09:27 < bridge_> <egyt> By the way, "Tee 0.7" tab name is not localisable
09:28 < bridge_> <egyt> By the way, "Tee 0.7" tab name is not localisable 🥺
09:28 < bridge_> <egyt> By the way, "Tee 0.7" tab name is not localisable
09:34 < bridge_> <tsfreddie> ~~I wouldn't localize it in chinese anyway.~~
09:43 < bridge_> <egyt> I would though
09:44 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> no fucking way it's translated as `тії`
09:44 < bridge_> <learath2> tii
09:45 < bridge_> <egyt> It is, my fellow homo sapiens, it is
09:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> chiller doing the lord's work :'0
09:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> giving zCatch some love
10:02 < bridge_> <teero777> chiller are you a 0.7 maintainer already?
10:02 < bridge_> <learath2> Chiller is the 0.7
10:02 < bridge_> <teero777> Does he merge his own prs tho
10:07 < bridge_> <jxsl13> he's giving zCatch 0.6/0.7 some love
10:07 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> @jxsl13 send good zCatch colors
10:08 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> @teero777 nah i got no powers nowhere :c
10:08 < bridge_> <jxsl13> look in my mod I think in player.cpp or so
10:08 < bridge_> <teero777> ;(
10:08 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> ez steal
10:08 < bridge_> <jxsl13> ez
10:08 < bridge_> <jxsl13> take everything
10:08 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> <:poggers2:1008007455936094328>
10:08 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> u got good colors from professional designer?
10:10 < bridge_> <jxsl13> no
10:10 < bridge_> <jxsl13> it's Teetime's original color
10:10 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> woah what is this black magix algorithm ``color = max(0, 160 - GetNumTotalCaughtPlayers() * 10) * 0x010000 + 0xff00;``
10:11 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> how many kills does it support? does it get stuck at some point?
10:11 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> oke ima try
10:16 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> yeah hm gets stuck at red
10:27 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/zcatch_colors.gif
10:27 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> hmmmm
10:54 < bridge_> <jxsl13> iirc at like 20 kills it was at grey, at least on zCatch 0.7
11:04 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> i need lerato the color wizard to get correct colors mapped from 0.6 to 0.7 xd
12:17 < bridge_> <learath2> my github notifications have grown to an unmanageable level
12:17 < bridge_> <learath2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279022253547327540/image.png?ex=66d2edcc&is=66d19c4c&hm=3f918719550c4a349ed5bd420b5dca7c6af735165c578c75deaee6ff5b0e5873&
12:20 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> stop watching whole repos
12:20 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> then it gets easier
12:25 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279024248068767764/ima_f8cf862.png?ex=66d2efa7&is=66d19e27&hm=00a6e757affd3ecebf2af7920b687242fea04e5976e7fddfc02a89b42dac003f&
12:25 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> lerato githubbing skill issue
12:27 < bridge_> <learath2> I also made a big mistake. I forgot to note down the command I was using to generate my initramfs and it ended up getting pushed out of my bash history. If I make a mistake I might not be able to boot back in to try again 😄
12:28 < bridge_> <.laxa> No backups? 😄
12:29 < bridge_> <learath2> I'll keep one, but idk if I can get my bootloader to use it, never had to use the fallback with this bootloader 😄
12:29 < bridge_> <jxsl13> increase bash history size
12:30 < bridge_> <jxsl13> hehe
12:33 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or you are simply not as relevant as lea, no front
12:37 < bridge_> <egyt> :D
12:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> when will we add Denglish as language
12:38 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Imagine not having your bash history backed up on GitHub.
12:58 < bridge_> <egorddnet> plis help what new name
12:58 < bridge_> <egorddnet> my oCAUNTT
12:58 < bridge_> <egorddnet> HELP
12:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> whats wrong with your current name?
12:59 < bridge_> <egorddnet> YES
12:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i see
13:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> F1 -> `player_name YOUR_NAME`
13:01 < bridge_> <egorddnet> NO NEW NAME MY OCAUNT DDNET
13:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> -# ok then player_name OCAUNT
13:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> can you write your question in your native language?
13:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> russian or chinese
13:02 < bridge_> <egorddnet> IM RUSIAN
13:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> then ask in russian
13:03 < bridge_> <egorddnet> DA
13:03 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Задайте свой вопрос на русском.
13:03 < bridge_> <egorddnet> POMOGI POMENAT IMA V DDNET
13:04 < bridge_> <egorddnet> KAK
13:04 < bridge_> <egorddnet> V GOOGL NE DOET
13:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i told you:
13:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> press F1
13:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> `player_name oCAUNT`
13:04 < bridge_> <egorddnet> I
13:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Я сказал тебе: нажми F1 player_name oCAUNT
13:04 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> lmao pro
13:05 < bridge_> <egorddnet> DAY TGK
13:05 < bridge_> <egorddnet> YA POKOGU
13:06 < bridge_> <egorddnet> JUPSTAR
13:07 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> What’s pokogu?
13:08 < bridge_> <egorddnet> HELP FOR NEW NAME DDNET
13:08 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Maybe oCAUNT is not his name but means account and he wants to transfer points?
13:08 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> What is your name?
13:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i ask him to ask in russian
13:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but he spams his capslock latin letter russian
13:08 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Should work too
13:09 < bridge_> <teero777> JUPSTAR
13:09 < bridge_> <Ewan> I AM EGOR
13:09 < bridge_> <Ewan> I SPEAK VERY ENGLISH
13:09 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Google translate should pick it up but it doesn’t find pokogu
13:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> chatgpt is overloaded with his bad russian xD
13:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279035245966000220/image.png?ex=66d2f9e5&is=66d1a865&hm=5f7c88f3945205ff9daee075b17d9d387bf4cde60ee0653bf093282a76b19ccb&
13:09 < bridge_> <egorddnet> TG
13:09 < bridge_> <egorddnet> TELEGRAM GIVE ME
13:09 < bridge_> <Ewan> NOWWWWW
13:09 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> You can write here
13:10 < bridge_> <egorddnet> YOUR TELEGRAM JUPSTAR
13:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> it's only for family sry
13:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u'll have to marry me first
13:10 < bridge_> <learath2> JUPSTAR GIVE TELEGRAM NOW
13:10 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Xd
13:10 < bridge_> <teero777> I HAVE HIS TELEGRAM
13:10 < bridge_> <egorddnet> YOU ASK RUSIAN
13:11 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> NO YOU
13:11 < bridge_> <egorddnet> TEERO
13:11 < bridge_> <learath2> We are family, the ddnet family
13:11 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> @milkeeycat: help
13:12 < bridge_> <egorddnet> GO TO ME GAME DDNET
13:12 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> What is your name?
13:12 < bridge_> <egorddnet> ?
13:12 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> In game
13:12 < bridge_> <egorddnet> 1 SEK
13:12 < bridge_> <teero777> this u?
13:13 < bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279036138018836573/image.png?ex=66d2faba&is=66d1a93a&hm=d539367794a3d1f6e2c80e830e9c22a925dff841d54305af845097c7cc524af5&
13:13 < bridge_> <egorddnet> piYAR55
13:14 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> omg you left the server again xd
13:14 < bridge_> <teero777> hes on kog
13:14 < bridge_> <teero777> xd
13:15 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> With wat
13:16 < bridge_> <teero777> this goes above my bed
13:16 < bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279036994860875880/image.png?ex=66d2fb86&is=66d1aa06&hm=a6dc1c11719148aa9cfefc2086256bb42cdcac21642dc8a150b241b053fa022c&
13:16 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> we need translator
13:16 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> lmao
13:36 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> ok nvm we solved the language barrier with gaming
13:36 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725017747.png
14:31 < bridge_> <soulyvevo> chillerdragon: make it so that i can use `load_map` on demos
14:31 < bridge_> <soulyvevo> thanks
14:37 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Sure I’ll open an issue. Weird that it doesn’t work
14:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> im motivated
14:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to do a ricv emulator
14:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and run linux on it
14:49 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> почему тут вмсе по английски пишут
14:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i dont hold u back
14:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> what?
14:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to do a riscv emulator
14:49 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> бля
14:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> what?
14:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i cant read your msg
14:50 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> why does everyone write in English?
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> in what language should they write?
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> most ppl here know english
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> we are from all kind of countries
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> germany, spain, italy, turkey
14:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> so we speak english
14:51 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> I don't know Russian or English well
14:52 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> and then I realized why there are so many people who speak English here
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> in #off-topic you can also write russian
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> sometimes there are russians
14:52 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> I'll be using a translator then.
14:53 < bridge_> <qiworzzz> but I understood well, it's just that a lot of people write in English
15:00 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> You know what would be better, if everyone was writing in their mother tongue, hell yeeeeeah
15:01 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> This chat would be all in german 😬
15:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> das stimmt
15:05 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> tja
15:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> isso weilso is
15:14 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> https://youtu.be/fvz2CxyGcyQ @avolicious you could learn a thing or two from that guy hehe. tl;dw he is running million dollar startups with this gigachad techstack: 1vps (16core 500€), no staging, no kubernetes, php, jquery, sqlite3
15:16 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Actually ddnet setup is quite close lol
15:17 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> deen also likes bare metal and beefy vps and ddnet.org uses jquery afaik
15:25 < bridge_> <jxsl13> urgh
15:25 < bridge_> <jxsl13> jquery
15:29 < bridge_> <avolicious> But my client is running K8s and makes multi billion dollars, not million 🙂
15:30 < bridge_> <avolicious> So nearly all my clients are investing into cloud-native, all multi billion dollar companies
15:31 < bridge_> <avolicious> So for me it makes the most sense to invest knowledge into kubernetes, multi-tenant environments and all various kinds of technologies 😄
15:32 < bridge_> <avolicious> But sure, it doesnt always make sense to built it upon a hyperscaling infra. But for me its more a learning process & get some expertise based on a non financial ruin side project 😄
15:32 < bridge_> <learath2> Scuse me, no foreign languages outside #off-topic 🤓
15:37 < bridge_> <avolicious> So chiller, I've looked into some of his websites & he uses other services mostly. He isnt a service provider per se, he just uses other services and is the middleman inbetween. Thats basically not my goal to do in life 😄
15:39 < bridge_> <avolicious> But if you like something like this, to work as a middleware. You can also check some documentaries about dropshipping - same technique ( no legal advise to do from me tho ).
15:43 < bridge_> <learath2> It is my professional opinion that cloud is a scam
15:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> does anyone know if llvm has a riscv assembler?
15:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for riscv assembly
15:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> not llvmir
15:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> btw my emulator name will be rysk
15:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ryokan
15:52 < bridge_> <meloƞ> https://llvm.org/docs/RISCVUsage.html
15:52 < bridge_> <meloƞ> 
15:52 < bridge_> <meloƞ> looks like it
15:53 < bridge_> <meloƞ> ah wait no you still have to convert it to llvmir ig
16:03 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> @learath2 how to differentiate pointer variable declaration and multiplication expression statement, they are both `ident` `*` `ident` :\
16:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but thats to assemble llvmir to risc
16:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i want to assemble assembly to machine
16:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> like riscv64-elf-gcc
16:31 < bridge_> <zhn> if there's nothing in https://github.com/orgs/riscvarchive/ ig there's just nothing
16:33 < bridge_> <learath2> Precedence
16:34 < bridge_> <learath2> Well actually, not even precedence. How is dereference `ident * ident`?
16:35 < bridge_> <avolicious> But companies are paying a lot for cloud resources 😄
16:35 < bridge_> <avolicious> Without naming any company, but I can tell that all my clients are paying more than a million / month for cloud resources 😄
16:35 < bridge_> <learath2> Making more and more money for the corporations
16:36 < bridge_> <avolicious> Yeah, but running on-prem isnt sufficient for serving billions of requests / month
16:37 < bridge_> <learath2> Most people aren't serving billions of requests per month
16:37 < bridge_> <avolicious> But my clients arent most people
16:37 < bridge_> <avolicious> They have the need to serve it, so cloud is sufficient for their use-case
16:37 < bridge_> <learath2> And people were serving billions of requests per month way before aws existed
16:37 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> Wot
16:38 < bridge_> <avolicious> But yeah, you dont have to run everything on a hyperscaler... but the linked yt video from chiller mentions "how to run it on a 400 USD vps"
16:39 < bridge_> <avolicious> Even if he has a small team of a few people, its more than enough. But the larger the company gets, the more fine-grained permissions it needs
16:41 < bridge_> <avolicious> If your company now runs several stores across a country, its also bad to have it on-prem. If there is any problem within this infra, all stores are kinda offline. Cloud eliminates it by providing a flexible way to lift & shift
16:41 < bridge_> <learath2> E.g. the startup I'm currently at would run at one one hundredth the cost if they weren't running on GCP
16:41 < bridge_> <avolicious> Then your startup has a bad deal tho
16:41 < bridge_> <learath2> They are preparing for a scale that will never come
16:41 < bridge_> <avolicious> We are google partners and we can give credits to our clients easily
16:42 < bridge_> <avolicious> Your google key account manager can add funds to your account without worrying about any consequences
16:42 < bridge_> <learath2> There are some operations that will never need this level of hyperscaling. People need to understand their companies will never be the next tik tok
16:42 < bridge_> <learath2> And you exist to serve the few who truly need it
16:43 < bridge_> <avolicious> But traffic is expensive on hyperscalers. Ingress mostly is pretty cheap, but egress is expensive as hell
16:43 < bridge_> <avolicious> So having on-prem and doing a hybrid solution can be more expensive
16:43 < bridge_> <learath2> The compute isn't exactly cheap either
16:43 < bridge_> <avolicious> What are you using for your compute?
16:44 < bridge_> <0xdeen> What choice do I have? If I used cloud for DDNet I'd have to pay 500k€/year 😄
16:45 < bridge_> <learath2> Also the only other alternative isn't on-prem. On-prem is a lot of work and will indeed end up more expensive in all the costs associated. But a lot of companies can run on a handful of off premises bare metal or even vps instances.
16:45 < bridge_> <paralix19> Why on server GER2 and FIN i have 200/400 ping ò.ò
16:46 < bridge_> <learath2> Everything is running on GCP. I didn't see what sort of instances they are running. But I do see the final cost and how many requests we do
16:46 < bridge_> <0xdeen> Be the change you want to see. I moved our tests from AWS to Hetzner at work.
16:46 < bridge_> <learath2> I set up our staging instance on a hetzner vm. It has been a much appreciated cost reduction
16:47 < bridge_> <avolicious> It depends on how you utilize GCP. You can do similar tasks with different tools, they are priced different
16:47 < bridge_> <0xdeen> Problems with peering to Hetzner I guess 😄
16:47 < bridge_> <avolicious> Tbh, thats a problem at hyperscalers. Cost transparency & FinOps in an easy way
16:48 < bridge_> <avolicious> You need basically a team of special trained GCP engineers/architects to get a good result which is likely to be cost efficient
16:48 < bridge_> <learath2> Figuring out the cost is also so hard to do in advance. With a tinfoil hat on I'd go so far as to claim it's on purpose
16:49 < bridge_> <avolicious> I guess your startup doesnt pay this much, but if so, you get a key account manager at google. They can help you in this
16:49 < bridge_> <learath2> With double tinfoil hats on I will make the claim that this entire industry just exists to make it as complicated as possible for non-specialists so there are jobs for specialists who pitch the solutions and so and so on creating an infinite money stream
16:50 < bridge_> <avolicious> Well, there is a lot of money in this industry 😄
16:50 < bridge_> <learath2> We exist at just expensive enough that google won't care about us yet
16:50 < bridge_> <avolicious> I would say its multi-billion dollars a month
16:51 < bridge_> <avolicious> Oh, well maybe we can cover you 😄 I'll ask in the gcp chatroom, maybe someone knows who to ask
16:51 < bridge_> <avolicious> They love this tactic to keep you as a consumer
16:51 < bridge_> <avolicious> They basically set your account balance to a small amount, you are happy, google is happy
16:53 < bridge_> <learath2> Eh I don't care. It's not my money they are spending 🙃
16:54 < bridge_> <learath2> We phased out an old elixir backend which helped a bit. But if this was my startup I'd definitely run it on just a single bare metal server
16:54 < bridge_> <avolicious> 😄
16:54 < bridge_> <learath2> Maybe if I believed it'd scale into multiple countries I'd have a script to set up the server quicker
16:54 < bridge_> <avolicious> Terraform
16:54 < bridge_> <avolicious> No scripts
16:55 < bridge_> <avolicious> You can even manage bare-metal with terraform on hetzner
16:55 < bridge_> <learath2> Ah that's cool. Last I used terrafrom it was basically aws, do, gcp, azure
16:56 < bridge_> <avolicious> You can use any provider, its vendor agnostic
16:56 < bridge_> <avolicious> but aws, do, gcp, azure and a few others are supported by hashicorp itself
16:56 < bridge_> <avolicious> Others are mostly community modules, but they work the same way
16:56 < bridge_> <avolicious> you can also write your own module to support your own provider if needed
16:56 < bridge_> <learath2> Oh that's nice. I didn't know community modules were a thing
16:57 < bridge_> <avolicious> https://registry.terraform.io/browse/modules
16:57 < bridge_> <avolicious> Its actually pretty awesome
16:58 < bridge_> <avolicious> We are using it for any scale. SME and big companies
16:58 < bridge_> <learath2> Back when I was last interested in this sort of automation ansible was still relevant 🙃
16:58 < bridge_> <avolicious> It is still
16:58 < bridge_> <learath2> To be fair not exactly the same thing
16:58 < bridge_> <avolicious> There is a diff in Terraform vs Ansible tho
16:58 < bridge_> <jxsl13> ansible sucks but still widely used
16:59 < bridge_> <avolicious> Why?
16:59 < bridge_> <learath2> Yeah very
16:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> automating a lot of customer configuration is not feasible
16:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> with ansible
16:59 < bridge_> <learath2> What would be your goto in 2024?
16:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> and staying up to date
16:59 < bridge_> <avolicious> ?
16:59 < bridge_> <jxsl13> there is no open source alternative, tho
17:00 < bridge_> <learath2> What would be your corposource alternative?
17:00 < bridge_> <jxsl13> we do our own internal tool for that 🙂
17:00 < bridge_> <avolicious> And thats feasable 🤣
17:00 < bridge_> <jxsl13> we had a lot of problems with ansible
17:00 < bridge_> <learath2> Ah, rolling your own. My favourite. I approve
17:01 < bridge_> <avolicious> Somehow I believe that all DDNet devs have this mindset
17:01 < bridge_> <learath2> So andsible is still the goto for deploying servers?
17:01 < bridge_> <avolicious> Just building everything their own, everytime
17:01 < bridge_> <learath2> Ofc. This is one of the last havens for free-minded developers
17:02 < bridge_> <avolicious> How complex are your setups?
17:02 < bridge_> <avolicious> I guess not that complex, no?
17:02 < bridge_> <learath2> So ansible is still the goto for deploying servers?
17:02 < bridge_> <jxsl13> My team is doing the tooling for our datacenters, so rolling our own is an option 🙂
17:02 < bridge_> <avolicious> I would say that ansible is not working for 2 servers, but having 50 servers its highly recommended
17:03 < bridge_> <learath2> Yeah if you are deploying 2 honestly you'd probably be wasting time writing the playbooks
17:03 < bridge_> <avolicious> Exactly
17:04 < bridge_> <avolicious> But writing own tooling is time consuming, you have to pay people to do it & to fix possible bugs
17:04 < bridge_> <jxsl13> yep
17:05 < bridge_> <jxsl13> who fixes your ansible bugs?
17:05 < bridge_> <avolicious> Which bugs? Bugs in modules?
17:05 < bridge_> <jxsl13> in external modules
17:05 < bridge_> <jxsl13> for example
17:06 < bridge_> <avolicious> Either external maintainers or you & you PR it to help others
17:06 < bridge_> <jxsl13> also costs money and time
17:06 < bridge_> <jxsl13> might be way less than spinning your own
17:06 < bridge_> <avolicious> But less than building your own, maintaining it your own & its not helping others
17:07 < bridge_> <jxsl13> it's not open source, yep
17:07 < bridge_> <avolicious> If it would, you need to afford it as company as well
17:07 < bridge_> <jxsl13> helps our customere
17:07 < bridge_> <jxsl13> s
17:07 < bridge_> <avolicious> You need active maintainers and contributors, otherwise its a dead project as soo many others
17:08 < bridge_> <jxsl13> you need to afford that for sure to make such tools open source. Sadly our company does nearly nothing in the open source regard
17:08 < bridge_> <avolicious> But thats not sad. Its because they wont take this effort
17:09 < bridge_> <avolicious> Open Source isnt free as people often describe it
17:09 < bridge_> <jxsl13> yep. companies sink billions into open source
17:09 < bridge_> <avolicious> You need to actively maintain the project. Either by answering issues/prs or contribute yourself -> company pays salary for employee
17:10 < bridge_> <avolicious> And mostly the open source community likes to say: Hey, just open source it, so you dont have to take care. Well you basically HAVE to take care 😄 Otherwise it will get forked and your initial open source idea is a dead project *blinks his eyes at ddnet* 😄
19:43 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> I don't get it xd
20:22 < bridge_> <j9ijs> Я русский
20:27 < bridge_> <learath2> What is the ident on the left in a deref expression?
20:29 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> I wasn't talking about deref expression
20:29 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> But about variable declaration
20:30 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> Like `MyStruct* ptr;`
20:44 < bridge_> <qwalreex> Русские есть?
20:57 < bridge_> <jxsl13> #off-topic
20:59 < bridge_> <egyt> either russians are trolling us, or we should move "Development" category below the "DDraceNetwork" one
21:00 < bridge_> <zhn> they're to young to understand
21:00 < bridge_> <zhn> they're too young to understand
21:01 < bridge_> <egyt> who would have said that
21:10 < bridge_> <.tajm> hi, ive recently installed ddnet on linux mint through zipped file (tar), cuz ddnet on package manager is outdated. When i unpacked it, it has no icons, how can i make icons appear?
21:26 < bridge_> <jxsl13> linux magic is required
21:26 < bridge_> <jxsl13> gotta google that
21:26 < bridge_> <jxsl13> some config file in some folder is required for that
21:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> unpack all files
21:48 < bridge_> <.tajm> i did unpack all files, how can i unpack part of files? xD
21:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> unpack the .tar too
21:51 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> C in meraki stands for consistency
21:51 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279166631335038986/image.png?ex=66d37442&is=66d222c2&hm=eeeaf5d17693d425c1e0ed7ad6daf15cfef0dcd42263b75d42be9835893fc64f&
21:52 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> (i ran the same program 10 times and it gives different results each time)
22:31 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> тут люди которые разговаривают на русском есть?
22:32 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> why did you decide to write it in #developer ?
22:32 < bridge_> <nouaa> cause it's the first channel they see
22:33 < bridge_> <nouaa> where they can write
22:33 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> No Russia?
22:33 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> time to call big boi gdb 😬
22:33 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> Я ВАС НЕ ПОНИМАТЬ
22:33 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> ИДИ В #off-topic
22:34 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> БЛЯ
22:34 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> пацаны
22:34 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> помогите
22:34 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> :bluestripe:
22:34 < bridge_> <nouaa> ИДИ В ⁠off-topic
22:34 < bridge_> <nouaa> ИДИ В ⁠off-topic
22:34 < bridge_> <nouaa> ИДИ В ⁠off-topic
22:35 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> я гонял с читом признаю свою ошибку забанили но разбан должен быть еще 3 часа назад
22:35 < bridge_> <nouaa> :kek:
22:35 < bridge_> <nouaa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279177678993231902/05035F71-CE89-4E73-96AE-BC7DE046333F.png?ex=66d37e8c&is=66d22d0c&hm=a6ccf05ae6be81d4213e86ba0119e6a739fc03f21109907385fda297a09ba541&
22:35 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
22:41 < bridge_> <learath2> You have finally arrived at a point that I actually don't know. I have only a clue. I think C doesn't allow expressions on their own. So this can't be an expression
22:42 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> :thonk:
22:42 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279179485320839200/image.png?ex=66d3803b&is=66d22ebb&hm=44e8d219a3517426f1059b8fb6053a08d97e4656dea7f1bb73bff4bb50190653&
22:44 < bridge_> <zaerin__> Where can I get this information as json on ddnet.org?
22:44 < bridge_> <zaerin__> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279179847847116861/image0.jpg?ex=66d38091&is=66d22f11&hm=abbf20f836890e20eb890b32d8660ce2960d7284dcdcfa18f50d9715b5504fec&
22:44 < bridge_> <learath2> Ok, I'm wrong. Then idk how this is handled for once
22:44 < bridge_> <learath2> I'm also extremely drunk
22:44 < bridge_> <learath2> Like about to pass out. So maybe tomorrow I'll know
22:45 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> do you want to read fun fun assembly
22:45 < bridge_> <learath2> Show me. Idk if my in-brain assembler is still operational though
22:45 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> my neanderthal brain can't do anything even with gdb xddd
22:46 < bridge_> <learath2> I remember C being context free, but perhaps it's not? If it's not context free then left side wouldn't be `ident`
22:47 < bridge_> <learath2> It would be `type * ident` vs `ident * ident` then there is no conflict
22:47 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1279180741305045003/image.png?ex=66d38166&is=66d22fe6&hm=a2f7767c30f1e5a44ab1a340084920b1c612685eaa1a41b4b20a28bc152b0c21&
22:47 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> it returns sometimes true, sometimes false 😬
22:48 < bridge_> <teero777> First non-deterministic machine let's goo :D
22:48 < bridge_> <learath2> Too long for the drunk version of the assembler sorry
22:49 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> bye
22:49 < bridge_> <zaerin__> found it.
22:49 < bridge_> <learath2> Tis not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure
22:49 < bridge_> <vladislav_durex> bye bye
22:49 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> It's so joe over
22:58 < bridge_> <milkeeycat> Omfg, it moves 0 into `r14b` but later in `cmp` uses `r14d`