03:28 < ws-client> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1722475642.png 03:28 < ws-client> Does someone know why it uses `jne 115d` here? whats 115d? Why does it say jump not equal when i use ``==`` in C ? 03:33 < ws-client> Ah i get it. So 115d is the memory address it jumps to. Which is the line after the puts call. Seems so straightforward now haha. 04:17 < bridge> sega dreamcast 04:17 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268392090409242634/image.png?ex=66ac41af&is=66aaf02f&hm=a88b14eeefcce1abdb2533e829d3a41569581b76483ca1b82846ae3567bb5af9& 04:18 < bridge> sega dreamcast 04:18 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268392413945266308/image.png?ex=66ac41fd&is=66aaf07d&hm=1c369cec8c4082ef9a6e9edfc822fa44530dbae629c6ab32f6b5bdc8d9968d8e& 04:23 < bridge> stop this, at this rate you'll get it in TI-84 04:24 < bridge> https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274 04:25 < ws-client> epic 04:34 < ws-client> how is two dwords not the same as one qword??? 04:34 < ws-client> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1722479611.png 04:34 < ws-client> https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/f8 04:35 < ws-client> can `mov` only do 32 bit max? 04:36 < bridge> gm 05:48 < ws-client> Intoroducing typos and then fixing them is infinite commit glitch 05:48 < ws-client> Intoroducing gg 07:05 < bridge> Ok, did you read the dragon book btw? :justatest: 08:17 < bridge> No 08:18 < bridge> Nope, I did skim through a couple pages but I didn't really think I could read it. Looked far too detailed 08:22 < ws-client> TRIVIA TIME!!!!!!!!!! 08:22 < ws-client> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1722493331.png 08:22 < ws-client> is this nasm assembly or ruby code? 08:26 < bridge> Nasm 08:29 < ws-client> -.- yes 08:29 < ws-client> but it looks as hot as ruby 08:30 < ws-client> or at least not much more verbose than the C++ version :p 08:30 < ws-client> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1722493445.png 08:31 < bridge> Honestly props, I actually could never be assed to do this in assembly 😄 08:41 < ws-client> u asmr pro 08:41 < ws-client> lea rath, 2 08:49 < bridge> morning 09:51 < bridge> ``` 09:51 < bridge> main: 09:51 < bridge> push rbp 09:51 < bridge> mov rbp, rsp 09:51 < bridge> sub rsp, 16 09:51 < bridge> ``` 09:51 < bridge> @learath2 can i write in `[rbp]` 09:52 < bridge> ``` 09:52 < bridge> main: 09:52 < bridge> push rbp 09:52 < bridge> mov rbp, rsp 09:52 < bridge> sub rsp, 16 09:52 < bridge> ``` 09:52 < bridge> @learath2 can i write in `[rbp]`? 09:52 < bridge> Why not? 09:54 < bridge> why does gcc move first variable in `[rbp-1]` ;-; 09:54 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268476916973834303/image.png?ex=66ac90b0&is=66ab3f30&hm=642bfb72cd88adcac399de550799b3b4b238316e9a9310fcca6d0e69d2ac5ba2& 09:56 < bridge> stop learning. you are making me jealous 09:56 < bridge> fr 09:56 < bridge> Why not? 🙃 09:56 < bridge> guess the razer order 09:56 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268477560828858398/image.png?ex=66ac9149&is=66ab3fc9&hm=02c927adac8df5b3d03eb065da5e466a78b9dfc4fbaea077de7d6da52faf0d6d& 09:56 < bridge> fair 09:57 < bridge> broken graphics overlays 09:57 < bridge> close 09:57 < bridge> go PR 09:57 < bridge> the cheating keyboard 09:57 < bridge> exactly 09:57 < bridge> are they open source? 09:57 < bridge> is it open source? 09:57 < bridge> i'd buy wooting really 09:57 < bridge> XD god damn it, no i dont think so LMAO 09:57 < bridge> xD 09:57 < bridge> wait 09:58 < bridge> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09:58 < bridge> is that new record? 09:58 < bridge> nah my current one is broken and i cba to wait 1 1/2 months for shipping 09:58 < bridge> even tho i considered it 09:58 < bridge> i would give you mine if i'm german 09:58 < bridge> come visit me jupsti and chiller frfr 09:58 < bridge> with what opt flag is that? 09:58 < bridge> we need to get chiller back into germany first tho... 09:58 < bridge> just got my passport 09:58 < bridge> i think now he could visit chiller xd 09:58 < bridge> i mean just renewed my passport 09:59 < bridge> in asia 09:59 < bridge> i don't have any custom flags 09:59 < bridge> where is chiller now? 09:59 < bridge> chillerdragon: where 09:59 < bridge> somewhere sunny 09:59 < bridge> dude constantly just heads out to the beach 09:59 < bridge> but it's always sunny in philadelphia 09:59 < bridge> do -Ofast then your whole function is gone 09:59 < bridge> 😬 10:00 < bridge> explain more 10:00 < bridge> time to ask chat gpt 😬 10:00 < bridge> `-Ofast`, more like `-Oignore-standards-and-break-my-code` 10:01 < bridge> I dont directly agree with the second but yes 10:01 < bridge> for floating points it could indeed break your code 10:01 < bridge> cool 10:01 < bridge> even -O1 already removes your code 10:01 < bridge> so Ofast not needed here 10:02 < bridge> then do static void fn 10:02 < bridge> then the definition is gone too 10:02 < bridge> xd 10:02 < bridge> I was hoping you'd elaborate more but given this conversation is quickly fleeting. I wanted to say that writing directly to [rbp] isn't fine. Writing to offsets from it is obviously fine, that's it's point 10:03 < bridge> Now that I look again at the question, perhaps you were confused as to why gcc wasn't using [rbp] for the first variable 10:03 < bridge> yep 10:03 < bridge> we got a thinker 10:04 < bridge> so if i do `sub rsp, 3` i can write to [rbp - 1..3]? 10:04 < bridge> so if i do `sub rsp, 3` i can write to [rbp - 1..=3]? 10:05 < bridge> you must only adjust `rsp` by multiples of 16 10:05 < bridge> it works for now, if it breaks one day because of alignment ill fix it 10:06 < bridge> it'll likely break in random places 🤷‍♀️ 10:07 < bridge> it will be fun debug experience 10:08 < bridge> @milkeeycat will u also write an optimizer? 10:08 < bridge> i know only about constant folding xd 10:08 < bridge> what are you writing exactly? @milkeeycat 10:09 < bridge> a compiler for cringe version of C language 10:09 < bridge> epic 10:09 < bridge> but now it's more like a calculator with functions :lol: 10:10 < bridge> don't forget to add a SPIR-V target. 10:10 < bridge> Sorry, I got pinged on slack by my capitalist overlords, but I think you have it figured out 10:11 < bridge> is SPIR-V general purpose 10:12 < bridge> you can always make a pr with a new target 😬 10:12 < bridge> i assume so 10:12 < bridge> i thought it was shader only 10:13 < bridge> @milkeeycat https://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/09/06/stack-frame-layout-on-x86-64/ this is a pretty nice blogpost. Probably what clicked it for me 10:13 < bridge> i mean aren't shaders also general purpose? 10:13 < bridge> compute shaders are pretty OG 10:13 < bridge> are they tho 10:13 < bridge> you already sent this blog post, and I've read it :DD 10:13 < bridge> are they arent 10:15 < bridge> huh really? I don't remember sending it 10:16 < bridge> why do we need cuda again? 10:16 < bridge> to get more performance 10:16 < bridge> on nvidia cards 10:16 < bridge> :justatest: are shaders slow? 10:17 < bridge> no, but sometimes the 10% more perf matter 10:17 < bridge> cuda also isnt perfect, it will be replaced sooner or later 10:17 < bridge> i don't understand i guess 10:18 < bridge> i always wondered why AI stuff isn't just a bunch of compute shaders 10:18 < bridge> oh I remember this link, I probably checked that post myself xd 10:18 < bridge> compute shaders are a try to basically merge 10:18 < bridge> 10:18 < bridge> OpenCL into OpenGL 10:18 < bridge> 10:18 < bridge> so vulkan can basically do both 10:18 < bridge> and OpenCL is basically cuda in bad 10:18 < bridge> 😂 10:19 < bridge> The entire blog is pretty good eli very smort 10:19 < bridge> i mean strictly speaking they might even be.. compute here simply means that it doesnt follow the concept of graphics pipelines 10:19 < bridge> at least not as a hard requirement 10:19 < bridge> yep, even cave man like me learnt a lot of new xd 10:21 < bridge> comment left, problem solved, code commited :greenthing: 10:21 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268483783561187380/image.png?ex=66ac9715&is=66ab4595&hm=c9745f8c012f564222d2d0a0947baa80912824e2f43d914391e7c899149a8fd7& 10:23 < bridge> still don't understand but i'm mentally tapped out 10:23 < bridge> Without the -1 you are writing to `[rbp]`, destroying your very initial `push rbp` 10:23 < bridge> ok, make sure to not crash when tabbing in again.. drivers are very unstable 10:25 < bridge> `[rsp]` points to the lowest byte of what you pushed 10:25 < bridge> `[rsp]` to `[rsp+7]` is the last push 10:26 < bridge> so if you do `push rbp; mov rbp, rsp; mov [rbp], 0`, then you're destroying a byte of the pushed, old `rbp` 10:36 < bridge> ok, i get it now, thanks a lot xd 10:38 < bridge> i think i'm just stupid 10:38 < bridge> welcome in tha club 10:41 < bridge> club sandwich 10:42 < bridge> ok now i finally have correct write only structs xD 10:45 < bridge> :Celebrate: 10:45 < bridge> i guess it was an easy part and it took me so much time :pepeW: 10:55 < bridge> @milkeeycat if u want to optimize seriously, u need to have a intermediate IR that is in SSA form, and if u want it more serious, you need to have tables of the target instructions with their size, latencies, etc 10:56 < bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_single-assignment_form 10:56 < bridge> this is vital 10:57 < bridge> There was also one more form that is commonly used 10:57 < bridge> interesting, even go has an ssa these days? 10:57 < bridge> Actually maybe "commonly" is not the correct word 10:57 < bridge> > In functional language compilers, such as those for Scheme and ML, continuation-passing style (CPS) is generally used. SSA is formally equivalent to a well-behaved subset of CPS excluding non-local control flow, so optimizations and transformations formulated in terms of one generally apply to the other. Using CPS as the intermediate representation is more natural for higher-order functions and interprocedural analysis. CPS also easily encodes ca 10:57 < bridge> its used in functional i guess 10:58 < bridge> Ah perhaps I was thinking about CPS 10:58 < bridge> they have a package https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/tools/go/ssa 10:58 < bridge> but idk if they use it 10:58 < bridge> probs yes tbh its the only real way used nowadays 10:59 < bridge> java does it too 10:59 < bridge> https://compilers.cs.uni-saarland.de/papers/bbhlmz13cc.pdf 11:00 < bridge> > Package ssa defines a representation of the elements of Go programs (packages, types, functions, variables and constants) using a static single-assignment (SSA) form intermediate representation (IR) for the bodies of functions. 11:00 < bridge> xd 11:02 < bridge> mono, webkit, go, swift, erlang, llvm, gcc, jvm, pypy, android, luajit, php, hack, libfirm and some mesa drivers for shading 11:02 < bridge> some examples 11:02 < bridge> who is not using ssa? @ryozuki 11:02 < bridge> > SPIR-V, the shading language standard for the Vulkan graphics API and kernel language for OpenCL compute API, is an SSA representation 11:02 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks 11:02 < bridge> im goofying around, it's not a serious language 11:03 < bridge> why not goof around with good perf? xd 11:04 < bridge> idk 11:04 < bridge> i guess an example would be @milkeeycat lang 11:04 < bridge> :gigachad: 11:04 < bridge> damn 11:05 < bridge> Perhaps older C compilers don't 11:05 < bridge> because you don't want to do normal lang no. 2 11:05 < bridge> because you don't want to do normal lang no. 2341 11:05 < bridge> i would say ssa has nothing to do with the lang being normal or esoteric 11:06 < bridge> maybe turbopascal 11:07 < bridge> I was thinking Borland 11:07 < bridge> I think without ssa form it's really hard to do stuff like data-flow analysis 11:23 < bridge> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/amazons-exabyte-scale-migration-from-apache-spark-to-ray-on-amazon-ec2/ 15:29 < bridge> what is `ni` command in `run.sh` script: 15:29 < bridge> ```bash 15:29 < bridge> #!/bin/sh 15:29 < bridge> while true; do 15:29 < bridge> mv servers/$1.log servers/$1.log.old 15:29 < bridge> ni -15 2 ./DDRace-Server_sql -f servers/$1.cfg 15:29 < bridge> sleep 1 15:29 < bridge> done 15:29 < bridge> ``` 15:29 < bridge> cant find it 15:36 < bridge> looks like `nice` maybe 15:37 < bridge> /usr/local/bin/ni 15:37 < bridge> ``` 15:37 < bridge> #!/bin/sh 15:37 < bridge> [ $# -lt 3 ] && echo "Usage: ni 19 3 command" >&2 && exit 1 15:37 < bridge> NICE=$1 15:37 < bridge> shift 15:37 < bridge> IONICE=$1 15:37 < bridge> shift 15:38 < bridge> exec nice -n $NICE ionice -c $IONICE "$@" 15:38 < bridge> ``` 15:38 < bridge> /usr/local/bin/ni 15:38 < bridge> ```sh 15:38 < bridge> #!/bin/sh 15:38 < bridge> [ $# -lt 3 ] && echo "Usage: ni 19 3 command" >&2 && exit 1 15:38 < bridge> NICE=$1 15:38 < bridge> shift 15:38 < bridge> IONICE=$1 15:38 < bridge> shift 15:38 < bridge> exec nice -n $NICE ionice -c $IONICE "$@" 15:38 < bridge> ``` 15:38 < bridge> thanks! 15:38 < bridge> do you have this file on github? 15:38 < bridge> I don't know 15:54 < bridge> can the game start lagging if I have entities turned off? :thonk: 15:56 < bridge> the normal mode is graphically heavier than entities mode 15:56 < bridge> ye, but I have higher ping xd 15:56 < bridge> not lower fps 15:57 < bridge> so same fps? 15:57 < bridge> ye 15:58 < bridge> maybe your GPU sucks all energy from your network controller ^^ 15:58 < bridge> 😬 16:00 < bridge> hm, now everything's fine xd 16:02 < bridge> Really? I actually thought the text made the entities mode heavier 16:02 < bridge> what text xd 16:02 < bridge> Tele numbers 16:03 < bridge> that has been fixed since like the first release of opengl 3.3 16:03 < bridge> xd 16:03 < bridge> 😄 16:03 < bridge> ❤️ @jupeyy_keks 16:03 < bridge> I'm an old person 16:03 < bridge> truely old 😄 16:03 < bridge> 12 16:03 < bridge> https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-15302685 16:04 < bridge> https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451 16:04 < bridge> back in my day entities were bad for fps 16:06 < bridge> yeah, same for speedup arrows 16:18 < bridge> https://www.desmos.com/calculator/2mtfvczlrh 16:18 < bridge> Do not zoom in on my non-continuous feet 16:19 < bridge> looks better than 0.7 skins 16:19 < bridge> LOL 16:20 < bridge> rude 16:20 < bridge> tru 16:23 < bridge> someone stole my code -.- I remember i wrote stuff how to move memory from indirect to indirect place and it's not here 16:25 < bridge> Do a `rep movs` if you want to annoy everyone 16:25 < bridge> what's that? xd 16:26 < bridge> It's an instruction, it will repeat `movs` `ecx` times 16:27 < bridge> why does it even exist xd 16:27 < bridge> upd. it was in stash xddd 16:29 < bridge> it's basically a copy loop implemented at the microcode level, it used to be fast, then it was slow, now it's fast-ish for large enough input but still not sure if fast enough to beat vectorized memcpy 16:33 < bridge> average rust chain 16:33 < bridge> ```rs 16:33 < bridge> cur_weapon: render_info 16:33 < bridge> .character_infos 16:33 < bridge> .get(&local_render_info.player_id) 16:33 < bridge> .and_then(|c| c.stage_id.and_then(|id| render_info.stages.get(&id))) 16:33 < bridge> .and_then(|s| s.world.characters.get(&local_render_info.player_id)) 16:33 < bridge> .map(|player| player.cur_weapon) 16:33 < bridge> .unwrap_or_default() 16:33 < bridge> ``` 16:33 < bridge> functional programming be like 16:33 < bridge> ddnet in haskell when? 16:33 < bridge> my next project then 16:39 < bridge> @robyt3 do you already locally worked on a serializable structure for arbitrary buttons? or is your pr open to be extended 16:48 < bridge> I designed most of it on paper but I haven't coded it yet. The button config would be serialized as json of course. 16:49 < bridge> cool. is that piece of paper something you'd be willing to share? 😮 16:49 < bridge> god now i have roby in my mind sitting in front of a high end setup with RGB and everything, writing his code structures on a Din A5 piece of paper with a sharpie 16:50 < bridge> maybe that's why you're so productive roby.. i should try that 16:51 < bridge> yeah i assumed so. 16:51 < bridge> 16:51 < bridge> that also makes sense i guess, but sadly directly requires the GUI for it too, i hoped i can sneak in a ugly console command to add buttons similar to how friends and stuff are added in the config xd 16:51 < bridge> yeah, can share it later 16:51 < bridge> did you literally do it on paper or what xd 16:51 < bridge> i thought that was a metaphore xD 16:52 < bridge> could also be a super large whiteboard next to the pc 16:52 < bridge> yeah, but if you have any tools that are faster to use for class diagram modeling than paper let me know 😄 16:52 < bridge> i do everything in my head xD 16:53 < bridge> i think i never used any designing tools 16:53 < bridge> nor paper 16:53 < bridge> if you're willing to go digital, get a small drawing pad for like 50€ - they're super useful for notetaking and dont take up much space! 16:53 < bridge> nor notes 16:53 < bridge> paper is also an amazing superpower 16:53 < bridge> well i do todo lists 16:53 < bridge> costs like <0.01€ per sheet 16:54 < bridge> i am poor i need to use my brain 16:54 < bridge> the problem with doing anything on paper is, that i can't read it after like 2 days because my handwriting is awful awful 16:55 < bridge> but isnt imagination the best tool 16:55 < bridge> one of my students kindly asked me if i have one of the answers digitally because my handwriting was ⭐special⭐ 16:55 < bridge> u can visualize it like a 3d graph 16:55 < bridge> i couldn't do that on pc 16:59 < bridge> I started taking my handwritten notes on an ipad, that helped me a lot with taking better notes 16:59 < bridge> The curve smoothing makes my shit handwriting more readable, and I can search through my notes because of OCR 17:00 < bridge> oh wow you reminded me i have a ipad mini somewhere... might look for it later 17:00 < bridge> I had one that worked perfectly, but the drivers seem broken now 17:00 < bridge> Would have liked to use it to test touch controls directly on Windows 17:02 < bridge> i have the huion H640P, works great for me 17:02 < bridge> i wait for the handwritten design approach 17:05 < bridge> I used to have a wacom tablet for a while that I used to play osu. Then I gifted it to a friend that draws 17:09 < bridge> can i apply to add a new language to game and also flag? 17:09 < bridge> which language is it 17:09 < bridge> siluesian 17:10 < bridge> silesian 17:11 < bridge> are there silesians that don't speak polish? 17:11 < bridge> yes 17:12 < bridge> really? lmao 17:12 < bridge> lol ive met one that just spoke silesian 17:12 < bridge> and no other language? 17:12 < bridge> i mean maybe english 17:12 < bridge> well i'd open an issue on discord 17:12 < bridge> but he could very well understand me 17:12 < bridge> and ask there 17:12 < bridge> :D 17:14 < bridge> btw are there galians that dont speak spanish/portuguese? 17:17 < bridge> on github* 17:35 < bridge> i havent written on paper since years 17:35 < bridge> im down bad 17:35 < bridge> ok i signed some stuff 17:35 < bridge> but idk if that counts 17:43 < bridge> similar 😄 17:56 < bridge> <3x1st_> chiller ask here? 17:56 < bridge> <3x1st_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268598251079208970/image.png?ex=66ad01b0&is=66abb030&hm=da2b4ca8989077108cea39484cbfc1b4fa6e7ae9e094206e69d7769006475c32& 18:04 < bridge> try `rustup default stable-x86_64-pc-windows-gnu` or `rustup default stable-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc` depending on what you're using 18:15 < bridge> @learath2 you will probably die of cringe when you look at this assembly but it works :poggers2: 18:15 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268603075451424889/image.png?ex=66ad062e&is=66abb4ae&hm=f0b8eea23f7c6ff54808a02d760bbf6dcf974a33a834025452264bcb7a7a90d9& 18:15 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268603075812262041/image.png?ex=66ad062e&is=66abb4ae&hm=46a38bbb8ca77a9001102179469fcf81a7fc9ace019d16ba570416074fc3f5ee& 18:15 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268603076147937433/image.png?ex=66ad062e&is=66abb4ae&hm=5c9461f261bb769360cdcc3a79d300c29764907be7bf8a31afdc8879ce3a1460& 18:18 < bridge> Doesn't look that bad for hand generated assembly 18:19 < bridge> Why the weird jump to next line at the end? 18:19 < bridge> that's how `return` keyword works :justatest: 18:20 < bridge> Why does it generate a label, insert the label right after, then unconditionally jump to it? 18:22 < bridge> it sets return value and jumps to clean up lablel xd 18:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268604855212179496/image.png?ex=66ad07d7&is=66abb657&hm=830864aa7c669c52b7253351308a4555ba1f1408681f1e6b3840500653a5dc58& 18:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268604855468167281/image.png?ex=66ad07d7&is=66abb657&hm=e0aa75bd16dc593f69904542afa375a6350556a1bb001bb7800a783d8f122b77& 18:22 < bridge> it sets return value and jumps to clean up label xd 18:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268604855212179496/image.png?ex=66ad07d7&is=66abb657&hm=830864aa7c669c52b7253351308a4555ba1f1408681f1e6b3840500653a5dc58& 18:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268604855468167281/image.png?ex=66ad07d7&is=66abb657&hm=e0aa75bd16dc593f69904542afa375a6350556a1bb001bb7800a783d8f122b77& 18:23 < bridge> OH now I get it you support early returns too 18:23 < bridge> 😏 18:23 < bridge> very advanced language 18:24 < bridge> xddd 18:24 < bridge> siiick! 18:25 < bridge> if I add pointers next, then it will be even possible to make something fun in it 18:25 < bridge> oh, and control flow statements xd 18:26 < bridge> no way you will allow us to jiggle memory 18:43 < bridge> can dragger beams drag multiple people? 18:47 < bridge> I don't think so 18:47 < bridge> the serverside code sugests that but it doesnt seem so 18:47 < bridge> ``` 18:47 < bridge> int m_aTargetIdInTeam[MAX_CLIENTS]; 18:47 < bridge> CDraggerBeam *m_apDraggerBeam[MAX_CLIENTS]; 18:47 < bridge> ``` 18:47 < bridge> It's 1 player by beam from my experience 18:47 < bridge> ``` 18:47 < bridge> int m_aTargetIdInTeam[MAX_CLIENTS]; 18:47 < bridge> CDraggerBeam *m_apDraggerBeam[MAX_CLIENTS]; 18:47 < bridge> ``` 18:47 < bridge> maybe per team? 18:47 < bridge> yes 18:47 < bridge> 1 player per beam per team 18:47 < bridge> okay that makes sens 18:47 < bridge> okay that makes sense 18:57 < bridge> @heinrich5991 Would you say that we should use the personal pronoun in the polite form (Sie) on the wiki? or rather (du) to sound friendlier? for german translations 18:57 < bridge> not sure, using `sie` feels way to strict, but it's an official wiki after all 19:12 < bridge> Sie 19:32 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks 19:32 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1268622402313519154/image.png?ex=66ad182e&is=66abc6ae&hm=eb47c8a58076b30a905e999e6b41e0cef4eedaba935933fca5d8ba089bf07506& 19:34 < bridge> for a game? du 19:34 < bridge> fair 19:34 < bridge> even the official wikipedia uses du, I think 19:49 < bridge> nice, did you submit already? 19:49 < bridge> i dont really have experience working with vulkan's API at all 19:49 < bridge> i mean i could submit telling that i play my games with it and it works (sometimes) 19:50 < bridge> shots fired 19:58 < bridge> The touch controls design notes. The json format to represent this would look similar to this: 19:58 < bridge> ```json 19:58 < bridge> { 19:58 < bridge> "direct_touch": true, 19:58 < bridge> "buttons": [ 19:58 < bridge> { 19:58 < bridge> "position": { 19:58 < bridge> "x": 110, 19:58 < bridge> "y": 0, 19:58 < bridge> "w": 10, 19:58 < bridge> "h": 10 19:58 < bridge>