00:19 < bridge> @miguilim: maybe worth to mention next to your snap crc pseudocode is that C++ has integer overflows. So it’s just adding values to some integer if the snap is too big that might overflow. If you take the same code to other languages it might not overflow in the same way. But I’m not super sure here. It’s just something someone mentioned in the \#developer channel once iirc. I do not know if snaps can even be big enough for that. Maybe 00:21 < bridge> lol, again some people still don't use common time & date libraries ? 00:21 < bridge> ? 00:23 < bridge> Epic meme. I would love to know how he scrapes everything without even a phone number. Many websites require phone numbers just for accessing their content. 00:26 < bridge> This is a solved problem. Jxsl built a Econ vpn banner in go. And I did build one in python. Just search ddnet econ or teeworlds Econ on GitHub. 00:27 < bridge> What’s wrong with Econ? It’s the most portable and works across hosts. FIFO only works for ddnet and if you are on the same server. 00:35 < bridge> chillerdragon: u online on wire ? 00:50 < bridge> problem with econ is that the output is interleaved, so spotting the output to your commands is rather annoying 01:19 < bridge> Yes that’s true. So what do you suggest? FIFO doesn’t solve it does it? 01:19 < bridge> Later maybe I gtg now 01:26 < bridge> Yes you 01:27 < bridge> Yes you're correct. C++ crc int is int32, when it reaches 0x7FFFFFFF it will change the number to negative. This "issue" can easily be achieved by packing the client info snap 01:27 < bridge> I will add a comment there 01:31 < bridge> Thanks for the hint 01:43 < bridge> what about an actual rcon-cli ? i can see this beeing a thing for 0.7 aswell 01:45 < bridge> Actually, it's straight UB and that isn't assured (without asking the compiler to, like with -fwrapv) 01:45 < bridge> Better to cast the numbers to unsigned and do the calculation like that if it matters 01:45 < bridge> Or use something like __builtin_*_overflow 01:45 < bridge> Actually, it's straight UB and that isn't assured (without asking the compiler to, like with -fwrapv) 01:45 < bridge> Better to cast the numbers to unsigned and do the calculation like that if it matters, then cast back 01:45 < bridge> Or use something like __builtin_*_overflow 01:45 < bridge> Actually, it's straight UB and that isn't assured (without asking the compiler to, like with -fwrapv) 01:45 < bridge> Better to cast the numbers to unsigned and do the calculation like that if it matters, then cast back 01:45 < bridge> Or use something like _\_builtin_\*_overflow 01:45 < bridge> Actually, it's straight UB and that isn't assured (without asking the compiler to, like with -fwrapv) 01:45 < bridge> Better to cast the numbers to unsigned and do the calculation like that if it matters, then cast back 01:45 < bridge> Or use something like \_\_builtin_\*\_overflow 01:46 < bridge> Nope, however the new interface I'm trying to build does solve it if I ever figure it out :CelebratoryToast_fae: 01:46 < bridge> Nope, however the new interface I'm trying to build does solve it if I ever figure it out 01:51 < bridge> Actually, it's straight UB and that isn't assured (without asking the compiler to, like with -fwrapv) 01:51 < bridge> Better to cast the numbers to unsigned and do the calculation like that if it matters, then cast back 01:51 < bridge> Or use something like \_\_builtin_\*\_overflow 01:51 < bridge> Unless I don't understand because 7FFFFFFF is INT_MAX 08:17 < bridge> Nice 08:19 < bridge> But that doesn’t exist. He was asking for the most portable way which does not require reimplementing it for every server. That is Econ and not fifo. And it’s also not rolling your own. 09:23 < bridge> econ output differs from version to version, and it requires reimplementing for each kind 11:16 < bridge> im tired 11:17 < bridge> hi tired, im chillerdragon 11:53 < bridge> Today on ffr 11:54 < bridge> I read this 11:54 < bridge> https://graydon2.dreamwidth.org/307291.html 11:54 < bridge> It's kinda funny to say it, but probably it was good for rusts success that the original author lost influence on it 11:55 < bridge> Tho some stuff sounds interesting 12:27 < bridge> correct, you need to do a wrapping addition for the snap "crc" 12:30 < bridge> seems like we're doing it with an unsigned integer already: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/16feff41de1f46cb8a3f0d852035c51e27403521/src/engine/shared/snapshot.cpp#L103 12:32 < bridge> does c++ have saturated add? 12:35 < bridge> doubt it has it in the standard library 12:35 < bridge> but you can write the three lines of code for it yourself, I guess 12:36 < bridge> https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/numeric/add_sat 12:36 < bridge> "since c++26" 😄 12:37 < bridge> ```c++ 12:37 < bridge> constexpr unsigned char c = std::add_sat(UCHAR_MAX, 4); // not saturated, T = int 12:37 < bridge> // add_sat(int, int) returns int tmp == 259, 12:37 < bridge> // then assignment truncates 259 % 256 == 3 12:38 < bridge> static_assert(c == 3); 12:38 < bridge> ``` 12:38 < bridge> amazing 12:44 < bridge> what 12:52 < bridge> adding casts soon to edlang 12:52 < bridge> and then it will be somewhat useful 12:52 < bridge> structs + extern fns 12:52 < bridge> so u can use libc 12:52 < bridge> nice 🙂 12:53 < bridge> then i think ill add some basic generics 12:53 < bridge> so i can make a allocator api 12:53 < bridge> alloc() 12:53 < bridge> and hide malloc 12:53 < bridge> generics are hard ^^ 12:54 < bridge> yeah thats why i said basic 12:54 < bridge> i guess it will be like only sized and no trait bounds for now 12:54 < bridge> there are no traits yet anyway xd 12:55 < bridge> will it be like C++ templates or more like rust generics? 12:55 < bridge> i.e. will you decide at declaration time that a template type-checks or at instantiation time? 12:58 < bridge> Make a multi layer compilation. So that proc macros have additional information like the data type of symbols etc. 12:58 < bridge> 12:58 < bridge> If u do that cleanly your respect increases 12:59 < bridge> Make object safe dyn with compile constant values :lol: 13:00 < bridge> That would be insanely cool. But I've no idea if that would be even possible 13:00 < bridge> Maybe if initialization is transparent to the compiler somehow 13:01 < bridge> Also dyn without box pls 13:01 < bridge> While u at the impossible stuff 13:01 < bridge> rust 13:01 < bridge> i like a lot rust traits 13:02 < bridge> what i wanna try is some new borrow checker techniques 13:02 < bridge> when i have a solid language 13:02 < bridge> Do u also like dyn? 13:02 < bridge> https://verdagon.dev/blog/zero-cost-borrowing-regions-overview 13:02 < bridge> Tbh I try as good as possible not to use it without making generics explode over the whole code base 13:03 < bridge> yes i like being able to do dynamic dispatch too 13:03 < bridge> u can do the technique i explained several times 13:03 < bridge> make the generic function small and a call to a non generic one 13:03 < bridge> like std does a lot 13:04 < bridge> ```rust 13:04 < bridge> fn a(x: T) { 13:04 < bridge> b(x.into()) 13:04 < bridge> } 13:04 < bridge> 13:04 < bridge> fn b(x: PathBuf) { big here } 13:04 < bridge> ``` 13:04 < bridge> pseudocode 13:04 < bridge> But I don't mean generic functions 13:04 < bridge> I mean data types 13:04 < bridge> ah 13:05 < bridge> But their impl ofc is generic too 13:05 < bridge> I also don't have a problem with generics 13:05 < bridge> It's just that it's much more code to write often 13:05 < bridge> So very rarely I use dynamic dispatch. 13:05 < bridge> But I try to minimize that 13:06 < bridge> Dyn is basically polymorphism 😬 13:06 < bridge> Hate me for that 13:08 < bridge> dyn is fat pointer 13:17 < bridge> in rust. in C++, the vtable poiner is part of the object itself 13:17 < bridge> in rust. in C++, the vtable pointer is part of the object itself 13:18 < bridge> Yeah that's a clever design choice by rust 13:18 < bridge> But when ryo always says he doesn't like polymorphism, then I doubt it is because of this argument xd 13:21 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks why u should report ur rust analyzer crashes: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-analyzer/issues/16656#event-11960074836 13:21 < bridge> i reported this one and they fixed it 13:22 < bridge> i was using nightly idk why but im using stable 13:22 < bridge> the nightly crashed xd 13:22 < bridge> I reported some stuff there already. They only fix it if it's a regression 13:22 < bridge> Design flaws are carried on for ever xd 13:22 < bridge> Understandable, but annoying 13:23 < bridge> xd 13:24 < bridge> But I blame Intel and amd. They should give me 64 cores clocked at 10ghz 13:25 < bridge> yes 13:25 < bridge> when blazingly fast speed 13:25 < bridge> On my desktop rust analyzer is usable. But on my second PC it's horrible xd 13:25 < bridge> xd 13:25 < bridge> i thnk vscode makes rust-analyzer slower tbh 13:25 < bridge> i think its faster on nvim or zed 13:25 < bridge> or lapce 13:25 < bridge> I think so too 13:26 < bridge> Lapce works somehow better. But then again it's too unstable xd 13:26 < bridge> qt creator 13:26 < bridge> I really don't want to say vscodr is good perf wise. But anything else just works better xD 13:27 < bridge> I tried so many in my CPP times already. At creator, eclipse, clion, visual studio 13:27 < bridge> All used for at least one month 13:27 < bridge> Vs felt best coding wise, but windows is slow 13:28 < bridge> Vscode second plus faster thanks to Linux😏 13:28 < bridge> Eclipse was always buggy xdd 13:28 < bridge> I used it for 2 years actually 13:29 < bridge> jetbrains IDEs always seemed better than eclipse to me 13:30 < bridge> Is android studio based on intellij? 13:30 < bridge> yes 13:31 < bridge> Then I don't like it. But at least android studio is stable 13:31 < bridge> But only wrote Java in it 13:31 < bridge> So I'm already biased against it xdd 13:32 < bridge> I think android studio was heavier than the other IDEs 13:32 < bridge> it's not by jetbrains directly, I think, but google(?) 13:35 < bridge> So did u try rustrover already? Xd 13:35 < bridge> yes, I'm actually using it to navigate big rust codebases 13:35 < bridge> I like it 13:35 < bridge> I guess it costs money? 13:37 < bridge> They video looks almost like vscode xd 13:37 < bridge> it's closed source. it currently does not cost money, and you personally will probably be able to use it for free after it'll cost something because you're a contributor to ddnet 13:38 < bridge> Epyc 13:41 < bridge> google paid jetbrains to make it and it uses their framework 13:41 < bridge> same for me? 13:41 < bridge> probably 13:41 < bridge> you also have edlang 😉 13:42 < bridge> morning :monkaCoffee: 13:42 < bridge> did jetbrains develop android studio on top of intellij or did jetbrains develop android studio on top of intellij? 13:42 < bridge> I thought it was the first one 13:42 < bridge> :PES3_SadCoffee: 13:42 < bridge> jetbrains has like their framework in which they make all their ides 13:42 < bridge> thats why they all look same 13:42 < bridge> yes 13:43 < bridge> but its probs heavily based on intellij 13:43 < bridge> i like android studio btw 13:43 < bridge> I know that this is the case 13:43 < bridge> why u sad :saddybear: 13:43 < bridge> but I was wondering who developed android studio on top of that framework or on top of intellij 13:43 < bridge> used it with flutter 13:43 < bridge> was it google or jetbrains? 13:43 < bridge> > Android Studio is the official integrated development environment (IDE) for Android application development. It is based on IntelliJ IDEA, a Java integrated development environment for software, and incorporates its code editing and developer tools. 13:43 < bridge> https://developer.android.com/studio/intro 13:43 < bridge> > Android Studio is the official Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for Android app development. Based on the powerful code editor and developer tools from IntelliJ IDEA , Android Studio offers even more features that enhance your productivity when building Android apps, such as: 13:43 < bridge> > 13:43 < bridge> > A flexible Gradle-based build system 13:44 < bridge> > A fast and feature-rich emulator 13:44 < bridge> > A unified environment where you can develop for all Android devices 13:44 < bridge> > Live Edit to update composables in emulators and physical devices in real time 13:44 < bridge> > Code templates and GitHub integration to help you build common app features and import sample code 13:44 < bridge> > Extensive testing tools and frameworks 13:44 < bridge> > Lint tools to catch performance, usability, version compatibility, and other problems 13:44 < bridge> > C++ and NDK support 13:44 < bridge> > Built-in support for Google Cloud Platform, making it easy to integrate Google Cloud Messaging and App Engine 13:44 < bridge> not sure if you're trying to answer my question, but you're not 13:44 < bridge> google also pushes for kotlin 13:44 < bridge> if you are, it feels like talking to a language model 13:44 < bridge> because java issues with licensing or smth 13:44 < bridge> @heinrich5991 xd 13:44 < bridge> this is the new 2024 insult or smth? kek 13:44 < bridge> but answering ur question: idk 13:45 < bridge> ok, you're not trying, then it's fine ^^ 13:45 < bridge> I was trying to describe my experience. I was asking a question and you kept posting large quotes that are vaguely related to the terms I used, but not at all to the question I asked 13:45 < bridge> my bet is jetbrains 13:45 < bridge> doubt it's that 13:46 < bridge> i dont think jetbrains would give their code for google to use 13:46 < bridge> to make android studio 13:46 < bridge> why not? if they're paid, as you say 13:46 < bridge> I think they are pushing kotlin because it has a better developer experience 13:47 < bridge> in unrelated news: https://cloudinary.com/blog/jpeg-xl-and-the-pareto-front 13:47 < bridge> jpeg xl seems like a really nice format 13:47 < bridge> I hope there will be unbiased benchmarks 13:47 < bridge> I only found like 2 blogs back then 13:48 < bridge> Back when chrome removed it :lol: 13:48 < bridge> the blog post looks sane to me 13:49 < bridge> i need a good name for my cargo for edlang 13:49 < bridge> or maybe just make it all edlang 13:49 < bridge> pkg.ed-lang.org 13:49 < bridge> docs.ed-lang.org 13:52 < bridge> Almost looks to good to be true. But tbf it's hard for me to understand the relevance of these graphs. But if it's so much better in both lossless and lossy, wtf have formats done in the past to be so bad xdd 13:53 < bridge> it's kinda like zstd, it's also much better than the rest 13:54 < bridge> ok, not mch better than the rest: https://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2017/03/07/better-compression-with-zstandard/ 13:55 < bridge> but strictly better than gzip 13:55 < bridge> yet a lot of stuff still uses gzip 13:59 < bridge> btw @ryozuki: https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support 14:01 < bridge> i go by https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html 14:01 < bridge> :PES_NotCool: 14:02 < bridge> @heinrich5991 14:02 < bridge> > 14:02 < bridge> > 9. License Must Not Restrict Other Software 14:02 < bridge> > 14:02 < bridge> > The license must not place restrictions on other software that is distributed along with the licensed software. For example, the license must not insist that all other programs distributed on the same medium must be open source software. 14:02 < bridge> does this clash with agpl? 14:03 < bridge> ok probs not 14:03 < bridge> that seems unrelated again ^^ 14:03 < bridge> i know but i wanted to post it 14:03 < bridge> cuz i saw the word open source 14:03 < bridge> do better? ^^ 14:03 < bridge> what does that mean xD 14:04 < bridge> be more interesting. a person that consistently posts a certain link on a certain phrase is not interesting 14:05 < bridge> what would you do 14:05 < bridge> try to follow the conversation, post the link if it's currently interesting 14:07 < bridge> added the agpl logo to the edlang web 14:07 < bridge> :brownbear: 14:07 < bridge> https://ed-lang.org/ 14:07 < bridge> maybe put a code sample in there 14:07 < bridge> so people can see what it looks like 🙂 14:09 < bridge> i havent fixed on my syntax yet so i didnt know whether to do that 14:10 < bridge> added one xd 14:11 < bridge> @heinrich5991 do u know how to make a link to the latest release artifact on github? 14:11 < bridge> https://github.com/edg-l/edlang/releases/download/v0.0.1-alpha.11/edlang 14:11 < bridge> this but for latest always 14:11 < bridge> just linking to /releases should work, no? 14:11 < bridge> ah 14:11 < bridge> the download 14:12 < ws-client> jopsti would you call your coding style benchmark driven development? 14:12 < ws-client> benchmark first then write code 14:12 < bridge> thanks for the code sample @ryozuki 🙂 14:16 < bridge> so no, don't have a solution 14:26 < bridge> For me brotli won, but I didn't use a custom directory 14:27 < bridge> But it also won by quite some margin. And even for binary files 14:28 < bridge> Chillerdragon: no, but for me stuff like compressions are easily to replace 14:28 < bridge> do you have some documentation on the numbers that you found? what kind of data did you compress? 14:28 < bridge> So I try to Bench such stuff 14:28 < bridge> that makes a lot of sense IMO 14:28 < bridge> Let me go on PC, but I shared them here 14:29 < bridge> here 🙂 14:30 < bridge> It was for a bincode encoded map file 14:30 < bridge> Tw map, but not like vanilla map files 14:30 < bridge> So it also contained lot of zeros 14:34 < bridge> @heinrich5991 do u know if u can have ssh over cloudflare? 14:34 < bridge> so i can enable ssh on forgejo 14:35 < bridge> https://git.edgarluque.com/ 14:35 < bridge> soon tm 14:35 < bridge> why do you want to have that? 14:35 < bridge> https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/connections/connect-networks/use-cases/ssh/ 14:35 < bridge> you can simply™ connect directly to the server IP address 14:36 < bridge> i dont want users using my forgejo to know my ip 14:36 < bridge> aah 14:36 < bridge> not sure if that's possible 14:36 < bridge> @heinrich5991 14:36 < bridge> https://pastebin.com/2NY0hg7E 14:36 < bridge> you seem to have read more than I did already 14:36 < bridge> Discord broken on PC dunno 14:37 < bridge> nice, thanks 14:37 < bridge> can you edit your message to include "brotli" so we can finid it in the future? ^^ 14:42 < bridge> Pastebins are deleted afyrer time anyway aren't they? 14:42 < bridge> pastila.nl 14:42 < bridge> ryo u can run a relay server 14:43 < bridge> in between the user and your server 14:43 < bridge> and expose that to cloudflare 14:43 < bridge> it communicates between the two independently 14:44 < bridge> don't think so 14:45 < bridge> @heinrich5991 14:46 < bridge> https://pastebin.com/2NY0hg7E 14:46 < bridge> @heinrich5991 14:46 < bridge> https://pastebin.com/2NY0hg7E brotli 14:48 < bridge> https://git.edgarluque.com/edg-l/edlang 14:48 < bridge> epyc 15:04 < bridge> apparently there is a cloudflare feature 15:04 < bridge> 15:04 < bridge> ill look into it later 15:05 < bridge> cool 15:08 < bridge> ill add later oauth with github 15:09 < bridge> is that actually proxied? 15:09 < bridge> or is it more like wireguard where you still connect to the target IP directly 15:10 < bridge> I couldn't tell from the page 15:25 < bridge> i think proxied 15:25 < bridge> with warp 15:27 < bridge> meh 15:27 < bridge> but this needs software on user side 15:27 < bridge> so its a no 15:31 < bridge> when crates io 15:34 < bridge> https://forgejo.org/2023-01-10-answering-forgejo-federation-questions/ 15:34 < bridge> forgejo has federation! 15:34 < bridge> https://forgefed.org/ 15:37 < bridge> @ryozuki when do we team up to create a rust-like language for GPUs 15:40 < bridge> after i do edlang 15:40 < bridge> btw forgejo allows creating a cargo repository 15:40 < bridge> pog 15:42 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks https://git.edgarluque.com/user/sign_up 15:42 < bridge> can u signup 15:42 < bridge> with ur github if u want 15:43 < bridge> xd 15:45 < bridge> xd 15:45 < bridge> whats funny xd 15:46 < bridge> it's not written in rust 😬 15:46 < bridge> 15:46 < bridge> ok no, i currently have no project to host there 15:47 < bridge> sadge 15:47 < bridge> do you feel alone on your selfhosted git instance? 15:47 < bridge> yes 15:47 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks but apparently its federated 15:48 < bridge> so u can create issues among forgejo instances 15:48 < bridge> e.g i have my account in my instance 15:48 < bridge> ah cool 15:48 < bridge> i can make a issue on another instance 15:48 < bridge> idk how it works 15:52 < bridge> https://git.edgarluque.com/edg-l/ddnet 15:52 < bridge> pog 15:54 < bridge> the only thing i'd highly be interested in is better stats than gitlab 15:54 < bridge> contributor stats etc 15:55 < bridge> my interest is not relying on microsoft github xd 15:55 < bridge> yeah understandable, but sadly also no very realistic if u want your project to have visibility 15:55 < bridge> except it's a really game changing project xd 15:56 < bridge> yeah 15:56 < bridge> im using this as mirror for now 15:57 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks it has action runner support too 15:57 < bridge> https://forgejo.org/docs/next/admin/actions/ 16:10 < bridge> @robyt3 #8036 what do i need to do, does it always increase memory or any specific condition? 16:10 < bridge> 16:10 < bridge> just open f1 console and it starts? 16:10 < bridge> 16:10 < bridge> does chat msg also work? 16:10 < bridge> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8036 16:10 < bridge> yes, just open console or active chat and it should start (with Vulkan) 16:10 < bridge> Somehow increases faster if there is less text in the console, so maybe linked to frame rate 16:12 < bridge> VRAM or RAM? 16:13 < bridge> RAM I assume, it's the normal value in task manager 16:14 < bridge> how long do i need to wait xd 16:14 < bridge> for me it doesnt increase by 1 byte xD 16:14 < bridge> It should start immediately 16:15 < bridge> Maybe it's Windows only again, or are you already on Windows? 16:15 < bridge> i have chat + console open 16:15 < bridge> nah 16:16 < bridge> It also behaves different in release and debug mode, but memory keeps increasing in both 16:16 < bridge> im in debug rn 16:16 < bridge> In release mode I get large lag spikes when the memory is freed, in debug I don't get the spikes for some reason 16:16 < bridge> and as soon as you close it, the RAM drops? 16:17 < bridge> yeah, it goes back to the normal value again, so everything is properly freed 16:17 < bridge> but it keeps allocating something 16:17 < bridge> sounds more like a IME thing 16:17 < bridge> xd 16:17 < bridge> how did u find out it's ONE TIME SUBMIT? 16:17 < bridge> If you remove `TextEx` calls it works 16:17 < bridge> If you only remove the flag it also works 16:17 < bridge> But then the memory usage keeps fluctuating 16:18 < bridge> But it does not increase over time 16:18 < bridge> maybe it's the shared pointer in the text containers? 16:18 < bridge> std::shared_ptr m_UseCount = 16:18 < bridge> std::make_shared(STextContainerUsages()); 16:18 < bridge> this one 16:18 < bridge> but weird that i dont get the bug at all 16:19 < bridge> do u also use a different compiler? 16:19 < bridge> MSVC? 16:19 < bridge> yeah, I did debug with GCC and RelWithDebug with MSVC 16:19 < bridge> mh 16:19 < bridge> I used MSVC profiler to find out that these allocations/frees are on the hot path 16:20 < bridge> that would probably also speak for the shared ptr 16:20 < bridge> but on the other hand side u said only on vk 16:21 < bridge> i'm just surprised that it's not visible, does windows task manager by chance also track VRAM xD 16:22 < bridge> ok 16:22 < bridge> yeah, but not per process I think, I'll test 16:24 < bridge> VRAM stays unchanged 16:24 < bridge> Simply removing the shared ptr did not fix it 16:25 < bridge> but u are 100% certain it only happens with vk? 16:25 < bridge> can u press CTRL shift D and see if the memory usage spikes in the top 16:25 < bridge> esp the "streamed" one 16:26 < bridge> all stays unchanged while the console is open 16:27 < bridge> what confuses me most is that the memory does not leak 16:27 < bridge> yeah, with OpenGL memory usage does not increase 16:27 < bridge>