00:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> The idea was a simple floating window to perform any (custom) action on either a selection of tees (sort of a selection tool) or a spectated tee. (Since left click now automatically snaps to a tee in spectator, I'd think that's the best place for such a tool)
00:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
00:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> Custom for the purpose that it's not something only usable for ddnet (/jail for city servers for example)
00:01 < bridge> <patiga> I got patio'ed :saddo:
00:02 < bridge> <meloƞ> Just be happy Zwelf didn't get Welf'ed this time!
00:03 < bridge> <hectavoxel> looking back at this, tbh i would have tries to make the popup background a different color. idk why but the grey feels a bit ugly on relooking 😭
00:03 < bridge> <kdaniel> Damn! Sorry @patiga I was under high pressure like a diamond. I hope you can forgive me for that mistake
00:04 < bridge> <patiga> I pardon your lightning-quick action!
00:05 < bridge> <patiga> Z + patio :owo:
00:05 < bridge> <kdaniel> Did you try to pass the correct map?
00:06 < bridge> <patiga> they figured it out. --help needed to be passed to the correct subcommand
00:06 < bridge> <patiga> (to figure out that you can use --demo (probably with --world?))
00:06 < bridge> <jxsl13> https://youtu.be/a01QQZyl-_I?si=QLDCoA_YYNbD4JKt
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> @learath2 is there any way to store `S` by value? Without using `any` xd
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ```go
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> type Map[S sync.Locker, K comparable, V any] struct {
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     locker S
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     data   map[K]V
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> }
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> 
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> type MutexMap[K comparable, V any] = Map[*sync.Mutex, K, V]
09:26 < bridge> <milkeeycat> 
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat> func NewMutexMap[K comparable, V any]() MutexMap[K, V] {
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     return MutexMap[K, V]{
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat>         locker: new(sync.Mutex),
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat>         data:   make(map[K]V),
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     }
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat> }
09:27 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ```
09:35 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Why not public good video @teero777
09:43 < bridge> <teero777> xddd
09:43 < bridge> <teero777> gm
09:45 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Oh right
09:45 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yea I did not sleep yet but officially I am in morning timezone too now!
10:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351119976777519194/image.png?ex=67d93809&is=67d7e689&hm=6c8be4e685f3eb4a75c965cf20045fbddcefedb266779802263608244e10fbf0&
10:08 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351120102237540362/image.png?ex=67d93826&is=67d7e6a6&hm=349120db14af7f4ab202de1b1da798e81fbfba0cb790e3947ab22bb507f872a4&
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i could make those quad containers so they dont ahve to be recalculated every time
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> its probably not worth it tho x-x
10:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> or containers of arbritrary 2d geometry idk what theyre called
10:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 😭
10:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351120787196743741/image.png?ex=67d938ca&is=67d7e74a&hm=c37b6c1a8216a40c4ffb8aecb0b03c2aebc9ba217a4a7eb8cb9feebe3687ff8d&
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> @robyt3 
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```cpp
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if(pCursor->m_LineWidth <= 0)
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     TextContainer.m_RenderFlags = m_RenderFlags | ETextRenderFlags::TEXT_RENDER_FLAG_NO_FIRST_CHARACTER_X_BEARING | ETextRenderFlags::TEXT_RENDER_FLAG_NO_LAST_CHARACTER_ADVANCE;
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> else
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     TextContainer.m_RenderFlags = m_RenderFlags;
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> in `text.cpp`, suggests that the random text flags in nameplates are automatically applied when needed
10:39 < bridge> <oxyzo.> he wants green team
10:39 < bridge> <oxyzo.> obviously
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> we should stop using magic numbesr everywhere for team colors
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> lmao
10:39 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> then they can actually be changed to green if you wanted to
10:40 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> for some reason the nameplates arent respecting no pixel alignemnet text flag which is why i was trying to find where they could be reset
10:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> no longer respecting*
10:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> hate cmake recompiling everything when the edit times change
10:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> even tho the files are the exact same
10:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351128314630377532/image.png?ex=67d93fcc&is=67d7ee4c&hm=24e1f49c7d271a60dee7f6edee0082f058e26c026c7750abefe183ade1b67b5a&
10:41 < bridge> <blazulite> hey Developers®️ from the DDraceNetwork©️ Community™️ (Official™️)
10:41 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> 👋
10:41 < bridge> <blazulite> okay jokes aside I have a little question
10:42 < bridge> <blazulite> How do coloring works on the game?
10:42 < bridge> <blazulite> like
10:42 < bridge> <blazulite> for example on the skins
10:42 < bridge> <blazulite> on the tilesets, etc
10:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://nohello.net/en/ !!!
10:42 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> hey guys
10:42 < bridge> <DDNet> Hellou :3
10:42 < bridge> <blazulite> it was for the funsies,,
10:42 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> each pixel is multiplied by the color, on the skins its magic
10:43 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> each pixel is multiplied by the color, on the skins its magic but mostly just multiply the pixel by the color
10:43 < bridge> <blazulite> I see
10:43 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> afaik (leareath2 typing)
10:44 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> thats why you cant get very vibrant colors on skins
10:44 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> nor black
10:44 < bridge> <blazulite> makes senae
10:44 < bridge> <blazulite> makes sense
10:44 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> thats why you cant get very vibrant colors on skins (cuz multiplied = less)
10:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but the skins are also grey scaled
10:44 < bridge> <blazulite> thanks!
10:44 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> nor black (magic sauce)
10:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> and the body is randomly adjusted too
10:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> with random i mean, i dont understand anything
10:44 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> oh yeah i forgot about that lmao
10:45 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i only remebered the magic find some sort of avg of the pixels
10:45 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> to adjust
10:45 < bridge> <learath2> Mh, this one is rough. The issue is that the receiver for Lock and Unlock are pointers for `sync.Mutex`. Does this really need to be generic? If so there is a way to constrain a generic on properties of *T instead of T
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> It is a little ugly
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> ```golang
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> type LockerPtr[L any] interface {
10:48 < bridge> <learath2>     *L
10:48 < bridge> <learath2>     sync.Locker
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> }
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> 
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> type Map[S LockerPtr, K comparable, V any].....
10:48 < bridge> <learath2> ```
10:49 < bridge> <learath2> But I think that should work
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```cpp
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> // Check if the nameplate is actually on screen
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> vec2 NamePlateSize = m_pNamePlates[pPlayerInfo->m_ClientId].Size(*GameClient(), &Data);
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ScreenX0 -= NamePlateSize.x / 2.0f;
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> // ScreenX1 += NamePlateSize.x / 2.0f;
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ScreenY0 -= 0;
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ScreenY1 += NamePlateSize.y;
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if(!(in_range(Position.x, ScreenX0, ScreenX1) && in_range(Position.y, ScreenY0, ScreenY1)))
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)>     return;
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> ```
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> if i comment this out, it starts respecting the flag again
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i have no clue why
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> oh wiat the textcontainer holds the flags
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> not some random static
11:00 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> adoi
11:15 < bridge> <vappy19> Ujumm
11:15 < bridge> <vappy19> Bad boi
11:15 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> no u
11:16 < bridge> <vappy19> 🐣
11:16 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> :)
11:24 < bridge> <teero777> This is not the case xd
11:24 < bridge> <teero777> The thing is that that ddnet uses hsl for skin coloring but the the ranges are 0..1 0..1 0.5..1
11:25 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> thats part of the magic source
11:32 < bridge> <milkeeycat> what does `*L` mean?
11:35 < bridge> <learath2> Eeeeh, it defines an interface that represents all types that are a pointer to some type
11:35 < bridge> <learath2> The sync.Locker then further constrains the interface to types that are pointers and satisfy sync.Locker
11:36 < bridge> <milkeeycat> oooookey . _.
11:37 < bridge> <learath2> Ah, but you want to use the L, I forgot that, sorry just woke up. Then you need to define the interface inline making it even uglier
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> ```golang
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> type Map[L any, K comparable, V any, LP interface {
11:42 < bridge> <learath2>   *L
11:42 < bridge> <learath2>   sync.Locker
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> }] struct {
11:42 < bridge> <learath2>   lock L
11:42 < bridge> <learath2>   data map[K]V
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> }
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> ```
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> 
11:42 < bridge> <learath2> Something like this
11:48 < bridge> <learath2> it is quite nasty
11:48 < bridge> <learath2> adds an extra type parameter that you have to add in
11:49 < bridge> <learath2> you should ask in the go discord, they are friendly @milkeeycat
12:05 < bridge> <meloƞ> I asked what go-routines are and they called me stupid for not knowing. 11/10 would ask again
12:15 < bridge> <teero777> Should've googles
12:22 < bridge> <learath2> It is derived from C afterall, the toxicity is expected
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> I did but they confused me a bit
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> Go-routines are concurrently running tasks, but not parallel to each other
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> So go routines aren't threads but they work similarly while also not and...
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> They are cheap to create and use.. and yeah
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> That's all I know about go-routines
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> Oh and that creating one is cool
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> callFunc()
12:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> go callFunc() !!!!
12:32 < bridge> <learath2> Goroutines are simple greenthreads. Same thing tokio does, same thing something like `folly::fibers` does.
12:32 < bridge> <learath2> 
12:32 < bridge> <learath2> They can get scheduled however, maybe on a different thread, maybe not
12:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i broke heinreich ai
12:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351157512052674560/image.png?ex=67d95afe&is=67d8097e&hm=4e6f66133105e6ee8ce2c05857012f6bc80f8c97783afc161e721bac7b9705a4&
12:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i prompt injected heinreich ai
12:37 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351157512052674560/image.png?ex=67d95afe&is=67d8097e&hm=4e6f66133105e6ee8ce2c05857012f6bc80f8c97783afc161e721bac7b9705a4&
13:36 < bridge> <filoqcus> @blaiszephyr How to disable rcon green color in TAB
13:37 < furo> @filoqcus https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9692
13:38 < bridge> <meloƞ> rcon_login name password; hide_auth_status 1;
13:38 < bridge> <meloƞ> It will show you the green color, it won't show it to others tho
13:38 < bridge> <meloƞ> You can also still see other people authed when you're authed
13:39 < bridge> <filoqcus> Tysm @blaiszephyr and furo
13:39 < bridge> <filoqcus> :brownbear:
14:00 < bridge> <murpi> `rcon hide_auth_status 1` if it's a bind
14:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> @milkeeycat compiler dev blog post of the day https://blog.polybdenum.com/2025/02/14/designing-type-inference-for-high-quality-type-errors.html
14:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> i made this error
14:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351179650289635400/image.png?ex=67d96f9c&is=67d81e1c&hm=e396d0000fc3f72b2a5d1dcb6d1bb66d62706de1db6863776db0440628c46a23&
14:06 < bridge> <milkeeycat> imagine having pretty compilation errors
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> making languages always reminds me of this
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> > 
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> > 
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> >     The programmer, like the poet, works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff. He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination. Few media of creation are so flexible, so easy to polish and rework, so readily capable of realizing grand conceptual structures.... Yet the program construct, unlike the poet's words, is real in the sense that it moves and works, producing visible outputs separate from the co
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> > 
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> >     —Fred Brooks, The Mythical Man-Month
14:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibe_coding
14:47 < bridge> <aegisub> 🗣️ 🔥
14:52 < bridge> <milkeeycat> more like skill issue coding
15:53 < bridge> <Ewan> :nouis:
15:54 < bridge> <kebscs> hate it when i open twitter and its all ai generated slop games
15:55 < bridge> <kebscs> ive played better browser games on flash 20 years ago idk why some bad airplane simulator is so hot rn
16:05 < bridge> <TsPiggy> literally me
16:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> there is a difference between using ai to generate most of your code, but you peice it together and make it run and make ai generate your code, and fix it, and make it run, slowly and painfully
16:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i do like the name vibe coding, its like a euthanism for the bad that is coding whilst dependent on ai
16:10 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> there is a hard limit on doing the second in terms of size and complexity and its not very high
16:10 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> euphemism is the word you're looking for
16:10 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> euthanasia is very different
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> did i say euthanism
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> lmao
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> thats a typo i swear
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> there is a difference between using ai to generate most of your code, but you peice it together and make it run and make ai generate your code, and fix it, and make it run, slowly and painfully
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i do like the name vibe coding, its like a ~~euthanism~~ euphenism for the bad that is coding whilst dependent on ai
16:11 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> spelling is hard
16:19 < bridge> <aegisub> some ai shills could use some euthanasia though
16:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> vibe coding is fine, youre just harming yourself or being lazy (dpeending how deep in it you are)
16:19 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> using ai to make slop
16:20 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i would treat them the same as scammers
16:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> i would be very happy to tel them to stop and have them stop, but unfortunatley i am not dissalusioned enough to think that would work
16:21 < bridge> <Solly (bun bun)> and i would rather stick them in a concrete box
16:23 < bridge> <.c.f.m.> i know an ai slop game when i see one
16:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> i never used ai to code
16:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> but i saw this term on twitter
16:35 < bridge> <learath2> There is one singular exception I make to using ai in coding and that's to do heavy lifting like going from a shitty unorganized doc about a rest api object to a typed struct
16:46 < bridge> <louis> it's good for generating test data
16:46 < bridge> <louis> and to find deprecated/random documentation for obscure things
16:47 < bridge> <aegisub> or to hallucinate it :blueless:
16:47 < bridge> <louis> although usually stack overflow is slightly better for #2
16:48 < bridge> <louis> yeah, anyone too dependent on it will have rough tones
16:48 < bridge> <louis> yeah, anyone too dependent on it will have rough times
16:48 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> The best documentation for obscure behavior is source code
16:48 < bridge> <aegisub> Hyrum's law 👍
16:48 < bridge> <louis> id rather not read the millions of whatever that makes up some web browser source code 😁
16:49 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> Web was a mistake...
17:00 < bridge> <Nouaa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1351223563402874920/Z.png?ex=67d99882&is=67d84702&hm=7dd793515662521fe433491ccba7abe921ff701aadc4d4aa0aa18e89d6bf0471&
17:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> so real
17:17 < bridge> <Assa> Who is in charge of the ddnet bot? It needs an update, it's behind master
17:20 < bridge> <meloƞ> discord bot is murpi's domain, just wait for him to react on the ping made in the mapping channel
17:21 < bridge> <Assa> also @patiga the deprecated tile check is also ready for the bot
19:09 < bridge> <learath2> "be liberal in what you accept from others" was a mistake
19:09 < bridge> <learath2> Now we have to have parsers behave properly for thousands upon thousands of deviations from the html/css/js spec
19:10 < bridge> <learath2> Now we have to have parsers/lexers/renderers behave properly for thousands upon thousands of deviations from the html/css/js spec
19:10 < bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> Hell yes. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
19:12 < bridge> <learath2> I do sometimes wonder what a browser coded from scratch without any regard for old horseshit would look like, would it devolve into millions of loc aswell?
19:18 < bridge> <milkeeycat> sounds like a fun side project :santatrollet:
19:22 < bridge> <chillerdragon> What is old horse shit and what isn’t
19:42 < bridge> <learath2> anything that deviates from the html spec, the xml spec, the js spec should immediately halt all attempts at rendering and just display "website broken, contact site administrator"
19:43 < bridge> <learath2> no inserting missing tags trying to fix the website, no pushing promises to completion even if not properly driven to completion
19:43 < bridge> <learath2> no emulation of old table behaviours
19:57 < bridge> <aegisub> SO TRUE
21:35 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> ```cpp
21:35 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> void CGameContext::ConDumpLog(IConsole::IResult *pResult, void *pUserData)
21:35 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> {
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>     CGameContext *pSelf = (CGameContext *)pUserData;
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>     int LimitSecs = MAX_LOG_SECONDS;
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>     if(pResult->NumArguments() > 0)
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>         LimitSecs = pResult->GetInteger(0);
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> 
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>     if(LimitSecs < 0)
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy>         return;
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> 
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> ```
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> 
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> why here it checks for minimum value but not for max(in that case MAX_LOG\_SECONDS)? Is it intentional? I've noticed that when I use this command I have a chance to timeout from server
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> and LimitSecs was being set to 10k
21:36 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> :3
21:43 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> Actually I'm still having timeout issues when I use this command even without using this argument
22:04 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> maybe related with https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3691
22:04 < bridge> <Suado Cowboy> but I'm not sure what's causing this problem