02:17 < bridge> Can someone explain why this fails ASan? 02:17 < bridge> 02:17 < bridge> 02:17 < bridge> 02:22 < bridge> this makes it a lot harder to do work on antiping smoothing 02:41 < bridge> https://github.com/sjrc6/TaterClient-ddnet/blob/why_is_copyworld/src%2Fgame%2Fclient%2Fprediction%2Fgameworld.cpp#L588 02:42 < bridge> Copy isn't actually copying :kek: 02:42 < bridge> that doesn't return early idk what you mean 02:43 < bridge> it does copy 02:53 < bridge> the issue seems to be that ``CGameWorld::RemoveEntity`` does not check for IsValidCopy before doing ``pEnt->m_pParent->m_pChild = nullptr;`` 02:56 < bridge> I consider copy should be somewhat like clone and doesn't interfere the clone and original object 02:56 < bridge> Anyway you found the cause 02:57 < bridge> yeah I made a new CopyWorldClean function to sidestep this 02:58 < bridge> Btw I tried to teach others who want to use your client 02:59 < bridge> But failed because they don't know where is the download folder 02:59 < bridge> Btw I tried to teach others who want to use your client this morning (UTC+8) 03:00 < bridge> :kek: 03:00 < bridge> how did they install steam 03:01 < bridge> :kek: through their ex I'd guess 05:43 < ws-client> @pioooooo oh hello fellow utc+8 enjoyer 05:50 < bridge> ChillerDragon Hi Chiller, though I am about to sleep :zzzz: 06:16 < bridge> Wtf 06:32 < bridge> it is quite common now that you have to teach an adult to extract zip :justatest: 06:33 < bridge> i've seen interns graduated from CS who don't know how to operate explorer let alone terminals 06:40 < bridge> I've never met one of those people somehow 06:41 < bridge> if someone don't play PC game there is a solid chance that they've never used a computer i think. 06:41 < bridge> if someone doesn't play PC game there is a solid chance that they've never used a computer i think. 07:27 < bridge> Really? A friend of mine who I've been working with for 4 years now didn't know how to list a file tree under Linux, he's been a software engineer at my firm for ~6 years. 07:27 < bridge> But to be fair, he develops in visual studio, has never used Linux (windows exclusively) and he had his entire dev setup by someone else. 07:27 < bridge> 07:27 < bridge> I might ask him later if he knows how to add things to PATH :greenthing: 07:35 < bridge> > didn't know how to list a file tree under Linux 07:35 < bridge> 07:35 < bridge> well i think that should be expected really... 07:38 < bridge> tree isn’t even installed by default on many distros 07:38 < bridge> not knowing how to use an OS you never use and not knowing how to use the OS you use every day are completely different things. 07:41 < bridge> the important part is also not even having anything memorized, if someone tells you "find the file in your download folder" and you can't do it even with google then you're pretty clueless. 07:44 < bridge> i still remember the days where people freaks out because "My Computer" is no longer visible on the desktop. 07:55 < bridge> that was annoying to get used to 08:20 < bridge> I don't remember what My Computer did 08:41 < bridge> its just a desktop shortcut of file explorer i think 08:41 < bridge> well im pretty sure it is that actually:justatest: 08:43 < bridge> before they put everything into a single file explorer there was My Computer and Network Neighborhood iirc. so just two file explorers one for local one for remote 08:54 < bridge> I had a friend defend this situation to me, trying to convince me that someone who doesn’t know what a terminal is can be a good hire 08:56 < bridge> i could see people arguing that it don't really matter but idk about it being a GOOD hire 08:56 < bridge> I can use chatgpt myself. I don’t need no fresh graduate 08:57 < bridge> it like my dad keep saying that he's a lot better than me even though he doesn't finish highschool and told me i should only hire people without a degree. 08:58 < bridge> it like my dad keep saying that he's a lot better than me even though he didnt finish highschool and told me i should only hire people without a degree. 08:58 < bridge> We were talking about software developers btw. Ofc it won’t matter if my accountant doesn’t know what a terminal is 08:59 < bridge> lol 08:59 < bridge> well ofc 08:59 < bridge> again, i can see dropout being good at something but saying having a degree is worse is wacky 08:59 < bridge> i don't like midlife crisis dad :greenthing: 09:00 < bridge> i want my normal dad back 09:04 < bridge> i've noticed a pattern recently, as soon as my dad sees me coding he will stare at my screen pretend to know what im doing and when i ask does he need anything he'll just say "doesn't look too complicated, i can do this too if i try, i just don't feel like it" 09:05 < bridge> it's like talking to teenage boy with too much self-esteem :justatest: 09:06 < bridge> > doesn't look too complicated, i can do this too if i try 09:06 < bridge> basically me about any new project idea xd 09:06 < bridge> xd 09:07 < bridge> somebody help, why command dbg_dummies dont work??? 09:09 < bridge> it only works if you build the server yourself with debug mode, and the sever dummies won't do anything, they are for debugging. 09:09 < bridge> there are probably hundreds of web developers making 6 figures who never use a terminal at their job even once. So I don't think he is really wrong. 09:10 < bridge> and how do I enable debugging mode on my server? 09:10 < bridge> not even `npm run dev` ¿ 09:10 < bridge> :kekw: 09:10 < bridge> alright true 09:10 < bridge> idk how you avoid it xd 09:12 < bridge> well you can if you only develop static html or js only frontend with plain js and you test it with double clicking the html and use a cors bypass extension 09:12 < bridge> or you have a hotkey that launches your project 09:12 < bridge> that someone else setup for you 09:13 < bridge> even then vscode just opens up a terminal when you do that i think? so at least they've SEEN one 09:13 < bridge> or they are just using devin 09:13 < bridge> :greenthing: 09:13 < bridge> devin is here to save web dev 09:13 < bridge> I guess to be a good web developer you also must know about the browser javascript console 09:14 < bridge> mod4+shift+lctrl+kp_5 to launch ddnet in vsc :greenthing: 09:14 < bridge> why so many buttons :justatest: 09:14 < bridge> every function key is taken? 09:15 < bridge> melon be using 25% keyboard 09:15 < bridge> Every keybind that launches something is bound to at least 2 modifier keys, I have fat fingers 09:15 < bridge> how fat your finger is that you could just hit a f5 that far up above 09:15 < bridge> I died mid run 3 days ago because I accidentally launched Firefox while playing, Firefox is Ctrl+shift+alt+f 09:16 < bridge> can someone explain the appeal of using a low% keyboard as a developer. I thought the whole point of the small keyboards was to get extra desk space for your mouse to be closer to your left hand. 09:16 < bridge> save hand movement actually 09:16 < bridge> Are you a left hand mouse user??? 09:16 < bridge> no 09:16 < bridge> cuts down a lot of reaching and finger extensions 09:16 < bridge> but the buttons aren't more dense? 09:17 < bridge> ye but i don't need to reach for function rows or numbers 09:17 < bridge> "save hand movement" -> "press 4 keys to launch your project instead of 1" 09:17 < bridge> nice 09:17 < bridge> hand movment, not finger strength 09:17 < bridge> These minimalistic keyboards are annoying to me personally, it's rare but I do need a keypad and f1-f12 keys, and I don't want to press something like fn+1 to actually press f1 09:17 < bridge> I use a 100% keyboard 09:18 < bridge> like saves your arms and wrist 09:18 < bridge> how do I enable debugging mode on my server? 09:18 < bridge> Get a split keyboard 💥 09:19 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319217551959654430/safetype_safetype_vertical_keyboard_p1_800x566.jpg?ex=67652896&is=6763d716&hm=763628c7ffa539fbb3800870660d2730012fb44828ae88e6aefc055074030aa1& 09:19 < bridge> the only reason why i tolerate modifiers is that i have split space bar 09:19 < bridge> a lot of stuff is right space modified 09:19 < bridge> :cat_sad: ew 09:20 < bridge> maximum ergonomic 09:20 < bridge> tie fighter build 09:20 < bridge> i do need numpad and stuff occastionally to be fair. but i have those on my laptop keepboard 09:21 < bridge> function row is usually not useful for me 09:21 < bridge> but i like my arrow keys 09:21 < bridge> my arrow is just right space + hjkl 09:22 < bridge> still one hand, home row and thumb, imo pretty easy to get used to 09:22 < bridge> maybe the small keyboard appeals to the minimalist OS user, "I don't press those buttons so I should remove them" 09:22 < bridge> ive historically had a lot of issues when i try to use arrow keys + some other key on top of it 09:22 < bridge> heck i don't even have capslock, my capslock is backspace 09:22 < bridge> the modifier will not recognize i only want to modify the arrow keys 09:23 < bridge> you mean the 6 key block + numpad? 09:23 < bridge> idk 09:23 < bridge> any keys 09:24 < bridge> oh i forgot to order a anykey keycap 09:24 < bridge> i understand 60% for developers but nowhere under that 09:24 < bridge> thanks for the reminder 09:25 < bridge> i use 60% now just so i can play deadlock 09:25 < bridge> but i did use 40% most of the time in college 09:26 < bridge> :justatest: 09:28 < bridge> i can still find my 40% layout even tho i don't have that keyboard anymore 09:28 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319219847883915284/Screenshot_20241219_162806.jpg?ex=67652ab9&is=6763d939&hm=ca00c813abbbf2a73e566da9769d8a989cb05c7c366e68eeb6822e0c3fa60d94& 09:30 < bridge> :justatest: 09:30 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319220366375129110/image.png?ex=67652b35&is=6763d9b5&hm=2ab72638e9c2468855acf1a667fc0e0ab0407dd8da4d33f262aaec87118bbde5& 09:31 < bridge> i made that warning, it's my tool. it's fine I tested it 09:31 < bridge> o lol 09:31 < bridge> they should add more memory if the keyboard is missing so many keys 09:31 < bridge> it's probably not a memory thing 09:32 < bridge> just terrible firmware in general 09:32 < bridge> the firmware is so bad they stopped updating the version that supports custom layout lol 10:11 < bridge> looks unusable with per hand :justatest: 10:20 < bridge> :justatest: 10:20 < bridge> hands aren't created equally anyway 10:22 < bridge> <.puch> Chillerdragon: I compiled your ddnet-insta on my server. What I need to put for CTF+ gametype? 10:22 < bridge> <.puch> i don't find 10:34 < bridge> <0xdeen> @zerolacqua Thanks a lot! ^ 10:54 < ws-client> @.puch ``sv_gametype ctf`` 11:38 < bridge> Funny thing, I actually use capslock because SCREAMING ON THE INTERNET is annoying without it 11:40 < bridge> Though I would be perfectly happy to press Fn+Shift for that functionality 11:42 < bridge> <.puch> Chillerdragon: I think i already tried it but i got a ddrace server in the end 11:42 < bridge> <.puch> Maybe im using an old branch 12:03 < bridge> get stronger pinky 12:04 < bridge> No but the correct way to scream is to always use the opposite shift key to the key you're pressing 12:04 < bridge> too bad chinese doesn't have uppercase 12:04 < bridge> Unless you're one of those filthy people who doesn't know how to use right shift 12:06 < bridge> You guys should invent lowercase Chinese 12:06 < bridge> its called simplified chinese 12:06 < bridge> And this is slow and annoying 12:08 < bridge> I've never used right shift in my life 😬 12:10 < bridge> <_qey> Hey, I received a complaint from my hosting provider about port scanning activities originating from my DDNet server. The complaint mentions multiple UDP connections on port 8307 targeting external IPs, all of them are Hetzner's subnets. At the time of the incident, logs show users on the server were complaining about lags and high ping. Could this behavior be related to the server configuration or a known issue with DDNet? 12:10 < bridge> <_qey> I mean, it for sure looks like a DDoS-attack, but how did the perpetrator manage to make my server echo another IP, since none of the IPs were related to users connected at the time. 12:10 < bridge> <_qey> The outgoing traffic was exceeding 8 Mbps. For an hour. 12:11 < bridge> <_qey> While the incoming traffic was at about 1 Mbps. 12:19 < bridge> <_qey> I hope DDNet master-server or any other infrastructure don’t use Hetzner subnets, as of now I’m disallowing any traffic on DDNet-Server ports on Hetzner’s subnets. 12:34 < bridge> <0xdeen> Seems like someone is using spoofed IPs to make you reflect an attack against our official DDNet servers (and other servers at Hetzner probably) 12:35 < bridge> <0xdeen> See these iptable rules to prevent your server from responding to all incoming requests: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/ddnet-setup.sh#L45-L55 12:36 < bridge> <_qey> Already on it, implementing DNSBL and will look into iptables rules. Any of your servers use Hetzner? 12:37 < bridge> someone did the same two months ago too, happened to me too 12:39 < bridge> <0xdeen> Yes, many: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/blob/master/www/_includes/funding.html 12:45 < bridge> <_qey> I see. Is enabling DNSBL in server config sufficient or do I need to further configure the VPS? I cannot run the script since VPS is hosting many other projects, I will selectively implement some parts of the script. As for DNSBL, I cannot tell if any additional configuration is needed besides sv_dnsbl* cmds. 13:04 < bridge> is that what they claim, or is it in your network stats? 13:04 < bridge> <_qey> Network monitoring logs. 13:05 < bridge> ok, bcs i also had that once (for tcp traffic) and disabled all tcp traffic and they still claimed that my server created so much traffic. so i wrote the support to monitor my server and since then they never banned me again xd 13:05 < bridge> tho it's not hetzner 13:07 < bridge> <_qey> My thing was real, only UDP, only DDNet-Server port. Backed up by logs. 13:08 < bridge> what you should defs do is ignore any inc packets from client port <= 1024 13:08 < bridge> that already solves most port scanning reports 13:10 < bridge> <_qey> It says that my server was port-scanning Hetzner’s servers. I have UFW, so only needed ports are allowed. This is a DDNet-Server-level issue. 13:11 < bridge> <_qey> It says that my server was port-scanning Hetzner’s servers. I have UFW enabled, so only needed ports are allowed. This is a DDNet-Server-level issue. 13:11 < bridge> this is not a ddnet-server issue, that is simply how the internet works 😄 13:11 < bridge> you can just ignore jupstar, they are not correcting you, they just talk like that. 13:12 < bridge> it's just their thing 13:12 < bridge> ?XD 13:12 < bridge> <_qey> Thanks for the heads up. I was gonna get myself into a heated discussion. 13:13 < bridge> you guys are talking about different things 13:13 < bridge> it's just how it goes sometime 13:13 < bridge> his server did port scanning bcs it responded to spoofed ip packets 13:13 < bridge> how are we talking about different things 13:14 < bridge> chillerdragon: do you want the video vertical or horizontal xdd 13:17 < bridge> Square! 13:17 < bridge> The perfect middleground :greenthing: 13:20 < bridge> I don't think my phone can record in square ;-; 13:20 < bridge> Vertical! 13:20 < bridge> Wait 13:20 < bridge> Which is which 13:20 < bridge> vertical is tall 13:20 < bridge> horizontal is wide 13:20 < bridge> 16:9 land scape not TikTok layout xd 13:21 < bridge> good ok xD 13:23 < bridge> Chiller can you check simplex? I imported my db from my PC idk if it still works 13:23 < bridge> Horizontal then 13:24 < bridge> I simplexed you 15 mins ago 13:24 < bridge> Ah fk 13:24 < bridge> Yea mb 13:57 < bridge> whats up with the bug that makes the cursor and the stuff on the top left transparent 13:57 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319287373376520213/image.png?ex=6765699c&is=6764181c&hm=33d120056e6043bab078bf9a2059863c84dbcbcd5e2843c34be742f3819866fd& 13:57 < bridge> without the bug 13:57 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319287466578153512/image.png?ex=676569b3&is=67641833&hm=f3fb62c6947b23fae23c2272bb753e10410e438db3b765e537ddeb9c2a4fdf11& 13:58 < bridge> it's fixed in master 13:58 < bridge> what version 13:58 < bridge> nightly 13:59 < bridge> strictly speaking it's not a new bug, so i don't think it's fixed in latest ver 14:00 < bridge> which pr? 14:00 < bridge> i'm really curious why that happens 14:00 < bridge> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9347 14:01 < bridge> i mean i can guess but i'm a bit confused on the exact trigger condition 14:01 < bridge> it feels random 14:01 < bridge> it's kinda a race 14:01 < bridge> 14:01 < bridge> between loading and showing the loading screen 14:01 < bridge> ok renderloading oof 14:01 < bridge> it probably to a certain extent is 14:01 < bridge> as much as we can call timing random 14:02 < bridge> ye, it is quite random just how it runs and if there is anything run in between i think? 14:03 < bridge> oh `Box.Draw` doesn't reset? 14:04 < bridge> i guess it makes sense 14:05 < bridge> im just saying that so you turn your attention to me instead of holding the guy from doing anything useful just to argue with you. 14:06 < bridge> it worked didn't it 14:07 < bridge> he'll figure it out even if you are right. and he might never do if you guys just spent an hour arguing and draining energy 14:08 < bridge> ChillerDragon 14:09 < bridge> It's you who are constantly raising the level on TeeSports, with the help of a kind of bot that constantly goes to the place of farm 14:09 < bridge> If yes, then you can give this Bot 14:13 < bridge> i didnt even argue? XD 14:13 < bridge> 14:13 < bridge> i gave him a tip what he could do 14:14 < bridge> and i told him it's not ddnet related.. any service can be abused like that 14:16 < bridge> <0xdeen> having UDP-based serverinfo available is pretty bad though, the reflection can have more data than the request 14:17 < bridge> <0xdeen> There is already `sv_server_info_per_second`, and with the default of 50 we shouldn't be seeing 8 Mbit/s 14:24 < bridge> <_qey> Well, that’s a new one. 300 Mpbs DDoS. Server is down even from VNC in the panel. 14:25 < bridge> <_qey> 100% CPU load even after rebooting the server, which kills DDNet-Servers. Any suggestions? Sorry for being slightly off-topic. 14:25 < bridge> if he replies it will start 14:28 < bridge> and so? 14:28 < bridge> if i or him doesn't want the discussion we can simply say it. 14:28 < bridge> really dunno what you are up to rn 14:28 < bridge> i stopped him from wasting his time 14:28 < bridge> that's it 14:29 < bridge> you are creating a discussion rn too :lol: 14:29 < bridge> and i will stop wasting mine too starting now 14:30 < bridge> against ddos, you basically have no chance. 14:30 < bridge> 14:30 < bridge> normally server hosters provide a ddos protection.. wait until it gets active 14:31 < bridge> <_qey> Not against a 300 Mbps one. 14:31 < bridge> <_qey> I can’t even tell where the traffic is coming from, since I cannot access the server. 14:32 < bridge> ~~nooo, don't respond. i was rooting for you.~~ 14:32 < bridge> <_qey> Even forced restarts don’t work, lol. 14:32 < bridge> <_qey> I’m not arguing with him at the moment. 14:33 < bridge> i'm just kidding. 14:33 < bridge> <_qey> I’m straight up baffled by what’s going on. People are wasting resources to take down my little network, that’s just stupid. 14:33 < bridge> that happens all the time 14:34 < bridge> luckily our server with our 5mbps bandwidth will just kill itself before they can do anything with it. 14:34 < bridge> luckily my server with my 5mbps bandwidth will just kill itself before they can do anything with it. 14:35 < bridge> still a DOS tho, but I solved it by just not caring about it 14:36 < bridge> <_qey> I have a 1 Gbps port, I have no idea why 300 Mbps killed it, maybe a CPU issue then. 14:37 < bridge> like a home connection or? 14:37 < bridge> like from a hoster 14:37 < bridge> <_qey> Hosting provider. 14:37 < bridge> ye, no idea then 14:38 < bridge> <_qey> 11 minutes in, I manager to shut the hecking server down. 14:39 < bridge> maybe it was one physical link shared between multiple instances and a QoS somewhere stopped yours. 14:40 < bridge> i guess lots of things can happen and i shouldn't just guess randomly lol 14:40 < bridge> i mean lots of things can happen and i shouldn't just guess randomly lol 14:40 < bridge> <_qey> 11 minutes in, I managed to shut the hecking server down. 15:04 < ws-client> @woidless yes it is me. Sedonya said it is okay if I use a bot. But sadly he disallows farm bots in general so nobody else can use them. Which means I can not distribute a bot that is disallowed by all Copy Love Box admins I know. 15:07 < ws-client> oh and its also not running on windows. Its written in a propriatary linux only programming language. 15:08 < ws-client> proprietary* one day i learn how to spell it 15:09 < bridge> 5head 15:12 < bridge> Wait what? That's amazing :D 15:13 < bridge> bash 15:13 < bridge> need to write more Windows-incompatible software 15:13 < bridge> what even is linux only? 15:13 < bridge> is alt+scroll a thing on other OSs than windows? 15:13 < bridge> something that uses every obscure Linux only syscall and has no implementations for other operating systems :) 15:13 < bridge> like just a faster scroll 15:14 < ws-client> i forgot what exactly but since i never intended on publishing it i went full "it works on my machine" mode with some linux only C headers 15:14 < bridge> You could probably *make* it a thing 15:14 < bridge> oh wait i'm dumb it's a vsc thing, not a windows thing oof 15:14 < bridge> nvm then 15:14 < bridge> well. I expected it to be a linux only language 15:14 < bridge> Apparently Alt+scroll in Firefox is back and forwards 15:14 < bridge> Apparently Alt+scroll in Firefox is back and forwards in history 15:15 < bridge> not an app only working on linux 15:15 < bridge> 😢 disappointed 15:15 < bridge> wtf 15:15 < bridge> i don't like that 15:15 < bridge> me neither! 15:15 < bridge> luckily never hit that by accident 15:18 < bridge> UX 101 -- zen brwoser 15:18 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319307800136126484/2024-12-19_22-17-29.mp4?ex=67657ca3&is=67642b23&hm=2e9596b2ffd76a0388b6b40a7e097321427881ff2f28ea0b712ca3e63695dc7f& 15:18 < bridge> UX 101 -- zen browser 15:18 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319307800136126484/2024-12-19_22-17-29.mp4?ex=67657ca3&is=67642b23&hm=2e9596b2ffd76a0388b6b40a7e097321427881ff2f28ea0b712ca3e63695dc7f& 15:35 < bridge> cygwin users when 15:35 < bridge> it looks cool but im not allowed to use it for work because they got hacked 15:36 < bridge> i mean not really 15:36 < bridge> someone found a fairly obvious CVE and they handled it well but it was all because of extra dumb shit 15:36 < bridge> linux version when 🥱 15:37 < bridge> they did handle it pretty well tho 15:38 < bridge> https://kibty.town/blog/arc/ 15:38 < bridge> i say fairly obvious but they all are after you discover them right lol 15:38 < bridge> i have the useless phone app tho 15:39 < bridge> which is just browser for phone 15:39 < bridge> I just use normal mobile firefox 15:39 < bridge> boring but good 15:39 < bridge> at least it's not preinstalled chrome you know 15:40 < bridge> yeah 15:40 < bridge> they had a bug where opening the app if you left off in private browsing would crash semi consistently 15:41 < bridge> took them like over a year to fix iirc 15:41 < bridge> but otherwise i love mobile firefox and have used it for as long as apple has allowed non-safari default browsers 15:41 < bridge> and before on my s10e. that was a nice phone 16:01 < bridge> i'm saying it is terrible cuz i misclicked it the first time cuz the 80% dodged my click 16:17 < bridge> different UX doesn’t mean bad 16:17 < bridge> but i do hear they changed the top left corner a lot 16:17 < bridge> but ya i am not a big fan of extra options like that moving around 16:18 < bridge> it should just come out to the left of the existing ones, and the existing ones should have fixed positions 16:18 < bridge> i'm saying the button moves when you hover it is bad 16:18 < bridge> :justatest: 16:18 < bridge> i'm pretty sure that is bad like objectively 16:19 < bridge> we are agreeing 16:19 < bridge> ye 16:20 < bridge> i'm more talking about i don't really care about the rest of the UX like top bar designs and stuff 16:20 < bridge> just the button moving lol 17:18 < bridge> Hey can someone check out the 32bit exe from the newest release? I got told it is buggy 17:18 < bridge> All the UI elements wiggling around 17:20 < bridge> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 17:20 < bridge> it also happens in wine 17:21 < bridge> seems like the time is completely wrong 17:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319338979786625134/2024-12-19_17-13-19.mp4?ex=676599ac&is=6764482c&hm=fba71c3e701987bc524e245cfad73ac3dbb0d98c5df8ea852c5cb6c9b94128c6& 17:22 < bridge> looks like holding tab with very short key repeat delay or something 17:23 < bridge> but the snow is also super fast 17:23 < bridge> except pressing Tab doesn't even change the tabs... so what is even happening here? 17:23 < bridge> must be some time thing 17:27 < bridge> @0xdeen did you upgrade your system or smth? 17:27 < bridge> 17:27 < bridge> or why do we encounter such weird bugs on legacy platforms 17:30 < bridge> it’s fine 17:36 < bridge> <0xdeen> That's hilarious. Is that win32? 17:36 < bridge> <0xdeen> I guess some code changed 17:36 < bridge> <0xdeen> but arch linux always gets updates, so who knows 17:38 < bridge> ok, 32 bit is pretty broken 17:39 < bridge> lgtm idk 17:39 < bridge> but must have broken lately 17:39 < bridge> but why is the time in the maplayers broken 17:39 < bridge> @robyt3 did you change smth about how the local time is processed there? 17:40 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks limited edition feature 17:40 < bridge> why the UI elements jump around is another weird thing, since they only react to mouse 17:40 < bridge> 18.7 unaffected, so must be a recent change 17:40 < bridge> i didn't have 32-bit & win7 breaks on my 2024 bingo card for certain 17:41 < bridge> does that happen everywhere there are UIs or just the main menu 17:42 < bridge> i can see something with ui rects working from uninitialized or otherwise invalid values 17:42 < bridge> yeah certainly possible, but the map animations must be time related 17:42 < bridge> floating point different on 32 bit, msvc compiler flags, etc 17:42 < bridge> i also insta timeout 17:42 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319344224117723226/image.png?ex=67659e8f&is=67644d0f&hm=380e005b3c33ba20f3d34dbc2ebd801eedc16383ff7afd09353a2009650b188d& 17:42 < bridge> when joining a server 17:43 < bridge> something is very wrong 17:45 < bridge> WHAT IS THIS? 17:45 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1319344857512284290/image.png?ex=67659f26&is=67644da6&hm=8d4ea72de7aff49aecebd3fb82066bf97d6aaab84c6bea5f3f72c9f90bd99e7d& 17:45 < bridge> Tabbing in and out of 32 bit 18.8 also makes it freeze with 0% CPU usage for me 17:45 < bridge> Ah thought it's a wayland bug xD 17:45 < bridge> but yeah, i have it in wine too 17:46 < bridge> broadcast? what server? if anything but ddnet, then you have your answer 17:46 < bridge> can you share the ip 17:46 < bridge> in this channel 17:46 < bridge> I mean, why is he insulting my country? 17:47 < bridge> this is presumably an independent server host 17:47 < bridge> i leave... 17:47 < bridge> they can do whatever they want 17:47 < bridge> they are not ddnet 17:47 < bridge> i mean the server ip 17:47 < bridge> you dont know? 17:47 < bridge> or server name 17:47 < bridge> sorry i dont know because i dont have a server history list 17:47 < bridge> oh k 17:48 < bridge> with exceptions but i don’t think strong language constitutes a ban from the masters 17:48 < bridge> I think this is simply your ingame name? 17:48 < bridge> i joined a block server with the map in your screenshot 17:48 < bridge> and it said "WELCOME ' 17:49 < bridge> and it said "WELCOME '' 17:49 < bridge> ? 17:49 < bridge> are you trolling? 17:49 < bridge> you have to tell me if you’re trolling 17:49 < bridge> i think heis 17:49 < bridge> it’s entrapment otherwise 17:49 < bridge> i think he is 17:49 < bridge> no I'm sure htrudfhdfhuytryfghnj is super serious about everything 17:50 < bridge> some ppl do come in here with crazy ass names looking for help 17:59 < bridge> Hello, what is the minimum version of Android to support the game, and will it be supported on Android in the future? 18:00 < bridge> https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-18.8.1.apk 18:00 < bridge> just try it out 18:02 < bridge> I dont have old android 18:02 < bridge> I have only android 14 and android 8 18:02 < bridge> well 8 is defs something i'd consider old 18:03 < bridge> Ok 18:04 < bridge> but it should still work on that version, just to be clear xd 18:05 < bridge> Android 7.0 and newer should be supported 18:05 < bridge> just curious, are you looking into the 32 bit thing? it’s a fascinating bug 18:05 < bridge> or collection of bugd 18:05 < bridge> or collection of bugs 18:06 < bridge> yeah, I can't reproduce it when compiling with MSVC 32 bit both in debug and release build 18:06 < bridge> oh great 18:06 < bridge> are deen’s build scripts public 18:07 < bridge> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/a17337fde68e0de9b16da15df5d3ccd5a63d9307/release/build.sh 18:08 < bridge> the releases use mingw?? news to me 18:09 < bridge> if you have msys2 and can’t repro with this cmake/toolchains/mingw$PLATFORM.toolchain then i’d be worried 18:10 < bridge> Might also be related to different configuration flags like Discord/Steam/Autoupdater integration 18:12 < bridge> i see 18:12 < bridge> i have a question that might seem weird 18:12 < bridge> how tf do you bring yourself to do so much for ddnet 18:13 < bridge> yes robyte tell us 18:13 < bridge> idk historically your affiliation with the game or what it means to you but putting in this much work for anything as a volunteer is admirable 18:13 < bridge> robyte time 18:13 < bridge> I was just about to eat :pepeW: 18:13 < bridge> lmfao 18:13 < bridge> yeah what time is it anyway 18:13 < bridge> dinnertime ig 18:14 < bridge> ok ok, you eat, bon apetit 18:14 < bridge> 18:14 < bridge> and when you back you have your biography ready 😄 18:14 < bridge> well idk 18:14 < bridge> this guy just works for seemingly nothing other than to have it accomplished 18:15 < bridge> maybe there is more to it 18:15 < bridge> so basically like all hobbies xd 18:17 < bridge> maybe i am just particularly used to seeing laziness all around but that’s kind of discrediting his contributions 18:17 < bridge> he does a lot 18:18 < bridge> i think there is only lack of motivation, not laziness 18:18 < bridge> 18:18 < bridge> like what are things you consider yourself lazy for? 18:19 < bridge> discord chatting on the clock :justatest: 18:19 < bridge> maybe robyte is just super disciplined 18:20 < bridge> manages time well 18:20 < bridge> discord like all social media can easily make addicted. 18:20 < bridge>