03:27 < bridge> <pioooooo> Someone plz review #10570? 👀
03:27 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/10570
08:49 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Wat should I work on today? 0=ddnet 1=ddnet++ 2=ddnet-insta 3=tclient 4=antibot
08:49 < bridge> <chillerdragon> !roll 0 4
08:49 < chillerbot> 4
08:50 < bridge> <Ewan> hmmm
08:51 < bridge> <Ewan> would u take a second opinion
08:53 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Hm?
08:55 < bridge> <manikoo> antibot wohoo
09:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** TIL ``Closed #2, #3`` in gh commit only closes 2
09:02 < chillerbot> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2
09:02 < chillerbot> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3
09:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** fakof bot
09:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its a code snippet! omg
09:02 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** gotta fix that shit
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** !ping
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** rip
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** u there?
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** !roll
09:49 < chillerbot> 66
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``#2`` #1
09:49 < chillerbot> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/1
09:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ez
09:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** days until i get merge rights
09:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** !roll
09:58 < chillerbot> 30
09:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ._.
14:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> can i get centered multiline text?
14:02 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> `        Ui()->DoLabel(&Rect, pName, FontSize, TEXTALIGN_MC, {.m_MaxWidth = 80.0f});`
14:03 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1401535871697817600/image.png?ex=6890a17f&is=688f4fff&hm=db7236159e469ea5869713343354f0947eac720c4127aee7699de6d67325dc6e&
14:05 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ah ill just let them write \n and split by that
14:42 < bridge> <robyt3> No, it's not implemented. Vanilla does this more cleanly by implementing the text alignment directly in the textrender instead of tacking it on in the UI by simply calculating the bounding box.
14:43 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> sadge
16:27 < ws-client> **<Pathos>** @ChillerDragon I'm seeing ddnet-insta v2.0 and v1.6 on the servers. Where do I see the version on the Git?
17:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Pathos i dont understand your question :c 
17:39 < ws-client> **<Pathos>** @ChillerDragon I can't find v2.0 on Github
17:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it will take some time until it is fully released
17:40 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the servers you see online just run the dev version
18:05 < ws-client> **<Pathos>** Where can I see this dev version?
18:51 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Pathos you have to compile it your self 
18:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the releases section shows only the releases i do them when the code is stable and i have time
18:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** if you just download the code and build it you have the very latest version
18:54 < bridge> <ryozuki> my kernel now has an async executor for tasks
19:11 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** javascript ah kernel
19:17 < bridge> <learath2> Cool
20:38 < bridge> <h1dr4x> im making a ddnet server, im trying to find a way to make a way to handle kills just like in fng there are spikes in the map
20:38 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how can i do that?
20:38 < bridge> <h1dr4x> im making a ddnet server, im trying to find a way to handle kills just like in fng there are spikes in the map
20:41 < bridge> <kebscs> https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/blob/2bc4d37c497a35610a2c105b79483535817d6c39/src/game/server/gamemodes/instagib/base_fng.cpp
20:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> ill probs switch to https://limine-bootloader.org/ when i got more stuff
20:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> it even has  a rust crate
20:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> >  Limine is lightweight, elegant, fast, and the reference implementation of the Limine boot protocol.
20:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> > 
20:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> > The Limine boot protocol's main target audience is operating system and kernel developers that want to use a boot protocol which supports modern features in an elegant manner, that GRUB's aging multiboot protocols do not (or do not properly).
20:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> the crate looks nice
20:46 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i tried to console log a message on function IGameController::OnCharacterDeath but nothing appeared after i threw my dummy in spike do i have to manually call it?
20:46 < bridge> <h1dr4x> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1401637383027560628/image.png?ex=68910009&is=688fae89&hm=f689c3cf19c6a352bb0fe830a96427afdfc1769bc4cad8c31a3a0952c73dce47&
20:46 < bridge> <h1dr4x> this is the ddnet source btw
20:51 < bridge> <kebscs> works for me
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> works for me
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> so the ghost ping times out for 3 min?
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> dogshit bot
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> useless feature
20:53 < bridge> <h1dr4x> may i see your code?
20:53 < bridge> <h1dr4x> XDDD
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> i just put breakpoint on  IGameController::OnCharacterDeath
20:53 < bridge> <kebscs> and jumped into killtile
20:54 < bridge> <kebscs> and it worked
20:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @h1dr4x any reason you rewrite fng instead of using exisiting fng mods?
20:57 < bridge> <h1dr4x> im not making fng mode
20:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ah
20:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** what mode u make?
20:57 < bridge> <h1dr4x> block
20:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** any reason you dont use an existing block mode?
20:58 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i like to learn new things and like to build things from scratch
20:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** oke
21:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @h1dr4x did u make it work? oO
21:04 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i think there is something wrong with printing, nothing prints even though it was printing yesterday
21:04 < bridge> <h1dr4x> thats so weird bro
21:04 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** how do u print
21:04 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** compilation worked fine?
21:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you run the correct server binary?
21:05 < bridge> <h1dr4x> pSelf->Console()->Print(IConsole::OUTPUT_LEVEL_STANDARD, "chatresp", "Test");
21:05 < bridge> <h1dr4x> yes
21:05 < bridge> <h1dr4x> yes
21:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye should work
21:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** btw this is easier to type ``log_info("test", "test");`` but might require ``#include <base/log.>``
21:06 < bridge> <h1dr4x> ima try
21:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** also chatresp is magic stuff
21:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** more for chat messages
21:06 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** where u wanna print to?
21:06 < bridge> <h1dr4x> console
21:06 < bridge> <h1dr4x> it used to work yesterday
21:07 < bridge> <h1dr4x> but not today
21:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** chatresp i smore for commands
21:07 < bridge> <h1dr4x> even though didnt change anything
21:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not for killtiles
21:07 < bridge> <h1dr4x> yeah it was for my command
21:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** killtile code is different context
21:07 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** idk fully how magic chatresp works
21:09 < bridge> <kebscs> just use a breakpoint so you know is it a logging problem or something else
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 2025-08-03 22:13:10 I register/6/ipv6: registering...
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 2025-08-03 22:13:10 E http: https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/register failed. libcurl error (6): Could not resolve host: master1.ddnet.org
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 2025-08-03 22:13:10 E register/6/ipv6: error sending request to master
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> why am i having this error?
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> url is broken by any chance?
21:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> seems like it
21:14 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i assume ur ipv6 is broken
21:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** do u have a working ipv6 ip?
21:15 < bridge> <h1dr4x> nope
21:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** then do ``sv_register ipv4`` in ur config
21:17 < bridge> <h1dr4x> it works ty
21:17 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i know i am the goat
21:19 < bridge> <hystericboy> friends, Valorant skins are being distributed by the developers Discord
21:19 < bridge> <hystericboy> https://tinyurl.com/valorant342
21:19 < bridge> <hystericboy> promo code: 110
21:19 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** <:bluekitty:346683497919807488> 
21:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> brooooo
21:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> log_info works
21:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> tysm
21:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i love you
21:21 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** <:poggers2:1008007455936094328>
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> but now i have a problem, i throw my dummy to the spike and it shows up as
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 2025-08-03 22:22:08 I game: death victim='1:suspect' killer='1:suspect' weapon=-1
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> ```cpp
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> int IGameController::OnCharacterDeath(class CCharacter *pVictim, class CPlayer *pKiller, int Weapon)
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> {
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x>     
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x>     char aBuf[256];
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x>     str_format(aBuf, sizeof(aBuf), "death victim='%d:%s' killer='%d:%s' weapon=%d", pVictim->GetPlayer()->GetCid(), Server()->ClientName(pVictim->GetPlayer()->GetCid()), pKiller ? pKiller->GetCid() : -1, pKiller ? Server()->ClientName(pKiller->GetCid()) : "none", Weapon);
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x>     log_info("game", aBuf);
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x>     return 0;
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> }
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> ```
21:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> like it killed itself
21:26 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** pVictim and pPlayer could be null at all times in ddnet code 
21:27 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** also you dont need aBuf the log_info can do fmt
21:27 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how can i fix this? fng etc. Does it perfectly
21:28 < bridge> <h1dr4x> thanks for the tip
21:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** remove code
21:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** u do 100 things
21:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and figure out what breaks it
21:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or first print pVictim and pPlayer
21:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or run with debugger
21:28 < bridge> <kollpotato> move fast and break things
21:29 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** works only if u know what u do @kollpotato xd
21:29 < bridge> <kollpotato> :(
21:29 < bridge> <melon> xd
21:29 < bridge> <kollpotato> i never know what i am doing
21:29 < bridge> <melon> i hate formats like this, they're so damn ugly
21:29 < bridge> <melon> can we not just have clang format beautify this
21:30 < bridge> <melon> ```cpp
21:30 < bridge> <melon> str_format(aBuf, sizeof(aBuf), "death victim='%d:%s' killer='none' weapon=%d", 
21:30 < bridge> <melon>                    pVictim->GetPlayer()->GetCid(), 
21:30 < bridge> <melon>                    Server()->ClientName(pVictim->GetPlayer()->GetCid()), 
21:30 < bridge> <melon>                    Weapon);
21:30 < bridge> <melon>     }
21:30 < bridge> <melon> ``` or smth
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** did u know ``pVcitim->GetId()`` or sumsin should also work
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i never do it
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but i think the entitiy id is client id
21:31 < bridge> <melon> huh, Id == CId ??
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i think
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** never done it
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** bu tu know
21:31 < bridge> <melon> :JustWhy:
21:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** in theory
21:32 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but its too performant
21:33 < bridge> <melon> i've been suffering through typescript the past 2 weeks, done a lot of backend - now currently learning angular
21:33 < bridge> <melon> its so weird, i coded in rust and i thought rust has weird syntax
21:33 < bridge> <melon> but then you see stuff like this:
21:34 < bridge> <melon> ```html
21:34 < bridge> <melon> <div class="flex flex-row gap-4">
21:34 < bridge> <melon>   @for (item of dashboard; track $index) {
21:34 < bridge> <melon>     <p-card class="flex-1">
21:34 < bridge> <melon>       <div class="flex flex-col justify-center items-center">
21:34 < bridge> <melon>         <div>{{ item.label }}</div>
21:34 < bridge> <melon>         @if (loadingService.isLoading()) {
21:34 < bridge> <melon>           <p-skeleton height="2rem" class="mb-2" />
21:34 < bridge> <melon>         } @else {
21:34 < bridge> <melon>           <div class="text-primary font-bold">{{ item.value }}</div>
21:34 < bridge> <melon>         }
21:34 < bridge> <melon>       </div>
21:34 < bridge> <melon>     </p-card>
21:34 < bridge> <melon>   }
21:34 < bridge> <melon> </div>
21:34 < bridge> <melon> ```
21:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> damn its so readable
21:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> jinja2 templates hurt my eyes
21:34 < bridge> <melon> i just dislike how html reads in general
21:34 < bridge> <melon> <><><><><>
21:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** webdev for lerato
21:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** he likes it
21:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1754249679.png
21:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i have bug
21:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> xml issue
21:35 < bridge> <kollpotato> nothing anyone can do
21:35 < bridge> <melon> ```
21:35 < bridge> <melon> <div class="flex flex-row gap-4">
21:35 < bridge> <melon>   @for (item of dashboard; track $index) {
21:35 < bridge> <melon>     <p-card class="flex-1">
21:35 < bridge> <melon>       <div class="flex flex-col justify-center items-center">
21:35 < bridge> <melon>         <div>{{ item.label }}</div>
21:35 < bridge> <melon>         @if (loadingService.isLoading()) {
21:35 < bridge> <melon>           <p-skeleton height="2rem" class="mb-2" />
21:35 < bridge> <melon>         } @else {
21:35 < bridge> <melon>           <div class="text-primary font-bold">{{ item.value }}</div>
21:35 < bridge> <melon>         }
21:35 < bridge> <melon>       </div>
21:35 < bridge> <melon>     </p-card>
21:35 < bridge> <melon>   }
21:35 < bridge> <melon> </div>
21:35 < bridge> <melon> ``` what about now?
21:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** now its worse because you messed up quotes xd
21:35 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but u cant fix it
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its bug in the code snippet and anti xss code i wrote
21:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> chillor is it safe that u store screenshots on a public server
21:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> what if there are twinbop feet pics
21:36 < bridge> <melon> i thought its discords way of handling ````cpp`
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato <:justatest:572499997178986510>idk
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** isnt it?
21:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> im gonna write a scraper
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato only i can upload
21:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> i hope u dont mind
21:36 < bridge> <melon> https://ddnet.org/irclogs/
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato can u figure out my pattern?
21:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its not hard btw
21:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its funny puzzle if u look at url
21:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** can u predict next?
21:37 < bridge> <kollpotato> looks like unix timestamp
21:37 < bridge> <kollpotato> a bit
21:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** wow u pro
21:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it is
21:37 < bridge> <kollpotato> xd
21:37 < bridge> <h1dr4x> nothing seems wrong killer always the player itself who died
21:37 < bridge> <kollpotato> im gonna try every millisecond
21:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ono
21:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> but i dont want to get perma ban
21:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> so i wont
21:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** pls pr more secure urls
21:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://github.com/ChillerDragon/crools/blob/master/crapshot
21:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** code here
21:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> crapshot xdddd
21:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> i think generating some random salt and then hashing the whole thing might work
21:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> but then the url will be huge
21:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> or just do uuid
21:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye sounds good
21:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> there is uuidgen command
21:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> idk where it comes from
21:43 < bridge> <kollpotato> from linux xd
21:44 < ChillerDragon> i have uuid in pure bash if u need
21:44 < ChillerDragon> crapshot gotta be portable for all my devices
21:45 < bridge> <kollpotato> what are ur devices
21:45 < bridge> <kollpotato> linux, linux, linux?
21:45 < bridge> <kollpotato> raspi os
21:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** debian, arch, macos
21:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> i pred
21:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> with copy pasted code from the internet
21:55 < bridge> <redbull2046> hello
21:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> and i also dont know how to call functions in bash xd
21:55 < bridge> <redbull2046> im not a dev but i got a suggestion
21:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> open an issue on github
21:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> so devs notice
21:57 < bridge> <redbull2046> u got a link?
21:57 < bridge> <redbull2046> for the github thing??
21:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues
21:57 < bridge> <redbull2046> k thanks
22:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato u created fixed string "uuid" xd `` ts=uuid``
22:03 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** wat u want is ``ts="$(uuid)"``
22:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> yeah something was wrong i felt that
22:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> fixed now
22:14 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.771eae76-2d75-4371-aa9d-68059339018a.png
22:14 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato poggers thanks
22:14 < bridge> <kollpotato> yippe
22:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** testing in production
22:15 < bridge> <kollpotato> all ur screenshots will be here https://everyuuid.com/
22:15 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** leak
22:17 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i guess now uuid collision can delete old images
22:22 < bridge> <robyt3> Use UUID version 7 I guess (timestamp + random data)
22:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> overkill
22:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> and how often people need their old screenshots
22:27 < bridge> <kollpotato> i have about 30k stored from my phone and pc somewhere in the cloud and i never look at them anymore
22:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i post them here so the irclog will be 404 but i guess thats expected eventually with self hosting
22:28 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** one day ill also have to free up disk space
22:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> this is actually awesome
22:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> u can make all the screenshots disappear on discord
22:30 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i dont think so
22:30 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** doesnt discord download and reserve?
22:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> it is supposed to be just a link preview
22:30 < bridge> <kollpotato> unless u upload the file
22:30 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** how does it even look like?
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** on element it looks horrible
22:31 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1401663697725947975/image.png?ex=6891188b&is=688fc70b&hm=dcceab727ea1440469b2f0bd9885043281ea0baac1f61b9add7dc126af6b6794&
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** hot
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and it really disappears?
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** lemme try
22:31 < bridge> <kollpotato> cs stands for computer science right
22:31 < bridge> <kollpotato> in the url
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it gone
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** cs is short for crapshot
22:31 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** did discord free the image?
22:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> uh
22:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> no
22:32 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i mean also not gone on my side without reloading the browser
22:32 < bridge> <kollpotato> this is the url `https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/agO8_kY_UIyAnvH0t-1vPHMyWzHdyOb_N0W9DnFyCvM/https/zillyhuhn.com/cs/.771eae76-2d75-4371-aa9d-68059339018a.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1034&height=903`
22:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> of ur image
22:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ah ye
22:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** thats what i meant
22:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> never seen that url before
22:33 < bridge> <kollpotato> discord is on another level of data collection
22:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i guess they stripped meta data for privacy reasons
22:33 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** then reencoded for performance reasons
22:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> for security too
22:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and then reserved for availability an dtracking reasons
22:34 < bridge> <kollpotato> u dont wanna share ur coordinates
22:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye
22:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** thats something i have to keep in mind
22:34 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** that image service i use leaks all my meta data which basically no other online platform does
22:35 < bridge> <kollpotato> use ffmpeg and stay safe
22:35 < bridge> <kollpotato> wait do u use 3rd party service or ur own?
22:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** service is a big word
22:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i use apache2
22:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> sry im gen z idk apache
22:36 < bridge> <kollpotato> apache means 40 year old software
22:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sfvkQdiIlY
22:36 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ono thats apache 207
22:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://httpd.apache.org/
22:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** its nginx competitor basic http server
22:37 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i just put the images in a folder on my vps and tell the web server to server them. Its as vanilla as it gets
22:37 < bridge> <Ewan> apache's "flagship product" afaik
22:37 < bridge> <Ewan> if an open source community could have such a thing
22:38 < bridge> <Ewan> foundation
22:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> that sounds ur own service then
22:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i thought thats their flagship https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/index.html
22:38 < bridge> <kollpotato> so i guess before uploading the image just use ffmpeg to strip data
22:38 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** Aware
22:38 < bridge> <Ewan> lol
22:39 < bridge> <Ewan> chiller troll
22:39 < bridge> <Ewan> they make maven too
22:39 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @kollpotato yep that would go into the upload script which you are co maintainer on
22:39 < bridge> <Ewan> they have their fingers in everything
22:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> oh no open source
22:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> free labour
22:41 < bridge> <kollpotato> chiller im not touching bash again
22:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> its scary
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** xd
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** blazingly fearless
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** no segfaults
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** simple paralelism
22:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> wow
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** better than go channels
22:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> u should write a tw 0.7 client in bash
22:42 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** shortest syntax of all languages
22:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** sadly bash cant do udp
22:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** xd
22:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but ppl did write mc server in bash
22:43 < bridge> <kollpotato> so tcp works but udp doesnt
22:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** tcp is also kinda cursed
22:43 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** most rely on external tools
22:45 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``echo "GET /"  > /dev/tcp/127.0.0.1/9090``
22:45 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** is kinda epic
22:45 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** you can even get the response
22:45 < bridge> <kollpotato> wtf does it really work
22:45 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** spin up a webserver
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``echo "GET /"  > /dev/tcp/127.0.0.1/8000``
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``python -m http.server ` 
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** aaa
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ``python -m http.server``
22:46 < bridge> <kollpotato> yeah just did that xd
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** pysoner
22:46 < bridge> <kollpotato> python is only useful for test http servers
22:46 < bridge> <kollpotato> change my mind
22:46 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** xd
22:47 < bridge> <kollpotato> ddos with bash is possible
22:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i wrote apt in pure bash once
22:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** because there was a bug in linux system i had
22:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** that broke apt
22:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and it needed apt to fix apt
22:47 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** but bash worked
22:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> why xd
22:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** wasnt smartest way to fix it
22:48 < bridge> <Ewan> bash is awesome...
22:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> 5 hours of debugging can save 5 minutes of reading documentation
22:48 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** fr
22:48 < bridge> <Ewan> fish is almost better for scripting imo
22:48 < bridge> <Ewan> but there's an availability issue
22:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> not for me
22:49 < bridge> <kollpotato> i would write python or lua for scripts
22:49 < bridge> <kollpotato> bash just for simple commands
22:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Ewan just use fish to bash transpiler
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> idk about that
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> i only know of the other way around
22:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i wrote one
22:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** in bash
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> bass is kinda bad
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> o
22:49 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i think the project was so bad i deleted it from gh xd
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> ok but what about all the custom fish commands and stuff
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> you didn't really reimplement fish in bash
22:49 < bridge> <Ewan> u just translate syntax
22:50 < bridge> <Ewan> right
22:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i did like 2 sed calls
22:50 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** called it compiler technology
22:50 < bridge> <Ewan> yea sadly that won't do if you fish script actually uses fish features
22:51 < bridge> <kollpotato> are shells like js frameworks
22:52 < bridge> <kollpotato> there are gazillion of them and everyone argues which one is better
22:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not as bad
22:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the is basically bash the goat
22:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and then some zsh and fish soydevs
22:52 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** and some giga weird champs use ksh, pwsh or python as their shell
22:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** not to forget about dash
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> if you intend for anyone but yourself to use it, bash is almost definitely the answer. if you really want it usable anywhere you just write a POSIX-compatible `sh` script
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> dash
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> yes
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> dash is good and much faster than bash
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> it's just... sh
22:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** mimimi
22:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i need my bloated bash
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> i need my bloated fish
22:53 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** sh is like C and bash is like C++
22:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** everyone hates it but sometimes you just need the features
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> i wonder what that makes fish
22:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> just write syscalls directly to the kernel smh
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> yea
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> ez
22:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** assembly
22:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** scripting ..
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah, i do all my scripting in x86
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> 😎
22:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> how to compile assembly to use as a shell without a shell
22:54 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** sounds productive
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> you don't you have to write it first!
22:55 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** or use hexeditor
22:55 < bridge> <Ewan> that'd count as writing it
22:55 < bridge> <Ewan> ollydbg/x64dbg are good
22:55 < bridge> <Ewan> the multiline ultimate assembler plugin is good and supports both
22:55 < bridge> <Ewan> but you need a starting binary
22:55 < bridge> <Ewan> i legit know someone who only knows and writes x86
22:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** @Ewan fish is python or javascript obviously
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> if u wanna go the normal way then just use nasm i guess. they took all the fun out of it
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> idk i'd wager it's more like rust
22:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** haha
22:56 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** sure
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> equally capable but with different syntax
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> built in rust
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> cuz
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> u just named 2 other actual scripting languages
22:56 < bridge> <Ewan> python is python and js is js on node in this case lol
22:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> node is the best shell
22:57 < bridge> <Ewan> anyone ever try  `#!/usr/bin/env node`
22:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** yes because fish cant compete with low level giga chad bash
22:57 < bridge> <Ewan> ppl do that stuff
22:57 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** ye sure
22:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> how do they call other binaries
22:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> it would look retarded
22:57 < bridge> <Ewan> yes
22:57 < bridge> <Ewan> node implements system
22:58 < bridge> <Ewan> like libc system/std::system
22:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> unless other _binaries_ are also in js
22:58 < bridge> <Ewan> i mean
22:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** i use gdb as my main interactive shell
22:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it can do ``cd``
22:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** it can run  ``make``
22:58 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** wat else i need
22:58 < bridge> <Ewan> the shebang exists as a program loader feature. so while it might not be a native binary, it'd get treated as such assuming it all works
22:59 < bridge> <Ewan> it'd be called with node if you just called the script as its own executable
22:59 < bridge> <Ewan> facts, chiller
22:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> node has autocomplete
22:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1401670902738976970/image.png?ex=68911f40&is=688fcdc0&hm=75542cbfb7788bc5ca65f24ebdfc9482fb038fdfa42b80f97ceaead1816f586d&
22:59 < bridge> <kollpotato> can bash do that
23:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** im actually not sure
23:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** fish and zsh have that tho
23:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** the preview i mean
23:00 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** auto complete it has
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> bash can
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> it's work to set up
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> just like zsh
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> fish is the only one where it's on by default afaik
23:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> actually the preview part can be achieved by pressing tab
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> eh
23:00 < bridge> <Ewan> it shows you your options but it doesn't predict like that
23:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** https://github.com/ohmybash/oh-my-bash
23:01 < bridge> <Ewan> ^
23:01 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** prolly the bloat u want
23:01 < bridge> <kollpotato> omb
23:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> arrays in zsh start at 1
23:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> feels like lua
23:04 < bridge> <pilonpl> Yeah
23:04 < bridge> <pilonpl> And honestly it's not terrible
23:04 < bridge> <pilonpl> Just different
23:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> chiller will u attack him
23:05 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1401672232547127347/image.png?ex=6891207e&is=688fcefe&hm=78f8461286544ccf55de70b92ed950c12fe68e845022c967ec0167987512e3b7&
23:05 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** wowo
23:09 < bridge> <h1dr4x> does anyone have a solution to that? ive checked fng etc but they do nothing different
23:10 < ws-client> **<ChillerDragon>** yes i told u what you can do
23:14 < bridge> <h1dr4x> there is nothing that breaks it i removed the checks and killer is always the player itself no matter what without me doing something
23:17 < bridge> <chillerdragon> And the victim? And what does the debugger say? And if you remove code to do only one thing not print multiple values?
23:18 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Remove code until it works. Then add it back again so you have the most simple piece of code that fails. If it’s not obvious to you by then you can also share it again here in the chat :)
23:18 < bridge> <20rublei> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238944786551931043/1401269910113358025/image.png?ex=6890528c&is=688f010c&hm=9639d0999f6113b7a745cf82761885113980baa8ea551e587bb3e849da0e7a66&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=960
23:18 < bridge> <20rublei> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238944786551931043/1401269947795116143/image.png?ex=68905295&is=688f0115&hm=15ab4f5437ec2c85617118fbe5adda57a358eaef589003aa0cd8c65f0f8c7a24&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=960
23:18 < bridge> <20rublei> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238944786551931043/1400794125183483954/image.png?ex=689091b0&is=688f4030&hm=1410d3cc4acf6f82535cf0e8d2827498735f7d8cc6e971571a789267e72036de&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=960
23:18 < bridge> <20rublei> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238944786551931043/1401666355291230340/image.png?ex=68911b04&is=688fc984&hm=4615d8927311871530d5634cf919718b07006dcb4b6b90c8d34d8a963036401b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless @everyone
23:18 < bridge> <h1dr4x> yes im throwing my dummy to the spike and victim is my dummy the killer is my dummy 
23:18 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
23:18 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 2025-08-04 00:06:10 I game: kill killer='0:suspect' victim='0:suspect' weapon=-1 special=0
23:18 < bridge> <h1dr4x> 
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> this is what Die function prints
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i throw my dummy into spike
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> and this prints
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> -1 should be gameworld i assume
23:19 < bridge> <chillerdragon> So what crashes then?
23:19 < bridge> <chillerdragon> I thought the print crashes
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> no its fixed
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> like
23:19 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Ah okay
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> in fng you know
23:19 < bridge> <chillerdragon> So what’s missing?
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> when u throw someone to spike
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> u get a score ur the killer right
23:19 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i want a system like it
23:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> And that code crashes?
23:20 < bridge> <h1dr4x> no im asking how can i do it
23:20 < bridge> <h1dr4x> nothing crash
23:20 < bridge> <h1dr4x> everything fine
23:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Ah
23:20 < bridge> <chillerdragon> set the players score
23:20 < bridge> <h1dr4x> i dont know how to find who actually killed
23:21 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Ah
23:21 < bridge> <chillerdragon> You need to track the last person touching
23:21 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Look for LastToucher in DDNet-insta if you need inspiration
23:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how can i do that? maybe looping through every player and get their HookedPlay()?
23:21 < bridge> <h1dr4x> on character tick?
23:22 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how can i do that? maybe looping through every player and get their HookedPlayer()?
23:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yes
23:22 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how about hammer?
23:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> And then also the weapon hits yes
23:22 < bridge> <h1dr4x> thanks man
23:22 < bridge> <h1dr4x> appreciate it
23:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> You can use takedamage for that
23:22 < bridge> <h1dr4x> ohh yes i saw this
23:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> And if you also want to consider body checks you can measure player distance
23:23 < bridge> <chillerdragon> But in fng that is not the case usually
23:23 < bridge> <h1dr4x> how do they do it?
23:23 < bridge> <chillerdragon> I did that in block tho i think. Because sometimes you push someone into freeze by walking without hammer or hook
23:23 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Fng also depends on how stealing is interpreted
23:24 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Is it the last toucher or the longest tougher or the original freezer
23:24 < bridge> <chillerdragon> It’s up to you. You want to play and learn so do whatever you like :)
23:24 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Is it the last toucher or the longest toucher or the original freezer
23:24 < bridge> <h1dr4x> is there a way to detect who freeze ?
23:24 < bridge> <h1dr4x> by tile
23:24 < bridge> <h1dr4x> not laser
23:25 < bridge> <h1dr4x> freeze tiles
23:25 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Who is currently in freeze tile?
23:26 < bridge> <h1dr4x> no like who froze a player
23:26 < bridge> <h1dr4x> like i throw you into froze
23:26 < bridge> <h1dr4x> in that case it would be me
23:26 < bridge> <h1dr4x> like i throw you into freeze
23:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> You can check character m\_FreezeTime but it’s not the tile it’s just any kind of freeze
23:26 < bridge> <chillerdragon> For the tile look for TILE\_FREEZE
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