00:08 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> :brownbear:
00:44 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i think its really goofy that in shell theres the if...fi concept
00:45 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> like, i mean this in a funny manner
00:45 < bridge> <heinrich5991> also case…esac
00:45 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> LOL
00:46 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> cant wait for an update that makes do...while...done loops do...while...od
00:52 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> build.yml
00:52 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1168336686137213068/image.png?ex=65516554&is=653ef054&hm=ab5ffbde071b4c8d538a2c4d7dbfa02cb80741db3beb17c3e5581372787dd75e&
00:53 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> why is rm -rf here specifically xd
00:53 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> oh wait no theres a mkdir
00:53 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> it flushes out the folder
02:17 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> Is all the shader logic inside ddnet/data/shaders?
02:17 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> Or is there a different path to how things are rendered onto the screen?
06:37 < bridge> <Ewan> morning
07:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> mornin
07:13 < bridge> <Ewan> k what to code
07:32 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Well hard question. The memory management is not in the shaders
09:25 < bridge> <kekomonter> I think ye
10:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks soon https://doc.rust-lang.org/rustc/linker-plugin-lto.html
10:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> > The -C linker-plugin-lto flag allows for deferring the LTO optimization to the actual linking step, which in turn allows for performing interprocedural optimizations across programming language boundaries if all the object files being linked were created by LLVM based toolchains. The prime example here would be linking Rust code together with Clang-compiled C/C++ code.
10:33 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Epic
11:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> im learning godot
11:14 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> nice
11:14 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i think patiga is done learning godot 😂
11:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> wdym
11:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> is this bad or good xd
11:16 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> for what he wants to do it's not flexible enough
11:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> what does he need that godot doesnt have
11:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> better custom shaders and stuff like that.
11:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> It simply depends on what your goal is. he tried to do ddnet related-rendering.
11:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> In 3d you probably don't need custom shaders
11:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/shaders/your_first_shader/index.html
11:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> ?
11:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the shader subset is simply too bad
11:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> u can't push custom uniforms etc.
11:20 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @ryozuki that shouldn't demotivate you ofc. you'll learn something useful from using it
11:20 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> even if it's just understanding stuff u never used before
11:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> ehh well
11:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> its the 5 time i said im learning godot
11:20 < bridge> <ryozuki> im just lazy
11:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> me2 xdd
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> tbh i wanted to keep using bevy for the teecity game
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> but doing ui code is so tedious
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> and since its such a simple game
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> i hoped godot makes it easier
11:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> ui code is tedious if you don't have hot reloading
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> or a ui editor
11:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
11:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> does bevy offer that or do u need to recompile=
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> recompile
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> rip
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> wait for ddnet-rust
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> i just love how bevy is done
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 😏
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> but im lazy
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> the ecs just feels good to use
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> and makes lot of sense
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> also im using rust
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> i think ill never be a true game dev
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> cuz when i have to do a asset
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> btw i am using rust
11:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> i just go play games
11:23 < bridge> <ryozuki> nice
11:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> every developer knows this feeling xd
11:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the greatest indi games are from ppl that are more designers than coders xd
11:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> team up with voxel. he's awesome artist
11:24 < bridge> <ryozuki> voxel hates me cuz i love rust
11:24 < bridge> <ryozuki> :owo:
11:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> deep in his heart, he also loves rust and linux
11:24 < bridge> <patiga> its the tilemaps that are not performant enough :/
11:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> i see
11:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/2d/using_tilemaps.html
11:25 < bridge> <ryozuki> this right?
11:25 < bridge> <patiga> yea
11:26 < bridge> <patiga> small maps are fine
11:26 < bridge> <patiga> but bigger ones destroy performance
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> yes i heard godot is not ready for big tilemaps or open world games
11:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> it needs to implement chunks or smth idk tbh i just over read this xd
11:27 < bridge> <patiga> https://gitlab.com/Patiga/ddnet-godot
11:27 < bridge> <patiga> you can try it out if you like ^^
11:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @ryozuki omg yes, do another ddnet impl
11:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> robyte & me vs. Patiga & Zwelf vs. Ryozuki & Voxel
11:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> such a great setup
11:28 < bridge> <patiga> a story for the history books
11:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
11:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> i doubt i have the will to do such a big project rn
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> sadly i think work takes my 90% will to code afterwards
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> my will is beyond reach
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> thats dope
13:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> damn so many things i want to do
13:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> now iwant to keep going with edlang
13:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> now i want to keep going with edlang
13:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> midlife (23) developer crisis :pepeW:
13:45 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Exactly you are only 23
13:45 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 1 year edlang, 1 year ur game
13:45 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> And u still only 25
13:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> 1 year edlang and then the game with edlang
13:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> :gigachad:
13:46 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> :brownbear:
13:46 < bridge> <ryozuki> builtin vulkan support
13:46 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Epic
13:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupos
13:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks do u knwo about https://haxe.org/
13:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> its a lang made specifically for game dev
13:59 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Interesting. Looks very high level tho
13:59 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Maybe nice for scripting
14:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://ldtk.io/
14:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> haxe was used when making the games  papers please, dead cells, northgard, evoland, etc
14:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> and this editor
14:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> > Haxe is an open source high-level strictly-typed programming language with a fast optimizing cross-compiler.
14:04 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks it looks like js but its stricly typed
14:04 < bridge> <ryozuki> and uses a optimizing compiler instead of a runtime like js
14:05 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> afaik https://armory3d.org/ uses haxe but it can also use "visual" code
14:06 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I made my first game in qbasic
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> that looks cool
14:07 < bridge> <ryozuki> i made my first "game" more like engine in C
14:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame
14:08 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> it lacks geometry nodes (modifiers in general) to be part of the game
14:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> it has nothing rly
14:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> xdd
14:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> just a tilemap kek
14:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame/blob/master/src/engine/list.h
14:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> my own list lol
14:10 < bridge> <ryozuki> `#define engine_list_for(list_name, node) for(Node *node = list_name->head; node; node = node->next)`
14:10 < bridge> <ryozuki> lul i even had a macro to loop
14:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Pro. You directly started professional xd
14:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I started with dots and circles xdd
14:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Literally
14:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> <https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame/blob/master/src/engine/textbuffer.h>
14:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> i even had my own string impl
14:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> ok very simple tho
14:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> <https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame/blob/master/src/engine/tilemap.c#L106-L167>
14:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks look opengl code
14:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> i had so much free time
14:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> i need to make this in rust
14:16 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Nice even ogl 3.3
14:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> ye
14:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks i even had clang-format
14:21 < bridge> <ryozuki> i was ahead of times
14:27 < bridge> <heinrich5991> permalink: https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame/blob/f1e8d30750da7d59466d6e1cd7b10ec998b2f284/src/engine/tilemap.c#L106-L167
14:28 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2 how much of a old C user are you, do you prefer to use typedef when defining a struct, or you like to put the struct keyword everytime
14:29 < bridge> <learath2> I will only typedef away a struct for an opaque type
14:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> so my code is not idiomatic f
14:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2 r u out of uni yet
14:51 < bridge> <learath2> 3 days left
14:51 < bridge> <ryozuki> :poggers2:
14:51 < bridge> <learath2> Well assuming I don't fail an accounting exam 😄
14:51 < bridge> <ryozuki> xD
14:52 < bridge> <learath2> If I do fail it 6 months more :pepeW:
14:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Wow finished uni with 12.
14:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I'm so proud my kid
14:53 < bridge> <ryozuki> 💵
16:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> damn
16:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> we missed this but
16:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> its big
16:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7393
16:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> @archimede67 poggers
17:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2 @jupeyy_keks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8s9uzPIqQ4
17:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> this video is good
17:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> it has the sentence "windows sucks" in it
17:14 < bridge> <learath2> I think I posted this before 😄
17:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> gnu core utils for plan9
17:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> nagato is too based or smth
17:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> down bad
17:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1168584598301716541/image.png?ex=65524c37&is=653fd737&hm=d057de99e2a9ef39b2318d02ee492141bf82a245f6dade01298136061ea00969&
17:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> holy based
17:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CopPj3S3YQ0
17:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
17:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> down bad
17:22 < bridge> <ryozuki> funny thing is i also got  a white monster when i installed gentoo on my sv recently
17:24 < bridge> <ryozuki> this guy is cheating cuz its a vm tho
17:24 < bridge> <ryozuki> so he didnt use lynx to get the url for the stage3 kek
17:26 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> just the embed thumbnail alone tells me this dude has not taken a shower in a year
17:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> its a girl
17:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
17:27 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> the person who made the vid?
17:27 < bridge> <learath2> No way
17:27 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> 🛑👍
17:27 < bridge> <learath2> That is a dude, I know dude hands
17:28 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> anyways windows is based
17:31 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Auch a ryo video xd
17:34 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ryo videos are just boomer humor for linux users
17:35 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> this was actually pretty funny actually
17:37 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> this was actually pretty funny
17:37 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> the edit is because I had 2 `actually`
17:43 < bridge> <Ewan> good morning
17:44 < bridge> <Mr.Gh0s7> 🍵
17:45 < bridge> <Ewan> making noises my little furry friend would make
17:47 < bridge> <Ewan> his firefox is desparately out of date
17:47 < bridge> <Ewan> they may have been dude hands at one point
17:48 < bridge> <Ewan> i think ryo is troll
17:48 < bridge> <Ewan> this dude is a dude
17:48 < bridge> <learath2> That is a fair point, I guess I should have said that person has been assigned male at birth 😄
17:55 < bridge> <Ewan> damn
17:55 < bridge> <Ewan> just got a battery for my electric-acoustic preamp and the tuner is working but not the output
17:55 < bridge> <cyberFighter> im starting to believe tees have fingers
17:56 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what
17:56 < bridge> <cyberFighter> and not just a thumb
17:56 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> tees have 6 fingers
17:56 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> source: i made it up
17:56 < bridge> <cyberFighter> 5
17:56 < bridge> <cyberFighter> they gotta give middle fingers
17:57 < bridge> <Ewan> listen to squonk
17:57 < bridge> <Ewan> by the best band to ever exist
17:57 < bridge> <cyberFighter> and the hands in tee images are just clenched fists
17:59 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> such a ryo video xd
18:11 < bridge> <teero777> haha she says she has 8k cores but uses -j5 XDD
18:12 < bridge> <teero777> nub
18:14 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 8k distrobuted around many pcs xdd
18:14 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> maybe -j5 per computer xd
18:15 < bridge> <Ewan> we have a chillerbot-zx on a ger2 novice server
18:15 < bridge> <Ewan> xd
18:15 < bridge> <Ewan> chiller creating weapons of mass destruction
18:18 < bridge> <teero777> maybe
18:18 < bridge> <Ewan> what do u guys think about this
18:18 < bridge> <Ewan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1168599700644036619/image.png?ex=65525a48&is=653fe548&hm=165df98b1e52fac007a7839f6a71484a91aeb86e0849b544bb17a20abb0b0a6f&
18:18 < bridge> <teero777> damn
18:18 < bridge> <teero777> damn 🔥
18:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> stable resolution
18:19 < bridge> <Ewan> what do u mean
18:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> stabile auflösung xd
18:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> nice resolution
18:19 < bridge> <teero777> gg xd
18:20 < bridge> <Ewan> oh
18:20 < bridge> <Ewan> lol
18:20 < bridge> <Ewan> thanks
18:20 < bridge> <Ewan> zoom 10 is a headache on a big screen
18:21 < bridge> <Ewan> hi teereo
18:21 < bridge> <Ewan> teero
22:32 < bridge> <blazulite> hello, I'm pretty new on this development world so uh...
22:32 < bridge> <blazulite> is there a way to host a ddnet server using Amazon AWS?
22:32 < bridge> <blazulite> and in case there's a way... how?
22:33 < bridge> <blazulite> I don't really understand, I tried using EC2 with docker but it doesn't work at all for some reason? I can't even pull the files onto AWS
22:33 < bridge> <blazulite> thx in advance for your help :]
22:34 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Do you get any errors? Which docker image are you using?
22:34 < bridge> <blazulite> I was trying to ise DDNetPP
22:35 < bridge> <blazulite> to make a server for friends
22:35 < bridge> <blazulite> to make a server for my friends
22:35 < bridge> <blazulite> I was trying to use DDNetPP
22:36 < bridge> <blazulite> And also, I get error in most of the things
22:36 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Did you create an dockerfile your self for ddnet++ ?
22:36 < bridge> <blazulite> there was one already
22:36 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Could you link it?
22:36 < bridge> <blazulite> omw, one sec
22:38 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Do you want a ddnet or ddnet++ server?
22:38 < bridge> <blazulite> a ddnet++ one
22:38 < bridge> <blazulite> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1168665322182684733/Dockerfile?ex=65529765&is=65402265&hm=ff5f32fd4542ef543ee8087f7f3be2370824060e992ecc7f37a124bf51b9112b&
22:38 < bridge> <blazulite> here's the dockerfile
22:39 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Doesn’t preview well on iOS
22:39 < bridge> <blazulite> dunno if you can see it via IRC so lmk
22:39 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Where is it from?
22:39 < bridge> <blazulite> the official repo
22:39 < bridge> <chillerdragon> The Debian 11 one?
22:39 < bridge> <blazulite> I think?
22:39 < bridge> <blazulite> Idk which brand I downoaded
22:40 < bridge> <chillerdragon> Yea that’s not really functional. That was inherited from vanilla ddnet which was built by I think lerato in the 90s
22:40 < bridge> <blazulite> branch*
22:40 < bridge> <chillerdragon> For idk what
22:40 < bridge> <blazulite> Ohhh
22:40 < bridge> <chillerdragon> I recommend getting this image to run to test your aws Config https://hub.docker.com/r/chillerdragon/ddnet-simple
22:40 < bridge> <chillerdragon> It’s a simple out of the box ddnet server
22:41 < bridge> <chillerdragon> I can build you one for ddnet++ that you can drop in replace tomorrow
22:41 < bridge> <blazulite> oh, well, if you want I would appreciate it
22:47 < bridge> <teero777> That must be some beefy school computers to have atleast 8 cores xd.
22:54 < bridge> <blazulite> I can't open hub.docker.com
22:54 < bridge> <blazulite> 💀what
23:01 < bridge> <Ewan> they barely make processors with less than 6 anymore
23:01 < bridge> <Ewan> only quad cores nowadays are i3s and super low end/mobile processors that you couldn't run a compiler on anyway
23:01 < bridge> <Ewan> and those are hyperthreaded
23:02 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> why even 8 cores?
23:02 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> -j5 = 5 threads
23:03 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> -j600, so every translation unit has its own thread for ddnet
23:03 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> xd
23:10 < bridge> <Ewan> 😅
23:11 < bridge> <Ewan> when are we gonna compile on the gpu
23:11 < bridge> <Ewan> not shaders
23:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Yeah develop a language that can be compiled in a way that gpu cores profit from it
23:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Would be very interesting and extremely challenging project
23:29 < bridge> <Ewan> yea
23:29 < bridge> <Ewan> fun time