00:52 < bridge> <Ewan> something which will never be merged
01:17 < bridge> <heinrich5991> check how rust does it ^^
07:37 < bridge> <TsFreddie> :owo: me rn
08:01 < bridge> <Ewan> hi fred
08:01 < bridge> <Ewan> what's good in the hood
08:02 < bridge> <TsFreddie> nothing
08:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> its raining
08:48 < bridge> <teero777> it's foggy
08:51 < bridge> <MilkeeyCat> raining
08:51 < bridge> <teero777> it's cold
09:29 < bridge> <teero777> I'm bored 🥱
09:29 < bridge> <teero777> Someone bring up a controversial topic pls
09:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> rust is better than c
09:41 < bridge> <fokkonaut> UFOs are real
09:55 < bridge> <teero777> I'm sure the are some unidentifizierte Flugobjekte
09:57 < bridge> <teero777> you can still write shit slow code even if you write it in ASM. Not a worthy convo
09:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> @teero777 u said controversial not worthy
09:57 < bridge> <teero777> Hmm okay mb
09:58 < bridge> <ryozuki> german sounds alien
09:58 < bridge> <teero777> Which people do you think are botting?
09:59 < bridge> <teero777> *that are publicly seen as legit players
10:00 < bridge> <reitw> Aggressive alien
10:00 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> he said controversial xd
10:01 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> not truth
10:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> xdd
10:01 < bridge> <teero777> untruth
10:01 < bridge> <teero777> I'm a C fan
10:01 < bridge> <teero777> 🪭
10:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> then u can upgrade
10:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> to rust fan
10:01 < bridge> <reitw> If you don't have a long beard
10:01 < bridge> <reitw> You're not a C fan
10:02 < bridge> <teero777> 😭
10:04 < bridge> <teero777> Usually I would try to remove as much rust as possible from old objects when I need to use them. And then add some wd40 into the mix and then everything is working again
10:05 < bridge> <teero777> On the other hand carbon is a very good material
10:05 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the name rust is ambiguous
10:06 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> in this case Rust means a mushroom
10:06 < bridge> <ryozuki> its a mushroom yes
10:06 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> not the metal rusting stuff
10:06 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/ferris-rust-rustlang-crab-cute-gif-26396486
10:07 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://youtu.be/7wp1xknPA5A?si=jgPnNZQ4qtzL-ZWq
10:07 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> me when coding rust
10:07 < bridge> <teero777> Hmm who would name a programming language like one of most annoying things in the wolrd
10:07 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> bcs it makes u high
10:08 < bridge> <teero777> You mean a rusty syringe? Xd
10:08 < bridge> <teero777> You mean a rusty syringe? XD
10:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> xd
10:09 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1163388116103610449/image0.jpg?ex=653f649d&is=652cef9d&hm=bdc5085f2683a20b77bd20ef0b3ec4f59b5ca70abaca6b683eeadf8ac4397fc5&
10:09 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> a rusty syringe with rust elixir
10:09 < bridge> <teero777> Look at that beautiful C
10:09 < bridge> <teero777> Sudden 10X dev potion
10:09 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> yes, that C is beatiful. but it's a capital C.. nothing to do with c
10:09 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> xd
10:09 < bridge> <teero777> C is a capital C
10:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> better learn this:
10:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
10:10 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C--
10:11 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> where is c// and c**
10:11 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> at least there is c:// on windows xd
10:11 < bridge> <teero777> There is also c-hashtag :troll:
10:12 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
10:12 < bridge> <teero777> The C on windows is fake
10:12 < bridge> <teero777> The c on windows is fake
10:13 < bridge> <teero777> Any good words starting with C?
10:14 < bridge> <teero777> wtf is clunking?
10:14 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Cool
10:14 < bridge> <fokkonaut> cock
10:14 < bridge> <fokkonaut> 🐓
10:15 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1163389677546516520/Screenshot_20231016-101504.png?ex=653f6611&is=652cf111&hm=54aa0ab30fb75c38e83ea86426374e9af4c23ee012c243c15373da95dca27c2b&
10:15 < bridge> <teero777> New favourite word
10:15 < bridge> <fokkonaut> tf is that translator
10:16 < bridge> <teero777> huh? Deepl
10:16 < bridge> <fokkonaut> tf is that phone
10:16 < bridge> <teero777> nothing 1
10:17 < bridge> <fokkonaut> whats your reason for having bought that
10:17 < bridge> <teero777> needed a phone
10:17 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Hipster
10:17 < bridge> <fokkonaut> specifically this, i mean
10:17 < bridge> <teero777> Was easy to jailbreak
10:18 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Arent all phones easy to jailbreak
10:18 < bridge> <fokkonaut> android*
10:19 < bridge> <teero777> I was looking at phones and this one looked good and it has good performance
10:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @fokkonaut leak urs
10:20 < bridge> <fokkonaut> I was just about to write an essay of my current phone dilemma
10:20 < bridge> <teero777> fokkonaut is chatting from the landline
10:21 < bridge> <teero777> Haustelefon ftw
10:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Telefonzelle
10:21 < bridge> <fokkonaut> So, I have had a S9 for 5 years now and its broken now so I really need a new one. Been looking at the S23 lately as its dropping in price more and more, but it has no SD card slot and no headphone jack, and I hate that companies follow Apple on this shit
10:21 < bridge> <teero777> Got my phone for 200
10:22 < bridge> <reitw> Don't buy Samsung
10:22 < bridge> <fokkonaut> I'll be happy to pay 550€+ for the S23, but those two things suck
10:22 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Ofc I'll buy Samsung
10:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I have pocophone f5
10:22 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Snapdragon 8 pro
10:22 < bridge> <fokkonaut> so efficient cpu
10:23 < bridge> <reitw> Nothing phone cuz they 're not that expensive or google pixel 8
10:23 < bridge> <fokkonaut> gen 2*
10:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I have the snapdragon 7 gen 2
10:23 < bridge> <fokkonaut> (Yay started a controversial topic)
10:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 4nm
10:23 < bridge> <reitw> No
10:23 < bridge> <teero777> Sadly nothing phone doesnt have a headphone jack either
10:23 < bridge> <fokkonaut> snapdragon 8 gen 2 has been adjusted to samsungs software
10:23 < bridge> <fokkonaut> to be more efficient
10:24 < bridge> <reitw> I'm thinking between Google pixel 8 or 8 pro
10:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I don't want Samsung software
10:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Lmao
10:24 < bridge> <reitw> Native Android> all
10:24 < bridge> <fokkonaut> samsung phones are the best android phones
10:24 < bridge> <teero777> What do you need to be efficient about? I play minesweeper on my phone and tats the only game xd
10:24 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I jailbreak it and put custom rom
10:24 < bridge> <reitw> Lol no
10:24 < bridge> <fokkonaut> lol yes
10:24 < bridge> <fokkonaut> I like Samsung most
10:25 < bridge> <reitw> In what exactly, cuz they're never above google in dxomark lmao
10:25 < bridge> <teero777> same. native android there isn't much to control
10:25 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Its pretty expensive for what it delivers
10:25 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> But they have quite good phones
10:25 < bridge> <fokkonaut> True, but UX is on point
10:25 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Feature wise
10:25 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Thats why I'm waiting a little for the price to drop even more
10:26 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Might buy it on black friday
10:26 < bridge> <Ewan> hey fellas
10:26 < bridge> <reitw> Currently Google pixel 8 has the best screen + probably best photoshoot phone, just waiting for dxomark to release it
10:26 < bridge> <fokkonaut> or earlier, if its cheap enough
10:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> I have 120hz. That's all i ever needed
10:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Xd
10:26 < bridge> <fokkonaut> so good for the eyes
10:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> And big barriers
10:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Battery
10:26 < bridge> <fokkonaut> best screen? doubt, samsungs amoled is pro
10:27 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> And 12gb ram 😬
10:27 < bridge> <teero777> same but it sucks on my battery like a Capri sun
10:27 < bridge> <reitw> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1163392740617359391/Screenshot_20231016_102712_Samsung_Internet.jpg?ex=653f68ec&is=652cf3ec&hm=c9c5549bea68d25065a7a342b8fed2388295db208f0b6dc35b79dcc7693025f6&
10:27 < bridge> <reitw> @fokkonaut sorry for you but dxomark is a reference since years for everyone
10:27 < bridge> <teero777> same but it sucks on my battery like it's a Capri sun
10:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Don't they all use Samsung screens xd
10:28 < bridge> <fokkonaut> its fine, samsung is just right after google
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> im getting stack corruption from an in-bounds write to a locked SDL_Surface's pixels
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> ```cpp
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> void RenderUtilities::FadeSurfaceOut(SDL_Surface *surf, const SDL_Rect *rect, bool axis, bool direction) {
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     if (!SDLUtilities::SurfaceIsValid(surf) || surf->format->Amask == 0) // surface is invalid or doesn't have an alpha channel
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         return;
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     SDL_LockSurface(surf);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     int x_start = rect->x + (axis ? 0 : rect->w);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     int x_target = rect->x + (axis ? rect->w : 0);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     int y_start = rect->y + (axis ? 0 : rect->h);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     int y_target = rect->y + (axis ? rect->h : 0);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     if (x_target > surf->w || y_target > surf->h)
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         return;
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>     auto AdjustPixelAlpha = [&](int a_x, int a_y) {
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         static uint32_t *pixels, *target_pixel = nullptr;
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         static uint8_t r, g, b, src_a, new_a;
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         static float fraction;
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         pixels = reinterpret_cast<uint32_t *>(surf->pixels);
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         target_pixel = &pixels[((a_y * surf->pitch) / surf->format->BytesPerPixel) + a_x];
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:28 < bridge> <Ewan>         if (axis)
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>             fraction = direction ? (float(a_x - x_start) / float(x_target - x_start))
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>                                  : (float(a_y - y_start) / float(y_target - y_start));
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>         else
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>             fraction = direction ? (float(x_start - a_x) / float(x_start - x_target))
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>                                  : (float(y_start - a_y) / float(y_start - y_target));
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> 
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan>         SDL_GetRGBA(*target_pixel, surf->format, &r, &g, &b, &src_a);
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> WTF
10:29 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Ban
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> wdym ban
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> ban
10:29 < bridge> <fokkonaut> Ban
10:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> Nab
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> ban ban caliban
10:29 < bridge> <fokkonaut> tali
10:29 < bridge> <reitw> Seems like not
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> i cannot fathom why
10:29 < bridge> <Ewan> experts help me
10:30 < bridge> <reitw> It's Samsung, lg or boe
10:30 < bridge> <reitw> And the camera on the 8 pro damn
10:31 < bridge> <reitw> Will get 1st probably on dxomark
10:31 < bridge> <fokkonaut> google fanboy
10:31 < bridge> <teero777> btw in the last else thing in the loop shouldn't it be a >= instead of a >?
10:31 < bridge> <reitw> Native is Always better
10:31 < bridge> <reitw> Less shit
10:31 < bridge> <Ewan> perhaps
10:31 < bridge> <fokkonaut> thats true yes
10:32 < bridge> <Ewan> it was but then i changed it to see if it was making an oob access (and it wasn't)
10:32 < bridge> <Ewan> but i forgot to change it back
10:34 < bridge> <teero777> btw in the last else thing in the loop shouldn't it be a >= instead of a >? Else it misses the 0 index
10:34 < bridge> <teero777> Same for the other backwards forloops
10:34 < bridge> <teero777> btw in the last else thing in the loop shouldn't it be a >= instead of a >?
10:35 < bridge> <teero777> Btw when you return you want to unlock the surface again if that's a thing
10:36 < bridge> <Ewan> um i did
10:36 < bridge> <teero777> In the exceptions
10:36 < bridge> <teero777> The if after the lock
10:36 < bridge> <Ewan> oh yeah i missed that
10:36 < bridge> <Ewan> thanks
10:37 < bridge> <Ewan> not the issue tho
10:39 < bridge> <teero777> Hmm
10:41 < bridge> <teero777> Well you just can't write to a locked surface with SDL_MapRGBA right?
10:42 < bridge> <Ewan> nop
10:43 < bridge> <teero777> ah wait
10:44 < bridge> <Ewan> i also tried a SDL_memcpy
10:44 < bridge> <Ewan> which did not work
10:44 < bridge> <Ewan> cuz it wouldn't do anything differently
10:44 < bridge> <teero777> Why use Sdl functions anyway?
10:44 < bridge> <Ewan> wdym
10:45 < bridge> <Ewan> unknown endianness and pixel format
10:45 < bridge> <Ewan> sdl accounts for all of that
10:45 < bridge> <Ewan> sdl functions account for all of that
10:45 < bridge> <teero777> ah ok
11:07 < bridge> <Ewan> i'll have to sleep on it
12:14 < bridge> <learath2> Seems the 8 pro does use a samsung oled panel, I wonder how dxomark grades the display
15:12 < bridge> <heinrich5991> what's the best UX for the ipv6 registering? perhaps only show errors the first time?
16:29 < bridge> <deen> Yes, would be nice to have a message "ipv6 registering failed, will ignore it from now on"
16:30 < bridge> <deen> Also maybe a message that this doesn't mean that the registering failed in total. Would be best to wait until both register attempts are finished, then print `registered on ipv4, ipv6` if both worked, or `registered on ipv4` if only that worked. I think many won't even know what ipv6 is and just read the error as "registering failed"
16:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> @learath2 is C `__uint128_t` something i can expect to be in most modern compilers?
16:52 < bridge> <ryozuki> or should i use `unsigned __int128`
16:55 < bridge> <learath2> If int128 is there uint128 will be there too
16:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> but apparently `unsigned __int128` is the way
16:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> there is no `__uint128`
16:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> iirc
16:55 < bridge> <ryozuki> without the _t
16:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16088282/is-there-a-128-bit-integer-in-gcc
16:56 < bridge> <learath2> Oh without the t hmm
16:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> `typedef unsigned _BitInt(128)  u128`
16:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> this is C23 feature
16:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> i wish it was earlier
16:56 < bridge> <ryozuki> arbitrary precision ints
16:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> arbitrary bit ints
16:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#extended-integer-types
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> #define __GLIBCXX_TYPE_INT_N_0 __int128
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> #define __GLIBCXX_BITSIZE_INT_N_0 128
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
17:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> apparently u need this if u want libstdc++ to handle them too
17:02 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://www.openbsd.org/74.html
17:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks new pfp
17:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> i think its better
17:21 < bridge> <TsFreddie> :poggers2:
17:23 < bridge> <learath2> The only piece of code I ever used a 128 bit integer in seems to use the uint128_t
17:25 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> epic
17:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> i also changed it on gh
17:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> cuz i was bored of the fish
17:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> no more fish
17:28 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> +30% coding skill
17:29 < bridge> <learath2> Is it anime girl on gh?
17:29 < bridge> <learath2> If so you are now the bestest programmist among us
17:29 < bridge> <patiga> @ryozuki when v-tuber rust coding stream?
17:29 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ryozuki still has anime pfp on gh
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> i mean i just put it now
17:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> before i had a fish
17:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> it is
17:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> i have no fear
17:30 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ok now fix all 512+ issues
17:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> since i have a anime pfp i can only code in rust
17:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> as its a weeb lang
17:32 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> fake programmer
17:32 < bridge> <learath2> Fearless concurrency?
17:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> fearless weebency
17:36 < bridge> <heinrich5991> @learath2 know a tool that can show me the dependencies of a dll on windows?
17:38 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> wine-dump
17:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
17:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> its hilarious u need wine
17:38 < bridge> <ryozuki> wine better than win itself
17:38 < bridge> <heinrich5991> I don't have that installed, where do I get it?
17:39 < bridge> <heinrich5991> unlikely that you need wine, probably just because we're mostly using linux here
17:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i dunno, mingw package manager
17:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> u can download the packages
17:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> without pacman
17:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> my coffee got cold again
17:39 < bridge> <heinrich5991> ah, on windows? tried on my arch linux
17:41 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> sometimes i wonder when someone will ask for how to do something on windows and one of you guys will send the arch/gentoo installation website
17:42 < bridge> <heinrich5991> already happened, I think
17:43 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> 💀
17:49 < bridge> <heinrich5991> actually sounds like something where chatgpt might be helpful
17:52 < bridge> <heinrich5991> indeed: it suggested dependency walker
17:52 < bridge> <learath2> On windows or on linux?
17:52 < bridge> <heinrich5991> it's right there in the question 😄 "on windows"
17:53 < bridge> <heinrich5991> 500 KiB tool
17:53 < bridge> <heinrich5991> I wonder how they build it
17:53 < bridge> <learath2> If you have VC there is a dumpbin
17:54 < bridge> <learath2> I used this too, it's much more userfriendly
17:56 < bridge> <heinrich5991> is there an equivalent to rpath on windows/
17:56 < bridge> <heinrich5991> is there an equivalent to rpath on windows?
17:58 < bridge> <learath2> No
17:59 < bridge> <heinrich5991> @learath2 do you know whether I can get a more useful error than "File not found" from `LoadLibrary`?
17:59 < bridge> <heinrich5991> I guess tracing the dynamic linker… don't want to do that
18:00 < bridge> <learath2> Uhhhhm, where do you get the "File not found"?
18:01 < bridge> <learath2> I'm guessing GetLastError
18:02 < bridge> <heinrich5991> yup, `GetLastError`
18:02 < bridge> <learath2> I'm afraid that's all I know aswell. You'll have to trace
18:03 < bridge> <learath2> API Monitor is the only tool I know for it
18:04 < bridge> <learath2> Or maybe you can intercept a couple file opening functions and hope you get lucky?
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> https://www.rohitab.com/apimonitor
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > Secure Connection Failed
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > 
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > An error occurred during a connection to www.rohitab.com. Peer using unsupported version of security protocol.
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > 
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > Error code: SSL_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED_VERSION
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > 
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> >     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> >     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > 
18:05 < bridge> <heinrich5991> > This website might not support the TLS 1.2 protocol, which is the minimum version supported by Firefox.
18:07 < bridge> <learath2> Apparently ProcMon can trace api calls too
18:08 < bridge> <learath2> Yeah, it's ancient 😭
18:08 < bridge> <learath2> Windows debugging tooling is all from a couple decades ago
18:08 < bridge> <ryozuki> average windows dev experience
18:08 < bridge> <heinrich5991> but the tooling is kinda nice, quite polished IME
18:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> whats ime
18:09 < bridge> <heinrich5991> in my experience
18:09 < bridge> <learath2> Windbg has a logger but idk if it ever became 64bit aware
18:09 < bridge> <heinrich5991> the certificate for rohitab.com also expired in 2020
18:09 < bridge> <learath2> Except for visual studio, what tooling is there even? Most everything is ancient broken tools
18:09 < bridge> <heinrich5991> how is that servers still online? ^^
18:10 < bridge> <heinrich5991> random tools from third parties that work nicely for what they do, also with polished UIs
18:10 < bridge> <heinrich5991> e.g. x64dbg
18:10 < bridge> <heinrich5991> or the .net decompiler whose name I forgot
18:11 < bridge> <learath2> Oh this one is a nice tool indeed
18:14 < bridge> <learath2> I'm honestly far more used to gdb, but I do see the charm to the nice ui
18:16 < bridge> <learath2> CFF Explorer is nice too now that I think about it
18:16 < bridge> <heinrich5991> how are we gonna fix up strace to work with uring btw?
18:17 < bridge> <learath2> On linux or without it I'm stuck with python and pefile, which is nice but definitely not as pretty and simple 😄
18:17 < bridge> <heinrich5991> what's cff explorer?
18:17 < bridge> <learath2> A PE file editor
18:17 < bridge> <heinrich5991> ah, nice 🙂
18:17 < bridge> <heinrich5991> does it work with obfuscated binaries?
18:18 < bridge> <learath2> I don't think there is any decent fix to it tbf
18:18 < bridge> <learath2> If it's a valid or atleast runnable PE file, it'll work. It's very aggressive. But it does crash if some kinds of binary trickery is employed
18:19 < bridge> <learath2> One bot client we encountered broke it. It's the ghidra PR I made 😄
18:19 < bridge> <learath2> It broke ghidra too
18:21 < bridge> <heinrich5991> ^^
19:20 < bridge> <deen> `objdump -p program.exe | grep "DLL Name:"` ?
19:25 < bridge> <reitw> using git bash u can simply do `ldd prog.exe`
19:25 < bridge> <reitw> ```
19:25 < bridge> <reitw> $ ldd DDNet.exe
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         ntdll.dll => /c/Windows/SYSTEM32/ntdll.dll (0x7ff832230000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         KERNEL32.DLL => /c/Windows/System32/KERNEL32.DLL (0x7ff830f60000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         KERNELBASE.dll => /c/Windows/System32/KERNELBASE.dll (0x7ff82f810000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         ADVAPI32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/ADVAPI32.dll (0x7ff831db0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         msvcrt.dll => /c/Windows/System32/msvcrt.dll (0x7ff831890000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         libcurl.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/libcurl.dll (0x7ff8104c0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         sechost.dll => /c/Windows/System32/sechost.dll (0x7ff830630000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         discord_game_sdk.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/discord_game_sdk.dll (0x7fffb8320000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         avcodec-60.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/avcodec-60.dll (0x7ff80f0e0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         CRYPT32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/CRYPT32.dll (0x7ff82fd10000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         WS2_32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/WS2_32.dll (0x7ff830ee0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         ole32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/ole32.dll (0x7ff830a70000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         RPCRT4.dll => /c/Windows/System32/RPCRT4.dll (0x7ff830d40000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         ucrtbase.dll => /c/Windows/System32/ucrtbase.dll (0x7ff82fbc0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         msvcp_win.dll => /c/Windows/System32/msvcp_win.dll (0x7ff82fe80000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         SHELL32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/SHELL32.dll (0x7ff831030000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         IMM32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/IMM32.dll (0x7ff830e70000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         GDI32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/GDI32.dll (0x7ff831ee0000)
19:25 < bridge> <reitw>         win32u.dll => /c/Windows/System32/win32u.dll (0x7ff82fce0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         USER32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/USER32.dll (0x7ff82ffa0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         gdi32full.dll => /c/Windows/System32/gdi32full.dll (0x7ff82f6f0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         avformat-60.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/avformat-60.dll (0x7ff810550000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         SHLWAPI.dll => /c/Windows/System32/SHLWAPI.dll (0x7ff830ce0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         combase.dll => /c/Windows/System32/combase.dll (0x7ff8306e0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         avutil-58.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/avutil-58.dll (0x7ff80f8d0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         swresample-4.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/swresample-4.dll (0x7ff8106a0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         swscale-7.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/swscale-7.dll (0x7ff810410000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         libfreetype.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/libfreetype.dll (0x7ff80f820000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         libopusfile.dll => /d/Games/DDNet/libopusfile.dll (0x7ff810650000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw> ```
19:26 < bridge> <reitw> $ ldd DDNet.exe
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         ntdll.dll => /c/Windows/SYSTEM32/ntdll.dll (0x7ff832230000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         KERNEL32.DLL => /c/Windows/System32/KERNEL32.DLL (0x7ff830f60000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         KERNELBASE.dll => /c/Windows/System32/KERNELBASE.dll (0x7ff82f810000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         ADVAPI32.dll => /c/Windows/System32/ADVAPI32.dll (0x7ff831db0000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw>         msvcrt.dll => /c/Windows/System32/msvcrt.dll (0x7ff831890000)
19:26 < bridge> <reitw> ...
19:26 < bridge> <reitw> ```
19:35 < bridge> <robyt3> I'm very confused about Windows. The client seems to consistently use 5-10 MB less RAM when I rename it to `DDNet_2.exe`
19:35 < bridge> <robyt3> My measurements for #7353 first made me think that using more threads makes the client use less RAM
19:35 < bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7353
19:36 < bridge> <robyt3> That `exe` has a different name, so somehow this influences the memory usage :pepeW:
19:57 < bridge> <MilkeeyCat> its the sign that ddnet 2 has to happen
21:57 < bridge> <Ewan> dependency walker
22:03 < bridge> <Ewan> oh sorry you found it already
22:41 < bridge> <teero777> Me rn
22:41 < bridge> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1163577448038940692/RDT_20231016_2241042502841654398182657.jpg?ex=654014f1&is=652d9ff1&hm=350948ac415d1c51ad86dd351274b8e8201058e02b0f11db8b18b63a56aa3468&