00:12 < bridge> Giga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhE5DTYpHk 00:24 < bridge> GIGA GANGSTER!!! 00:26 < bridge> GIGA GANGSTAR!!! 01:16 < bridge> oh i missed a convo 01:16 < bridge> i am also curious 01:20 < bridge> if u wanna change this game 01:20 < bridge> learn C++ 01:20 < bridge> and push forward ur changes 01:21 < bridge> thats how it is 01:27 < bridge> who u talking to 01:27 < bridge> discord reply feature is pretty cool 01:30 < bridge> nobody 01:30 < bridge> and everyone 01:30 < bridge> deep 01:33 < bridge> 🥗 01:50 < bridge> are u talking to baby whiny mod guy 01:50 < bridge> whats his fuck 01:50 < bridge> neben 02:23 < bridge> Can we use something like https://github.com/marketplace/actions/cache-apt-packages to improve the CI speed? 02:24 < bridge> Can we use something like to improve the CI speed? 03:43 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> Can I have the DDNet and KOG server images so I know what to base the community photo off of? @deen 03:54 < bridge> What server images? 04:04 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5654#issuecomment-1751845512 05:01 < bridge> Hmm, I was only able to find this logo here which has the same font. 05:01 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160411539052965888/1.png?ex=65349076&is=65221b76&hm=d11e8bd56f1fc31e006037be6e24318f85ddad9e9dee47e9fa6591de20011606& 05:02 < bridge> and the kog logo is probably this here: 05:02 < bridge> https://kog.tw/other/logo_white_long.svg 05:02 < bridge> and the kog logo is probably this one here: 05:02 < bridge> https://kog.tw/other/logo_white_long.svg 08:20 < bridge> When rewrite game in rust 09:07 < bridge> when a small group of volunteers decides to rewrite dozens of thousands of lines of code for pretty much no reason 09:20 < bridge> It's called a revolution! 09:20 < bridge> for what 09:20 < bridge> idk they don't think stuff is going well and also think they could fix it 09:37 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> but WHY 09:37 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet works just fine 10:16 < bridge> because its fun is a valid reason 10:16 < bridge> :gigachad: 10:17 < bridge> this is a very important broadcast 10:17 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160491144220782642/IMG_2829.JPG?ex=6534da99&is=65226599&hm=0093fe1f09a8e23390fd3e6a0c5e512036c22698339cb92d97b3623eb8def13b& 10:17 < bridge> also relevant 10:17 < bridge> she is a developer 10:23 < ChillerDragon> so important that it is discord only? 10:24 < ChillerDragon> ah its a img my bad thought its a message link xd 10:24 < bridge> is the damn signature thing already in effect 10:24 < ChillerDragon> wot signature 10:26 < bridge> discord is adding request signatures to their cdn content 10:26 < bridge> so it expires and maybe can only be viewed on their client 10:26 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ok then do it 10:26 < bridge> special params at the end of an upload link 10:27 < bridge> discord as a file host was fun while it lasted 10:27 < bridge> I’ve uploaded more than my fair share of 100MB 7z archive segments 10:27 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> if ddnet rust rewrite happens i wonder how many changes would happen 10:27 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> like, secret updates 10:28 < bridge> wdym 10:28 < bridge> refactors? 10:28 < bridge> or like telemetry 10:29 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i mean checking off the issues page 10:30 < bridge> probably not much since that would require amazing coordination 10:30 < bridge> i thought parsing the demo file would de the hardest part and rendering that data would be piece of piss. after ive looked at how ddnet does that shit, i think itd be a good idea to rename ddnet-web-demo renderer into demo parser in js :justatest: 10:31 < bridge> :owo: 10:31 < bridge> fred hire me to make video games 10:32 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> some days i wish i could inject c++ into my brain so i know how to make good updates for once 10:32 < bridge> it’s not necessarily about cpp 10:34 < bridge> i'm poor 10:34 < bridge> it’s about understanding principles which the code is based on, and the code/its relationships with other parts of itself, and implementation details like whether to use method a or b for whatever 10:35 < bridge> seeing a big code project as just some code in some language is really a harmful and narrow view 10:35 < ChillerDragon> wot no more free cdn 10:35 < bridge> hi chiller 10:35 < ChillerDragon> hi china 10:35 < bridge> miss me yet? 10:35 < ChillerDragon> yes veri 10:35 < bridge> catxplosion 10:35 < ChillerDragon> xd 10:36 < bridge> hru chiller 10:36 < ChillerDragon> gau? 10:36 < ChillerDragon> thats not a thing is it 10:36 < bridge> que 10:36 < ChillerDragon> watafak is que 10:36 < bridge> spanish for what the hell are u talking about 10:36 < bridge> I just drank some monster at 4pm 10:36 < bridge> probably a bad idea 10:36 < ChillerDragon> how are you, good and you 10:36 < bridge> bad idea fred 10:37 < bridge> oh cool new acronym acquired 10:37 < bridge> when you guys realize voice chat in client + server? 😄 10:37 < ChillerDragon> i made it up idk 10:37 < bridge> never 10:37 < bridge> bad idea 10:37 < bridge> not bad idea bro 10:37 < bridge> if you talk close at tee 10:37 < bridge> not like for all area 10:37 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i guess thats true 10:37 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i just dream about being able to make anything i want but coding is so `hard` 10:37 < bridge> it would be worse than cod lobbies 10:37 < bridge> nah 10:37 < bridge> you can use dc :poggers2: 10:37 < bridge> coding is easy. developing is hard 10:37 < bridge> bruh native voice in game is better 10:37 < bridge> I already pay so much for bandwidth 10:37 < bridge> planning n shit 10:38 < bridge> its interesting thing, voice if you close at tee 10:38 < bridge> like if they far you don't hear him 10:38 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ppl r gonna micspan 10:38 < bridge> its fixable with mute voice thing 10:38 < bridge> in table mute 10:38 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> imagine how big teehistorian would be with audio storage :justatest: 10:38 < bridge> also protocols and stuff. very hard to make changes without devs yelling at each others 10:38 < bridge> i think its be good integration if its be on ddnet&kog 10:38 < bridge> if it ever comes to ddnet it’ll probably be a reclaimed change from something downstream 10:39 < bridge> some sketchy block server’s implementation or smth 10:39 < bridge> i can try help with it 10:39 < bridge> nope you won't 10:39 < bridge> learn cpp and implement 10:39 < bridge> learn cpp and implement it 10:39 < bridge> its only need realize another mini voice server 10:39 < bridge> make a discord bot or plugin or something 10:40 < bridge> 10:40 < bridge> discord its another shit 10:40 < bridge> but voice native in game better 10:40 < bridge> its communication 10:41 < bridge> idc, it's more cost, more mantanaince, more moderation, more reports, more human resources wastes 10:41 < bridge> im play this 15-16 years, and no any haven't tried to implement this 10:41 < bridge> technically it wouldn’t be super hard since opus is already an integral part of the game’s audio and the entire audio input pipeline is already supported by the libs already in use by ddnet. ppl just don’t see a need for it. use discord or smth 10:41 < bridge> its noneed mod at start, its no need at first try make perfect system 10:42 < bridge> you'll be surprised 10:42 < bridge> i mean, need to start small 10:42 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i dont wanna hear teenagers yelling and throwing slurs in voice chat on a blocker server 10:42 < bridge> guys think about it 10:43 < bridge> ew block 10:43 < bridge> its really funny 10:43 < bridge> and cool new communication things 10:43 < bridge> it attracts more people 10:43 < bridge> i also don't want to hear about people reporting about yelling at each other for miniscule issuse 10:43 < bridge> and you can benefit from this 10:43 < bridge> why 10:43 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> if we cant make fun of kog we cant make fun of block 10:43 < bridge> so we can spend more money on useless features in a free game? 10:43 < bridge> i can make fun of both 10:44 < bridge> no money need 10:44 < bridge> lmao 10:44 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> @ heinr 10:44 < bridge> enthusiasm is everything, that’s what the game was all about 10:44 < bridge> this whole game was made thanks to the community and ideas 10:44 < bridge> do servers run on enthusiasm 10:44 < bridge> :thonk: 10:45 < bridge> what are you talking about 10:45 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> if u WANT voice chat, add it in yourself. 10:45 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> its open source btw 10:46 < bridge> i mean, to much proggers in tw, developed this game 10:46 < bridge> cool, but for it need some peoples 10:46 < bridge> to divide the task 10:47 < bridge> not really 10:47 < bridge> no one is gonna work on it 10:47 < bridge> a solo dev with the right idea could do it in a week 10:47 < bridge> it would just be a shitshow 10:47 < bridge> this is pessimism from your side 10:48 < bridge> that's your opinion 10:48 < bridge> and it is wrong 10:48 < bridge> then do it yourself and get rejected and becomes a fork or something, see if i care 10:48 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> so salty 10:49 < bridge> he gives no fucks rn 10:49 < bridge> i just ate some really salty fish soup 10:49 < bridge> it checks out 10:49 < bridge> thug life 10:49 < bridge> you should never think that it will be a fork, because without trying, you won't know for sure 10:50 < bridge> you will need to fork it to work on it anyway 10:50 < bridge> it's not just me if you haven't get the memo 10:50 < bridge> u expecting a mailing list or smth xd 10:50 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160499487463194725/the_guy_from_up.jpg?ex=6534e25e&is=65226d5e&hm=95739caac6c5ba5bf29b84904f9df103de1a3879da3cd7257989574b12666d42& 10:50 < bridge> the linus workflow 10:51 < bridge> geezer 10:53 < bridge> :owo: 10:53 < bridge> @_voxeldoesart zwelf has a poc in rust of ddnet 10:53 < bridge> Don't yell at me plz 10:53 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> :frozen: 10:54 < bridge> Duzzint Matter 10:54 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i mean not gonna lie 10:54 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> if the entire server side code turns into rust itd be kinda cool 10:54 < bridge> We’re all star dust in the end 10:54 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> im not stardust im human 10:55 < bridge> Everything ever is star dust 10:55 < bridge> cool, also it's a nice way to prevent me from working on the source code ever 10:55 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> whats your point 10:55 < bridge> not that I work on anything really 10:55 < bridge> xd, this is not us excluding u, its u exlucding urself voluntarely 10:55 < bridge> i'm very aware of that 10:56 < bridge> i just suck at learning new stuff 10:56 < bridge> thats too bad 10:56 < bridge> cuz with rust u learn new things 10:56 < bridge> ye 10:56 < bridge> i wish i just can just quit my job and have fun 10:56 < bridge> and i dont wanna sound weird, but rust has its "hype" for a reason 10:56 < bridge> same speed as C with the borrow checker 10:57 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> learning new things for me starts with learning patterns 10:57 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> its how i learned ddnet code 10:57 < bridge> its why it excites ppl who care about systems languages 10:57 < bridge> its a new game 10:57 < bridge> Eventually we will all be compressed into oil and coal and the people of 3.002.023 AD will be wondering how they can rebuild their 5d sphere game in the newest telekinetic programming language 10:57 < bridge> i learned c++ via teeworlds 10:57 < bridge> same 10:57 < bridge> but i was like 17 10:57 < bridge> but i didnt stop at that 10:57 < bridge> i'm 28 now bruh 10:57 < bridge> i was 14 :poggers2: 10:57 < bridge> im 23 10:58 < bridge> i keep learning 10:58 < bridge> I’m 57 10:58 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> wjat 10:58 < bridge> age is no excuse lol 10:58 < bridge> ye 10:58 < bridge> but if you work 15hr jobs 10:58 < bridge> but its true for now u dont rly need to learn anything 10:58 < bridge> if it works for ur job 10:58 < bridge> how would you learn 10:58 < bridge> You need time to learn 😄 10:58 < bridge> lmao 10:58 < bridge> but well cwait 20 years and i think u will have to put some effort 10:58 < bridge> @ 10:58 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i got ddnet hooked when i was 17 :justatest: 10:59 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> im 21 10:59 < bridge> i wanna be alive when C is obsolete and ppl think of it like fortran or cobol rn 10:59 < bridge> i wanna be alive right now 10:59 < bridge> it will not happen in my lifetime 10:59 < bridge> cuz the econemy is killing us lmao 10:59 < bridge> this is always the case at any point in time 10:59 < bridge> lol 10:59 < bridge> also i just skipped my job today 10:59 < bridge> i never heard the news in tv "economy is doing well!" 11:00 < bridge> If C has 3 fans, I'm one of them. 11:00 < bridge> If C has 1 fan, it is me. 11:00 < bridge> If C has no fans, I've died. 11:00 < bridge> i think i'm crazy 11:00 < bridge> xd 11:00 < bridge> I would go to school if 11:00 < bridge> wait until you see chinese national media 11:00 < bridge> :justatest: 11:00 < bridge> it's "doing very well" here expect for all other countries 11:00 < bridge> oh shit the irclog 11:01 < bridge> It has been a true honor knowing you 11:01 < bridge> https://github.com/ClementTsang/bottom 11:01 < bridge> https://tenor.com/view/prayingforyou-prayer-prayers-healing-gif-5924151060084056949 11:01 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160502275995877517/image.png?ex=6534e4f7&is=65226ff7&hm=b70a6deaee5278d460017f7fa6c600872bf9d1b7a4c32a869a9b6c18c94cb375& 11:02 < bridge> what’s this 11:02 < ChillerDragon> 0.7 skins gonna be great 11:02 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1696755711.png 11:02 < bridge> Explain 11:02 < bridge> he chinese 11:02 < bridge> censorship 11:02 < bridge> logs 11:02 < bridge> Premier Xi is watching 11:02 < bridge> i'm exposing myself 11:02 < bridge> Your government assigned babysitter is going to put you in time out? 11:02 < bridge> america vs china 11:03 < bridge> GO 11:03 < bridge> xd 11:03 < bridge> Wdym 11:03 < bridge> meanwhile eu watching: :owo: 11:03 < bridge> This one is easy. China >>> America. No need discussion 11:03 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> cant wait for rzqa to be the only active 0.7 user here 11:03 < bridge> Chiller also plays 0.7 11:03 < bridge> copium 11:03 < bridge> he plays chillerbot-0.69 11:04 < bridge> True 11:04 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160502886074167406/image.png?ex=6534e589&is=65227089&hm=01f99a91c6e965a2879d0292500819a264bffe040595e698d77f14421a686006& 11:04 < bridge> bruh, the model knows 11:04 < bridge> other than the "popular" part i guess 11:04 < bridge> still very vague tho 11:04 < bridge> only about teeworlds cuz old 11:04 < bridge> not ddnet 11:04 < bridge> 11:05 < bridge> I guess it is sort of popular among the list of games that are open source 😄 11:05 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160503250366234674/image.png?ex=6534e5df&is=652270df&hm=2446930effea55080a8bda9b0e41bde8dff8e6bcab8a87e67e8c999085fc59df& 11:05 < bridge> kinda sucks how that’s why people know it lol 11:05 < bridge> ye, language model moment 11:05 < bridge> ‘Oh it’s that linnicks game’ 11:05 < bridge> why does it suck 11:06 < bridge> better the game be known for how good it is rather than filling a niche need 11:07 < bridge> the game should be popular because it’s good period not cuz oss 11:07 < bridge> fair, but I don't think it matters that much 11:07 < bridge> but ppl want graphics 11:07 < bridge> I wonder if it has any data about it actually or is just hoping you asked because there is a relationship 11:07 < bridge> Ask it if it knows of any relationship between ddracenetwork and cheese 11:07 < bridge> do language models really know about any data? 11:07 < bridge> ask if it knows who i am 11:07 < bridge> ddnet is among the open source game with highest concurrent players 11:08 < bridge> terraria? 11:08 < bridge> it only competes with that game thats gpl 11:08 < bridge> i forgor the name 11:08 < bridge> It's training set is in some vague sense of storage is stored in the weights 11:08 < bridge> its all numbers 11:08 < bridge> float numbers 11:08 < bridge> 0.1 02 11:08 < bridge> 0.2 11:08 < bridge> INT numbers in this case tho 11:08 < bridge> it's a quantized model 11:09 < bridge> wat r u talking about 11:09 < bridge> running on CPU as well 11:09 < bridge> oh 11:09 < bridge> isnt it slow 11:09 < bridge> it's ok, 11:09 < bridge> or is it smol 11:09 < bridge> it's 9GB 11:09 < bridge> so not that huge 11:09 < bridge> thats what she said 11:09 < bridge> It's afaik impossible to take the data back out though, so "storage" might not be the best word 11:09 < bridge> also RWKV has low complexity i guess 11:09 < bridge> I’d expect response time to be about the same as the online interface 11:10 < bridge> doesn’t have to juggle 10000 concurrent requests among its resource pool 11:10 < bridge> even if cpu is way slower 11:10 < bridge> It's probably a little bit slower than chatGPT 11:10 < bridge> knowing fred’s hardware that is lol 11:10 < bridge> no internet required tho 11:10 < bridge> yea 11:11 < bridge> and it is the largest model I can find for RWKV 11:11 < bridge> Can it write code? 11:11 < bridge> probably 11:11 < bridge> Ask it for a C fizzbuzz 11:11 < bridge> whats RWKV 11:11 < bridge> This model is fine-tuned for chinese 11:11 < bridge> ah 11:11 < bridge> Xi approved? 11:11 < bridge> i think it's trying it's best for english 11:11 < bridge> :pepeW: 11:11 < bridge> nah, just the model trainer is chinese, so he released a fune-tuned model 11:11 < bridge> dont u have problems with AI and censorship there 11:11 < bridge> what if it says something about taiwan numba 1 11:12 < bridge> Oh, interesting 11:12 < bridge> also I think this model might not be legal cuz they do train it against openai 11:12 < bridge> 11:12 < bridge> it even tried to tell you that it's trained by openai only because the training set is so weird 11:12 < bridge> 11:12 < bridge> I’m telling big brother 11:12 < bridge> you’re gonna be grohnded 11:13 < bridge> grounded 11:13 < bridge> and it breaks and is repeating stuff now 11:13 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1160505129125036082/image.png?ex=6534e79f&is=6522729f&hm=d3f9db82ebb96cac4c241d02bb4a4336ae82a39bd5ac184fc9ff1ade5c327667& 11:13 < bridge> this model really likes to just repeat stuff if the context is lost 11:13 < bridge> very relevant to cheese 11:13 < bridge> Interesting behaviour 11:13 < bridge> i remember chat gpt doing that 11:13 < bridge> I can’t type for shit on my phone keyboard 11:13 < bridge> ye i think chatGPT some time does that as well? 11:14 < bridge> > Question: Do you know the chinese name for Teeworlds? 11:14 < bridge> > Answer: The Chinese name for Teeworlds is 太空侵略者 (Tiānchóng Zìzhǔ zhě). 11:14 < bridge> that's space invader 11:14 < bridge> it's a video game alright 11:14 < bridge> also the pinyin is completely wrong 11:14 < bridge> Is there a chinese name for teeworlds btw? 11:15 < bridge> no 11:15 < bridge> we tried so hard to come up with one for years 11:15 < bridge> there is one for ddnet sort of 11:15 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> worlds of tee 11:15 < bridge> just because it's more popular and people just started to call it whatever 11:15 < bridge> why have alternate names for stuff 11:15 < bridge> tee isn't really a thing you can say in chinese and make it sound good tho 11:15 < bridge> we call chinese shit as it’s called there. at least we try to 11:16 < bridge> people calls ddnet "the bean people" people in the sense of any character. 11:16 < bridge> i had dim sum for lunch 11:16 < bridge> it kinda sucked 11:16 < bridge> it's the same spelling in pinyin phonetically to DDR 11:17 < bridge> DouDouRen 豆豆人 11:18 < bridge> also fallguys was quite popular at the same time, which is 糖豆人, which is also the sweet bean people lmao 11:18 < bridge> Chi is I guess the best you can do 11:18 < bridge> oh no that sound so bad 11:18 < bridge> chiworlds 11:18 < bridge> we have Ti 11:18 < bridge> 1v1 me on oblock 11:18 < bridge> it's sounds just like tee 11:18 < bridge> but it does not sound like a noun 11:19 < bridge> or a character 11:19 < bridge> Oh, hm 11:20 < bridge> okay i have to go to bed now 11:20 < bridge> 踢 is kick. 提 is give. 体 is body or physical. 涕 is tear or snot. 替 is replacement. 题 is question. 屉 is drawer. 11:20 < bridge> all of them sounds like tee 11:20 < bridge> send me role details by mornin mg fred 11:20 < bridge> none of them really works for anything 11:21 < bridge> Dozens of options for wa and not one fits any of these to make a ti wa? 😄 11:22 < bridge> we are not japanese 11:23 < bridge> i'm pretty sure it'll be something world, where the something part is the hard part 11:23 < bridge> You don't have dozens of options for wa? 11:24 < bridge> it has to be something sekai so you know what i'm talking about 11:25 < bridge> Oh, I thought you'd want it to sound similar, since tee doesnt really have much of a meaning 11:25 < bridge> ye 11:25 < bridge> if it doesn't have any meaning then it could use the sound 11:25 < bridge> but none of the ti sound works. world has a translation tho so that part would be translated 11:25 < bridge> also i think wa has even less options 11:26 < bridge> Well good luck, it's hard to name stuff, much much harder when translating stuff 11:27 < bridge> wa is just an onomatopoeia, tiles, digging and valorant and that's about it 11:27 < bridge> oh and bady 11:27 < bridge> oh and baby 11:27 < bridge> frog 11:27 < bridge> well i guess there are a few 11:27 < bridge> lol 11:27 < bridge> Give frog? 11:27 < bridge> :kek: 11:27 < bridge> very weird 11:28 < bridge> Kick frog? 11:28 < bridge> just call it ball world 11:28 < bridge> oh there's a translation for gores as well 11:28 < bridge> just not for teeworlds i guess 11:28 < bridge> intestines 11:28 < bridge> really hard for teeworlds 11:29 < bridge> 勾累死 gouleisi it just sounds like gores and it mean "hook until you die of exhaustion" 11:29 < bridge> I guess if you give up on having it sound close at all you can just call it ballworld and call it a day 11:29 < bridge> damn that’s a dense name 11:29 < bridge> That actually fits perfectly wow 11:29 < bridge> ddr already took that name 11:30 < bridge> which sucks more lol 11:30 < bridge> ball race network 11:30 < bridge> dummy drag race network but chinese 11:30 < bridge> dummy is a hard word for chinese 11:31 < bridge> the meaning is really weird for chinese, cuz it's just not a common vocab 11:31 < bridge> even in ddnet translation we swap dummies with clones/doppelganger even tho that is not technically what it is 11:33 < bridge> we have a translation for dummy but people only thinks of scarecrow or manikins 11:34 < bridge> Hm, I'm unsure whether dummy is the correct word in english for what the dummy does even 11:35 < bridge> it was until dummy control was a thing i guess? 11:35 < bridge> there were server dummies before i think 13:47 < bridge> @deen do u remember whats the oldest distro we support 13:47 < bridge> debian? 13:47 < bridge> 10? 13:47 < bridge> i wanna know the oldest rust version we need to support 13:48 < bridge> Rust stable is fine I think 13:48 < bridge> stable debian is 1.61 13:48 < bridge> @deen but i recall heinrich caring a lot 13:48 < bridge> idk why 13:48 < bridge> he wants pppl to compile with package manager rust 13:48 < bridge> Anyway, what do you want to do with rust? 13:49 < bridge> i want to update masterserver deps and try to fix https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6955 13:49 < bridge> Then do it without updating rust version? 13:49 < bridge> but i also want to update it 13:49 < bridge> xd 13:49 < bridge> except if you run into a specific feature you require 13:49 < bridge> but why not update the deps 13:50 < bridge> Because then we get complaints from people running old rust 13:50 < bridge> then i tell them to update 13:50 < bridge> :brownbear: 13:50 < bridge> > On older distributions `rustc` version might be too old, to get an up-to-date Rust compiler you can use [rustup](https://rustup.rs/) with stable channel instead or try the `rustc-mozilla` package. 13:50 < bridge> we even mention thjis on readme 13:50 < bridge> ok ima update 13:51 < bridge>