00:02 < bridge> <murpi> Wouldn't it be possible to adjust how many tabs the client can display based of the currently set resolution?
00:08 < bridge> <murpi> or maybe pivot to a vertical setup, perhaps by introducing a dropdown menu
00:24 < bridge> <peter0x44> personally I pity the maintainer here
00:24 < bridge> <peter0x44> I'm sure the situation is not nice for them
00:26 < bridge> <peter0x44> how does it justify that?
00:33 < bridge> <peter0x44> isn't github the "real main git repo"? afaik it was just the published tarballs that had problems
00:56 < bridge> <louis> what about letting the tabs be scrollable
01:10 < bridge> <peter0x44> I have a 5:4 1280*1024 monitor
01:51 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/20344300/8b404a1b-7fe8-4cf5-9e06-a46174acbdbe
01:53 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> The alpha in ColorRGBA is not behaving as I expected it to behave. The marking has a lighter shade of red than the body. And as soon as the transparency goes below like 8ish it turns darker.
01:54 < ws-client> <ChillerDragon> Did i mess something up in RenderTee7 or is that just how the ddnet rendering behaves?
09:02 < bridge> <reitw> Apparently it wasn't before
10:58 < bridge> <robyt3> Seems like the most realistic solution that doesn't add a lot of effort for 5:4 resolutions. Initially I didn't want to add complicated logic to prevent more favorite communities from being added than can be shown in the menu, which would add a weird dependency on the screen size in the engine serverbrowser component.
11:21 < bridge> <robyt3> 5 favorite communities should be enough :justatest:
11:21 < bridge> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223577802494705776/screenshot_2024-03-30_11-18-21.png?ex=661a5ca1&is=6607e7a1&hm=d10329fcb5dcfea41988381183e51045c417f99957826f6b58a6e999002a28d5&
11:44 < bridge> <learath2> I don't like how errors in go work
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> welcome to the team
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> once u try rust there is no going back
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> 😬
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> i miss jupstar
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> remainder that we have  UB in json parsing https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8128
12:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2 do u know what -fno-common does?
12:04 < bridge> <learath2> iirc it prevents sharing of globals
12:31 < bridge> <meloƞ> `I'd generally prefer having Python scripts over bash scripts, Python runs on more operating systems and seems easier to maintain.` doesnt bash run on more operating systems? i mean it runs on almost all systems (windows, mac, linux) - without the need of an additional intepreter like python, even tho i highly agree that its easier to maintain
12:36 < bridge> <robyt3> > I'd generally prefer having Python scripts over bash scripts, Python runs on more operating systems and seems easier to maintain.
12:36 < bridge> <robyt3> I agree. Bash only works on all systems if all the individual programs you execute in your script work an all system. For Python you simply install the modules you need and it works on all systems. Python is also significantly faster than Bash.
12:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> that makes a lot more sense - thanks for the clarification :)
14:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> that applies to rust too
14:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
14:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> this backdoor is a big deal in the ecosystem
14:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> do u think its a state actor?
14:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> if it had passed shitload of things would be compromised
14:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> and it was only found cuz a good dev found something that shoult take nothint took 400ms
14:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://twitter.com/kdrag0n/status/1773950974480314574
14:43 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1773846947503411499
14:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://twitter.com/functi0nZer0/status/1774016037035376950
14:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://boehs.org/node/everything-i-know-about-the-xz-backdoor
15:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://bpfman.io/main/
15:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> @reitw
15:23 < bridge> <reitw> Yup I know about that one, I talked with one of the maintainers who works at redhat
15:23 < bridge> <reitw> That tool is amazing
15:34 < bridge> <teero777> yo what is GameTickTime? or rather how does it work?
15:37 < bridge> <milkeeycat> does client send or receive more data when entities are off?
15:40 < bridge> <robyt3> No, this should only affect rendering
15:41 < bridge> <milkeeycat> hm, why does my ping become turbo ass when i turn off entities 😦
15:44 < bridge> <teero777> cpu bottleneck?
15:45 < bridge> <robyt3> As far as I understand it, it's the time in seconds between the previous tick and the current tick, see https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/8412d2be6ea14c8d1b8ba3207e19ae2890c0ebce/src/engine/docs/client_time.txt
15:47 < bridge> <teero777> but it isnt always 0.02 s. i assume you mean the time from current time until the next tick?
15:47 < bridge> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223644842131718164/image.png?ex=661a9b10&is=66082610&hm=5cb374687df6eac12471fab9d430c07ab0af5f8c8239fb616e6e4b808919e5b6&
15:50 < bridge> <robyt3> It should be the time between previous tick and current tick according to the code and the docs, but the time of the current tick is determined by `CSmoothTime`
15:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> nice graphs :justatest:
15:54 < bridge> <milkeeycat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223646577441116291/image.png?ex=661a9cae&is=660827ae&hm=8e9c23188b870c9670163218a1dfeac5f285a6f26c8425d8dc067649f33c612e&
15:54 < bridge> <louis> how nice they wanted to give teetanic some space
15:58 < bridge> <erkanat1028> есть русские?
15:59 < bridge> <milkeeycat> today is my birthday btw :feelsbadman:
16:07 < bridge> <furo321> Happy birthday! 🥳
16:18 < bridge> <peter0x44> I find the whole story suspicious
16:19 < bridge> <peter0x44> keep in mind the guy reporting it is a microsoft employee and MS definitely has NSA ties
16:19 < bridge> <learath2> I wonder how many backdoors are in the billion lines of code that is systemd
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> ```cpp
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> const float TimeSinceLastTick = (float)std::chrono::duration_cast<std::chrono::milliseconds>(std::chrono::steady_clock::now() - LastTickTime).count();
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> float GameTickTime = TimeSinceLastTick / 1000.f;
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> ```
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> so something like this would be correct?
16:22 < bridge> <teero777> @robyt3
16:26 < bridge> <teero777> and the intra tick would then be smth like `TimeSinceLastTick / (1000.f / (float)SERVER_TICK_SPEED)`?
16:34 < bridge> <meloƞ> HAPPY BIRTHDAY MILKY
16:34 < bridge> <meloƞ> wait for AI to accept 500 billion tokens so we can ask it
16:35 < bridge> <robyt3> I don't know exactly how it works, but that looks too simple to be correct
16:35 < bridge> <teero777> xD
16:36 < bridge> <teero777> i just tried
16:36 < bridge> <teero777> it works :D
16:36 < bridge> <robyt3> Intra tick should be a float between 0 and 1 that specifies how far between the previous and the current tick you are
16:37 < bridge> <teero777> yes thats exactly what that doies
16:37 < bridge> <teero777> yes thats exactly what that dois
16:37 < bridge> <teero777> yes thats exactly what that does
16:38 < bridge> <teero777> TimeSinceLastTick is in a range of 0..0.02.
16:38 < bridge> <teero777> divinding that by 0.02 gives a range of 0..1
16:38 < bridge> <teero777> :D
16:38 < bridge> <robyt3> Looks like you are ignoring whatever `CSmoothTime` does then
16:39 < bridge> <teero777> i have no idea what CSmoothTime even is
16:39 < bridge> <teero777> i have no idea what `CSmoothTime` even is
16:40 < bridge> <TsFreddie> prediction need a steady timing where the client runs a fixed amount of ticks ahead of the server
16:40 < bridge> <TsFreddie> in practice it is impossible
16:41 < bridge> <TsFreddie> CSmoothTime tracks the timing sent by the server and make sure the pacing is roughly the same regardless of jitter and adjust for latency
16:41 < bridge> <meloƞ> from what i can read out of smooth_time.h - it takes a target time val and returns a smoothed time by adjusting it:
16:41 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
16:41 < bridge> <meloƞ> `void SetAdjustSpeed(EAdjustDirection Direction, float Value);`
16:42 < bridge> <TsFreddie> So basically the client is actually constantly speeding up and slowing down just to make sure it stays ahead of the server and not by too much
16:43 < bridge> <teero777> ddnet is over engineered...
16:43 < bridge> <TsFreddie> no, that's how client-side prediction has always worked
16:44 < bridge> <TsFreddie> also that was teeworlds' code
16:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> ddnet is based off of teeworlds, teeworlds was supposed to be a game engine before actually becoming a game afair
16:44 < bridge> <TsFreddie> rocket league, counter strike, etc. any sensible game is done this way. teeworlds has physics no less so it really need it
16:45 < bridge> <meloƞ> espacially since teeworlds is a lot more sensible than any other game i know
16:46 < bridge> <TsFreddie> i mean.. basically anytime you need server authoring client side movement, you need client-side prediction
16:47 < bridge> <TsFreddie> it is good for making sure only the server has the ground truth of a state of any given moment
16:48 < bridge> <TsFreddie> ~~or you can just give up and introduce input latency like old style fighting games~~
16:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> the pr was done by a chinese looking name
16:49 < bridge> <ryozuki> the backdoor
16:49 < bridge> <4ipset> how to hide commands in cmdlist if you dont have enough permission to see them
16:49 < bridge> <TsFreddie> hi. i'm chinese
16:49 < bridge> <ryozuki> hi im catalan
16:50 < bridge> <teero777> 🇩🇪
16:50 < bridge> <TsFreddie> thought you would be my dad. i guess i'm mistaken
16:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> not today
16:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> ur dad went to get a cigar and never returned
16:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> <a:sadSnail:785072987815804929>
16:51 < bridge> <teero777> no way. did you find any?
16:51 < bridge> <Alexander> dads?
16:51 < bridge> <TsFreddie> exactly
16:53 < bridge> <ryozuki> no but i found rust
16:53 < bridge> <teero777> now that explains the long waiting time
16:54 < bridge> <teero777> @tsfreddie do not fret. once the rust code has compiled he will come back
16:54 < bridge> <TsFreddie> oh i've compiled many rust code
16:54 < bridge> <meloƞ> i heard rust?!?!?!
16:54 < bridge> <TsFreddie> hi crabs
16:54 < bridge> <meloƞ> <a:pepepopcorn:1198206036625063986>
16:55 < bridge> <reitw> :giga_chad:
16:56 < bridge> <learath2> wild idea to target sshd through a patch that debian has for adding support for systemd in sshd
17:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223663101753426020/image.png?ex=661aac12&is=66083712&hm=0549c1633bd2baba9a733c919b14c2c6c5dc84aa3489196923e2a925ff067ba8&
17:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> aah forgot i'd break a rule by posting it, god damn it.
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> what rule
17:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> dont insult/trashtalk other's
17:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> well, does it count for people who arent here anymore?
17:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> meh i rather not greyzone it
17:01 < bridge> <TsFreddie> cute
17:02 < bridge> <meloƞ> ikr! - dont wanna get heinrich's hammer in my face (yet)
17:02 < bridge> <teero777> i thought you were in to that kind of stuff
17:02 < bridge> <meloƞ> :justatest:
17:02 < bridge> <meloƞ> :justatest: stop leak
17:02 < bridge> <teero777> mb
17:06 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/1774092131822444682
17:57 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223677368858579035/image.png?ex=661ab95b&is=6608445b&hm=70aa33f60017e680e176162c03213ac58282c71e4688c4205bf75a8dc9292bbf&
18:02 < bridge> <cipy29> i don't know what most of the configs do, but still nice that they're there
19:00 < bridge> <milkeeycat> now everything works fine
19:14 < bridge> <teero777> is there a way to unbind enter to open chat
19:14 < bridge> <teero777> ?
19:14 < bridge> <teero777> is there a way to unbind enter to open chat?
19:14 < bridge> <teero777> i dont like it opening chat
19:15 < Hi_guus> Hi guys 👋 
19:15 < bridge> <teero777> yo
19:15 < bridge> <TsFreddie> <a:amogus:876956004674338848>
19:15 < Hi_guus> Aaaa amogus 
19:16 < bridge> <robyt3> `unbind return`
19:18 < bridge> <teero777> ah lol i searched for enter and carriage return but since only kp_enter came up i thought it was impossible xd
19:18 < bridge> <teero777> thx
19:18 < bridge> <mazty> XD
19:18 < bridge> <mazty> kp_enter
19:19 < bridge> <TsFreddie> return2 for the win
19:20 < bridge> <robyt3> Are there any mechanical keyboards with `&&` and `||` keys? :justatest:
19:20 < bridge> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223698479428276304/image.png?ex=661acd04&is=66085804&hm=2329e5bec553b67e45601d165891e98ecc8ba3c83a313a440c4cc15e412121a3&
19:21 < bridge> <teero777> wot
19:26 < bridge> <TsFreddie> sdl's keypad is built different
19:29 < bridge> <TsFreddie> but by the look of the scancode they probably included some keys from some system that acts as logical keys in the calculator (probably windows?). There is a SDL_SCANCODE_KP_XOR but I can't find SDL_SCANCODE_KP_OR or SDL_SCANCODE_KP_AND which might just be those two?
19:30 < bridge> <TsFreddie> or there is an actual calculator port of SDL
19:31 < bridge> <TsFreddie> :justatest:
19:31 < bridge> <Ewan> hi fredd
19:31 < bridge> <TsFreddie> hi ewan
19:31 < bridge> <TsFreddie> sleep time, bye ewan
19:32 < bridge> <Ewan> Gn
19:41 < bridge> <simo_dz_21> **Hot Teen & Onlyfans Leaks 🔞 🍑** https://discord.gg/nnudes @everyone
20:03 < hey_pidoraso> hey guuuys
20:04 < hey_pidoraso> ебать тут чиллердрагон
20:04 < hey_pidoraso> прикол
20:04 < hey_pidoraso> ☺
20:05 < bridge> <rmnik> hey guuy
20:06 < bridge> <rmnik> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223709891097530469/BROWHATTHEFUCK.png?ex=661ad7a5&is=660862a5&hm=b2086ca1d1a723568800ca65e2b69acb9c1827089750b1bd9649e8620df21f29&
20:11 < bridge> <milkeeycat> chillerdragon fan spotted
20:11 < bridge> <milkeeycat> chillerdragon: can you sign my tee please?
20:18 < bridge> <_schizophrene> can someone change my name to AmineGon please ?
20:35 < bridge> <teero777> is there really no way to do smth like `bind shift+space "say space"` and simultaneously `bind space +jump` ?
20:35 < bridge> <teero777> D:
21:02 < bridge> <headshotnoby> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223724039856590979/image.png?ex=661ae4d2&is=66086fd2&hm=5bf05fd5e1dc3ba047b16402e797606c6bfb094c01699de419296e0bea36e639&
21:45 < bridge> <teero777> tf
21:45 < bridge> <teero777> did you port ddnet to nintendo DS? xDD
21:45 < bridge> <teero777> nice
21:47 < bridge> <headshotnoby> in the process of porting it
21:47 < bridge> <teero777> the client or server?
21:47 < bridge> <headshotnoby> client
21:47 < bridge> <headshotnoby> it doesn't run on DS mode probably due to lack of RAM, so i set the emulator to DSi mode
21:47 < bridge> <teero777> does the nintendo ds have a way of accessing the internet?
21:47 < bridge> <headshotnoby> yes
21:47 < bridge> <teero777> oh nice didnt know that :D
21:47 < bridge> <headshotnoby> no WPA though, you either use no password or WEP
22:14 < bridge> <headshotnoby> got some rendering going
22:14 < bridge> <headshotnoby> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223742216732672122/image.png?ex=661af5c0&is=660880c0&hm=a9f92c1ee0d055f21204aa0f244fe916f6b4dcca4d69a57d1a8aa7fae76a0e73&
22:14 < bridge> <headshotnoby> got some rendering going on in the language selection
22:14 < bridge> <headshotnoby> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1223742216732672122/image.png?ex=661af5c0&is=660880c0&hm=a9f92c1ee0d055f21204aa0f244fe916f6b4dcca4d69a57d1a8aa7fae76a0e73&
22:19 < bridge> <teero777> xDDD
22:19 < bridge> <teero777> looks beautiful
22:21 < bridge> <teero777> what kind of rendering libraries are available for the DS?
22:22 < bridge> <teero777> or rather how do you even interact with the screen?
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> the DS has 2D and 3D hardware
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> the console on the top screen makes use of the 2D hardware, while the game is on the bottom screen
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> the DS has 2D and 3D hardware
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> the console on the top screen makes use of the 2D hardware, while the 3D rendering is on the bottom screen
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> only the main screen can render 3D
22:23 < bridge> <teero777> i mean you cant use sdl right?
22:23 < bridge> <headshotnoby> only the main screen can render 3D, in this case the bottom screen
22:24 < bridge> <teero777> i mean you cant use sdl2 for rendering right?
22:24 < bridge> <teero777> and smth like opengl/vulkan wont work either?
22:24 < bridge> <teero777> and smth like opengl/vulkan wont work either right?
22:25 < bridge> <headshotnoby> SDL2 port of nds does not exist, only 1.2, and even that is too slow for what i want to do
22:25 < bridge> <headshotnoby> vulkan on a console from 2004 :lol:
22:25 < bridge> <headshotnoby> opengl however, yes and no
22:26 < bridge> <headshotnoby> libnds (the NDS homebrew library i use) offers an opengl-like syntax for interacting with the 3D hardware
22:26 < bridge> <teero777> ah okay thats what i wanted to know
22:27 < bridge> <headshotnoby> libnds can also read touch screen and button inputs
22:27 < bridge> <teero777> is it official from nintendo?
22:28 < bridge> <headshotnoby> :justatest:
22:28 < bridge> <headshotnoby> homebrew library
22:28 < bridge> <teero777> ah lol
22:28 < bridge> <teero777> i was confused with the package manager
22:29 < bridge> <teero777> the mac thing
22:29 < bridge> <headshotnoby> macports
22:29 < bridge> <headshotnoby> :troll:
22:30 < bridge> <teero777> so will the DS run your super mario 64 port? :brownbear:
22:30 < bridge> <headshotnoby> funnily enough someone ported the whole SM64 game to the DSi
22:30 < bridge> <headshotnoby> keyword, **DSi**, not regular DS
22:30 < bridge> <teero777> sm64 has been ported to all possible machines xD
22:30 < bridge> <teero777> i bet you can find a port for your smart fridge
22:31 < bridge> <teero777> similarly to doom but less mainstream