21:52 < bridge> <imilchshake> 2024-04-08 21:47:26 I econ: couldn't open socket. port might already be in use
21:52 < bridge> <imilchshake> ```
21:52 < bridge> <imilchshake> 
21:52 < bridge> <imilchshake> Any ideas? Could i be missing dependencies?
22:10 < bridge> <cyberFighter> can u give all of them ai and force them to play ctf 200v200
22:15 < bridge> <teero777> dunno it fails on one of them. i can't be a hoster issue right? normal server works?
22:15 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1226988875461951488/image.png?ex=6626c570&is=66145070&hm=7a7240214f9a59a3fd7cdda659cb10ea44f99dc02f0466a905affde822c0695c&
22:15 < bridge> <teero777> it fails on one of them. i can't be a hoster issue right? normal server works?
22:15 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1226988875461951488/image.png?ex=6626c570&is=66145070&hm=7a7240214f9a59a3fd7cdda659cb10ea44f99dc02f0466a905affde822c0695c&
22:16 < bridge> <teero777> it fails on one of them. it can't be a hoster issue right? normal server works?
22:16 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1226988875461951488/image.png?ex=6626c570&is=66145070&hm=7a7240214f9a59a3fd7cdda659cb10ea44f99dc02f0466a905affde822c0695c&
22:20 < bridge> <imilchshake> ah sorry forgot to mention: yes, the gameserver itself runs as it should
22:21 < bridge> <imilchshake> are these dependencies just required for development? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet?tab=readme-ov-file#dependencies-on-linux--macos
22:23 < bridge> <teero777> yea
22:25 < bridge> <teero777> you can try but that shouldn't be the issue i think
23:04 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @teero777 XDDDDDDDDD
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1227001251955474562/image.png?ex=6626d0f7&is=66145bf7&hm=64dba90ddea80a371f99cf69a0a30f8167e18004c8b64f4e91ef93cc7e524518&
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> optimized it to O(1)
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it can now handle 1k tees
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1227001361099391128/image.png?ex=6626d111&is=66145c11&hm=dab1d01d3c9b3fe9d67fda6b1cfb7fba38413eb3aa4d7fbb6dc1f62c22337323&
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> that's so funny lmao
23:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i think it works even without breaking physics
23:06 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @zwelf2 we should test that with your physics 😄
23:20 < bridge> <teero777> playing 2000p splitscreen
23:20 < bridge> <teero777> im in
23:20 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> modern pc are really fast
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i mean it iterates over so much shit ~2000 times every frame
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it checks if the input changed for all these tees
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> bcs they are real players xd
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> creates the render calls for all
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> bcs i have no frustum culling yet
23:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> prediction code every frame
23:29 < bridge> <Ewan> how are u doing this
23:29 < bridge> <Ewan> looks awesome
23:34 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> custom client + server
23:34 < bridge> <Ewan> Send
23:36 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> soon™️ xdd
23:36 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> it's sadly still far from finished :/
23:38 < bridge> <Ewan> so what
23:38 < bridge> <Ewan> unless it deletes my entire disk idgaf
23:38 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> yeah it's virus
23:38 < bridge> <Ewan> sad
23:38 < bridge> <Ewan> average custom client moment
23:48 < bridge> <meloƞ> @jupeyy_keks make Sure to Tag me when you Release a pre-release :kek:
00:08 < jtbx> hi all, I'm trying to run the ddnet client but it's failing with "unable to create window: Installed Vulkan doesn't implement the VK_KHR_surface extension". apparently this means vulkan drivers can't be found, I'll look into this later but for now is there a way to disable vulkan at runtime?
00:08 < jtbx> is there some sort of environment variable or command line argument I can use?
00:13 < bridge> <meloƞ> cmake .. -DVULKAN=OFF
00:13 < bridge> <meloƞ> `cmake .. -DVULKAN=OFF`
00:14 < jtbx> yeah I'm doing that now thanks
00:15 < bridge> <learath2> You don’t need to compile it out. You can switch to opengl at runtime too. Just do `./DDNet “gfx_backend opengl”`
06:52  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:52  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:52  * Moein slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:53  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:53  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:53  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:53  * Kourosh_ slaps ChillerDragon around a bit with a large fishbot
06:53 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> i don't think there are any servers anymore
06:53 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> when did u start playing tw @milkeeycat ?
06:53 < Kourosh_> ChillerDragon: You are definitely an idiot
06:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> First Finish
06:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> 08.09.2020
06:54 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> eww ddracer
06:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> Me new
06:54 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> yea likely u never had the chance to play basketball
06:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> I wish i found ddnet earlier
06:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> It had some cool ass vibe before
06:55 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> don't forget the time before ddnet hehe
06:55 < bridge> <milkeeycat> (saw it from aoe vids)
06:55 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> i used some goofy ddrace client (not ddnet) on my old macbook :D 
06:55 < bridge> <milkeeycat> Average chillerdragon moment
06:56 < Moein> anyone there
06:56 < Moein> ?
06:56 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> hi
06:56 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> we are still waiting for your response
06:56 < Moein> from where can I obtain fng scores at the end of each round?
06:56 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> from ewans question
06:56 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> which code base are you currently working in
06:57 < Moein> nothing yet, we want to chose
06:57 < Moein> please guide us
06:57 < Moein> :')
06:57 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> i think jopstis fng is best
06:57 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> but not too sure
06:58 < Moein> where is the repo?
06:58 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> you want 0.6 or 0.7 or both?
06:58 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod
06:58 < Moein> and do you know my question's answer?
06:58 < bridge> <milkeeycat> When 1.0
06:58 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> depends on the code base
07:00 < Moein> Suppose that this is our code base https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod
07:01 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamecontroller.cpp#L207-L215
07:01 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> for example here
07:01 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> or here
07:01 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamemodes/fng2.cpp#L329-L333
07:02 < bridge> <Ewan> thanks chiller
07:02 < bridge> <Ewan> i forgot and then played some gores
07:03 < Moein> thank you
07:03 < Moein> ChillerDragon
07:03 < Moein> Mighty God Bless You
07:03 < Moein> dude
08:47 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> omg pyson is the worst
08:47 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> it took me 5mins to add multi processing to the bash script and i spent hours on porting the same code to python
08:48 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> its literally one character in bash to go blazingly fast on all cpu cores
08:49 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> at least i managed to max out all cpu cores now... but its probably spent in pyson land trying to compute for loops :D also wtf my progress counter is so drunk
08:49 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1712645224.png
08:49 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 pain
08:49 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> i am pretty sure the shell script would have been faster, easier to maintain, more portable and duh it was already finished and working
09:24 < bridge> <teero777> what are you doing?
09:25 < bridge> <teero777> btw can I have a chillertube acc?
09:32 < bridge> <TsFreddie> will the world ever know who jia tan is
09:49 < bridge> <meloƞ> I think He is trying to fix #8151 #8154 and #8141
09:49 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8151
09:49 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8154
09:49 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8141
12:14 < bridge> <teero777> True. I'm gonna quit school now
12:14 < bridge> <learath2> Allah willing they are now content with the naming and style and we won't get any more of these massive commits that add nothing but merge conflicts
12:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
12:15 < bridge> <learath2> Imagine introducing merge conflicts just to make code uglier "GpuId"
12:15 < bridge> <learath2> smh
12:16 < bridge> <teero777> #6775 got completely borked by recent commits of chiller
12:16 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6775
12:17 < bridge> <teero777> Yea it looks ugly asf but ig it's theoretically correct but who cares xd
12:19 < bridge> <TsFreddie> going home
12:19 < bridge> <learath2> You may think I'm insane but IMO coding isn't just theory, I feel it has a smidge of art within and these rigid things are ruining that aspect for me
12:19 < bridge> <learath2> Sure functionality above all but there is just something about beautiful code that hits the spot for me
12:20 < bridge> <TsFreddie> you are always insane
12:21 < bridge> <learath2> It's like telling dali his proportions are off
12:25 < bridge> <teero777> Sometimes optimised code looks so beautiful I get tears in my eyes
12:25 < bridge> <teero777> I'm serious
12:26 < bridge> <learath2> I like the way you think
12:26 < bridge> <teero777> I like it tightly packed :D
12:27 < bridge> <teero777> Always one cr after closing brackets
12:28 < bridge> <milkeeycat> beauty
12:28 < bridge> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1227203438102974484/GKuUhmgWRQtAKejL7_neYNRnu-Rpj-XBcp6Lc2nzZEk.png?ex=66278d43&is=66151843&hm=e0badda85c2a8c035e1b7e2bbe6caee5332f9c872b8370b74c340f1077c799e9&
12:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> it is art
12:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> rust is art
12:28 < bridge> <learath2> See, this brings so much displeasure, if a formatting tool told me this is the best way, I would just not use the formatting tool
12:29 < bridge> <teero777> Please always do if(!c) return;
12:29 < bridge> <learath2> Just opening this file would ruin my morning
12:29 < bridge> <teero777> Sometimes clang format does shit
12:29 < bridge> <learath2> Exactly, the guard pattern is the best, no matter what CS purists say about multiple exit points from functions being bad
12:31 < bridge> <teero777> Like sometimes when I have a lot of vars for the same topic and they have default values Indent the = signs for better readability
12:32 < bridge> <teero777> Like sometimes when I have a lot of vars for the same topic and they have default values I Indent the = signs for better readability
12:32 < bridge> <teero777> What do you think about multilevel inline if statements?
12:33 < bridge> <teero777> Very dirty imo
12:34 < bridge> <learath2> multilevel inline if? like the condition spanning multiple lines?
12:35 < bridge> <teero777> I mean smth like `int a = b >= 63 ? 0 : (c <= 0 ? 31 : 0)`
12:36 < bridge> <learath2> Ah, ternaries. I don't like it if there is more than 2 and there aren't parens
12:36 < bridge> <quet999> And where is the logic of attaching a hook in scripts?
12:37 < bridge> <teero777> what?
12:37 < bridge> <milkeeycat> he asked where is the logic of attaching a hook in scripts?
12:38 < bridge> <teero777> I think he's lost
12:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> :headbot:
12:39 < bridge> <teero777> Imo with long variable names it can get really ugly, especially when having big formulas
12:39 < bridge> <quet999> I mean where is the code associated with the hook
12:39 < bridge> <quet999> I'm lost.
12:39 < bridge> <teero777> Ah that's what you mean
12:39 < bridge> <learath2> gamecore.cpp is where most of it is at
12:40 < bridge> <teero777> Check in gamecore.cpp
12:40 < bridge> <quet999> TILE_TELEINHOOK What is TELE?
12:41 < bridge> <teero777> There are teleporter tiles that teleport the hook to a different position upon hooking them
12:42 < bridge> <teero777> They are orange
12:49 < bridge> <quet999> thx
12:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> edlang now uses llvm 18
14:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/vdso.7.html
14:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2
14:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://thecoder08.github.io/hello-world.html
15:38 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> @teero777 @learath2 ye that pr was from heinrich but all merge conflicts should be solvable with one command. I did not run into any issues I had to fix manually while merging forks and prs.
16:14 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1227260433166110750/5XGewbBi8uo.jpg?ex=6627c258&is=66154d58&hm=4249447e1c9b5b9ae770b418288cd51ab4756e94415489207c161ddbc4e7a8d6&
16:52 < melon> test test 1 2 3
16:59 < bridge> <Tyrone> 321?
17:07 < melon> test completed - thank you.
17:24 < bridge> <learath2> I knew this thing existed but never really read into the details. I've added it to my archive of knowledge
17:26 < bridge> <peter0x44> Fuck analog clocks all my homies hate analog clocks
17:26 < bridge> <peter0x44> Who actually finds it easier to read the time from that vs 4 numbers
17:27 < bridge> <cyberFighter> they are cool
17:27 < bridge> <cyberFighter> cry me a river bitch
17:27 < bridge> <cyberFighter> ok no insults oops
17:27 < bridge> <learath2> Be glad heinrich is away
17:28 < bridge> <peter0x44> Looking at the hour and then doing the mental calculation 5*minute hand position + 0-4 is annoying
17:28 < bridge> <peter0x44> I don't want to do math to read it
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> ye
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>       Making system calls can be slow.  In x86 32-bit systems, you can
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        trigger a software interrupt (int $0x80) to tell the kernel you
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        wish to make a system call.  However, this instruction is
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        expensive: it goes through the full interrupt-handling paths in
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        the processor's microcode as well as in the kernel.  Newer
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        processors have faster (but backward incompatible) instructions
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        to initiate system calls.  Rather than require the C library to
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        figure out if this functionality is available at run time, the C
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        library can use functions provided by the kernel in the vDSO.
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        Note that the terminology can be confusing.  On x86 systems, the
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        vDSO function used to determine the preferred method of making a
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        system call is named "__kernel_vsyscall", but on x86-64, the term
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        "vsyscall" also refers to an obsolete way to ask the kernel what
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        time it is or what CPU the caller is on.
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> 
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        One frequently used system call is gettimeofday(2).  This system
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        call is called both directly by user-space applications as well
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        as indirectly by the C library.  Think timestamps or timing loops
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        or polling—all of these frequently need to know what time it is
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        right now.  This information is also not secret—any application
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        in any privilege mode (root or any unprivileged user) will get
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        the same answer.  Thus the kernel arranges for the information
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        required to answer this question to be placed in memory the
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        process can access.  Now a call to gettimeofday(2) changes from a
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki>        system call to a normal function call and a few memory accesses.
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> interesting
17:29 < bridge> <learath2> You don't do the calculation while reading it. Just by looking at it you instantly know
17:29 < bridge> <peter0x44> I can't do that
17:30 < bridge> <learath2> You can, just need to do it more
17:30 < bridge> <cyberFighter> also i like the ticking sound
17:30 < bridge> <peter0x44> It's not instant for me, reading numbers is
17:30 < bridge> <learath2> Start by memorizing the landmarks, 0 up top, 15 to the right, 30 to bottom, 45 to left
17:31 < bridge> <cyberFighter> minutes do kinda suck tho i agree
17:31 < bridge> <peter0x44> Fuck analog clocks all my homies hate analog clocks
17:31 < bridge> <peter0x44> Who actually finds it easier to read the time from that vs 4 digits
17:31 < bridge> <learath2> Then it's just a matter of how far to the left or right of the landmarks the minute hand is
17:31 < bridge> <peter0x44> Already more effort than reading two numbers
17:31 < bridge> <learath2> Ofc it is, there is a reason we made digital clocks
17:31 < bridge> <learath2> With that attitude yeah, I can see you never being able to do it
17:33 < bridge> <peter0x44> I can do it
17:33 < bridge> <peter0x44> I just don't want to
17:33 < bridge> <peter0x44> Anyway probably not a relevant debate here lol
17:33 < bridge> <learath2> You obviously can't, as if you could then you wouldn't need to do any math
17:33 < bridge> <devinci24> analog is cooler.
17:33 < bridge> <devinci24> Otherwise we wouldn't have overpriced analog watches :greenthing:
17:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> i doubt ppl buy 50k watches to know the time
17:36 < bridge> <learath2> expensive watches are more status symbols than anything
17:46 < bridge> <kdaniel> who is the network pro in ddnet source?
17:54 < bridge> <robyt3> https://dontasktoask.com/
18:07 < bridge> <kdaniel> there is no question.. its more like a poll 😄
18:08 < bridge> <kdaniel> but little ghost voices have told me that you should be reached for network topics
18:40 < bridge> <learath2> Heinrich is probably the most familiar with the network code as he has been working on a rewrite of it for a while
21:26 < bridge> <simon_1603> https://youtu.be/r3bEjsv9JFw?si=5GS-BOiGheIyjv7q
21:26 < bridge> <simon_1603> https://youtu.be/r3bEjsv9JFw?si=5GS-BOiGheIyjv7q
21:29 < bridge> <learath2> Send it a couple more times
21:37 < bridge> <simon_1603> https://youtu.be/r3bEjsv9JFw?si=5GS-BOiGheIyjv7q
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> oi
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1227345684336873482/image.png?ex=662811be&is=66159cbe&hm=5b8fb0ee0aa7525cea4b624b64a27340677289c1fe7bbda437d0f3ec2bcf2b6d&
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> rust devs to the rescue
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> is this my code's problem or... no?
21:55 < bridge> <mr.teetorial> Hey guys. I’m pretty new to that stuff so yeah 😅  Where in the code are player inputs handled ? Like fire jump movement
21:56 < bridge> <mr.teetorial> Is it controls.cpp?
22:08 < bridge> <milkeeycat> setting `ulimit` helps
23:23 < bridge> <cyberFighter> wtf
23:24 < bridge> <cyberFighter> u cant practice mode in tutorial
23:54 < bridge> <Ewan> maybe you are on the tutorial server?
23:54 < bridge> <Ewan> i think you can if you load the map on a normal novice server
23:54 < bridge> <Ewan> i think you can if you load the map on a normal server