00:12 < bridge> i thought maybe to indicate that a player is invincible we could not render the feet and instead render a ufo so that it looks as if the tee is flying in a ufo 00:19 < bridge> @heinrich5991 can we bump the masterserver payload size? 16k doesn't seem to be enough for 128p 01:00 < bridge> this won't cause issues for clients? 01:01 < bridge> Clients should(tm) not be reading more than their serverinfo max 01:01 < bridge> Which is already 128 01:05 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290449442134032424/terraria_ufo.png?ex=66fc8032&is=66fb2eb2&hm=5b5e421f8866b25c98ff0555fdfc558a2ddea443089c92e47020fc35ccbd265a& 01:09 < bridge> @chillerdragon, can you send me an example of how you configure the tournament servers? 01:12 < bridge> aka league servers 01:57 < bridge> the final file where everything comes together, port, execs etc 11:50 < bridge> hi developas 11:51 < bridge> rewrite ddnet in rust when 12:05 < bridge> never, because our developers do not play "developers", they do not chase trendy languages and technologies, their main goal is to support and develop new interesting game mechanics, and not to chase refactoring and performance 12:08 < bridge> well, rust in the code base seems to indicate the opposite. 12:13 < bridge> well, rust in the codebase seems to indicate the opposite. 12:17 < bridge> u not a developa and i was joking 12:18 < bridge> its a meme to say rewrite it in rust 12:27 < bridge> guys....... don't you understand irony? :troll: 12:31 < bridge> iron 12:32 < bridge> i dont think they will:playingtee: 12:35 < bridge> ok serious question now for developas, if i submit a new feature that can reduce performance a little bit will i get beaten to death or not? 12:36 < bridge> both 12:40 < bridge> 13:04 < bridge> no 13:16 < bridge> Rewrite ddnet physics in rust 13:16 < bridge> Then your dreams come 13:17 < bridge> real 13:18 < bridge> would be cool if moderators will have the banhammer ingame to strike ppl:trollking: 13:19 < bridge> 13:20 < bridge> great idea 13:21 < bridge> any idea who could make a flying saucer sprite for the game? 13:30 < bridge> me turning it on and chasing people on linear 💥 13:31 < bridge> that's funny 13:31 < bridge> visually punish people 13:32 < bridge> reminds me of the (fictional) middle ages 13:32 < bridge> I used to play an ancient game where a game mode like that was a common event on private servers. In GunZ private servers, 2 admins would take 30 people into the lobby and shoot at them with rocket launchers that kicked the person they hit. The last person remaining would get a reward 13:32 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290637563832565853/image0.gif?ex=66fd2f66&is=66fbdde6&hm=79309395539ec98ca9fb11fab007f1ba2b7fcae5134789f17e521c3b11e0bdc7& 13:33 < bridge> Not exactly the "banhammer" but "kickrocket" is close enough 😄 13:34 < bridge> lol 13:34 < bridge> But we have no cosmetics to give away 13:35 < bridge> basically zCatch with extra steps 13:35 < bridge> ._. 13:35 < bridge> You can't kill the people hunting you though. You just have to run away 13:35 < bridge> the reward: "congrats" 13:35 < bridge> ok 13:36 < bridge> It was usually a colored name or one of the two weapon skins that were reserved as event rewards 13:46 < bridge> reward is permanent ban? 13:46 < bridge> would be even funnier event 14:05 < bridge> im a madman im migrating my domain mail to mailcow 14:21 < bridge> where have you been before? 14:31 < bridge> fastmail 14:31 < bridge> not self hosted 14:31 < bridge> im self hosting again 14:31 < bridge> again 14:31 < bridge> if china cant receive my emails is not my problem 14:36 < bridge> i don't think i don't know how to log stuff 14:36 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290653507858202634/image.png?ex=66fd3e3f&is=66fbecbf&hm=5433ff2a02376e51564fa5136a2058f381933dfff2ca02e14f8de9c93eceffba& 14:36 < bridge> i don't think i know how to log stuff 14:36 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290653507858202634/image.png?ex=66fd3e3f&is=66fbecbf&hm=5433ff2a02376e51564fa5136a2058f381933dfff2ca02e14f8de9c93eceffba& 14:39 < bridge> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KfXl7QdMD8 14:45 < bridge> @ryozuki i'm also self hosting https://tschumacher.net/self-host-email/ 14:46 < bridge> basically just postfix + dovecot + rspamd on a debian vm 14:46 < bridge> ye i got a cheap vps 14:46 < bridge> and mailcow is all that autoconfigured with docker 14:46 < bridge> its dope 14:47 < bridge> i'm not having any deliverabilty issues 14:47 < bridge> it might be a gamble with the ip you get idk 14:48 < bridge> it tells u if ur ip is clean 14:48 < bridge> it told me it is 14:49 < bridge> altho i sent a cleartext mail to gmail and i appeared in spam xd 14:49 < bridge> that's nice 14:49 < bridge> it checks if your ip is on any blacklists i suppose 14:49 < bridge> ye 14:49 < bridge> you can check in gmail if you find the right button why it was put in spam 14:49 < bridge> https://docs.mailcow.email/ 14:50 < bridge> and you can see if dmarc/dkim/spf worked 14:50 < bridge> https://www.mail-tester.com/ is also great for testing - although i suppose mailcow would do everything correct there by default 14:50 < bridge> Deliverability is a huge issue from Hetzner, so I can never self host my mail, atleast not the outbound smtp 14:51 < bridge> hmm i am on hetzner since two years self hosting 14:51 < bridge> I might set it up again one day using aws as my outbound 14:52 < bridge> Though it has been almost a decade since I tried, maybe with all the new dmarc spf dkim stuff it's now easier to be trusted enough not to directly land in spam 14:53 < bridge> i've just checked my ip on https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx (the first google result) and it says i'm not blacklisted 14:53 < bridge> fwiw 14:53 < bridge> I'm on one blacklist and I've owned this ip for a decade now. There is no way I sent the spam, so it's just a subnet thing :/ 15:02 < bridge> i guess u got unlucky 15:03 < bridge> I also tested it a decade ago when most of these security things didn't exist yet 15:03 < bridge> on the second email it got delivered to main box 15:03 < bridge> maybe its cuz i removed it from spam 15:03 < bridge> anyway 15:03 < bridge> i want to use it for my services 15:03 < bridge> mailcow has dkim and all 15:04 < bridge> and arc 15:04 < bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticated_Received_Chain 15:06 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290661088370888775/image.png?ex=66fd454e&is=66fbf3ce&hm=53184434fb589788bf58559b94afbce56c11e9e2fda2b2f45f0f4e4bdbe0f863& 15:06 < bridge> indeed it does everything perfekt 15:45 < bridge> wow, you can send! 15:51 < bridge> xd 16:47 < bridge> oh, time to host a mail server 17:01 < bridge> https://www.clear.rice.edu/comp512/Lectures/Papers/1971-allen-catalog.pdf 17:16 < bridge> rice university - rice your linux like a lro 17:16 < bridge> pro 17:26 < bridge> ------ 17:26 < bridge> > [builder-ddnet 9/9] RUN mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release && make -j$(nproc) DDNet-Server: 17:26 < bridge> 7.639 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile 17:26 < bridge> 7.715 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile - found 17:26 < bridge> 7.722 CMake Error: File /app/cmake/checksummed_extra.txt does not exist. 17:26 < bridge> 7.722 CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:2904 (configure_file): 17:26 < bridge> 7.722 configure_file Problem configuring file 17:26 < bridge> 7.722 17:26 < bridge> 7.722 17:26 < bridge> 7.771 -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! 17:26 < bridge> 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". 17:27 < bridge> 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log". 17:27 < bridge> ------ 17:27 < bridge> 17:27 < bridge> Has anyone ever encountered such an error? 17:27 < bridge> 17:27 < bridge> If I want to build the execution file locally with custom Dockerfile then it works but with github workflows it always fails at the checksum this has never happened to me until I downloaded the latest version. The place in cmakelist has also not been edited or changed for 2 years. 17:27 < bridge> 17:27 < bridge> this is cutout of the Dockerfile (some double like install rustc and the rustup but this shoudl be not the problem) 17:27 < bridge> ``` 17:27 < bridge> FROM debian:12 AS builder-ddnet 17:27 < bridge> 17:27 < bridge> RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y gcc-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ 17:27 < bridge> g++-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ 17:27 < bridge> gcc-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ 17:27 < bridge> g++-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ 17:27 < bridge> wget \ 17:27 < bridge> git \ 17:27 < bridge> ca-certificates \ 17:27 < bridge> build-essential \ 17:27 < bridge> python3 \ 17:38 < bridge> So it worked with a previous version? You could git bisect in the CI to find out what caused this :justatest: 18:07 < bridge> its another project. i just copied the Dockerfile 18:09 < bridge> :gigachad: 18:09 < bridge> :troll: 18:12 < bridge> :ddnet: 18:51 < bridge> @learath2 or @heinrich5991 do u have the capability to manage the dns records or just deen? specifically for wiki.ddnet.org 19:11 < bridge> i was sitting for like an hour thinking what is wrong until i see taht theres no "=". i hate godot 19:11 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290722665140846703/2024-10-01_19.10.12.png?ex=66fd7ea7&is=66fc2d27&hm=8f0d1925ef894f4915daef332c3cfc3cc56a82bea2c13b44c12490e43b696830& 19:26 < bridge> I do 19:40 < bridge> nvm deen answered me in dm already 19:51 < bridge> yay, now wiki mails will come from no-reply@wiki.ddnet.org 19:51 < bridge> before they came from my old domain edgarluque.com ☠️ 20:12 < bridge> Woo, new version hype 20:23 < bridge> epyc 20:34 < bridge> nice 20:34 < bridge> i wonder if it is even worth it to self-host email 20:34 < bridge> or just set up an existing service to use your domain 20:35 < bridge> email security features are quite involved and easy to get wrong 20:35 < bridge> It was so annoying to setup email, that I decided to use gmail for acc testing xd 20:36 < bridge> I really hate these 500 step guides 20:50 < bridge> anyone pro in tree-sitter? 20:50 < bridge> I was trying to make highlighting for `this` keyword so it should be of type `@variable` if it's used in a function or `@keyword` if it's inside a method. I tried using `has-ancestor?` predicate and.. it did nothing, here's the whole thing: 20:50 < bridge> ``` 20:50 < bridge> ((this) @variable 20:50 < bridge> (#has-ancestor? @keyword method_declaration)) 20:50 < bridge> ``` 20:50 < bridge> https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/tree-sitter-meraki/compare/master...feat/this-highlighting 20:51 < bridge> i bet you could paste it exactly as it is into an llm. gtg i cant help 20:53 < bridge> just use mailcow 20:53 < bridge> i just did and it wrote nothing useful 20:58 < bridge> i canceled my fastmail 5€ subscription which only lets you have 1 real domain as sender to a hetzner vps at 5€ with unlimited mails 20:59 < bridge> i cant host it on my main server because MX records and smtp itself leaks ips, its not covered by cloudflare 21:02 < bridge> https://migadu.com/pricing/ is a small email hoster btw 21:02 < bridge> 20$/y 21:02 < bridge> 20 out/day, is this for emails? 21:03 < bridge> This sounds pretty much useless if you can only send 20 mails out a day 21:03 < bridge> this is for a single person's mailbox 21:03 < bridge> oh 😄 21:03 < bridge> 20 emails per day sounds fine for that, and it's not a hard limit 21:03 < bridge> I thought for the account thing 21:03 < bridge> yea, that would be way too little 21:03 < bridge> We are sending roughly 200 to 400 mails out a day 21:04 < bridge> Gmail allows 2000 xd 21:04 < bridge> in the final impl, we'll probably want to not depend on google 21:05 < bridge> It doesn't depend on anything. U can configure it 21:05 < bridge> nice 21:07 < bridge> I just hope whatever mail we'll choice is not landing in spam 21:15 < bridge> In my humble opinion, we should probably send accounts emails through aws or maybe cloudflare has something. We will be sending a lot of mail, if we set up something wrong we'll end up in a google blacklist where we can't easily get out and support won't tell us what's wrong 21:23 < bridge> Cloudflare has emails? 21:26 < bridge> but I think we should send them from our own domain, even if we use a third-party service 21:28 < bridge> Yes, from our domain but maybe through someone elses outbound smtp 21:28 < bridge> e.g. AWS 21:29 < bridge> the cool thing is, u can even use steam for acc login, but then switch to a non-steam client 21:29 < bridge> sounds fine unless someone wants to do the email server setup and maintenance dance 21:29 < bridge> i hope steam is simply the most used xd 21:30 < bridge> I'd guess it'll be 21:30 < bridge> Maybe we can outsource it to @ryozuki 😄 21:30 < bridge> I already have nightmares about account recovery requests 21:30 < bridge> we should probably think about a strategy beforehand 21:30 < bridge> i could but i would be target of ddos 21:31 < bridge> mail is rly hard to protect from ddos iirc 21:31 < bridge> Hm, why would it be a problem? Lost access to email? 21:31 < bridge> for email or generally? 21:31 < bridge> otherwise i wouldnt mind 21:31 < bridge> or steam account 21:31 < bridge> I don't think that happens often enough 21:31 < bridge> But yeah, doesn't hurt to have a strategy prepared 21:31 < bridge> @avolicious do you have info on the above? how often do players lose access to their email accounts and have a problem with the kog account due to this? 21:32 < bridge> maybe we could try to detect temporary email addresses and warn players prominently that this is their only chance of account recovery 21:32 < bridge> and that they should consider using a non-temporary email provider 21:32 < bridge> well u detect that with a email confirmation 21:32 < bridge> Maybe a one time static recovery token? If that's also lost shit out of luck 21:32 < bridge> They can get the confirmation mail even if temporary 21:32 < bridge> i mean its their fault 21:33 < bridge> yes. that doesn't mean they won't cause support requests 21:33 < bridge> not sure if that'd improve the situation for the people who'd lose access to their email accounts tbh 21:33 < bridge> well i have no opinion on this, if u want a mail sysadmin i can offer myself to help 21:33 < bridge> at least we'll never here that they lost their password :lol: 21:33 < bridge> but that mail server would be a cheap vps hosted by ddnet 21:33 < bridge> at least to the acc 21:33 < bridge> not mine cuz i dont wanna get ddosed 21:34 < bridge> sounds fine 21:34 < bridge> Idk if it's worth paying for a vps for outbound smtp when we can just pay for AWS SES 21:34 < bridge> we also maybe should have a china dedicated vps mail server maybe 21:34 < bridge> idk 21:35 < bridge> AWS also probably penetrates the great chinese firewall easier than us 21:35 < bridge> i assume we need a chinese acc server anyway xd 21:35 < bridge> the benefit would be handling the data in a non-US country I guess 21:35 < bridge> although I guess we already route all our website traffic through cloudflare 🤷‍♀️ 21:35 < bridge> 100% btw is your implementation of the account server easy to multi-home? 21:36 < bridge> it does that out of the box yeah, but tbf i haven't extensively tested it 21:36 < bridge> unencrypted, even 21:36 < bridge> Many of these big hosters offer gdpr compliant services too. We can probably opt into that 21:36 < bridge> there cannot be a US company handling data in GDPR-compliant manner 21:37 < bridge> They can and probably do have an eu subsidiary that owns those servers 21:37 < bridge> that doesn't help 21:37 < bridge> the US has access to all data, even by subsidiaries of companies inside the US 21:37 < bridge> the US has access to all data, even by subsidiaries outside the US of companies inside the US 21:38 < bridge> by the cloud act, I think 21:38 < bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act 21:38 < bridge> Huh, what if it's all encrypted until the final destination? 21:38 < bridge> our emails can't be encrypted to the provider 21:38 < bridge> unless you want to make it unusable for the common person by using PGP ^^ 21:39 < bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework there's a "framework" for US GDPR compliance every couple of years until it gets invalidated by the european court of justice 21:39 < bridge> Hm, I wonder how this is handled by big companies. What if an eu company sends a mail to my gmail? Google is a US company 21:39 < bridge> because of the obvious illegality wrt. the cloud act 21:39 < bridge> like the above. the EU commision pretends there's a way, then it gets invalidated a couple of years later 21:40 < bridge> This channel has probably got every single person on the planet muted and online, i cant get my msgs cleared :feelsbadman: 21:40 < bridge> Sounds great 21:40 < bridge> ❓ 21:41 < bridge> You know where i got all my msgs checked? Impossible :cammostripes: 21:41 < bridge> I think that's obvious problem is also why there's a small push towards creating european alternatives that would be able to comply with the GDPR 21:41 < bridge> wdym? 21:41 < bridge> is there a strong filter here or smth? xD 21:43 < bridge> So I guess we can also just ignore gdpr I guess 😄 21:43 < bridge> Atleast for this unsolveable case 21:44 < bridge> as long as we route our web server stuff through cloudflare, I agree 21:44 < bridge> cloudflare is the worse problem wrt. data privacy 23:06 < bridge> Isn't this fixable? Shouldn't we issue a origin certificate and start encrypting all the way? 23:09 < bridge> cloudflare always MITMs all traffic 23:10 < bridge> that's their modus operandi 23:15 < bridge> Mh, I guess they kinda have to for cleaning traffic purposes 23:35 < bridge> would it be possible to add tclient to DDNet's steam listing as a beta 🤔 23:35 < bridge> or would it need its own store page 23:35 < bridge> it is a different client but it would be very convenient 23:39 < bridge> I would not feel comfortable shipping anyone elses code in our steam page 23:40 < bridge> why not add the good features to ddnet main 23:40 < bridge> because they don't want them 23:40 < bridge> people can replace the .exe in steam if they want tclient 23:40 < bridge> of course they can 23:41 < bridge> but that is not what im asking at all 23:41 < bridge> they would want to replace the DLLs too 23:41 < bridge> Again, at least I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it 23:41 < bridge> but sooner than any of that, add a non steam game 23:41 < bridge> yeah 23:41 < bridge> makes sense 23:41 < bridge> i don't like that there is a rift like this 23:41 < bridge> tclient is a complete game changer for gores 23:42 < bridge> bcs of fast input? 23:42 < bridge> yea 23:42 < bridge> it's somewhat volatile too 23:43 < bridge> but when it works it's great 23:43 < bridge> i know 23:44 < bridge> it's sadly also refresh rate dependent 23:44 < bridge> monitor hz too 23:46 < bridge> I wonder if we could simply publish other clients as mods on steam 🤔 23:46 < bridge> mods exist on steam, and aren't really related to the main game 23:46 < bridge> This I would be fine with. Idk how mods work and if they are allowed to straight up replace an executable or ship an executable at all though 23:47 < bridge> This I would be fine with. Idk how mods work and if they are allowed to straight up replace an executable and/or ship an executable at all though 23:49 < bridge> we are getting competition from vanilla :lol: 23:49 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1290792744716861540/image.png?ex=66fdbfec&is=66fc6e6c&hm=2a3c1fe1778781ff798938b3898e5a1395e8f6c318ebf3330c57f587348e1a1e& 23:50 < bridge> chillerdragon: i'll get timed out hard, but what do you think about that he used main branch 23:52 < bridge> Seems either private or deleted, I'm getting 404 23:52 < bridge> Yeah probs he didn't know the GH bot posts his commits xD 23:53 < bridge> Well, it does seem like a bug that is posts commits to a private repo 23:53 < bridge> private