03:03 < bridge> <TsFreddie> is it common practice to have a backend always return HTTP 200 plus a status code to indicate errors rather than using other HTTP codes.
03:03 < bridge> <TsFreddie> our java backend devs seems to prefer 200 always
03:17 < bridge> <0xdeen> I haven't seen that. Errors should return an error code. Just because your library makes handling those annoying is not an excuse to not use error codes.
03:40 < bridge> <TsFreddie> :owo: cool
03:43 < bridge> <TsFreddie> i'm guessing they want the confidence to say it is not their fault for anything non-200 and pass the problem as faults of load balancers and such to SAs (server administrators)
03:44 < bridge> <TsFreddie> still weird tho
08:27 < bridge> <reitw> `This class of status codes indicates the action requested by the client was received, understood, and accepted`
08:28 < bridge> <reitw> Which means 200 is on the http level, the body response can contain an error about the processed data for some reason
09:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> web dev is a free warzone
09:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> everybody does what they want
09:57 < bridge> <reitw> Yup
10:13 < bridge> <teero777> You can't even shoot yourself properly ;(
11:11 < bridge> <TsFreddie> imagine web
12:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2  https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-functional-programming/article/knuthmorrispratt-illustrated/8EFA77D663D585B68630E372BCE1EBA4
12:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> remember aho corasick?
12:38 < bridge> <learath2> Is it from this journal volume?
12:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> idk
12:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> but this is a algo related to search
12:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> > String search is a classic problem. Given a string, the pattern, determine if it occurs in a longer string, the text. String search can be solved in O(n+m) time and O(m) space, where n is the size of the text and m is the size of the pattern. Unfortunately, the algorithm that does so, Knuth–Morris–Pratt (KMP) (Knuth et al., Reference Knuth, Morris and Pratt1977), is hard to understand. Its pseudocode is short, but most explanations of it are 
14:18 < bridge> <patiga> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1230130286487142440/2024-04-17-141754_1920x1080_scrot.png?ex=6632331b&is=661fbe1b&hm=f0ed83e7532f6bff6a4b818020271fd140821d819f7e8e399b0e20429e7514ea&
14:19 < bridge> <patiga> ^ mipmap debugging going on, found the image oddly appealing
14:35 < bridge> <teero777> Looks funny
14:43 < bridge> <learath2> Have any of you heard of "Durable Execution"? It's quite an interesting concept
14:57 < bridge> <learath2> It's like a distributed job queue that is very tolerant to failure by way of having the ability to just resume any job at any point
16:08 < bridge> <iandemre> Dones anyoye give deep fly code?
16:08 < bridge> <iandemre> pls
16:44 < bridge> <learath2> https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/Binds#Deepfly
18:04 < bridge> <milkeeycat> is it possible to save logs to `$CURRENTDIR/filename` not `$USERDIR/filename`
18:13 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> that gives the phrase MIP a completely new interpretation 😄
18:13 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
18:13 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> "The letters MIP in the name are an acronym of the Latin phrase multum in parvo, meaning "much in little"."
18:16 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> why the fucking hell does gitlab require a phone number to register
18:17 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> instant cancel
18:17 < bridge> <teero777> 🤣
18:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> biggest bullshit i've ever seen
18:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> and they advertise with privacy
18:19 < bridge> <teero777> btw is there a good irc chat nvim plugin?
18:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> so when you normally register to gitlab u dont need phone number
18:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but if you register over github they want it
18:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> now jupeyy is taken by an account that will never exist :lol: 😭
18:31 < bridge> <teero777> oof
18:33 < bridge> <0xdeen> Put `add_path $CURRENTDIR` at the top of storage.cfg I think
19:19 < bridge> <robyt3> You could specify the logfile with an absolute path. If you change the first storage location then everything will be saved there
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/perlis-alan/quotes.html
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki>  1. One man's constant is another man's variable.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 2. Functions delay binding; data structures induce binding. Moral: Structure data late in the programming process.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 3. Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semicolon.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 4. Every program is a part of some other program and rarely fits.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 5. If a program manipulates a large amount of data, it does so in a small number of ways.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 6. Symmetry is a complexity-reducing concept (co-routines include subroutines); seek it everywhere.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 7. It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 9. It is better to have 100 functions operate on one data structure than 10 functions on 10 data structures.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 10. Get into a rut early: Do the same process the same way. Accumulate idioms. Standardize. The only difference(!) between Shakespeare and you was the size of his idiom list - not the size of his vocabulary.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 11. If you have a procedure with ten parameters, you probably missed some.
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> 12. Recursion is the root of computation since it trades description for time. 
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> ....
19:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
19:20 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> tl;dr?
19:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> read them
19:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> its quotes
19:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> fun
19:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> man egui shots out major updates so often :lol:
19:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> almost as often as robster
19:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but just almost
19:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 😏
19:25 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @robyt3 how would you rate your current rust skill from 0-100?
19:26 < bridge> <robyt3> 0.1 maybe, I successfully installed and configured rust, and I wrote maybe 5 lines of tests for a console function once because it apparently exists in our rust code
19:27 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> perfect. anything >0 is scalable
19:27 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> end of year you must be rust expert
19:27 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
19:27 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i believe in you
19:31 < bridge> <milkeeycat> Rewriting ddnet ui in rust :justatest:
19:31 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> xdd
19:33 < bridge> <milkeeycat> Ill probably work with Rust on my job 😏
19:43 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> cheater
19:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i'd love to have a job that has nothing to do with databases.
19:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
19:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i envy ryo so much 😂
19:47 < bridge> <milkeeycat> My first project will be just to play around with wasm and tell em if it's a good shit
19:47 < bridge> <milkeeycat> :greenthing:
19:47 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> spoiler: it's good
19:47 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
19:47 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> if you need plugin system
19:48 < bridge> <milkeeycat> I saw someone was making a game with wasm
19:48 < bridge> <milkeeycat> And it had a lot less fps 😬
19:48 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 😏
19:48 < bridge> <milkeeycat> And it had much less fps 😬
19:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it runs at pretty good speed indeed
19:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
19:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> only problem is sharing memory, that's not very cheap
19:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> between host & guest i mean
19:53 < bridge> <Bota> Ayyo, I have a problem that i keep timing out and idk the reason why. I timeout quicker / more on populated servers
19:53 < bridge> <Bota> I need help
19:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> restart router
19:53 < bridge> <Bota> funny
19:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> set cl_port in f1
19:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> was serious
19:54 < bridge> <Bota> i have the issue since 2 months
19:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> and have u restarted router in 2months?=
19:54 < bridge> <Bota> yes
19:54 < bridge> <Bota> it was even turned off for 2 weeks
19:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> call ISP
19:54 < bridge> <Bota> i dud
19:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> if it's on all servers especially
19:55 < bridge> <Bota> they dont block anything they told me
19:55 < bridge> <Bota> i mean yes
19:55 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> not blocking but apparently selling you shit :lol:
19:55 < bridge> <Bota> what cl_port shall i set?
19:55 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> u can try 13000
19:55 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
19:55 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> then restart
19:55 < bridge> <milkeeycat> 42069
19:56 < bridge> <Bota> that does not tell me a lot
19:56 < bridge> <Bota> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1230215228244099132/image.png?ex=66328236&is=66200d36&hm=dd6f24a265edf1a0cc160b7b63dc668390b59ab665ada3551631752a9e3b44e2&
19:56 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but if u have it since 2 months.. i assume it wont help
19:56 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it forces the client on a specific port
19:56 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> which SOMETIMES helps
19:56 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> esp for ppl that use dummy too
19:56 < bridge> <Bota> ill chill a bit on an another server to confirm i time out there aswell
19:56 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> alright
19:57 < bridge> <Bota> but ger10 multeasy i timeout quick
19:57 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> mh on ger10 it _might_ also be the filter
19:57 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but better confirm on other servers first
19:59 < bridge> <Bota> nope i still timed out
19:59 < bridge> <Bota> i tried RUS
20:21 < bridge> <Bota> i didnt time out for 20 mins, it looks good
20:23 < bridge> <Bota> and i timed out 😦
20:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1230229310535635046/GLYmSrfXMAAv4Vk.jpg?ex=66328f54&is=66201a54&hm=5696d68030836bd41529449c091edaaf3de40496584949a8e9152ea5502dd8a4&
20:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> true programmer
20:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> wizard
21:06 < bridge> <Bota> @jupeyy_keks and other suggestions?
21:07 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> do you use latest client?
21:08 < bridge> <Bota> i have steam
21:08 < bridge> <meloƞ> these dudes explain shit the best fr
21:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> have u tried a different lan cable?
21:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> maybe other port in router
21:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> maybe a shorter cable
21:09 < bridge> <Bota> i have powerline
21:09 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> if you have multiple computers in your house, try if u also time out there
21:09 < bridge> <Bota> but tw only game with problems
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> mh ok. well dunno if anything helps here tbh
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i'd say it's the routing between you and the servers
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but why it results in timeout is unclear to me
21:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> that kinda sounds like the port gets closed after a while for an unknown reason
21:12 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> testing on a different computer would eliminate all problems that are caused by potential malfunctional software
21:12 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> then you could concentrate on hardware
21:27 < bridge> <Ewan> yikes ☹️
21:27 < bridge> <Ewan> his problem is probably the powerline adapter
21:28 < bridge> <Ewan> they have a substantially higher baseline latency than most wifi
21:28 < bridge> <Ewan> and it’ll fluctuate a lot
21:29 < bridge> <Ewan> especially if the gateway end adapter is not on the same circuit as the computer end adapter
21:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> mh yeah
21:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> better try lan cable directly in router
21:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i dont trust any other tech xd
21:30 < bridge> <Ewan> yea
21:30 < bridge> <Ewan> i exposed pre-drilled holes from tenants past to run my Ethernet
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ```rust
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat> foo!(
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     "foo",
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     "{x}",
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     "bar",
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     "{y}"
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     "baz",
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     x = 69
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat>     y = 72
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat> );
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ```
22:09 < bridge> <milkeeycat> is it possible in theory to write such a macro in rust? :justatest:
22:10 < bridge> <milkeeycat> and it will return a formatted & concatenated string
22:16 < bridge> <teero777> is he programming in a parking lot? xDD
22:27 < bridge> <Ewan> i would be surprised if it isn’t
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```rust
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> macro_rules! foo {
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ>     ($x:expr, $y:expr) => {
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ>         println!("x: {}, y: {}", $x, $y);
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ>     };
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> fn main() {
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ>     foo!(69, 72);
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> output:
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:43 < bridge> <meloƞ> x: 69, y: 72
22:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> is that what you wanna do?
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```rust
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> macro_rules! foo {
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>     ($x:expr, $y:expr) => {
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>         println!("x: {}, y: {}", $x, $y);
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>     };
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> fn main() {
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>     foo!(69, 72);
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> output:
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> x: 69, y: 72
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> or do you want smth like:
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```rust
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> fn main() {
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>     let result = format!(
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>         "{foo} {x} {bar} {y} {baz}",
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>         foo = "foo",
22:47 < bridge> <meloƞ>         x = 69,
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ>         bar = "bar",
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ>         y = 72,
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ>         baz = "baz"
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ>     );
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ>     
22:48 < bridge> <meloƞ> hey you never talk bad about a man's crib!
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```rust
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ> macro_rules! foo {
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ>     ($x:expr, $y:expr) => {
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ>         println!("foo: {}, bar: {}", $x, $y);
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ>     };
22:50 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> fn main() {
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>     foo!(69, 72);
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> }
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> output:
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> foo: 69, bar: 72
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> or do you want smth like:
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> ```rust
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> fn main() {
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>     let result = format!(
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         "{foo} {x} {bar} {y} {baz}",
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         foo = "foo",
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         x = 69,
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         bar = "bar",
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         y = 72,
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>         baz = "baz"
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>     );
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
22:51 < bridge> <meloƞ>     
23:48 < bridge> <Ewan> i think he is looking for a variadic approach
23:48 < bridge> <Ewan> btw i think this would be very easy with a proc macro
23:48 < bridge> <Ewan> because you can just build the format string directly
23:52 < bridge> <meloƞ> ah, just have it iterate over to build the string?
23:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://github.com/WINSDK/bite
23:55 < bridge> <meloƞ> no LLDB frontend - booooooh