src?
19:44 <+ChillerDragon> but heinrich which chat log? you mean the one in your client?
19:44 <+ChillerDragon> you dont even use irc so you shouldnt see it
19:44 <+bridge> <totar> is this true? I thought the kog source couldn't be further from ddnets
19:44 <+bridge> <totar> since I last heard at least
19:45 <+bridge> <totar> how "new" is the new version?
19:46 <+ChillerDragon> even the brand new beta servers dont have heinrich hammer physics
19:47 <+ChillerDragon> avo once said he ripped out quite a few dependencies to build a small container image
19:47 <+ChillerDragon> where the gameserver had no mysql dependencies
19:49 <+ChillerDragon> @learath2 its only discord users complaining about an irc log i dont get it xd
19:49 <+ChillerDragon> i would say its pretty common for irc to have the reconnect spam
19:49 <+ChillerDragon> name me one channel that doesnt have it
19:50 <+ChillerDragon> ofc it would be nice to fix the bot but idk how
19:50 <+bridge> <totar> what? isn't that patch like 5 years old? they definitely have more recent physics than that
19:50 <+ChillerDragon> maybe they intentionally never merged it
19:50 <+bridge> <totar> I'm also pretty sure I've done that on kog
19:51 <+ChillerDragon> nope
19:51 <+bridge> <totar> are you sure it wasn't removed intentionally like ~1 year ago?
19:51 <+ChillerDragon> i assume it was intentional because hammering on boats is quite common
19:51 <+bridge> <totar> when the laser unfreeze changed?
19:51 <+ChillerDragon> they would always explode with the new heinrich hammer
19:52 <+ChillerDragon> @totar i didnt mean it as a age indicator but as a difference indicator
19:52 <+ChillerDragon> idk why @Brokecdx- asked in the first place but i find gameplay relevant physics differences note worthy
19:54 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta this has gctf, ictf and fng @Brokecdx-
20:09 <+bridge> <blazu da melon> DDNET INSTA MENTIONED 🫡 BEST MOD EVER 🫡
20:14 <+ChillerDragon> i would like to discuss https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4338 again
20:15 <+ChillerDragon> i think its nuts that we use magic number offsets that might change and deen did not even explain why
20:15 <+ChillerDragon> lerato only said "performance" but computers are fast and this happens in the worker thread anyways so who cares?
20:17 <@heinrich5991> I don't think we have a problem there
20:17 <@heinrich5991> "magic numbers" are indices here
20:17 <+ChillerDragon> but it should be column names
20:17 <@heinrich5991> I don't remember us having bugs in relationn to that
20:17 <+ChillerDragon> i also never had a bug with that
20:17 <+ChillerDragon> its just not nice code
20:17 <+ChillerDragon> we alse improved readability in other cases
20:18 <+ChillerDragon> i dont see why we wouldnt do it there
20:18 <@heinrich5991> O(n) code isn't nice. I think the code is currently quite clear /shrug
20:18 <+ChillerDragon> i need to think if it starts at 0 or 1 every time -.-
20:20 <+ChillerDragon> once i even started to doubt that the sql query statement column order is stronger than the order in which it was defined in the table
20:20 <@heinrich5991> query must be stronger since you can have multiple tables and derived values
20:21 <+ChillerDragon> yes otherwise everything breaks but i had a bug and it was super weird idk was long time ago 
20:21 <+ChillerDragon> you have to say tho that this code is clearer `pSqlServer->GetFloat("Time");` than this `pSqlServer->GetFloat(1);`
20:22 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> @chillerdragon can you run this
20:22 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> ```sh
20:22 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> gh repo list ChillerDragon --limit 1000 --json diskUsage --jq '.[].diskUsage' | awk '{s+=$1} END { if (s>=1024*1024) printf "Total: %.2f GiB\n", s/1024/1024; else printf "Total: %.2f MiB\n", s/1024 }'
20:22 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> ```
20:22 <+ChillerDragon> arent our chat commands also O(n) and they are even blocking the main thread
20:22 <+ChillerDragon> solly does that even cover orgs?
20:22 <+ChillerDragon> `Total: 49.16 GiB`
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> it doesnt
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and jesus christ
20:23 <@heinrich5991> oof
20:23 <+ChillerDragon> thats only my user
20:23 <+bridge> <melon> ._.
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> im at 8
20:23 <+ChillerDragon> i have most in orgs
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> youre public is 9
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> your public is 9
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> so you have 40 of private
20:23 <+bridge> <melon> i'm at 5.7Gb xd
20:23 <+bridge> <melon> i'd assume 4gb are nixpkgs atp
20:23 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i thought nixpkgs used branches
20:24 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> its time to use codeberg Now
20:24 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> does it count forks as full repositories?
20:24 <+ChillerDragon> codeberg is pog
20:24 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> yis
20:24 <+bridge> <melon> i used codeberg for a long time (mostly because of Scrumplex) - and just mirrored my repos over to github for contributions xd
20:24 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> please don't move your personal repositories to codeberg, ChillerDragon
20:24 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> (holdon lemme check)
20:24 <+ChillerDragon> ye ik
20:25 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> sourcehut is also quite nice
20:25 <+ChillerDragon> codeberg is not microsoft datawarehouse
20:25 <+ChillerDragon> codeberg cant even hold a single ddnet repo
20:25 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> it probably can?
20:25 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> why not?
20:25 <+ChillerDragon> it can
20:25 <+ChillerDragon> but it doesnt want you to do it
20:25 <+bridge> <melon> pretty sure it holds ddnet repos, it just doesnt allow you to set it private
20:25 <+ChillerDragon> shows a big warning banner
20:25 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> the ddnet repo says 350 for me
20:26 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i dunno how history is counted
20:26 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> my forked ddnet repo says 350 for me
20:26 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> my forked ddnet repo says 350
20:26 <+ChillerDragon> heinrich dont get distracted!
20:26 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> my forked ddnet repo says 350MiB
20:26 <+ChillerDragon> O(n) is fine we do it in other places too
20:27 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> git must store it more effeciently because i did measure my on disk sizes a while ago for the readme
20:27 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> probably history entries are just syslinks to the ones on ddnet
20:28 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> or refcounting or cow or the gh filesystem thing they have
20:28 <+ChillerDragon> oh looks like the codeberg warning is gone maybe they got more space nowerdays
20:28 <+ChillerDragon> but they do have a fair point
20:28 <@heinrich5991> I wouldn't merge a PR moving command lookup from O(1) to O(n)
20:28 <+ChillerDragon> and i also find it weird that if you build a smol 10line diff server mod you still have a codebase with 22k commits full of ddnet bloat
20:29 <+ChillerDragon> thats why i recently started to experient building server mods without having a fork of the entire ddnet code base in the repo
20:29 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> oh i thought it was worse
20:29 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454919190648459317/image.png?ex=6952d696&is=69518516&hm=8d0c9e7b9e8703ce033258d719f9fb93c9a6cf51a70eb7628320d0abd2892738&
20:29 <+ChillerDragon> there is something pleasing about having a git repo that implements a simple mod that does not contain the ENTIRE huge ddnet code base
20:30 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> submodule though?
20:30 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> then u can just clone and run
20:30 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> then u can just clone and build
20:30 <+ChillerDragon> yea
20:30 <+ChillerDragon> my idea was that for example two mods dont need two entire copies of ddnet
20:30 <+ChillerDragon> but just share one
20:31 <+ChillerDragon> and also when sharing the code with others you just pass around your actual changes and not always the entire ddnet source
20:31 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> what you could do is make it a library
20:31 <+ChillerDragon> make what a library?
20:31 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> the gamemode
20:32 <+ChillerDragon> sounds hard
20:32 <+ChillerDragon> i wanted it to be in the source tree in the end
20:32 <+ChillerDragon> so my lsp finds all the ddnet types and so on
20:33 <+ChillerDragon> this is my current draft it worked pretty well so far https://github.com/ddnet-insta/external_gamemode_sample
20:33 <+ChillerDragon> 0 diff in the base code needed
20:33 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454920215073652736/image.png?ex=6952d78a&is=6951860a&hm=3c5009ac7e95cdbe51c98e010b7b4a0b7eb22ce3bb25bb94ee08f24f5c7387df&
20:33 <+ChillerDragon> codeberg friendly :)
20:34 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> i still dont know why hein said no codeberg
20:34 <+ChillerDragon> its a valid point
20:34 <+ChillerDragon> codeberg isnt a huge gazillion dollar us evilcorp company 
20:34 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> doesnt have a controversey section on wikipedia
20:34 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> isn't that like, why you should use it and not why you shouldn't
20:34 <+ChillerDragon> its smol german non profit running on a rasperry pi in someone broke dudes garage
20:35 <+ChillerDragon> ofc codeberg using is nice
20:35 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeberg
20:35 <+ChillerDragon> but dumping 40gb there is not nice
20:35 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454920749138837514/image.png?ex=6952d809&is=69518689&hm=b3b6c8f0e8cdc81c30ac97154f6573603a7136f3fd1264dbffb412c520b63f46&
20:35 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> whaaa
20:35 <+ChillerDragon> as i said i already feel bad dumping my ddnet forks there
20:35 <+ChillerDragon> but i gotta back them up there in case github bans my account
20:36 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454920922342494381/image.png?ex=6952d833&is=695186b3&hm=9826ff29805b4d23bde249aaa83eb22be5c33f37e5cd9f7d38eca08a27e29841&
20:36 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> idk
20:36 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> seems fine to me
20:36 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i have never been a victim of github moderation
20:36 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> so it will never happen to me
20:36 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> sourcehut is even smaller
20:36 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> using these tiny ones are a bit scary
20:36 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> because i know github wont delete my data
20:37 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> https://sourcehut.org/alpha-details/ payment will be required later :/
20:37 <+ChillerDragon> thats where you are wrong solly
20:37 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and hasnt for the past 5 years
20:37 <+ChillerDragon> github might have less of a risk of accidentally losing your data
20:37 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and hasnt for the past 5 years (minus me fucking up git)
20:37 <+ChillerDragon> but there is a very real chance of them banning your account
20:38 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> has github done random banning things
20:38 <+ChillerDragon> and then you need to use some GDPR letters to get your code back and you will get it printed on paper or some shit xd
20:38 <+ChillerDragon> ofc
20:38 <+ChillerDragon> github does random bans like any big site
20:38 <+ChillerDragon> remember the swarfey incident?
20:39 <+ChillerDragon> i already got like 5 github accounts banned
20:39 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> why was swarfey banned
20:39 <+ChillerDragon> they dont tell you
20:39 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> oh that's cool
20:39 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> so how do you know how to get unbanned then
20:39 <+ChillerDragon> he assumes because he played around too much in some cloud env
20:39 <+ChillerDragon> forgot the name
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> workspaces?
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> dev space?
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> idk
20:40 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> yeah i see
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> you get unbanned by contacting support
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> i managed to get 1 account unbanned but it took quite some time
20:40 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> what happened with gitlab
20:40 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> workspaces
20:40 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> but ive done everything in a workspace
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> gitlab design is sadly horribly ugly
20:40 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> does anyone actually use the hosted one
20:40 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> but its all limited by compute hours and gbhrs
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> also its not as free as codeberg
20:40 <+bridge> <melon> `My work is done; I await feedback.`
20:40 <+bridge> <melon> 
20:40 <+bridge> <melon> gemini is so cute sometimes
20:40 <+bridge> <melon> i simply asked it to make me a todo list :kekw:
20:40 <+ChillerDragon> gitlab is a bit corporaty
20:40 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> ive only ever seen self-hosted gitlab
20:41 <+ChillerDragon> imo codeberg is cooler than gitlab
20:41 <+ChillerDragon> but tbh i use gitlab more xd
20:41 <+bridge> <melon> such a cutie patootie
20:41 <+bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454922298258886677/image.png?ex=6952d97b&is=695187fb&hm=c0b42b4f834afc62aeb67b14945efd375126c133bd02680d1760d4f487eb216f&
20:42 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> codespaces!
20:42 <+ChillerDragon> bro wrote todo app
20:42 <+bridge> <melon> no i just love to loose track, so i use gemini to write my gibberish into a formatted todo list to reference later xd
20:42 <+bridge> <melon> gemini cli is pretty good for these things
20:43 <+ChillerDragon> vibe melon
20:44 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> github used to have a good ui for codespace usage
20:45 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454923246133575680/image.png?ex=6952da5d&is=695188dd&hm=6c376066b08163f9551fb6e9568e3916f1dfee048641f0b1f4a834652f47c69f&
20:48 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> Any1 have a 50tps demo lying around
20:48 <+ChillerDragon> bro just create one xd
20:48 <+ChillerDragon> takes 1s
20:48 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> im laaazy
20:48 <+ChillerDragon> its less work than downloading one
20:48 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i need to nolife kog
20:49 <+ChillerDragon> ddnet://88.198.96.203:8307
20:49 <+ChillerDragon> here link for high bandwith server
20:54 <+bridge> <melon> @sollybunny
20:54 <+bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454925495530426482/chillerdmeo.demo?ex=6952dc75&is=69518af5&hm=8e0a9cd4cef99f9cf6893b5861c2eac4eee47f855604b1936c7422968667ca78&
20:54 <+ChillerDragon> ez rcon password leak
20:55 <+bridge> <melon> i really hope i authed after that
20:55 <+bridge> <melon> :kek:
21:00 <+ChillerDragon> it should not be in the demo i think
21:00 <+ChillerDragon> otherwise it would be nice social engineering credential farm opportunity
21:00 <+ChillerDragon> image :D
21:00 <+ChillerDragon> imagine* aduhaihod
21:06 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> `git worktree` @chillerdragon
21:06 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> if you don't wnt to have the ddnet/teeworlds repository more than once
21:06 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> on your hdd
21:07 <+ChillerDragon> hm
21:07 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> no need for history rewriting
21:07 <+ChillerDragon> well im not rewriting history
21:07 <+ChillerDragon> i also like multiple repos and folders
21:07 <+ChillerDragon> i just want them to be more about the actual mod and less about ddnet
21:08 <+ChillerDragon> also git worktree doesnt help with cloud disk space limits
21:08 <+ChillerDragon> but i am planning to look into git worktree for build times
21:09 <+ChillerDragon> because thats a real pain i have and you said its sovled with git worktrees
21:13 <@heinrich5991> does the websocket connection maybe break?
21:13 <@heinrich5991> that explicitly disconnects the IRC connection
21:14 <+ChillerDragon> but it also happens when im not online i think
21:14 <+ChillerDragon> i dont have the website open all day
21:14 <+ChillerDragon> it possibly breaks but that should be more rare
21:15 <+ChillerDragon> and i have the same issue with chillerbot
21:15 <+ChillerDragon> that one runs on a raspberry pi and uses no websockets at all
21:15 <+ChillerDragon> sometimes it doesnt connect at all for days
21:15 <+ChillerDragon> the entire thing is a huge blackbox for me
21:17 <@heinrich5991> I don't get the architecture yet
21:17 <@heinrich5991> the ws-client thing doesn't run the src/index.ts in the repo you sent?
21:18 <+ChillerDragon> it does run there
21:18 <+ChillerDragon> the links i sent you are the ws-client
21:18 <+ChillerDragon> this is the backend https://github.com/discord-irc/irc-websockets
21:19 <+ChillerDragon> it has the irc client and a websocket and http api
21:19 <+ChillerDragon> this is the frontend that just sends websockets and http to the backend https://github.com/discord-irc/discord-irc it should not be relevant here at all
21:20 <@heinrich5991> so for ws-client, who initiates the websocket connection?
21:20 <+ChillerDragon> uh
21:20 <+ChillerDragon> i guess the frontend
21:20 <+ChillerDragon> like when you go to https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/ it establishes the websocket connection
21:27 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> thank u
21:28 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i didnt spend my time wisely t0 shanangns
21:43 <+bridge> <robyt3> @sollybunny Did you lose changes during the rebase of #10613? :monkaS:
21:43 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10613
21:44 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> HOW
21:45 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> IS THIS PSOSIBLE
21:45 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> it said clean rebase
21:45 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i hate programming
21:45 <+bridge> <robyt3> But https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/3ef495f48a80515c1e1cbd90e494c100b0671c85 and https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/a35b101afe8864e8b61ad9730dc12d5083026c03 are not the same changes compared to master
21:46 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i did git pull when i checked out the branch and it.. said up to date
21:46 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> which isnt right
21:47 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> where was ijt pulling from for that to happen?
21:47 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> wait in 25!?
21:47 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> it works on my machine
21:47 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> ill start from abc188600c0e0867b55592ee0984eb1e4cdda870 again
21:48 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> my ddnet master was 25 commits out of date aswell
21:50 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i dont actually remember which machine i made abc188600c0e0867b55592ee0984eb1e4cdda870 on
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> bun bun D: - if you clean rebase you're putting your commits on top of a new base which creates a NEW commit.
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> git pull compared itself to its locally outdated master
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> when you rebased, it rebased onto your old local master
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> the commit got a new hash because you rewrote history
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> 
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git fetch origin`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git checkout master`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git pull origin master`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git checkout speed_up_demo_player`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git rebase origin/master`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> bun bun D: - if you clean rebase you're putting your commits on top of a new base which creates a new commit.
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> git pull compared itself to its locally outdated master
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> when you rebased, it rebased onto your old local master
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> the commit got a new hash because you rewrote history
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> 
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git fetch origin`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git checkout master`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git pull origin master`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git checkout speed_up_demo_player`
21:51 <+bridge> <melon> `git rebase origin/master`
21:55 <+ChillerDragon> you can also just leave the local master oldge
21:56 <+ChillerDragon> `git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master`
21:56 <+bridge> <melon> keeping your local master old creates issues like the one above tho xd
21:57 <+ChillerDragon> just wanted to mention that because i for the longest time thought you need some kind of branch for the upstream
21:57 <+ChillerDragon> but u dont
21:58 <+bridge> <melon> git is really really powerful, we're not even scratching the surface with something like an interactive rebase xd
22:07 <+bridge> <robyt3> Skipping back in 50 tps demos doesn't work with the current state. You probably need the `WantedTick <= m_Info.m_Info.m_CurrentTick` from 3ef495f48a80515c1e1cbd90e494c100b0671c85
22:08 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> AAAAAAAAAAAA
22:08 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> you can just rebase raw
22:09 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i was doing git rebase HEAD~2 --onto ddnet/master
22:09 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i was doing `git rebase HEAD~2 --onto ddnet/master`
22:09 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i dont have a branch checked out to ddnet/msater
22:09 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> my master branch is sollybunny/master
22:10 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> so this rebase is also bad?
22:10 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454944743489405030/image.png?ex=6952ee62&is=69519ce2&hm=1bac4d29de748b5f06674347282bedc90f9313c0a371501ae6a8e95560705661&
22:12 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> 3ef shows this
22:12 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454945209434636348/image.png?ex=6952eed1&is=69519d51&hm=1873e88a867209e9ddd3079a4bf16dac09c9b2b56c653e9c73495f3a1ac4e87f&
22:12 <+bridge> <robyt3> The new commit here had more comments but is broken compared to the old one
22:13 <+bridge> <robyt3> 3ef495f48a80515c1e1cbd90e494c100b0671c85 works for me
22:13 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and has <=?
22:13 <+bridge> <robyt3> Yes
22:13 <+bridge> <robyt3> Try to add that to the current code
22:13 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> WHATTT
22:13 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454945415550992556/image.png?ex=6952ef02&is=69519d82&hm=07e890f62378edeb754dd147e2440fa3fb507339a5f0f8743f10f47e03452b65&
22:13 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> why is it showing me a different one!?!?!?
22:13 <+bridge> <melon> :monkalaugh:
22:14 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i reset to 3ef and the git visual thing plugin is showing 3d0!?!?
22:14 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> BECAUSE ITS ORIGIN/
22:14 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> why does auto not do the local one!?
22:14 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454945700423930049/image.png?ex=6952ef46&is=69519dc6&hm=0aad85b45a9caf2d0c568b72a9c3af7e7c58783281fcfde5265464d73fcb3043&
22:14 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> like what why is this not just wherever you are
22:15 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> BECAUSE ITS ALSO SHOWING OTHER ITEMS WHICH ARENT SELECTED
22:15 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454945861703303168/image.png?ex=6952ef6d&is=69519ded&hm=43b0ff7c223f330e38c758607742fdaef10d8ac47ece43599ed4905648638604&
22:15 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> AND ITS DOWN HEREEEEE
22:15 <+bridge> <melon> stop using gui for git actions :kek:
22:15 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i didnt know this was a possible issue
22:16 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> uhmm its faster when it works
22:16 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> if you use git ui ur asking for problems imo
22:16 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> same as git for the things i know how to do
22:17 <+bridge> <robyt3> The only thing that GUI is faster for is staging line-by-line, which you can't do in command line
22:17 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> git shouts loudly about everything that happens when you do any command, UIs all disparately ignore different things for "convenience"
22:17 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> leading to issues like this
22:17 <+bridge> <melon> i mean i would fix it for you but i neither have force-push rights on your branch nor am i a maintainer to edit PR's
22:17 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> this isnt an something was ignored issue
22:17 <+bridge> <melon> bully Roby into doing it for you :toptri:
22:17 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> this is a skill issue i must overcome
22:17 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> but why didnt rebase work
22:17 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> shouldve worked regardless given the top 2 commits are 3ef and the other one
22:18 <+bridge> <melon> isn't that the main reason Linus despites github? they strip away so much information
22:18 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> ima do rebase just raw now now that i know you can
22:18 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454946553646026812/image.png?ex=6952f011&is=69519e91&hm=aab55063f83622bdc5bd308669642ca98cc4f02db09a565912a9259ded35d473&
22:18 <+bridge> <robyt3> Just amend the current commit with the `<=` change, that also works
22:18 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and thats the one with extra comments
22:18 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and i need to add another
22:18 <+bridge> <robyt3> yeah
22:18 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> i dont know how this happened
22:19 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> so from a35b101afe8864e8b61ad9730dc12d5083026c03 add <= add comment force push
22:19 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> and also rebase the extra 25 commits
22:19 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> idk really i also have never done a rebase or squash in my life
22:19 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> if you make me merge something locally in a project i will just make a new branch and copy paste all the code
22:20 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> after my capstone project in college i hope to never work on something liek that again
22:25 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> @blaiszephyr the only things i use gui for is commiting, trivial pushing/pulling (no extra branches) and seeing where i am and what changes
22:25 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> which isnt just "only" thats most things
22:25 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> which isnt just "only" thats most things i do
22:25 <+bridge> <sonic (Solly)> lmao i use gui for git, but terminal for file mgr
22:30 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> do you guys want to see my extremely bad code for updating a leaderboard
22:31 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> please say no
22:38 <+ChillerDragon> no
22:39 <+ChillerDragon> xd
22:41 <+bridge> <gorp_tw> thank goid
22:51 <+bridge> <epicvitya> Pretty stable
22:51 <+bridge> <epicvitya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1454954933286600911/IMG_3586.jpg?ex=6952f7df&is=6951a65f&hm=6bb21126b9aa845cb17134cced0025e63ef63b288620504599974b27a13a71e3&