01:02 < bridge> what do u use for collision? 01:03 < bridge> not shore if its better or worse with particles 01:03 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416559861008826510/switch_2025-09-13_18-59-38.mp4?ex=68c749ad&is=68c5f82d&hm=3fd384cb682735fde9b175bf838b8c5dba0000a49bbb16e0bb3845e38683d530& 01:03 < bridge> OH MY GOD WHAT 01:03 < bridge> THAT'S SO COOL???? 01:03 < bridge> looks perfect to me 01:03 < bridge> they almost feel too modern xd but im too lazy to change it 01:04 < bridge> i tink have to move it out of general group though cause they don't fully move during the hammers 01:04 < bridge> are the particfles server or client side 01:04 < bridge> are the particles server or client side 01:04 < bridge> client side 01:04 < bridge> maybe randomize them a bit 01:05 < bridge> cause they look way too linear 01:05 < bridge> which is awesome in my opinion 01:05 < bridge> i think it looksf ine, but im not sure how the behaviour of turning on and off works 01:05 < bridge> the right one is an alternating switch other two do what their color does 01:08 < bridge> wtf are particles tick dependent xd 01:09 < bridge> Yo 01:09 < bridge> How can I see a server's statistics 01:09 < bridge> I remember there being a website for that 01:23 < bridge> Looks so nice 01:23 < bridge> I was sceptical about the particles but this is nice 01:25 < bridge> for some reason they dont have the same distance each time 01:25 < bridge> idk why i set flowaffected and collision to false 01:26 < bridge> flow haha nice joke 01:27 < bridge> hm 01:55 < bridge> Try with high bandwidth 01:55 < bridge> It might be a 25tps thing 02:01 < bridge> oh true i'll check 02:14 < bridge> it would be so cool if u were able to make whole platforms that toggle along these 02:14 < bridge> so they can also turn on and off visual layers as well 02:18 < bridge> thats a lot harder 🫡 but would be cool yea 02:18 < bridge> well true lol 02:53 < bridge> random positions for the particles would make it better 02:56 < bridge> hey that's waht I said :C 03:15 < bridge> Uh so guys 03:18 < bridge> All fngs servers are down if you join one you get banned for 3000 minutes + theres like a new cheat that makes you a moderator or sum like that cause ive been playing earlier today and there were cheaters that had like auto laser and shi like that on. When you tried to kick them it would say something like you cant kick a moderator 03:18 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416593993415917651/ScreenRecording_09-14-2025_03-16-34_1.mov?ex=68c76977&is=68c617f7&hm=64cc0295739382f59017226327c5442cb9384b6037118e66801e426aedb3f5cb& 05:25 < bridge> D: 05:28 < bridge> @noketchup do u know anything 05:28 < bridge> about this? 05:28 < bridge> @noketchup do u know anything about this? 05:53 < bridge> It's not really fast, patiga has a fast one 11:06 < ws-client> **** @z2basti I can not reproduce. I can still join "all" fng servers and there are no cheaters. Which client do you use? And which servers exactly did you connect to? 11:14 < bridge> the last one is actually really important, cuz if it's like Noby's fng, then Noby should really pay attention to it 12:01 < bridge> today i had to fix a bug to fix a bug 12:01 < bridge> i had a bug in the page fault and panic handler 12:01 < bridge> which occurred when bug 2 happened 12:01 < bridge> page fault was recursively faulting xd 12:04 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416726385145282673/image.png?ex=68c7e4c3&is=68c69343&hm=72a25acd2c38996a003fd1bf883f0a5342f9f65310ae500f552f83ac7c05d27a& 12:04 < bridge> can spawn programs loaded from fs now 12:05 < bridge> when dev in own os? 12:19 < bridge> i dont have a editor 12:19 < bridge> xd 12:19 < bridge> nor compiler nor lot of things 12:33 < bridge> time to debug 🙁 I played with this for months now, never had it crash 12:35 < bridge> Nah I must be fucking stupid 12:35 < bridge> ``` 12:35 < bridge> if(Env == -1) 12:35 < bridge> return m_EnvelopeExtremaItemNone; // No envelope just means no movement 12:35 < bridge> else if(Env < -1 || Env > (int)m_vEnvelopeExtrema.size()) 12:35 < bridge> return m_EnvelopeExtremaItemInvalid; 12:35 < bridge> return m_vEnvelopeExtrema[Env]; 12:35 < bridge> ``` 12:35 < bridge> 12:35 < bridge> Spot the error 12:35 < bridge> >= 12:36 < bridge> >= ? 12:36 < bridge> >= 12:37 < bridge> the other thing is, the map contains quads with an env, but no envs 12:54 < ws-client> **** @Assa heinrich once told me to capitalize the first letter of the commit. Everyone still seems to stick to it. Except you <:justatest:572499997178986510> 12:54 < ws-client> **** oh and dobry xd 12:54 < ws-client> **** but he is robyte so it doesnt count 12:54 < bridge> I do, but this was a quick hotfix 12:55 < bridge> i normally do : 12:55 < ws-client> **** but we dont do that here xd 12:55 < bridge> but I do that here 12:56 < ws-client> **** i guess robi does too 12:56 < ws-client> **** pure chaos 12:56 < bridge> put it in the contrib.md 12:56 < bridge> @chillerdragon where do i put it 12:56 < bridge> its out of order whereever i do 12:57 < ws-client> **** @Solly (bun bun) idc where too much. Just pick something that feels right. But try to at least put it somewhere sameish in header and source as far as the current mess allows 12:57 < ws-client> **** @Assa did you introduce the bug fixed in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10915 ? 12:57 < bridge> @chillerdragon can you review the 1 line PR? I am very confident you can do that 12:57 < bridge> yes 🙁 12:57 < ws-client> **** ok nice 12:57 < bridge> okay is done 12:58 < bridge> not nice, it's was a wrong invalid behavior check, I am afraid of other maps 12:59 < bridge> forgot to push 12:59 < bridge> is done now 12:59 < bridge> x-x 12:59 < ws-client> **** No if its your code and your bug you are the code owner and you can do whatever you want with it. Makes the review easy because you break nobody elses hidden agenda burried in the code. 12:59 < ws-client> **** thats why its "nice" @Assa xd 13:01 < bridge> I am only mad about myself there, such a stupid bug, now I have 3 bugs on my neck 🙁 13:36 < bridge> Does anyone have a ready-made Anti TAS system code? 13:39 < ws-client> **** @rehoboamrulit doubt. Which servers are yours? 13:41 < ws-client> **** @learath2 i am sad my prs are not being merged. Can you send some reviews or hire more reviewers please. 13:42 < bridge> Anything urgent? 13:42 < ws-client> **** i would like to get the rcon refactor in 13:42 < ws-client> **** i tried to split it into atomic easy and fast to merge prs 13:43 < ws-client> **** but all of them stay untouched for weeks and are now full of conflicts so now when i have time to work on the rcon stuff i can not continue 13:46 < bridge> Are you set on the design part of the rcon stuff now? 13:46 < ws-client> **** no 13:46 < ws-client> **** nobody commented on it 13:47 < ws-client> **** but i guess i am fine with our latest proposal 13:47 < bridge> why does the current build pipeline take almost an hour? 13:47 < ws-client> **** but there are some prs that just make working on it easier 13:47 < ws-client> **** @Assa oh that ._. also on my todo 13:47 < ws-client> **** you can also do it :p 13:47 < ws-client> **** build a Dockerfile and push it to gh as a build base 13:48 < bridge> no I mean, previously it was like 20-30 minutes 13:48 < ws-client> **** we should be able to get a huuuge performance increase w that 13:48 < ws-client> **** at least it still finishes @Assa xd my ddnet++ does not pass anymore because the runners do not have enough ram 13:48 < bridge> If you gimme some pr numbers I can take a look 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10892 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10914 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10836 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10827 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10813 13:49 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10793 13:50 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10773 13:50 < bridge> stop posting all your 23 PRs 13:50 < ws-client> **** only the relevant ones he asked for 13:50 < bridge> I also have a list of PRs ... 13:51 < ws-client> **** well but your not leratos bff 13:52 < ws-client> **** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10732 this i assume? 13:52 < ws-client> **** your prs are just too hard 13:53 < bridge> a few more 13:53 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416753766467768370/Unbenannt.png?ex=68c7fe43&is=68c6acc3&hm=fdc08102c96550ef55ba4d3f05d33579b8c5f877bc1774236e05ee6e425f66ae& 13:54 < ws-client> **** u need all of them for something? -.- 13:54 < bridge> some of them are exlcuding each other, either A or B, like with mapitems or envelope sync 13:54 < ws-client> **** yeye 13:55 < bridge> and the ivec thing is just future proofing 15:02 < ws-client> **** @ByFox u here? 15:03 < ws-client> **** @byfox * 15:03 < bridge> a? 15:03 < ws-client> **** nice 15:04 < ws-client> **** i am working on credits 15:04 < ws-client> **** did you look at kaizo insta for foot? 15:04 < ws-client> **** or even take parts of the code? 15:04 < bridge> I watched but didn't use his version 15:04 < ws-client> **** okay so no credit i guess 15:05 < ws-client> **** i credit you as "ByFox" ok? 15:05 < bridge> I liked how football is made in kaizo-insta, it is convenient, but there are a lot of bugs that take longer to fix 15:06 < ws-client> **** okay yes i just want to make sure that if we took anything from kz that we credit him and his project 15:06 < bridge> Specify as ByFox, I am already specified somewhere 15:06 < ws-client> **** yes 15:06 < ws-client> **** you are 15:06 < bridge> Specify as ByFox, I am already listed as such somewhere 15:07 < bridge> xd 15:32 < bridge> K Gores 15:32 < bridge> I have already tried to implement it, and even implemented it , but it interfered with legitimate players. 15:32 < bridge> The anti-shuffle system should sort of push the player back 15:52 < ws-client> **** @rehoboamrulit do you have a lot of cheaters there? oO 16:02 < bridge> yes 16:06 < bridge> Oh interesting. How do you know? @rehoboamrulit 16:22 < bridge> i found a consistent crash in clangd! 16:22 < bridge> https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/158485 16:32 < bridge> Records on maps 16:54 < bridge> why is it itallic 16:55 < bridge> lol the underscores, but why the second 16:55 < bridge> randomness 17:19 < bridge> I have _an 17:19 < bridge> idea_ why 17:30 < bridge> dsa _test _dsadsa_ 17:30 < bridge> it always takes the last 17:30 < bridge> That is an interesting parsing direction 17:40 < bridge> @blaiszephyr updated gentoo today since a week or so 17:40 < bridge> 43 packages 17:40 < bridge> not bad 17:40 < bridge> Linux gentoo 6.16.7-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Sep 14 17:31:06 CEST 2025 x86_64 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 17:50 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416813430417002636/image.png?ex=68c835d4&is=68c6e454&hm=4b25f1c53b1fd86d840d1a80c96865188b6118cfb0b0abc8b4043e2f5386926b& 18:03 < bridge> almost! 18:03 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416816669103493323/image.png?ex=68c838d9&is=68c6e759&hm=32bbafc8a4a2df25a0af3dd1f724248962156898381926ec65d86b5472e2f8bb& 18:10 < bridge> are there any sources to proper skin rendering or do i have to look at the code? xd 18:25 < bridge> the animation system is so confusing 18:27 < bridge> ```cpp 18:27 < bridge> static CAnimation x78[] = { 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[0] */ { "base", /* x78[0].body */ { 1,x5137, }, /* x78[0].back_foot */ { 1,x5144, }, /* x78[0].front_foot */ { 1,x5151, }, /* x78[0].attach */ { 0,x5158, }, }, 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[1] */ { "idle", /* x78[1].body */ { 0,x5182, }, /* x78[1].back_foot */ { 1,x5189, }, /* x78[1].front_foot */ { 1,x5196, }, /* x78[1].attach */ { 0,x5203, }, }, 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[2] */ { "inair", /* x78[2].body */ { 0,x5222, }, /* x78[2].back_foot */ { 1,x5229, }, /* x78[2].front_foot */ { 1,x5236, }, /* x78[2].attach */ { 0,x5243, }, }, 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[3] */ { "sit_left", /* x78[3].body */ { 1,x5262, }, /* x78[3].back_foot */ { 1,x5269, }, /* x78[3].front_foot */ { 1,x5276, }, /* x78[3].attach */ { 0,x5283, }, }, 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[4] */ { "sit_right", /* x78[4].body */ { 1,x5307, }, /* x78[4].back_foot */ { 1,x5314, }, /* x78[4].front_foot */ { 1,x5321, }, /* x78[4].attach */ { 0,x5328, }, }, 18:27 < bridge> /* x78[5] */ { "walk", /* x78[5].body */ { 6,x5352, }, /* x78[5].back_foot */ { 6,x5359, }, /* x78[5].front_foot */ { 6,x5366, }, /* x78[5].attach */ { 0,x5373, }, }, 18:28 < bridge> /* x78[6] */ { "run_left", /* x78[6].body */ { 6,x5472, }, /* x78[6].back_foot */ { 6,x5479, }, /* x78[6].front_foot */ { 6,x5486, }, /* x78[6].attach */ { 0,x5493, }, }, 18:28 < bridge> /* x78[7] */ { "run_right", /* x78[7].body */ { 6,x5592, }, /* x78[7].back_foot */ { 6,x5599, }, /* x78[7].front_foot */ { 6,x5606, }, /* x78[7].attach */ { 0,x5613, }, }, 18:28 < bridge> /* x78[8] */ { "hammer_swing", /* x78[8].body */ { 0,x5712, }, /* x78[8].back_foot */ { 0,x5719, }, /* x78[8].front_foot */ { 0,x5726, }, /* x78[8].attach */ { 5,x5733, }, }, 18:28 < bridge> /* x78[9] */ { "ninja_swing", /* x78[9].body */ { 0,x5767, }, /* x78[9].back_foot */ { 0,x5774, }, /* x78[9].front_foot */ { 0,x5781, }, /* x78[9].attach */ { 6,x5788, }, }, 18:28 < bridge> }; 18:28 < bridge> ``` 18:28 < bridge> oh here it is 18:35 < bridge> That's generated code, `content.py` is very readable 18:37 < bridge> ```python 18:37 < bridge> anim = Animation("base") 18:38 < bridge> anim.body.frames.Add(AnimKeyframe(0, 0, -4, 0)) 18:38 < bridge> anim.back_foot.frames.Add(AnimKeyframe(0, 0, 10, 0)) 18:38 < bridge> anim.front_foot.frames.Add(AnimKeyframe(0, 0, 10, 0)) 18:38 < bridge> container.animations.Add(anim) 18:38 < bridge> 18:38 < bridge> anim = Animation("idle") 18:38 < bridge> anim.back_foot.frames.Add(AnimKeyframe(0, -7, 0, 0)) 18:38 < bridge> anim.front_foot.frames.Add(AnimKeyframe(0, 7, 0, 0)) 18:38 < bridge> container.animations.Add(anim) 18:38 < bridge> ``` 18:38 < bridge> based on this shouldn't the feet be at an offset of 4 units to the feet? but the feet are moved 7 feet to the right/left based on the foot? how do i know the y offset of the feet to the body? because it is definitely not 4 18:41 < bridge> most i get is a sus tee 18:41 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416826116844421140/image.png?ex=68c841a5&is=68c6f025&hm=7ce5aef5f09ae3e05cfca532dc68c0d8287cb8704496f7f9618359de73b833a9& 18:41 < bridge> dev 18:41 < bridge> can u make a pakistani server ddnet 18:43 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416826580344504540/teemongus.gif.mp4?ex=68c84214&is=68c6f094&hm=4f3b21657dc7ab00b20cffce2af6dfead26fba52eb83a72f08b668bfb9674fb3& 18:43 < bridge> okay i got it 18:43 < bridge> thanks xd 18:43 < bridge> teero 18:43 < bridge> np, ur welcome 18:43 < bridge> can u make a pakistan server? 18:44 < bridge> i can't 18:44 < bridge> whop can 18:44 < bridge> is there even a vps hoster for pakistan? 18:44 < bridge> who can 18:44 < bridge> idk maybe 19:11 < bridge> does someone have the mappers with most maps with an updated version? 19:34 < bridge> @ryozuki is ddstats.org also deleted? 19:41 < bridge> seems like it is 19:41 < bridge> it stopped being available a long time ago 19:41 < bridge> at least i cant access it myself since ~3 months ago 19:54 < bridge> :nouis: 20:03 < bridge> hi @forgottenabscat 20:03 < bridge> i heard you are the go to guy about mobile code so im asking you. 20:03 < bridge> can the action of clicking the screen on mobile be reprogrammed? i know there is the change config ingame setting which you can set it to fire but its pretty limited, i wondered if i could make it do custom commands, like the kog bind bind mouse1 "+prev_weapon;+fire" and bind the circle to custom command like bind mouse2 "+weapon2;+hook" 20:14 < bridge> Inside https://maps.ddnet.org/compilations/ - ddnet-maps.zip, there are 3 map duplicates listed on the top-right and bottom-right 20:14 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416849572063481946/image.png?ex=68c8577d&is=68c705fd&hm=678a393eb6d011886d231508b511b92ea8c915eff140af94c67de21edc015cbc& 20:15 < bridge> (ignore the windows activation) 20:17 < bridge> I'll try to open all the other maps in DDNet nightly to see if the Quad clipping optimization works everywhere 20:18 < bridge> It's only 2500 maps, I had worse :owo: 20:18 < bridge> (25k image moderation on Teedata) 20:22 < bridge> ... Why is F1 (which is the console) inside the Map Editor opens the URL https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/Mapping on my browser? 20:22 < bridge> because F1 is the default key for `help` on a lot of applications 20:22 < bridge> Like, please next time add a window to announce to all users that you plan on opening up this link 20:23 < bridge> And the link itself isn't secure even 20:23 < bridge> Well, not exactly secure 20:23 < bridge> Yeah, but no warnings for opening a website on your browser via a third party app? 20:23 < bridge> You cannot justify it xd 20:23 < bridge> i mean - its a dead link atm, but wdym `not secure` ? 20:24 < bridge> its just a wikimedia instance 20:24 < bridge> security risk 20:24 < bridge> Uou already got hacked by Jupstar who knows what urls ddnet will open on your machine 😬 20:24 < bridge> You already got hacked by Jupstar who knows what urls ddnet will open on your machine 😬 20:24 < bridge> I'm not kidding, if there's any chance for that link (which you said dead link) to be used for some idiotic remote code execution, then eeeh 20:24 < bridge> Let's say it's not legal to do something like this without warning the user 20:25 < bridge> Common example would be Steam, Youtube, Facebook, Discord and all the other social media sites warning you that you (the user) go to another website, uncontrolled by this specific party 20:26 < bridge> It's due to regulations 20:26 < bridge> DDNet is not an exception 20:26 < bridge> Escecially when it leads to an unsafe dead link 20:27 < bridge> dead link as in: it redirects to the current backup 20:28 < bridge> Robyt is also adding backdoors, crazy 20:28 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416853008519528601/image.png?ex=68c85ab1&is=68c70931&hm=b42976aef59d96722a66dd0a2691280d95c990a0667945d5d51002963718c993& 20:28 < bridge> I rephrase what I said. It's not that legal to do something like this, without warning the user 20:29 < bridge> If the user doesn't know what the application opens (which I assume under a fucking loophole, you can say "just look up on Github", nobody will do that), then there's a chance that this backfires under EU user safety regulations 20:30 < bridge> And since Github is a place for developers, not casual users who just want to play the game, most of the playerbase will overlook the fact that this ever existed 20:30 < bridge> Meaning, they don't know about F1 in the Map Editor, ever leading you to a website. 20:30 < bridge> It's much worse to think about it when other clients have this feature as well, especially hacked ones 20:30 < bridge> Hi guys 20:30 < bridge> Hellou :3 20:30 < bridge> I send the screenshot so you know who to sue, now to show the url 20:30 < bridge> I sent the screenshot so you know who to sue, now to show the url 20:30 < bridge> i mean it's obviously legal if you control the linked website 20:30 < bridge> the link should be fixed indeed with the new wiki instance, but having F1 open a browser link is very standard behavior 20:31 < bridge> i may need a source or two from you stating it as `illegal` and `breaching EU user safety regulations` 20:31 < bridge> Without warning the user where it takes you first? 20:31 < bridge> because all i can find are ethical reasons not to do it 20:31 < bridge> i mean click f1 in the discord client, it opens a website too 20:32 < bridge> F1 has now two functionalities which users know only one of: 20:32 < bridge> - Opening up the console for commands inside the game 20:32 < bridge> - Opening up a browser and redirecting you to a website 20:32 < bridge> There is no clarification, nor explanation inside the client to know that these two exist together 20:32 < bridge> This is my only issue - 20:32 < bridge> and without a prompt too! :OHNOOOO: 20:32 < bridge> This is my only issue -^ 20:32 < bridge> But only for discord links 😄 20:33 < bridge> warnings only make sense for user generated content 20:33 < bridge> Discord is a web application, DDNet is a game 20:34 < bridge> the f1 keybind works on both the application and the browser version 20:34 < bridge> that makes sense then, its just that what u were saying earlier about privacy risks and warnings just isn't true 20:34 < bridge> 20:34 < bridge> some clarifiation on the difference betwen f1 ingame and in the editor is a good discussion, i don't really mind much but it might be clearer to have a [?] button in the editor for help and revert the f1 to just open the console normally 20:34 < bridge> its default behaviour and i dislike the fact that you're throwing words like `EU user safety regulations` and `legal` <-> `illegal` without proper sources around. kebs could probably puke out a prompt for it within 20 minutes, but only if there's an actual need for it. 20:34 < bridge> You don't understand the point or what you are on? 20:34 < bridge> DDNet is a game, which means it shouldn't have the functionality of a web browser, since the game isn't about social interaction... right? 20:35 < bridge> You debug the game, using F1, the consoler 20:35 < bridge> You debug the game, using F1, the console 20:35 < bridge> its a wiki page, for the game... 20:35 < bridge> that is managed by the admins 20:35 < bridge> Inside the game, The console is the debugger 20:35 < bridge> :pepe_godwhy: 20:36 < bridge> Why is it that you guys are against informing the playerbase about multiple functionality on the most major keyboard button? 20:36 < bridge> @teero777 you clearly don't play the game if you don't know the basics of console debugging in ddnet 20:37 < bridge> every time i fail on kog extreme i check console to see what went wrong 20:37 < bridge> I'll spam it to hell until you guys understand the problem 20:37 < bridge> > I rephrase what I said. It's not that legal to do something like this, without warning the user 20:37 < bridge> 20:37 < bridge> proof that sentence to me and i'll make a PR 20:37 < bridge> I don't mind the redirection 20:37 < bridge> I don't mind the wiki part, I don't even mind that it's on the same key as on the Console 20:37 < bridge> can you redirect it to /dev/null? 20:37 < bridge> JUST WARN THE FUCKING USER 20:38 < bridge> was I clear now? 20:38 < bridge> Wait, you can launch ddnet? Not having any install problems for 3 days in a row? 😮 20:38 < bridge> XDDDDDDDDDDD 20:38 < bridge> avo stfu xDDDD 20:38 < bridge> ey Cellegen, press F1 in Visual Studio - its an application and opens up a microsoft webpage.. without a prompt! 20:38 < bridge> warn the user about the wiki page?? 20:38 < bridge> How well did the new game perform tho? 20:38 < bridge> "There is no clarification, nor explanation inside the client to know that these two exist together" 20:39 < bridge> warning that the client is gonna open a webpage. its not a bad thing to do. 20:39 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416855904531517460/VaLlgFN.png?ex=68c85d63&is=68c70be3&hm=9b2b86b6165beffea834de09966621c486fddca24167c11c69cfb46d9252f825& 20:39 < bridge> what about this one? 20:39 < bridge> 🤔 20:39 < bridge> peopl also dont know that `unbind_all; cl_save_settings 1; quit` will give you a good time 20:39 < bridge> yet it exists 20:39 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416856010538356877/image.png?ex=68c85d7c&is=68c70bfc&hm=92554cabe96ed18972a4eef036c336fa3ccdd0315444043d7701cd9dda761795& 20:39 < bridge> Sounds like an awesome keybind 20:39 < bridge> Where 20:40 < bridge> It might help Teero to get better at Gores 20:40 < bridge> @bencie. I don't have that. 20:40 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416856090099847238/image.png?ex=68c85d8f&is=68c70c0f&hm=b680e9296d36dd142d7a2e201be352356b13bc52402c4b87bc88448961b0c777& 20:40 < bridge> I don't do anything basically 20:40 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416856211025825923/IBYrnWu.png?ex=68c85dac&is=68c70c2c&hm=6d85cf9acce01db9b696f129617bbc2fa5e879c0fb958d09e2ce49985f3f36f9& 20:41 < bridge> best quote of you yet 20:41 < bridge> Do wait, this icon doesn't have a dropbox saying what is up with it, and it's next to the exit button. These buttons are small brother, what if you misslick it? 20:41 < bridge> Or better example: 20:41 < bridge> What if I wanna bring up the console inside the Map Editor? 20:41 < bridge> Like, I wanna test out maps on Nightly. 20:42 < bridge> I have to press either the exit button, or have my left hand suffer with CTRL SHIFT E 20:42 < bridge> And there's a chance I missclick it 20:43 < bridge> Why not just put it on the left side instead, or have it be separated more, while also just writing "Wiki" next to the icon? 20:43 < bridge> From a design perspective, this is the bare minimum to provide something no one asked for xd 20:43 < bridge> @robyt3 this would be a nice thing to be able to do btw. im using i3 and my mouse i locked in the window until i go into the console. its impossible to unlock your mouse in the editor afaik. 20:43 < bridge> That's be a few thousands lines of code, feel free to contribute 20:44 < bridge> That'll be a few thousands lines of code, feel free to contribute 20:44 < bridge> Pay me 20:44 < bridge> that's the only way I do anything for you all xd 20:44 < bridge> I'll feel free to complain dw 20:45 < bridge> you'd have to pay robyt to accept your pr if you even made it 20:45 < bridge> Only mention Github to me if I'm getting paid tonight 😂 20:46 < bridge> Cellegen getting the KoG reaction treatment on DDNet is next level sunday entertainment 20:46 < bridge> That how you know I'm him 20:46 < bridge> straight to silly billy you go 20:46 < bridge> :feelsbadman: 20:47 < bridge> hmm didnt work unfortunately 20:47 < bridge> @robyt3 would u happen to know why my particles dont have the same behavior 20:47 < bridge> but fr tho, I wanna open up console on the map editor, otherwise I cannot test out the Quad Clipping optimization 20:47 < bridge> but fr tho, I wanna open up console on the map editor, otherwise I cannot test out the Quad Clipping optimization as efficiently as possible 20:47 < bridge> Hey hey, this is typical developer chat 20:47 < bridge> I have like 2.5k maps, this will be painful 20:47 < bridge> Hey hey, this is typical developer chat - not KoG specific 20:48 < bridge> eh 20:48 < bridge> Main character development, wdym 20:48 < bridge> I would have written a script if I needed to test more than 3 maps manually, but have fun if that's what you want to do 20:49 < bridge> Why don't you do it for me then? If this saves a lot of time, tests out all of the maps for quad clipping and would benefit future maps with the same tool, why not do it yourself? 20:49 < bridge> w...wow 20:50 < bridge> that's not even 🤣 moment 20:50 < bridge> Did you put them in the correct group? 20:50 < bridge> I would've put fire under Roby by saying "feel free to contribute" but I'm no contributer 🤣 20:50 < bridge> I would've put fire under Roby by saying "feel free to contribute" but I'm no contributor 🤣 20:50 < bridge> they're in group::general 20:51 < bridge> if it weren't for my own sanity i'd clown emoji react to that and your prior message. 20:51 < bridge> 20:51 < bridge> good night Cellegen 20:51 < bridge> laziness, gn for u:owo: 20:51 < bridge> You are using `SPRITE_PART_BALL`, not sure if this needs to be in `CParticles::GROUP_PROJECTILE_TRAIL` then 20:51 < bridge> oh ew 20:53 < bridge> Also because of this comment, I almost don't feel like contributing to anything related to DDNet at all now 20:53 < bridge> Kinda depressing fr 20:53 < bridge> Not entirely sure how these groups work though. I guess also add some debug messages to make sure the particles are created correctly to begin with. 20:57 < bridge> righttt so i was actually also confused by this, configs and commands are kinda two separate things and in the editor some commands are explicitly loaded 20:57 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416860513056325692/image.png?ex=68c861ae&is=68c7102e&hm=48ef8e7158168a3618b0fffe9c80f4242134a1d6dc12e1ea488a0481c847cd56& 20:57 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1416860513530548304/image.png?ex=68c861ae&is=68c7102e&hm=e7e51e60cdbc106d62596d9ced257482d6634af444b899ce0854dcbb4fbd277e& 20:58 < bridge> lets say you generously need ~3 minutes for each map, thats almost 175 hours of manually checking maps. 20:58 < bridge> even if its just a minute, that is still ~58 hours of work, manually!. 20:58 < bridge> roby wasn't giving off a lazy comment to stop you from contributing, they were giving you a suggestion every sane person would've given you. 21:07 < bridge> can someone explain the animation framework in ddnet to me? 😭 21:08 < bridge> didn't you go to sleep? xd 21:09 < bridge> Also, it counts as a lazy comment for me, since no developer in DDNet throughout my entirety of playing this game wouldn't have mentioned "do it yourself". 21:10 < bridge> in germany we call that a Strohmann 21:10 < bridge> we dont like Strohmann 21:10 < bridge> strong man 21:10 < bridge> In on the forum days I have received comments about programming your own stuff on Github by developers 21:11 < bridge> Strawman? do you call me thin? 21:11 < bridge> In the forum days I have received comments about programming your own stuff on Github by developers 21:12 < bridge> In the forum days I have received comments about programming your own stuff on Github by developers 21:12 < bridge> And that was half a decade ago 21:12 < bridge> i guess the english translation would be straw-man argument or straw-man fallacy 21:12 < bridge> Konsti made a farcry to deen about adding different shields to ddnet and they implement it, ONLY CUZ I MADE A PICTURE FOR IT 21:13 < bridge> that is the only contribution you ever get from me 21:13 < bridge> Only cuz that pink rat bastard is a good friend of mine 21:15 < bridge> Cellegen wants to test maps 21:15 < bridge> Cellegen says he wants to manually check them 21:15 < bridge> Cellegen was told that Roby would've written a script personally 21:15 < bridge>