00:00 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Because Heinrich doesn’t read discord I will write in the email he is my favorite maintainer, ez
00:01 < bridge> <kebscs> :pepeW:
00:02 < bridge> <kebscs> @louis.place were target switches supposed to only work on switch layer, or all game,front,switch?
00:03 < bridge> <jxsl13> one week doom scrolling mental health shorts followed by one week of leet code.
00:04 < bridge> <chillerdragon> doom scrolling mental health shorts xxxxD
00:08 < bridge> <Ewan> step 1: turn off the screen
00:21 < bridge> <louis> just switch imo
00:22 < bridge> <kebscs> alr, undoing the entities changes then
00:24 < bridge> <abricotiabricota> I always hear about Heinrich as the one which is needed everywhere, if you could thx him from at least me, for all what he do and did would be nice. Btw thx you too, you are rly     active, and doing manyshit on github
00:36 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Ah nice this has to be Heinrich’s undercover account ^
00:40 < bridge> <chillerdragon> !remind 3 find swarfey demo
00:40 < chillerbot> Helo chillerdragon I will remind you at Sat Aug 23 2025 00:43:06 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time) about your matter again.
00:40 < bridge> <chairn> imo, this is way more twish than the other sounds
00:40 < bridge> <chairn> afair, grenade sound is a plastic bottle hit, pistol gun is also homemade, so the sound proposed by @kebscs has the same custom made origin with at homes "tools"
00:43 < chillerbot> DO NOT FORGET @chillerdragon TO: find swarfey demo
00:58 < bridge> <chairn> it's already added in the server, don't worry 😉
01:01 < bridge> <chairn> just say that you've found it but that the board is too small 😄
06:32 < bridge> <Assa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408670317408292954/Screenshot_20250823-063239.png?ex=68aa95f7&is=68a94477&hm=bbc5bc6cca44f8c4baeead32b744d78fdee1e9e1b9805f44fe3217f701d600a6&
06:39 < bridge> <jxsl13> git push -f
06:39 < bridge> <jxsl13> we love it
06:39 < bridge> <jxsl13> :justatest:
06:47 < bridge> <Assa> what the hell is sleep? because I don't get it :pepeW:
07:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> hi from mobile tethering
07:33 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> You too? :lol:
07:51 < bridge> <melon> :kek:
07:51 < bridge> <melon> Gumo
07:51 < bridge> <Assa> gumo ^^
08:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @swarfey ah yes you did send it but i was too slow ._. ``This content is no longer available.`` sos
08:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** since when does discord delete files?
08:16 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or is this file still available on discord? https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/irclogs/blob/c19fa335831a7a00596a487df0fcb38ade7b03a2/ddnet/2025-08-20.log#L1009
08:18 < bridge> <melon> let me install thunar really quick, i'll repost it for ya
08:21 < bridge> <melon> ChillerDragon:
08:21 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408697534301339708/Mixi4Karolina_2025-08-20_21-38-41.demo?ex=68aaaf50&is=68a95dd0&hm=cedf2156e032427e37543c1fc0e3507e6e67af6d8da599b54e8cdacc825e6dd8&
08:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** thanks @melon <:heartw:395753947396046850>
08:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> i got user program arguments setup
08:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408701088043106325/image.png?ex=68aab29f&is=68a9611f&hm=0344c77c20ce50549ae3806598d0489afad7c121c026645c735f0eec029d0682&
08:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** client demos do not include anything the client sends right? only what the server sends?
08:36 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 👍
08:36 < bridge> <melon> ran my cout c code yet
08:36 < bridge> <melon> :(
08:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> hm im more used to rust programs
08:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> can u write rust?
08:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> wait i publish the simple elibc
08:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** oh there is an edge case where the client writes to demo what it sends actually 
08:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/236b73df7a89674660e7b5cf2333e6e175e04522/src/engine/client/client.cpp#L189-L194
08:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but needs explicit ``MSGFLAG_RECORD``
08:39 < bridge> <Assa> I have redone the graphic to include nightly :owo: fairer comparison
08:39 < bridge> <Assa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408702227950075944/Unbenannt.png?ex=68aab3af&is=68a9622f&hm=6f8b1e4e2fe3a9869e137e84a080d022163fa8e3c1bdb4642cec22b6524de0cf&
08:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** some dummy sound global thingy
08:40 < bridge> <melon> i can ye xd
08:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** github easter egg wot
08:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.7bfee36d-7beb-4c5a-bb3e-0c36161c5df0.png
08:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** github gamer reached final level
09:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> i published elibc u can use it now
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> u need nightly rust and ur main should look like
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```rust
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> #![no_std]
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> #![no_main]
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> use elibc::{
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki>     alloc::{string::String, vec::Vec},
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki>     main, println,
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> };
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> main!(main, rust_args);
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> pub fn main(args: Vec<String>) -> u64 {
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki>     println!("hello world: {args:#?}");
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki>     0
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> }
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408714397572137020/x86_64-edos.json?ex=68aabf05&is=68a96d85&hm=147797b07f8059e38b951524092c37c78b092b039966ee7cefd53448fd0ed855&
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> u also need this carget
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> in .cargo/config put
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> [build]
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> target = "x86_64-edos.json"
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> [unstable]
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> build-std = ["core", "alloc"]
09:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
09:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> btw for no_std if u want to parse args i recommend the "getargs" crate
09:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> `getargs = { version = "0.5.0", default-features = false }`
09:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://docs.rs/elibc/latest/elibc/
09:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> if u need a mutex use the spin crate xd
09:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> (i need to add lot of syscalls yet)
09:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) can you see in tclient as non authed player which rank the authed users have? Like helper vs moderator?
09:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the protocol allows it
09:49 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> for the same reason we dont have the colors in nameplates i dont show it
09:49 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> might add a seperate color for score board though
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** could also use text
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** so its not done?
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ill send issue then :p 
09:50 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> in my 0.7 ids pr i had a go at making it text
09:50 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> way too big
09:50 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> its gotta be symbols
09:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** oh wait
09:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** is it rly send?
09:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye it is
09:51 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408720192372080670/image.png?ex=68aac46a&is=68a972ea&hm=411b3c0aee79e649a484d7403bd533055098e992a82b6c48e38817a0e3e9bab1&
09:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** eat issue mf
09:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> eat?
09:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> issue?
09:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** da
09:53 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> wa?
09:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i sended
09:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** to tclient
10:02 < bridge> <Assa> time to review each other chiller 😉 :greenthing:
10:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** review4review
10:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** soon 80 prs <:justatest:572499997178986510>
10:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** bruv i got rust error
10:06 < bridge> <Assa> what if I do recursive out levels or auth level diamonds @chillerdragon ?
10:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** common rust L
10:06 < bridge> <Assa> what if I do recursive auth levels or auth level diamonds @chillerdragon ?
10:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** idk wat u mean 
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon why isnt the spree msgs sending
10:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** uhm @Solly (bun bun) 
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408724231046299699/image.png?ex=68aac82d&is=68a976ad&hm=756c61e586699e16494cac56f0ebb16991ae1211e4db77a4becdd451f097e29a&
10:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** idk how sprees work
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```cpp
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if(g_Config.m_SvKillingspreeKills > 0 && pPlayer->Spree() % g_Config.m_SvKillingspreeKills == 0)
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> {
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     static const char aaSpreeMsg[NumMsg][32] = {"is on a killing spree", "is on a rampage", "is dominating", "is unstoppable", "is godlike"};
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     int No = pPlayer->Spree() / g_Config.m_SvKillingspreeKills;
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     str_format(aBuf, sizeof(aBuf), "'%s' %s with %d kills!", Server()->ClientName(pPlayer->GetCid()), aaSpreeMsg[(No > NumMsg - 1) ? NumMsg - 1 : No], pPlayer->Spree());
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     GameServer()->SendChat(-1, TEAM_ALL, aBuf);
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> }
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it uses the same condition as this
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> but this isnt being printed
10:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** what did you set the spree config to?
10:07 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 1
10:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** lemme pull ur code
10:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its no virus right?
10:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon https://github.com/sollybunny/ddnet insta
10:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon <https://github.com/sollybunny/ddnet> insta
10:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> same one as the pr ._.
10:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** when to learn git btw
10:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.a7033d20-5f19-4aa3-8ec6-558301216ac8.png
10:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** where branch
10:09 < bridge> <Assa> i mean if sb ever makes a disable option, inheriting auth levels will cause problem
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** how am i supposed to pull that 
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** bru
10:09 < bridge> <Assa> but that's future you's problem
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Assa disable what
10:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```sh
10:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git remote add solly https://github.com/sollybunny/ddnet
10:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git fetch solly insta
10:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git checkout solly/insta
10:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** that wont conflict with insta?
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i guess not
10:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but then im in the ugly state
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> u can do `git switch -c solly-insta`
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if you want to not be on a temp branch
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_add mod_with_less_permission
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_inherit mod
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_disable ban
10:10 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``git checkout souly/insta``
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> D:
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> ```
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_add mod_with_less_permission
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_inherit mod
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> auth_level_disable ban
10:10 < bridge> <Assa> ```
10:11 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** disable sounds complicated
10:11 < bridge> <Assa> then you make an auth level with more permissions which enables ban, then you make a child inheriting both
10:11 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** just force users to change the order
10:11 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and base mod on mod_with_less_permissions instead of the other way around
10:11 < bridge> <Assa> I just want to tell you to never add a disable option 😄
10:12 < bridge> <Assa> and prevent inheriting from admin, since it's useless
10:12 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye
10:13 < bridge> <Assa> pipeline has many fails due to connection errors 🙁
10:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) didnt test yet but maybe its because of ips needed to track stats
10:16 < bridge> <Assa> what is the truth value of an enum with value 0?
10:16 < bridge> <Assa> I guess also false
10:16 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you can try ``sv_always_track_stats 1`` @Solly (bun bun) 
10:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> the only code that increases spree is there
10:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> oh i guess 0 % 1 == 0
10:17 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** <:ass:1010609071902171226> 
10:18 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> this works
10:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> how odes one create particle effects
10:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** on death?
10:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> whenever
10:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** CreateDeath
10:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i want to be able to create a particle
10:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** death effect particle?
10:20 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or which?
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> just like a particle
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> in the general sense
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> doesnt matter where its stolen from
10:20 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``GameServer()->CreateDeath``
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> .___.
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> singular
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> not
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> bvwoom
10:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i wana signify that someone has super hammer
10:20 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** rainbow feet? xd
10:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** have you seen a single particle in the game?
10:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> lmao
10:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** there is the new ddnet stuff for like invicible
10:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> whats that?
10:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> the trail
10:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** then you can place all kinds of entities such as lasers grenades bullets ninja swords around the tee
10:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> infclass has somethjing for position of witch spawn
10:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** oh yea you can abuse the shotgun bullet
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ah true there are particle
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ah
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> shotgun bullet
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> big brain
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i like the rainbow feet idea tho
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you can also only get the smoke
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** then you have a white dot
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** rainbow is just lots of traffic
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is it?
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and constant reconnects for 0.7
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it gets sent every snap anyway
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not in 0.7
10:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> oh
10:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and snaps are smol if they dont change
10:23 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> why doesnt it work for 0.7?
10:23 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 0.7 doesnt have info change in the snap?
10:23 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** there is no skin in the snap in 0.7
10:23 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> right
10:23 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its a net message
10:23 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> wait if its in the snap cant it be missed
10:23 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/07/game_messages.html#NETMSGTYPE_SV_SKINCHANGE
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) yes, nt
10:24 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> nt
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** if a snap is missed the client asks for resend
10:24 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> o
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** snaps cant be missed or they can not be diffed
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** information in snaps can be lost
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but only old ones
10:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** so lets say you have a short event like death/jump
10:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the client misses it
10:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if you miss 2 snaps does it send a non diffed snap?
10:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it asks for resend the server sends the latest new full snap which no longer contains jump/death
10:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but if the skin color is still the same the full new snap will contain it too
10:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> does it not contain the effects of the jump
10:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> namely being not having a jump and velocity
10:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** well at some point the jump is already in the past
10:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the server doesnt send you old
10:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> that feels flawed
10:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** jupsti thinks the same
10:26 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> whenever you miss a snapshot you have to ask for it delayed
10:26 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> you cant just keep going
10:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i guess the idea is what does one care about a jump effect that is no longer relevant anyway because it was in the past
10:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you cant be behind in a live gameplay
10:27 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> how expensive is controlling a few dozen shotgun smoke particles
10:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or you do the minecraft ah approach and randomly change the speed of the game xxxxxxxxxxxxxxXXXD
10:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** horrible if you ask me
10:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not even AI could explain to me how much "few dozen" is xd
10:27 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> umm
10:27 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 24
10:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** sounds good
10:28 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i wanted to make the effect seen in stormas afk thing
10:28 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346615147145461800/1405741940515016865/2025-08-15_05-29-31_online-video-cutter.com4.mp4?ex=68aa7ab4&is=68a92934&hm=b13245b9c4f09f0b0119e5e00ca5351ebeb05397b029eb1c4b6a2af8980e9794&
10:28 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> but smaller
10:29 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** looks badass
10:29 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you should be able to get close to that
10:29 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> (how do i make the smoke particle)
10:31 < bridge> <totar> This effect looks pretty simple
10:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @totar ok hacker
10:31 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it does
10:31 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if i could make a particle
10:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you can
10:31 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> im grepping very hard rn
10:32 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i cant find it xd
10:32 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you can also yoink some from F-DDrace
10:32 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** look for snapping money
10:32 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> wheres f ddrace
10:32 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://github.com/fokkonaut/F-DDrace/blob/aafdec69ca335fa4a6bb4fd1892d101989e2b0a5/src/game/server/entities/money.cpp#L137-L153
10:32 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> epic
10:32 < bridge> <totar> 8 rings of 10 particles, each ring spins at a slightly faster speed, each partical has its radius animated on a sin(time) the radius animation does not change with the ring speed
10:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) its teeworlds code tho. Not ddnet so watchout!
10:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and make sure to test 0.7
10:33 < bridge> <totar> 8 rings of 10 particles, each ring spins at a slightly faster speed, each partical has its radius animated on a sin(time + i*pi*2/10*) the radius animation does not change with the ring speed
10:33 < bridge> <totar> 8 rings of 10 particles, each ring spins at a slightly faster speed, each partical has its radius animated on a ``sin(time + i*pi*2/10*)`` the radius animation does not change with the ring speed
10:33 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> do i have to add this to some player:onsnap?
10:34 < bridge> <totar> No
10:34 < bridge> <totar> wait
10:34 < bridge> <totar> Are you doing this server side
10:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> yeah
10:34 < bridge> <totar> Thats hard
10:35 < bridge> <totar> Particles are only send to the client 1 time then the client does the rest of the physics and movement
10:35 < bridge> <totar> So you need to use, something else?
10:35 < bridge> <totar> Lasers or hearts or shields
10:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i want to use the shotgun shell smoke
10:35 < bridge> <totar> probably not possible
10:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> infclass does it
10:36 < bridge> <totar> Nvm then
10:36 < bridge> <totar> I didnt know the server could update a smoke particle
10:36 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> presumably its a new one
10:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** thats old stuff and the server has quite some control over it but it has its smoothness and speed limits
10:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i assume
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://github.com/infclass/teeworlds-infclassR/commit/deef165a1763619909ef01df44af57a0f0cfb4f5
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> hammer dot
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://github.com/infclass/teeworlds-infclassR/blob/3cbb669ff291e7a0b01be2d4325d31acb0dc390e/src/game/server/infclass/ic_gamecontroller.cpp#L910
10:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** basically same as fok did
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i guess its not shotgun then
10:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** that is probably to make it white
10:40 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> `return;;` thats a free pr
10:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** because the shotgun bullet is a grey thingy
10:40 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> idm the color
10:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** might be a hack for the client to not render it
10:40 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i just want particle
10:41 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the hammer is a valid weapon that has no projectile
10:41 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** so it sends only the smoke
10:41 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** (im just guessing here=
10:51 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon if u use a registration thing for gamemodes it will also reduce compile time of gamecontext which takes a solid 30s for me
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408737571907043418/image.png?ex=68aad49a&is=68a9831a&hm=afe8fe9b4bbafb6f28b05e34ecbee84203ccb30a6f797aa723bbe09a46f7128e&
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 👻
11:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** how so @Solly (bun bun) ? tbh i didnt get your code snippet. Wouldnt it still have to include the header in gamecontext?
11:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** classic snapchat moment :ghost: 
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> non
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> static initalization
11:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** yea idk send pr xd
11:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> static initalization is magic
11:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> lmao
11:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> you oaky with macro jank?
11:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> same is possible without.. but it would just be the expanded form
11:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** macro jank can be jank and ncie
11:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** Nice*
11:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** so idk ye go send
11:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> okaay
11:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> idk why my snapshots r dying
11:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> so
11:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ill do that
11:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** send ur snap to gh
11:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ill look
11:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ive pushed it
11:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> as "temp"
11:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i see no temp here https://github.com/SoulyVEVO/ddnet
11:03 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ):<
11:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hrhrhrhhr
11:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** this will never get old
11:03 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> temp commit
11:03 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> not branch
11:04 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** yeye i was trolin u
11:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) i dont see it right away sadly, but i can tell you how to debug. Patch your client to better log snap errors. I assume it drops the invalid item.
11:05 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git fetch soully insta
11:06 < bridge> <learath2> I did not know we were getting inheritence
11:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** OOP or rcon?
11:06 < bridge> <learath2> Rcon
11:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ofc u didnt
11:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** because nobody reads my epic comments
11:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** thats why we need the meeting
11:07 < bridge> <learath2> In my defense I have been extremely busy
11:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** I call bs
11:07 < bridge> <Ewan> :feelsbadman:
11:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** rossbit pulled the same excuse
11:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon ur instagib gamecontext is incredibly jank lmao
11:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** at least heinrich responded to my email with "of course my favorite ddnet developer i will block the entire sunday for you baby"
11:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> took a bit of back and forth to figure out what was goin on
11:08 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) i get that a lot ;_;
11:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i wonder why
11:09 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** <:feelsbadman:391614770303991808> 
11:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> case insnsative ):<
11:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> have to make custom unordered map comparison and hash
11:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is annoying
11:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i guess i can just iterate through it for now to be lazy
11:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> it seems the box at top of building is broken and tomorrow or monday they will fix it
11:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> ill make my home server into a router using my mobile tethering
11:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> with usb
11:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i used my raspberry pi as router for a few months back when i had no other router and couldnt be assed to obtain one xd
11:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but it was connected to proper internet coming from the house
11:20 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i think i never felt so hacker when i managed to wifi without fritzbox xd
11:30 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> why `CGameControllerInstaTDM` @chillerdragon ?
11:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** idk
11:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** why not
11:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** u want bool?
11:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** teeworlds does it like that too https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/5d682733e482950f686663c129adc4b751c8d790/src/game/server/gamemodes/tdm.cpp
11:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Assa do you use clangd btw? it should show you warnings for rossbits comment https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10741#pullrequestreview-3147424996
11:33 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon having extra classes just to make it a team is a bit silly i think, but  i just meant having the extra "insta" in the class name
11:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** uhm maybe because its for instagib modes
11:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or is it also for regular tdm?
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> dm is just dm
11:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hmm
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ohhh
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is that
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> instatdm
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> itdm
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> forgot that existed
11:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** possibly
11:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** check .cpp top
11:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> xd
11:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> my ide is not having a fun time trying to fine the implementations of the constructors for some reason
11:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i hate the project name btw xd
11:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** insta is an ambigous term now
11:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ):<
11:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it coudl refer to the project or the gameplay aspect
11:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408746488191778816/image.png?ex=68aadce8&is=68a98b68&hm=181e85158a664566a2bc8e78ceb5e3f676b30a4e3ff85d1f579701a955f06c77&
11:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** vscode issue
11:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** electron enjoyer detected
11:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.e862e19c-7cb0-48af-a3fa-0fd79ccf6331.png
11:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.eabc7528-bcd7-4110-a63c-0aa87d1d4a00.png
11:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** neovim BTW
11:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it can find it decleration
11:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> just not implementation
11:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> also inconsistent capatalisation
11:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> with respecting the gamemodes cases in the class name
11:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> CGameControllerZcatch
11:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> CGameControllerBoloFng
11:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> CGameControllerICTF
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```cpp
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> void CGameControllerBoloFng::Tick()
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> {
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     CGameControllerBaseFng::Tick();
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> }
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
11:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ._.
11:45 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye ik im 10x developer like that
11:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i first went with copying style from teeworlds which uses CTF then i went full nuts camel case no matter the damage with Zcatch xd
11:46 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> which one do u prefer
11:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** nuts camel
11:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** is easier to think about in the fture
11:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its ugly but at least u know its ugly and how
11:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** leaves no room for discussion
11:47 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> okay
11:47 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> will fix
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```cpp
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> m_pController = nullptr;
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> for(const auto &[String, Constructor] : g_Gamemodes)
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> {
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     if(str_comp(Config()->m_SvGametype, String.c_str()) == 0)
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     {
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>         m_pController = Constructor(this);
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>         break;
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     }
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> }
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if(m_pController == nullptr)
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> {
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     log_info("gametype", "unknown gametype '%s' falling back to ddnet", Config()->m_SvGametype);
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     m_pController = (g_Gamemodes["ddnet"])(this);
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> }
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> :D
11:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> its done
11:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hacker
11:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** perfect use case for ``log_warn`` btw
11:59 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the c++ ah string hashmap looks bloated but i guess performance doesnt matter in that case
12:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon well im just using unordered map because it is meant to be a 1 way key pair list
12:01 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> but i am searchign thru it like it is an array of pairs because im lazy
12:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/pull/405/files
12:18 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1dce6962-7517-437d-9350-89f5adf2803d.png
12:18 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** maintainer btw
12:20 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ewww https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/PZ
12:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``rm -rf build`` worked 🤷
12:22 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) time to test your change in production
12:22 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> yay
12:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) windows deded ``Integer divide-by-zero``
12:24 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/actions/runs/17174277904/job/48728091094
12:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> how?!?
12:25 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** maybe the tests register 0 gamemodes?
12:26 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if the server is not constructed statically there is no way the gamemodes arent initalized beforehand
12:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** test in production with asan was a full success btw
12:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Solly (bun bun) well some ddnet maintainer crackhead had the idea to write this janked unit test https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/236b73df7a89674660e7b5cf2333e6e175e04522/src/test/gameworld.cpp#L52-L87
12:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i think it might be the one messing with u
12:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but just an idea
12:28 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it is
12:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** where a windows
12:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** we need a windows
12:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** to backtrace the testrunner.exe @Solly (bun bun) or are you on it?
12:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon i cant think of a way to solve it
12:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** fok
12:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if both things are statically inited i cant really force the order
12:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** cant we force in one dummy mode
12:34 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> wdym
12:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> im gonna try adding back the ddrace gamemode to context
12:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> cuz it reduces diff and you have a gamemode
12:35 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> so no nullptr derefencing shenangings
12:36 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> well idk what the error is specifically
12:36 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> but if theres no registered gamemode its bad
12:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye
12:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** maybe we can fix the error but i cant figure it outh either without trace
12:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** we should probably not spam ddnet #developer with this ._.
12:38 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> where can i talk
12:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/
12:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** #off-topic
12:38 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> do u remember my pw
12:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** nimrocks
12:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** create new account
12:38 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i made an account
12:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i dont know the pw xd
12:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** make new
12:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> it saved nimrocks last time 😭
12:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** 🧠
12:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** use nimrocks as pw this time 🧠 🧠 🧠
12:39 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** yo
12:40 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** you can make the feild have autocomplete 2fa then it shouldnt try to save it
12:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ur pw is saved in cookies
12:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** idk how u lost it
12:40 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** my pw list was transfered from another compooper
12:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** F
12:40 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** i didnt take the cookies w me
12:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> yay
12:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> i got internet back
12:46 < bridge> <01000111g> https://db.ddstats.org/ seems to be down / 503
12:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i keep confusing them
12:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** this is either furo being rq
12:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or ryo deleting backups
12:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hrhrhrhhr
12:49 < bridge> <01000111g> just wrote it here because chances are one of them sees it 🙂
12:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** yes good channel for it
12:51 < bridge> <ryozuki> oh thats my server
12:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @ryozuki debian 13 moment. Make sure to not delete my ddnet points please while you "fix" it
12:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> yeah the python venv broke with the update
12:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> im fixing
12:55 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** pyson
12:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``rm -rf venv db;python -m venv venv``
12:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
12:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hrhrhr
12:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** cyber bullying builds the character :) 
13:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> its back online
13:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> i switched to uv
13:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> its so crazy fast
13:11 < bridge> <chillerdragon> rare rust W
13:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> omg chillerdragon a secret rust fan
13:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://docs.astro.build
13:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> woah
13:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> im remaking stuff with this
13:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> what stuff
13:22 < bridge> <Assa> nope, I don't even know which imports i sould reintroduce
13:24 < bridge> <ryozuki> u will see soon
13:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> my prediction is either ur blog or a website for edos xd
13:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Assa upgrade your dev env then. Otherwise this pr will be annoying i guess
13:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @ryozuki when new ddnet coding blog?
13:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @heinrich5991 when new ddnet blog?
13:27 < bridge> <Assa> yeah tried this already nothing works
13:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Dune where the daily dune teeworlds blog?
13:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** tried what @Assa 
13:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** lmao windows is so bad
13:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i just waited 20 seconds for ``explorer.exe .``
13:29 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** are you trying to run the ci on windows
13:31 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes
13:32 < bridge> <chillerdragon> I booted windows for you. It’s a big honor. I wouldn’t boot into windows for everyone
13:34 < bridge> <Assa> to integrate clangd somehow in the IDE. clang format is a pain as well, but it worked while with a slightly different version
13:35 < bridge> <Assa> I probably already made a lot of indirect imports
13:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon owo
13:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i dont have a windows
13:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> windows free since 09
13:42 < bridge> <chillerdragon> @essigautomat: which editor u use?
13:43 < bridge> <Assa> VSC, because VS is annoying and I don't have an intelliJ license anymore
13:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** should just be a matter of installing one extension or using the workspace josspit setup in the repo
13:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @SollyBunny2 ono tests pass on my windows
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> crap
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408780882625695866/image.png?ex=68aafcf0&is=68a9ab70&hm=a5e8956c4f58fa4475796d35a12bef42614401607b19e26029a3a382d5334190&
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> btw
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is why i removed the insta
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> but im very confused
13:52 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is InstaTDM != itdm?
13:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** Itdm also sounds fine
13:54 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** theres 2 itdms
13:54 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** `class CGameControllerItdm : public CGameControllerInstaTdm`
13:55 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** send file links otherwise idk what you talk about
13:55 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** src/game/server/gamemodes/instagib/itdm/itdm.h
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** and src/game/server/gamemodes/instagib/itdm.h
13:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** epic links
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** why are there 2
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** ._.
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** my badge
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** append them to the github thing
13:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** might be refactor bug
13:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** delete one see what happens xd
13:56 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** one depends on the other
13:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
13:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** maybe some baseclass feature then
13:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> i made the edos website using ai
13:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
13:57 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** but only the InstaTdm actually
13:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** oh we are in #developer xd
13:57 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** gets puts into "tdm"
13:57 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** oops
13:57 < ws-client> **<SollyBunny2>** oh yeah i can onl;y send imgs in dev
14:04 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://edos.edgl.dev/ look, xdd
14:04 < bridge> <ryozuki> the logo was made by ai too
14:06 < bridge> <ryozuki> frontend devs cooked
14:06 < bridge> <ryozuki> ok no but i can now never focus on frontend i love it
14:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> i dont code ddnet what would i write
14:11 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** how to do ui code
14:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @ryozuki https://github.com/yourusername/edos
14:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
14:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> average chatgpt link
14:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> i havent made the source public yet
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408787130217664604/edos-logo.png?ex=68ab02c1&is=68a9b141&hm=6da70fdb087baa0ec9bd23757814ac151d4aade31a4e14fdfac8b74ca7782a3e&
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408787190237888642/image.png?ex=68ab02d0&is=68a9b150&hm=e641aefd9e22d47e0a78a2db684df1a569c810c028b064a2d51274a61b21bd81&
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> on white doesnt look bad
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> ai made logo btw
14:17 < bridge> <Assa> the middle triangles are ... somthing xD
14:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
14:20 < bridge> <kollpotato> ez i guessed
14:21 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edos
14:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> lol
14:22 < bridge> <Assa> maybe name it different
14:22 < bridge> <kollpotato> ryoos
14:22 < bridge> <Assa> redos maybe
14:23 < bridge> <ryozuki> no
14:23 < bridge> <ryozuki> redox exists
14:23 < bridge> <Assa> uhh https://www.redox-os.org/
14:23 < bridge> <Assa> ye found it
14:31 < bridge> <Assa> asking for sb to review #10728 again :justatest:
14:31 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10728
14:38 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @.cammo. IT WAS STARING ME IN THE FACE
14:38 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> g_Gamemodes MAY NOT BE INITALIZED
14:45 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408794345401880596/edos-logo-dark.png?ex=68ab097a&is=68a9b7fa&hm=8a0efaf16cadbba461d6e570d1ef0c05f5c4a99fdea7ff2c07a93690ad7f1ba4&
14:45 < bridge> <ryozuki> new logo
14:45 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408794382810873927/image.png?ex=68ab0982&is=68a9b802&hm=3aa2d89bc75bf7aa6038710c77fa069d9a5bbf15eca7f39c7b5225c60002c79b&
14:45 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
14:46 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> yay
14:46 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> minimalism is easy to design
14:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> yep
14:47 < bridge> <kebscs> [<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edos>](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edos)
14:47 < bridge> <kebscs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edos
14:47 < bridge> <kebscs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edos
14:47 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> discontinued
14:47 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> get rekt
14:47 < bridge> <Assa> @kebscs
14:47 < bridge> <kebscs> @essigautomat
14:47 < bridge> <Assa> sb may still hold copyright over the name so watchout
14:48 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ohno
14:48 < bridge> <melon> if inkscape would stop crashing i could give you an atleast handmade one xd
14:49 < bridge> <ryozuki> ooo pog do
14:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> maybe i should not go super unix like
14:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> i need ideas to make the os unique
14:57 < bridge> <Assa> make it based on your favoruite animal
15:02 < bridge> <melon> :Pepega:
15:02 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408798557388931133/ryo_logo.png?ex=68ab0d66&is=68a9bbe6&hm=20196f1005b68a2f1c230faebbddeaaa31316c1cf7b086a96d5ca9969963e02a&
15:02 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408798557615558746/ryo_logo.svg?ex=68ab0d66&is=68a9bbe6&hm=0cd8527775ce8f640b26717299bee6f753191131e476ddd657559cdcf83f8f8c&
15:02 < bridge> <melon> :Pepega:
15:02 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408798557388931133/ryo_logo.png?ex=68ab0d66&is=68a9bbe6&hm=20196f1005b68a2f1c230faebbddeaaa31316c1cf7b086a96d5ca9969963e02a&
15:03 < bridge> <Assa> looks honestly like a map intro for an insane map with deathtiles
15:03 < bridge> <Assa> time to write a kernel to ddnet-map converter
15:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> why is it edos if its a kernel and kernel is not an os :justatest:
15:03 < bridge> <melon> was this autodeleted?
15:03 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408798849719599185/ryo_logo.svg?ex=68ab0dab&is=68a9bc2b&hm=3e932a3c3df11b7d6b652acbf4ed26612ac6db4af669bd4cdf790be8b3c7a0c3&
15:03 < bridge> <melon> i sent them together i swear
15:04 < bridge> <melon> :Pepega: @ryozuki
15:04 < bridge> <melon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408798557388931133/ryo_logo.png?ex=68ab0d66&is=68a9bbe6&hm=20196f1005b68a2f1c230faebbddeaaa31316c1cf7b086a96d5ca9969963e02a&
15:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> dw no one will execute u
15:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> but well i provide a filesystem
15:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
15:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> i need to make a installer
15:18 < bridge> <kebscs> @louis.place done with the switches pr
15:18 < bridge> <kebscs> resolved all comments and added prediction
15:18 < bridge> <Cammodude> huh
15:19 < bridge> <kebscs> only missing sounds/particiles which imo are not neccessary
15:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> wrong ping
15:19 < bridge> <kebscs> and delay, but its jank so imo not neccessary too
15:19 < bridge> <Cammodude> understandable
15:40 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @chillerdragon i got the tests to work, i just realised that the gamemode string of ddrace wasnt specified, and because of the way the warning worked i just put "ddnet", but shouldnt it be "ddrace"?
16:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @SollyBunny2 not sure yet but "ddnet" might be for ddnet and "ddrace" for ddnet plus extras see https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/issues/364
16:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
16:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> red ball of doom
16:35 < bridge> <Assa> ||1. Hier kommt die Sonne|| :justatest:
16:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> aoe is next maintainer
16:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> technically i can look into this
16:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> ive already done stuff with the sidebar a bit
16:57 < bridge> <kebscs> Where is that guy that was doing website redesign
16:57 < bridge> <kebscs> What happened
16:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> there was such a guy?
17:06 < bridge> <Aoe> @kollpotato I posted another suggestion in the comments, you reckon that's doable too?
17:06 < bridge> <Assa> it's doable, but only if you're a frontend dev and not like me, hate css html and javascript
17:13 < bridge> <kollpotato> yeah i guess i can just _borrow_ some existing code for that from somewhere
17:15 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> position: fixed
17:15 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ^~^
17:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> no he means the highlighting thing
17:15 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> r u trying right now
17:15 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> oh
17:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes im fighting git rn
17:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> it refuses to pull
17:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> technically i dont need that
17:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git reset --hard
17:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> git reset --hard origin/master
17:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> trying to do hihgliting thing
17:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> or fixed?
17:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> i can do both
17:17 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> okay
17:17 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> :D
17:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> did u want to contribute too?
17:17 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> no u do it
17:17 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> x-x
17:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> i might have to rewrite the whole sidebar :feelsbadman:
17:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> for some reason the logo has absolute position and is not related to the sidebar at all
17:32 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i highly doubt it
17:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes
17:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> i was just commenting my thoughts
17:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> i should do that less
17:36 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ghasp
17:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> this does not address the highlighting thingy
17:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> it will be a separate pr
17:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> so if something goes wrong big lovely maintainer can revert
17:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> chillerdragon: go merge my ddnet-web pr so i can steal player credentials
17:58 < bridge> <Aoe> That was fast! Legend @kollpotato
18:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> i have to test on mobile
18:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> i forgot
18:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> well i did test once and it worked fine but it wont hurt to do the 2nd time
18:01 < bridge> <Aoe> Our developers really deserve a lot of praise. 💪
18:05 < bridge> <Aoe> This should be updated to Discord, now that the forum is shut down?
18:05 < bridge> <Aoe> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408844609043304458/image.png?ex=68ab3849&is=68a9e6c9&hm=bc2c245d1974ac23c4a652f0977bdb655ecfd5886964e05741ba455d2468a3ee&
18:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> yeah ive also noticed that
18:26 < bridge> <louis> tysm
18:30 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @learath2 is there any rule against merging while high/drunk? if there is my merge window will be only 2 short hours during the morning
18:34 < bridge> <melon> maintainer btw³²
18:38 < bridge> <Assa> wdym done
18:39 < bridge> <kebscs> wdym
18:39 < bridge> <Assa> I reviewed
18:41 < bridge> <kebscs> you revieved after i typed that
18:41 < bridge> <kebscs> will fix these bit later
18:42 < bridge> <Assa> eventual consistency, but thanks @kebscs ❤️
18:49 < bridge> <ryozuki> :owo:
18:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> chiller u can be considered drunk always
18:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> so go on
18:55 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408857145650450583/image.png?ex=68ab43f6&is=68a9f276&hm=05aa69712bdcb889469d47577cde7fb294ddf63a9e4c70377af76ccb61f257fa&
18:55 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> mmmm i dont think this is a good effect
18:55 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> maybe sprinkler
19:18 < bridge> <pioooooo> ChillerDragon: Dear favorite maintainer of all time please review my pr thank you so much in advance 
19:18 < bridge> <pioooooo>  https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10570
19:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @swarfey you dont understand the speed of typing
19:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** typing is always faster than ui
19:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i dont even notice my self typing anymore
19:47 < bridge> <swarfey> yes, thats cuz u drunk
19:47 < bridge> <swarfey> alt f4 faster
19:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @ryozuki gg u made it into my gh profile
19:50 < bridge> <louis> any monkeytypers
19:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> chillerdragon: is there a video editor with vim bindings
19:51 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not that i know ._.
19:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but in kdenlive you can cut with "x" which is close to vims delete character in nromal mode
19:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and blenders video editor has blender ah keybindings which are also flowy if you are used to blender. Its been like 8 years since i last tried it but i think "g" was to move a clip.
19:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato bash script + ffmpeg <:trollchungus:1010641652920098887>
19:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> xddd i just wanted to say that
19:53 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408871889409151157/image.png?ex=68ab51b2&is=68aa0032&hm=8658df171488295b83bc7a0c525f4aa1c8616e18c0d9555779abde995cc33253&
19:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ez quoted you on thast
19:54 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
19:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but i drunk typoed ur link xd
19:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** lemme fix
19:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> wow u both are insane
19:54 < bridge> <ryozuki> im a bit tipsy rn
19:54 < bridge> <ryozuki> im getting some drinks today
19:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> my os triple faults on a user progra mwith bad inputs
19:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> im sad
19:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_fault
19:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> i wonder why there is triple fault but not quadriple fault
19:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> or n-fault
19:55 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** :potato:
19:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> more than 2 seems weird
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> kernel has afault handler to handle normal faults,, for example when u deref a null ptr or a ptr u dont own
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> if that fault handler faults
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> ur cooked
19:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> cpu triggers reboot or smth?
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> well if that fault handler faults u get the double fault handler
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> and if it faults uget triple
19:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> which is instant shutdown or reboot
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> double fault handler is tricky for example imagine u fucked up the stack completly
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> just entering the double fault handler would triple fault
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> thats why u can swap stacks with the TSS
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> on a irq
19:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> ._.
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> :brownbear:
19:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** <:brownbear:346683497701834762> <:brownbear:346683497701834762> 
19:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> im getting some nice gin
19:58 < bridge> <learath2> Simple solution, you need another fault handler
19:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> nah i simply didnt add validatio ncode
19:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> to syscalls
19:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
19:58 < bridge> <learath2> I'm a gin person if you need gin opinion
19:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** gin sucks 
19:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** change my mind
19:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> wtf alcoholics
19:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @ryozuki one day ill visit u in barcelona
19:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its gonna be epic
19:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> its a random gin my gf bought but it tastes nice iwht some lemon based soda/gas drink
19:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> chiller im in ur walls already
19:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> hello
19:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** elo
19:59 < bridge> <pilonpl> Oddly specific wikipedia page
19:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> because kernel development is big chunk of everything
20:00 < bridge> <pilonpl> Why do CPUs have exceptions anyways
20:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> @pilonpl its the performant way to handle bad programs
20:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> xd why would not
20:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> also faults are used for example to do memory swapping
20:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> in my os
20:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> if u use a float or simd instruction
20:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> at first instruction it faults
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> in that fault i init the fpu and such if needed
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> and restore the process
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> and i also track if i need to save the state for mmx and such
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> otherwise i dont do it
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> if u dont ever use it
20:01 < bridge> <pilonpl> Whaaat, you have to init the fpu? Wow
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> (512 bytes more to save on context switches)
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> yes u have to init the x87 coprocessor
20:01 < bridge> <pilonpl> What do you init it with?
20:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> just some simple privileged registers
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>   // Enable FPU in CR0
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>     unsafe {
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>         let mut cr0 = Cr0::read();
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>         // Clear EM bit enables FPU
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>         cr0.remove(Cr0Flags::EMULATE_COPROCESSOR);
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:02 < bridge> <ryozuki>         // Set MP (Monitor coprocessor) bit
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         cr0.insert(Cr0Flags::MONITOR_COPROCESSOR);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         // Clear TS (Task Switched) bit
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         cr0.remove(Cr0Flags::TASK_SWITCHED);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         Cr0::write(cr0);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>     }
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```rust
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>  // Check and enable SSE support
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>     if has_feature_edx(features_edx::SSE) {
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         unsafe {
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             let mut cr4 = Cr4::read();
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             // Enable OSFXSR (OS supports FXSAVE/FXRSTOR)
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             cr4.insert(Cr4Flags::OSFXSR);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             // Enable OSXMMEXCPT (OS supports unmasked SIMD FP exceptions)
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             cr4.insert(Cr4Flags::OSXMMEXCPT_ENABLE);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>             Cr4::write(cr4);
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         }
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>         crate::serial_println!("SSE enabled");
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki>     }
20:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
20:03 < bridge> <pilonpl> Wow i have no idea what any of this means
20:04 < bridge> <pilonpl> Wtf is CR0
20:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes because acronyms
20:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> developers love acronyms
20:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> control register 0
20:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_register
20:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> why not name it ControlRegister4
20:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> smh
20:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> :omo:
20:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> :owo:
20:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> where is control register 1
20:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408874951636947084/image.png?ex=68ab548c&is=68aa030c&hm=d3b043c91ac9034cfb0c84a3788e06330452e60840b0986502feec642720da40&
20:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> who ate it
20:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> i missed this msg, when u coming
20:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> @chillerdragon we should meet with @learath2 on barcelona and go for drinks
20:12 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Not planned yet
20:12 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes let’s do it
20:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> do u see replies?
20:12 < bridge> <chillerdragon> On phone yes
20:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
20:12 < bridge> <chillerdragon> On desktop no
20:13 < bridge> <chillerdragon> If I have profile pic I see replies
20:13 < bridge> <kollpotato> does it also mean u use matrix
20:14 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes
20:14 < bridge> <chillerdragon> When make potat maintainer
20:14 < bridge> <chillerdragon> He 5headd
20:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> matrix hater forced to use matrix
20:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> so sad
20:14 < bridge> <chillerdragon> IRC on ios so bad
20:14 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Even chat.zillyhuhn.com sucks
20:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> no
20:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> bridge sucks
20:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> but i have no idea how replies would work
20:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> probably like the og ones
20:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> > u are fat
20:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> no u
20:15 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Milkeey coded reply bridge
20:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> does it work through matrix
20:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> oh nvm
20:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> i remember it
20:16 < bridge> <chillerdragon> No
20:16 < bridge> <chillerdragon> IRC to dis
20:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> it does look pretty readable in irc too
20:16 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yess
20:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> wtf even !reply command
20:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> i did not look that deep
20:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> (its in readme)
20:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> WHAT
20:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> even updating messages
20:18 < bridge> <kollpotato> we have to dethrone heinrich and make milkeeycat the bridge king
20:18 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Fr
20:18 < bridge> <chillerdragon> catto is goated developer
20:19 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Maybe Louis can help
20:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> lerato can
20:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> also u were talking about another irc
20:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> which got disabled
20:20 < bridge> <kollpotato> libera chat
20:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Never got bridged I guesss
20:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Used to be Freenet
20:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Then drama
20:21 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Someone bought freenet as I freedom with slave proprietary money
20:21 < bridge> <kollpotato> lmao
20:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> wdym
20:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> is libera bad
20:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> No
20:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457
20:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Freenet and quake used to be bridged
20:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> But freenet basically got replaced by libera
20:22 < bridge> <kollpotato> lets just bridge every irc network to ddnet
20:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Because evil takeover
20:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> reading bridged messages is pain tbh
20:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408879312043511898/image.png?ex=68ab589b&is=68aa071b&hm=d5db763c82a1c9d71f664731002622505a750c39a8505bd7d7110e7b6438066f&
20:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> omg helo admin
20:24 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Still Better than another level of ws-bridge
20:24 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Or however I called it
20:24 < bridge> <kollpotato> i wonder if bridge can also post messages like matrix
20:25 < bridge> <kollpotato> with username and avatar (random one)
20:25 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408879771554938981/image.png?ex=68ab5909&is=68aa0789&hm=7ad735dcebe23e3620e942ae8b320509856fb9fff411ae2aa9afeb64a1bc9a80&
20:25 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Maybe permission wise
20:25 < bridge> <chillerdragon> But there is no data to fetch from irc
20:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> oh ye
20:25 < bridge> <chillerdragon> There are no avatars
20:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> i was there in freenet downfall
20:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> omg im drunk
20:25 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Xxxxxd
20:25 < bridge> <kollpotato> no avatars, but
20:25 < bridge> <kollpotato> u can make a command for that
20:25 < bridge> <kollpotato> !set-avatar
20:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Cring
20:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Avatars bloat
20:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> xd
20:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> minecraft type chat is based
20:26 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> relative cinema :greenthing:
20:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes
20:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> fixed cinema
20:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> sticky cinema
20:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> static cinema
20:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> afk
20:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> btw there needs to always be a haskeller in a dev chat and u fill the role
20:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> idk why i needed to say that
20:27 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> I'm not a true haskeller, I've just messed around with it a bit
20:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408880309424099429/s0l1q498p8521.png?ex=68ab5989&is=68aa0809&hm=412d8c03b0641ce78c1d484019b82dc8ff4d3081c8a5c791b42c7e5476f356d0&
20:27 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> maybe that's something to strive for
20:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> deen is a haskeller
20:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> used to be i guess
20:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408880471433285753/l6a5whqksivc1.png?ex=68ab59b0&is=68aa0830&hm=f05e7538a604688e8796b894cd3f400eea5f2ad0931c075b7a4e49457f5e82e9&
20:28 < bridge> <kollpotato> omg i love these memes
20:28 < bridge> <kollpotato> there is a rust one
20:28 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408880623870935261/stop-doing-rust-v0-0s8en3lze9qc1.png?ex=68ab59d4&is=68aa0854&hm=7fdd1483fb5341a4a388bd55eeb322c89b31ec427dfd6edd4809d596b5cb2fb5&
20:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408880839810617354/stop-using-python-v0-yo7dbdorh22b1.png?ex=68ab5a07&is=68aa0887&hm=a3f13fd33e49f82f6af9e1fe202f65831b3e5f18be6e11ddfcd3dd84f92599bf&
20:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> lmfao
20:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> ok the last one before admins start complaining
20:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408881143939465386/480863719d5480b2582d01ceadda4bfa.png?ex=68ab5a50&is=68aa08d0&hm=21ceffc16e46f9c53b2ad20e6189b8a3e458923a26daaf609baa6de21b86db0c&
20:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
20:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> xdd
20:31 < bridge> <learath2> Why would I complain about factual developer related stuff in #developer ?
20:31 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> `pub unsafe trait Cursed` was all I needed to read :lol:
20:31 < bridge> <learath2> We 100% should
20:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> oh right this is developer channel not ddnet developer channel
20:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> only 10% of this chat is ddnet development
20:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> xd
20:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> this has always been the case
20:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> astrophysics is more common than ddnet here
20:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> but it makes sence
20:33 < bridge> <learath2> Only rule is that you need to cut it out if there is actual ddnet devconvo going
20:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar
20:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> public and unsafe and trait named Cursed
20:33 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> KWAY-zar
20:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> can it be rewritten in rust?
20:33 < bridge> <Ewan> strangest interpretation of the allegory of the cave i've seen
20:33 < bridge> <Ewan> DNA tree
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> hi owon
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> my only american friend
20:34 < bridge> <Ewan> how's it going
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> good i guess
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> i onlyt deleted an entire db
20:34 < bridge> <Ewan> on purpose, no doubt
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
20:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> :feelsbadman:
20:34 < bridge> <Ewan> :justatest:
20:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> what about wiki
20:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> working with zwelf
20:35 < bridge> <learath2> When are you fixing it btw? I'll have to call the lawyers
20:35 < bridge> <kollpotato> oka
20:35 < bridge> <Ewan> what was the db
20:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> soon tm cant fix it entirely tho
20:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> ddnet wiki db
20:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> why didi i bring this up
20:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> im retarded
20:36 < bridge> <Ewan> rip
20:36 < bridge> <Ewan> were there backups?
20:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes
20:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> :pepeW:
20:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> this is the drama
20:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> they were faulty
20:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> read whole thing in #wiki
20:36 < bridge> <learath2> I wish someone would work on the avx512 part of valgrind. It's been unavailable to me for so long
20:36 < bridge> <Ewan> idk wiki
20:36 < bridge> <Ewan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408882721630978059/image.png?ex=68ab5bc8&is=68aa0a48&hm=3b9a4ad7b44226ffd67ea6d0ae75beda9906d35cc4ce6721bc1284aa12ae0a12&
20:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> @mpft tldr im not good sysadmin
20:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> im just a filthy rust dev
20:37 < bridge> <Ewan> did u just do an evil query
20:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> i did a query thinking i had working backups
20:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> but nop
20:37 < bridge> <learath2> Just read #wiki or scroll up here
20:38 < bridge> <Ewan> foreign runes
20:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> we have sacrificed the old wiki to get a better one!
20:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408883020999557200/image.png?ex=68ab5c0f&is=68aa0a8f&hm=82420b5f5e768a8751649f647279a1157625737050cbb6a1e3b20528965fff80&
20:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
20:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> dokuwiki is pog tho no db
20:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> to debug simd?
20:38 < bridge> <Ewan> idk if the db was the issue
20:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> ye
20:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> why is no db bad
20:39 < bridge> <Ewan> i'm kinda surprised there were no automated backups. sad to hear
20:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> i mean its good
20:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> u can probably zip everything and its a backup
20:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> there were automated
20:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> jhust the automation was silently broken
20:39 < bridge> <Ewan> :feelsbadman:
20:39 < bridge> <Ewan> relational databases have the means to backup as a file usually
20:39 < bridge> <Ewan> a big old file
20:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> worked fine for years till they removed mysqldump in favour of mariadb-dump inside mariadb containers
20:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> yea
20:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> there would be no such issue with databeless wiki
20:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> but who knows
20:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> there would be no such issue with databaseless wiki
20:42 < bridge> <louis> db for wiki sounds weird
20:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> lets do a git based wiki
20:43 < bridge> <kollpotato> my first proposal
20:44 < bridge> <kollpotato> but there will be 4 people contributing at most
20:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://www.howtogeek.com/i-run-a-full-linux-desktop-in-docker-just-because-i-can/
20:44 < bridge> <Ewan> stupid
20:45 < bridge> <pioooooo> use git as backup
20:46 < bridge> <kollpotato> is it possible to have both git for developers and a ui for normal people
20:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> if only all ppl knew how to use a computer the way its meant
20:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> with a terminal
20:47 < bridge> <kollpotato> like deen does xd
20:48 < bridge> <louis> im sure theres git wiki with web ui editing
20:48 < bridge> <Ewan> i don't think a db switch is gonna fix any issue here
20:49 < bridge> <Ewan> it's the backup scripting that was broken
20:49 < bridge> <kollpotato> theres not even enough normal ui wiki software
20:49 < bridge> <Ewan> git would be nice but if there are frequent db backups being made & you can confirm that then it accomplishes the same thing
20:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> git diffs are also different
20:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> they are only made by lines
20:50 < bridge> <kollpotato> something like mediawiki can show diffs by words
20:51 < bridge> <Ewan> it already shows change history
20:51 < bridge> <Ewan> i get why git would be beneficial but that requires potential wiki contributors to learn a new software unless you can do a git backend for mediawiki via plugin (which would be very nice)
20:51 < bridge> <Ewan> imo you just need something like pushbullet to alert you when a backup fails
20:52 < bridge> <Ewan> a backup failing due to unexpected changes in command name could still happen if using git or making zips yourself, albeit less likely
20:52 < bridge> <kollpotato> backup can fail silently as happened to ddnet wiki
20:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> cuz im bad xd
20:52 < bridge> <Ewan> not if you set it up to alert you when it fails...
20:53 < bridge> <Ewan> if ur script is just all the commands for backup in order ofc it'd fail silently
20:53 < bridge> <Ewan> if ur not checking status codes and existence of commands, or if you don't `set -e`, that's prone to happen
20:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> u can be the next wiki maintainer
20:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> ryozuki wants to resign
20:54 < bridge> <Ewan> i'm not strictly opposed but i'd need some time to get it set up
20:54 < bridge> <Ewan> also someone else is probably better suited but i still would consider it
20:54 < bridge> <Assa> I wish ryo would have been able to give me some stats, otherwise I have a small nuc standing around where I'd host the wikie for 1€ per month
20:54 < bridge> <Ewan> well i could host it for free
20:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> how
20:54 < bridge> <Ewan> connections
20:55 < bridge> <Ewan> if we don't need the disk to be resilient and can do daily git backups that should be fine
20:55 < bridge> <Assa> the 1€ would also just be the domain xD
20:55 < bridge> <Ewan> yea ig i pay for my domain but it should only be available via ddnet domain imo
20:56 < bridge> <knusk1> wtf does this mean
20:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> sane people cant know
20:57 < bridge> <knusk1> i guess i can count myself lucky then
20:57 < bridge> <Assa> thinking about it, a smart stalker could guess my domain :justatest:
20:57 < bridge> <knusk1> a good guesser could also do that
20:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes
20:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> like internet crawlers
20:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> forum gets 17k ghost visits per month
20:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> i already said
20:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> ihad wiki uses php and mariadb, i had better search with a  plugin that uses elasticsearch
20:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> which uses more ram
20:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> but how much ram
20:59 < bridge> <Assa> php and mariadb are still maintained, I don't get the hate
20:59 < bridge> <Assa> php 8 isn't even that bad
20:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> well its not rust duuh
21:00 < bridge> <Ewan> language has nothing to do with how stable the product is when ur talking about things of that scale
21:01 < bridge> <Ewan> tho i'd prefer a postgres backend
21:01 < bridge> <Assa> that's not entirely true, scaling is a thing and you might be able to accept more connections with one langed to another due to performance and hardware issues
21:01 < bridge> <Assa> that's not entirely true, scaling is a thing and you might be able to accept more connections with one lang compared to another due to performance and hardware issues
21:01 < bridge> <Ewan> that only has to do with the way you deploy it
21:02 < bridge> <Assa> like it doesn't matter if your rust service runs on 2Mb of ram, if you can only accept 100 connections before the network goes down
21:02 < bridge> <Assa> yes ofc
21:02 < bridge> <Ewan> do u have practical examples
21:02 < bridge> <Ewan> yea it's possible in theory but there's a big world of networking out there lol
21:02 < bridge> <Ewan> lots of ppl who had those problems and solved them
21:02 < bridge> <Assa> I am talking about self hosted
21:03 < bridge> <Ewan> ddnet should get an oxide computer trial :kek:
21:03 < bridge> <Assa> real world example? Google uses multiple loadbalancers doing a round robyn over them, each load balancer also doing a round robin
21:04 < bridge> <Assa> yes, that would be overkill for the ddnet wiki :kek:
21:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> it wont get over 50 users online at the same time
21:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> but what if ddnet skyrockets and gets 20k players a month
21:07 < bridge> <Assa> then the dev channel will hopefully get 10x as much people willing to help :justatest:
21:07 < bridge> <learath2> No, well not directly. If anything gets optimized down to an avx512 instruction it just can't run on valgrind
21:08 < bridge> <kollpotato> yes 10x more features heinrich can reject
21:08 < bridge> <kollpotato> (jk)
21:09 < bridge> <kollpotato> i know that rust iterators can get optimized to vector instructions, but does c++ do something like that?
21:09 < bridge> <Assa> yesn't, than the current casual setup would need overthinking xD
21:09 < bridge> <Assa> like with 10x more devs, I guess contributing and mainting will be harder
21:10 < bridge> <learath2> Well idk what it is exactly but my glibc uses avx512 instructions for something
21:10 < bridge> <kollpotato> dear lerato who are these people in ddnet organization on github?
21:10 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408891176509243584/image.png?ex=68ab63a8&is=68aa1228&hm=f209bb0a7cc16966d570e6c60603e27dd63949a53a48d67cc55e4150e4d94ecc&
21:10 < bridge> <learath2> Imagine not knowing HMH, smh
21:10 < bridge> <milkeeycat> the second guy has a popular rust project
21:10 < bridge> <Assa> who dat?
21:11 < bridge> <kollpotato> yeah i think i discovered it once without knowing he has connections to ddnet
21:11 < bridge> <kollpotato> who the first one is
21:11 < bridge> <kollpotato> does he have perms to merge
21:11 < bridge> <kollpotato> maybe a villain comeback
21:14 < bridge> <Ewan> hmh hosts monster or something?
21:15 < bridge> <pioooooo> https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
21:16 < bridge> <learath2> Ekidoxx is Soreu iirc
21:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> i did my research i know that!
21:16 < bridge> <kollpotato> but what did he do in ddnet
21:17 < bridge> <learath2> Couple commits here and there, I don't remember exactly what
21:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> he decided to ditch js.wiki
21:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1408892986087051354/image.png?ex=68ab6557&is=68aa13d7&hm=f2855fde7d996c0cf2597680421f995b385afd84b42bb44515c020be2b7ab737&
21:17 < bridge> <kollpotato> but maybe it is still an option
21:18 < bridge> <kollpotato> i should learn to link messages instead of taking screenshots
21:18 < bridge> <learath2> Why not just MediaWiki? It was pretty
21:18 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/871738312849752104/1408063672210952282
21:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> actually i wanted to ask that too
21:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> it worked just fine
21:19 < bridge> <kollpotato> just a little silliness with backups
21:19 < bridge> <learath2> The silliness with backups was just user error anyway, not MediaWiki's fault
21:20 < bridge> <kollpotato> ryozuki pulled the oy move
21:21 < bridge> <kollpotato> someone else has to be the wiki maintainer now
21:24 < bridge> <learath2> Oy never made mistakes
21:24 < bridge> <learath2> He was just a very serious and to the point person
21:32 < bridge> <louis> Yeah thats soreu
21:32 < bridge> <louis> i recognize the pfp also its same color scheme as sorgores so irrefutable proof
21:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> ty for historical info
21:40 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah we really do not need another wiki software IMO
21:41 < bridge> <Ewan> how are you gonna beat mediawiki? the wikimedia foundation has to put a lot into it, considering it serves one of the top 10 most visited websites
21:58 < bridge> <robyt3> I randomly discovered https://github.com/H-M-H/Weylus and then noticed that it was maintained by a DDNet member. It would have been really useful to test the Android touch controls on Windows, but touch emulation seems broken and the project isn't being actively maintained anymore.
22:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> is this not what rust desk does?
22:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> or any screen mirroing thingy
22:09 < bridge> <Ewan> i've seen several similar projects
22:09 < bridge> <Ewan> it's ok tho
22:09 < bridge> <robyt3> Haven't found any that actually produce touch events on the target device
22:09 < bridge> <Ewan> 8k stars is awesome for a ddnet contributor
22:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> (rustdesk is the only one for me that has "just worked")
22:09 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> idk if it can do touch inputs tho
22:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/6537