07:49 < bridge> what's the best value second hand amd gpu rn 08:09 < bridge> thursday vulkan 08:10 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks i heard shader/graphics modders complian about vulkan games harder to mod due to pipeline stuff (they are used to mod dx11) is that true? 08:13 < bridge> 6600 xt or 6700 maybe 08:15 < bridge> thoughts 08:15 < bridge> 08:15 < bridge> $125 usd 08:15 < bridge> + free ship 08:17 < bridge> considering buying a xeon e-2288g for the old motherboard. basically a 9900k but the xeon version 08:17 < bridge> so needs ecc and doesn't have igpu. fine by me 08:17 < bridge> found some for ~$180 on ebay as well 08:32 < bridge> this reminds me since i finally go live alone i wanna setup my own home server 08:33 < bridge> ill use gentoo or nixos probs and use distcc to help compile the server pkgs with my main pc 08:34 < bridge> who's ready for minegrub? 08:34 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154304741686378496/RDT_20230920_135641630584556067743668.jpg 08:51 < bridge> nice 08:51 < bridge> what i'd do is probably dualboot macOS & clear linux or some shit with opencore 08:51 < bridge> because i'm sick of needing macOS for singleton tasks and getting my 2009 imac out of the closet 08:51 < bridge> and waiting for its horrible hard drive 08:51 < bridge> and whatnot 09:10 < bridge> i have a work m1 so its not a problem for me 09:15 < bridge> nice 09:20 < bridge> trying to make a static build of qt 6.5 on msys 09:20 < bridge> this is no man's land 09:20 < bridge> wish me luck 09:30 < bridge> gl 09:30 < bridge> shouldnt u go sleep 09:30 < bridge> yeah 09:30 < bridge> my sheets are in the dryer and it's been going for hours 09:30 < bridge> i told my mom i think the vent is plugged but she says it's just too wet and i shouldw ait 09:31 < bridge> as long as there's no fire i guess it's fine for now 09:31 < bridge> :justatest: 09:31 < bridge> it's been like 4 hours now 09:31 < bridge> and it's just floppping around 09:31 < bridge> hot wet sheets and blanket 09:32 < bridge> isnt it hot there 09:32 < bridge> where 09:32 < bridge> usa? 09:32 < bridge> u live 09:32 < bridge> really depends 09:33 < bridge> it's hot during daytime because it's summer for the western hemisphere, but it's getting cold now 09:33 < bridge> especially at night 09:33 < bridge> entering fall 09:33 < bridge> its funny cuz western is relative 09:33 < bridge> asia could be western 09:33 < bridge> from their poc 09:33 < bridge> pov 09:33 < bridge> yea it's a rly stupid naming system 09:33 < bridge> but this is the western hemisphere 09:34 < bridge> and who decided Australia is upside down 09:34 < bridge> and not us 09:34 < bridge> yeah idk 09:34 < bridge> If they don't use dynamic rendering, yes 09:35 < bridge> With renderpasses u are very aware of your dependencies 09:35 < bridge> what triggers me is that they call vulkan bad cuz it makes their life harder 09:35 < bridge> This is good for more performance xd 09:35 < bridge> i'm hoping to use my fluent design Qt code + static linking and LTOs to make an app installer for Windows that looks native but is a fraction of the size of the XAML islands counterpart & doesn't require signing etc 09:35 < bridge> Yeah, nobos xd 09:35 < bridge> ffxiv 09:36 < bridge> uses dx11 09:36 < bridge> but they wanna upgrade graphics 09:36 < bridge> idk if dx12 or vulkan 09:36 < bridge> but apparently dx12 is low level like vulkan 09:36 < bridge> Vulkan introduced dynamic rendering specifically for when u just want to create game more easily.. more similar to opengl 09:37 < bridge> and they crybabies 09:37 < bridge> Yes dx12 is similar 09:39 < bridge> qt docs about static builds are really shitty in general so i don't know if i can use the current cmake integration to use my own libs or not 09:39 < bridge> for now i'm just raw dogging it per se but im running into issues with macros n stuff 09:39 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks prepare tomorrow rust question 09:40 < bridge> @reitw asked me interesting things in dm, maybe next time put it in this chabnel 09:42 < bridge> yup 09:48 < bridge> About rust? 09:49 < bridge> You should also get a FFR activist like me 09:49 < bridge> 😬 10:00 < bridge> https://boredengineer.medium.com/25-gbit-s-at-home-part-1-98ff1013e32d 10:09 < bridge> oh 10:10 < bridge> maybe i can make the server act as a router too 10:12 < bridge> just when i thought i had it 10:12 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154329378482835486/5gq7dgtLKR.mp4 10:13 < bridge> i forgot to pause my music 10:16 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154330308083200100/README 10:16 < bridge> nice readme guys 10:16 < bridge> damn it doesn't embed 10:16 < bridge> ``` 10:16 < bridge> If this directory is empty, you probably forgot to compile the Qt library. 10:16 < bridge> ``` 10:55 < bridge> https://without.boats/blog/generic-trait-methods-and-new-auto-traits/ 10:57 < bridge> i got it to compile with my bullshit cmake 10:58 < bridge> 35MB exe with dumb linker and without LTOs 10:58 < bridge> not too shabby 10:58 < bridge> lto should reduce size tm 10:59 < bridge> yep 10:59 < bridge> why r u on windows 10:59 < bridge> but it is hard to set up with Qt 10:59 < bridge> it works for me 10:59 < bridge> so u left gentoo 10:59 < bridge> u cant be in the club 10:59 < bridge> oh well 10:59 < bridge> :BASEDHALT: 11:00 < bridge> yea like a week ago exactly i thought man this install is driving me nuts 11:00 < bridge> so i made a windows install medium and installed right over the gentoo. no backup 11:00 < bridge> and ever since i've been living large 11:00 < bridge> things have been working 11:00 < bridge> 2 bad 11:00 < bridge> i guess u need more linux xp 11:00 < bridge> so what if i do 11:00 < bridge> stuff is working 11:00 < bridge> dont be angry i didnt mean it bad 11:01 < bridge> o 11:01 < bridge> why not try linux mint 11:01 < bridge> i've used mint 11:01 < bridge> and i used arch for 2 years 😃 11:01 < bridge> i never used it 11:01 < bridge> it wasn't the gentooisms that were driving me nuts 11:01 < bridge> it was the linuxisms 11:01 < bridge> arch is considerably more easy than gentoo 11:01 < bridge> yeah 11:01 < bridge> it is 11:02 < bridge> and now probs even easier 11:02 < bridge> they made like a auto installer 11:02 < bridge> with python smh 11:02 < bridge> oh cool 11:02 < bridge> is it official 11:02 < bridge> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/archinstall 11:02 < bridge> seems neat 11:03 < bridge> my bullshit 11:03 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154342226655195219/image.png 11:04 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154342260977176588/image.png 11:04 < bridge> new bg 11:04 < bridge> it's still bringing in the qt cmake functions for some stuff but mostly it's raw 11:05 < bridge> Send just an image so i can yoink it 11:05 < bridge> my old bg 11:05 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154342627873919106/background.png 11:06 < bridge> https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/desktop%20wallpaper/artworks?s_mode=s_tag 11:06 < bridge> https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/desktop%20wallpaper/artworks?s_mode=s_tag&ai_type=1 this without ai images 11:06 < bridge> u probs need a account 11:07 < bridge> A gg 11:07 < bridge> I need to setup wifi first :pepeW: 11:17 < bridge> lmfao the riced out i3 setup 11:17 < bridge> been here as well 11:19 < bridge> its hardly riced 11:20 < bridge> mine was 11:20 < bridge> and ive been use ng this since forever 11:20 < bridge> i used to "rice" it 11:20 < bridge> but maintaining suckwd 11:20 < bridge> so i embraced simplicity 11:20 < bridge> yea 11:35 < bridge> animated? 11:37 < bridge> nah 11:38 < bridge> it has to not be too distracting 11:38 < bridge> so i can read terminal 11:38 < bridge> and look at weeb pix 11:38 < bridge> pic 11:57 < bridge> lol 12:04 < bridge> im close but i'm having bad errors 12:08 < bridge> the Windows platform plugin is having these undefined references 12:08 < bridge> BrotliDecoderDecompress (by proxy of freetype) 12:08 < bridge> WindowsCreateStringReference 12:08 < bridge> RoGetActivationFactory 12:08 < bridge> the first one i have no idea how to deal with since, as freetype is being linked against statically, it should then be linking brotli statically; but i have no static brotli on my system even with the pkg installed 12:09 < bridge> the latter two seem to be msvcrt functions which i obviously can't link against statically 12:15 < bridge> too bad ur among linux enthusiasts 12:47 < bridge> More like extremists 😬 12:48 < bridge> Gentoo can do 13:34 < bridge> Already have it installed 13:34 < bridge> At work :issou: 13:55 < bridge> o2 14:03 < bridge> 😬 15:04 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks does wayland still force vsync 15:04 < bridge> is it working nice with sdl2? 15:09 < bridge> The new mesa will finally allow no vsync 16:32 < bridge> <0nathan47> hey i am looking for the offsets of the game because i want to do a deeplearning bot for myself. Can you help me to have it ? thanks 16:37 < bridge> no botting 16:55 < bridge> no botting 16:58 < bridge> no botting 16:58 < bridge> its funny to ask that for a open source game too 17:00 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154432004016844860/rust-remover.png 17:00 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks 17:16 < bridge> #1 thing u will never need 😬 17:28 < bridge> <0nathan47> as i said its for a project for school 17:28 < bridge> @ryozuki can i run startx automatically when i log in after starting pc? :justatest: 17:28 < bridge> <0nathan47> not for cheat + it will be only in local not on public servers 17:28 < bridge> yed loo 17:28 < bridge> lol 17:28 < bridge> i sent u my xinitrc and bash profile 17:29 < bridge> <0nathan47> who 17:29 < bridge> Oh 17:29 < bridge> :p 17:30 < bridge> RL or ML ? 17:31 < bridge> <0nathan47> ML 17:31 < bridge> sry I meant RL or UnSL or SL? 17:33 < bridge> <0nathan47> I only need the offsets of the game ( i didnt said but its for a friend cuz of its school project) idk what RL or UnSL or SL mean 😅 17:34 < bridge> <0nathan47> he told me for the offsets 17:34 < bridge> Reinforcement learning, Unsupervised learning, Supervised learning 17:34 < bridge> btw what do you mean offsets? 17:35 < bridge> <0nathan47> reinforcement learning 17:35 < bridge> <0nathan47> sec i will tell him to come here cuz im dumb 17:36 < bridge> <0nathan47> @dupeishere 17:36 < bridge> <0nathan47> he need to wait 10min for talk 17:37 < bridge> <0nathan47> @mr.gh0s7 can u dm him 17:37 < bridge> <0nathan47> its dupe 17:37 < bridge> ok 17:38 < bridge> <0nathan47> ty 17:40 < bridge> what offsets 17:40 < bridge> memory offsets? 17:40 < bridge> bro 17:40 < bridge> just compile the game 17:41 < bridge> u have the source code 17:41 < bridge> "hey give me offsets i wanna make a client side bot" in the dev channel that wants to fight against bots 17:41 < bridge> i wonder if common sense exists 17:42 < bridge> yeah I don't know either xD 17:44 < bridge> <0nathan47> yes 17:44 < bridge> <0nathan47> yes thats it 17:44 < bridge> well the answer is 17:44 < bridge> find them urself 17:44 < bridge> <0nathan47> .. 17:44 < bridge> have fun 17:44 < bridge> <0nathan47> my friend asked for them cuz its hard to find 17:44 < bridge> <0nathan47> so 17:45 < bridge> <0nathan47> if anyone found them 17:45 < bridge> <0nathan47> maybe @fokkonaut or chillerdragon: 17:45 < bridge> im telling you 17:45 < bridge> where's chads here we compile it from source code :kek: 17:45 < bridge> THE GAME IS OPEN SOURCE 17:45 < bridge> we's chads here we compile it from source code :kek: 17:45 < bridge> <0nathan47> ik 17:45 < bridge> we're chads here we compile it from source code :kek: 17:45 < bridge> <0nathan47> reading time : 17:46 < bridge> <0nathan47> my friend dont know how to find the offsets 17:46 < bridge> <0nathan47> thats why he is asking for it 17:46 < bridge> What if he/they are completely new to ddnet codebase, giving them a hint wont kill u right? 17:47 < bridge> actually 17:47 < bridge> they are asking stuff that is on a level where understanding ddnet code should be trivial 17:48 < bridge> the fact they are asking means they probs dont know what they doing 17:48 < bridge> <0nathan47> we are asking to learn 17:48 < bridge> well this is not a reverse engineering discord 17:48 < bridge> <0nathan47> tell us how to find the we will do it by ourself 17:48 < bridge> no 17:48 < bridge> go find a tutorial 17:48 < bridge> <0nathan47> tell us how to find then we will do it by ourself 17:48 < bridge> on how to find memory offsets 17:48 < bridge> generally 17:49 < bridge> then u apply that knowledge here 17:49 < bridge> <0nathan47> .. 17:49 < bridge> If I ask it's because I don't know how to do it, I understood that it was open source but that's not my question 17:49 < bridge> ill give u a hint 17:49 < bridge> ur probs on windows 17:49 < bridge> use cheat engine 17:49 < bridge> find a tutorial 17:49 < bridge> on how to find offsets with that program 17:49 < bridge> I know you have to use it but if I ask I don't know how to do it 17:51 < bridge> <0nathan47> we will see for thats thank you 17:51 < bridge> u find resources in the internet 17:51 < bridge> I am a dev not a reverse engineer 17:51 < bridge> same 17:51 < bridge> but u want to do RE stuff 17:51 < bridge> what u are or not doesnt matter 17:51 < bridge> u go and learn 17:51 < bridge> to my knowledge there are no RE experts here 17:51 < bridge> <0nathan47> teach us ig 17:51 < bridge> im not an expert 17:51 < bridge> <0nathan47> thats not a problem if you know how to find them 17:51 < bridge> me neither, that’s why I’m asking you for help 17:51 < bridge> i dont know much either 17:51 < bridge> but i already gave u pointers 17:52 < bridge> cheat engine and find tutorials 17:52 < bridge> <0nathan47> maybe fokkonaut or chillerdragon will know ? 17:52 < bridge> i highly doubt 17:52 < bridge> Doubt 17:52 < bridge> <0nathan47> what does doubt mean 17:52 < bridge> that i think they dont know either 17:52 < bridge> <0nathan47> ah 17:52 < bridge> reverse engineering is quite niche knowledge 17:52 < bridge> i know 17:52 < bridge> and ppl usually dont teach 17:52 < bridge> but i wont tell 17:52 < bridge> xd 17:52 < bridge> <0nathan47> why 17:52 < bridge> <0nathan47> bruh 17:52 < bridge> Lol 17:52 < bridge> but the thing is 17:52 < bridge> why u want offsets at all 17:52 < bridge> just modify the source code 17:53 < bridge> true 17:53 < bridge> <0nathan47> to do a deeplearning bot on ddnet for a school project 17:53 < bridge> for example 17:53 < bridge> xdd 17:53 < bridge> a tip 17:53 < bridge> he doesnt know what open source means 17:53 < bridge> <0nathan47> finish a gores map 17:53 < bridge> <0nathan47> by itself 17:53 < bridge> its heavily system dependent so u have to figure it out, depending on windows or linux 17:54 < bridge> find the program base address in code 17:54 < bridge> <0nathan47> he know xd 17:54 < bridge> then 17:54 < bridge> the variable u want 17:54 < bridge> he probably uses a pre compiled bot client 17:54 < bridge> and its a simple substraction 17:54 < bridge> this is the easy way, using the source code 17:54 < bridge> 💀 17:54 < bridge> Nop 17:55 < bridge> <0nathan47> he will use ddnet client 17:55 < bridge> thas all ill say 17:55 < bridge> i dont like ppl who want things handed in a silver plate 17:55 < bridge> and botters 17:55 < bridge> then use the fcking source code lmao 17:55 < bridge> u know how fucking hard reverse engineering is? 17:55 < bridge> i did this for 1 year 17:55 < bridge> also i dont like ppl asking for stuff thats higher level than their skill without a will to put effort in learning by research and asking the solution directly 17:56 < bridge> ikr 17:56 < bridge> i decompiled ffxiv 17:56 < bridge> xd 17:57 < bridge> what u usually do to start is try to understnand how strings inside the binary are used 17:57 < bridge> there is a thing that can make it even harder 17:57 < bridge> i think its some register allocation thing 17:57 < bridge> then u can guess first function names 17:57 < bridge> zogitb: Memory offsets are changing runtime 17:57 < bridge> automatic register allocation iirc 17:58 < bridge> BTW I've done something similar but didn't got very far (because of no dgpu). I didn't use memory offsets just source code ;) 17:58 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1154446586944946346/lolthekogai.demo.mp4 17:59 < bridge> banned 18:00 < bridge> @jupeyy_keks there 1 guy who RE ddnet 18:00 < bridge> to add a thing to scoreboard 18:00 < bridge> chinese 18:00 < bridge> <0nathan47> oh 18:00 < bridge> yeah 18:00 < bridge> i remember 18:00 < bridge> https://github.com/MageDelfador/DDNet-show-points-in-game 18:01 < bridge> if gpu is the only problem, u dont have a problem xd 18:02 < bridge> I do they're expensive xD (I kinda rq cause the ai got stuck in places of a map plus I learned stuff about RL so mission passed respect++) 18:02 < bridge> i'd run it for u, when u done tweaking 18:02 < bridge> i wanna try someday 18:02 < bridge> i got a 3080 18:02 < bridge> that's the problem I couldn't tweak it enough cause slow training 18:03 < bridge> chillerdragon: when 4090 VPS 18:04 < bridge> <0nathan47> give us upsets then we let you please 18:04 < bridge> <0nathan47> thats all i am asking 18:04 < bridge> <0nathan47> it dont kill u 18:04 < bridge> <0nathan47> please 18:05 < bridge> <0nathan47> @jupeyy_keks 18:05 < bridge> This project use offsets to recover points 18:06 < bridge> i know 18:06 < bridge> 32bit or 64bit? 18:06 < bridge> 0xBEEF 18:06 < bridge> <0nathan47> 64bit 18:07 < bridge> https://ddnet.org/downloads/symbols/DDNet-17.3-rc1-win64-44d6a97f5075d52a8dbeb06a4566c3be720270b5-symbols.tar.xz 18:07 < bridge> 18:07 < bridge> here are secret debug symbols. with debug symbols u can find your offsets. but please keep it secret 18:07 < bridge> <0nathan47> thanks 18:07 < bridge> https://ddnet.org/downloads/symbols/DDNet-17.2.1-win64-c48d724889c6de248b11be5a0099bdee498f24ec-symbols.tar.xz 18:07 < bridge> 18:07 < bridge> here for current release 18:07 < bridge> top secret 18:07 < bridge> this is just too funny 18:07 < bridge> 😑 18:08 < bridge> <0nathan47> .. 18:09 < bridge> its as easy as compiling with debug and running the client with gdb 18:09 < bridge> <0nathan47> i was happy to show to my friend a game i am playing since 4y but you seems not ready to help us. bye. 18:09 < bridge> bye! 18:10 < bridge> Well thank you for your help which was so useful to me. 🤡🤡 18:10 < bridge> and remember, botting is not allowed in ddnet servers 18:11 < bridge> well that are seriously the debug symbols 18:11 < bridge> no scam 18:11 < bridge> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet 18:11 < bridge> 18:11 < bridge> here even the source code 18:11 < bridge> Idk why but i have zsh on start so i added such thing to ~/.zlogin and everything works :DDD 18:17 < bridge> <0nathan47> as i said it will be used for a school project not cheat+ on local server not on public. 18:21 < bridge> school projects, brothers, my sister, the dog, and the cat 18:21 < bridge> :justatest: 18:29 < ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ for wat 18:31 < ChillerDragon> tldr i cba to read all the bs about offsets what is this about? 18:31 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> offline ddnet client when 18:32 < bridge> How do u list to audio on gentoo? :o 18:33 < bridge> AI training 18:34 < bridge> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024593757062045749/1154321804605792296/218.jpg 18:37 < ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ 18:37 < ChillerDragon> > i did this for 1 year 18:37 < ChillerDragon> what did u RE? 18:39 < bridge> what 18:41 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i do not want an ai powered dummy 18:42 < bridge> chiller: ghosy did a AI 18:42 < ChillerDragon> for faster ai training? 18:42 < ChillerDragon> is it open source and tw related? 18:42 < ChillerDragon> i can run it on my machine then 18:43 < bridge> listen* xd. I mean do u open .mp3 files sometimes? 18:46 < bridge> zh 18:46 < bridge> ah 18:46 < bridge> mpv 18:46 < bridge> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mpv 18:52 < bridge> Thanks :D 19:21 < bridge> we run it on your machine aka VPS 😬 19:21 < bridge> i want my ddnet client on a golden plate 19:22 < bridge> bruh I'm searching any ideas of Docker Containers apps that could be running on a Cisco switch, 19:35 < bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what if its rust on linux served on a silver platter 19:36 < bridge> tomorrow ill be a flat renter 19:37 < bridge> funny cuz i startef this game when i was 14 19:37 < bridge> and now im becoming independent 19:37 < bridge> :justatest: 20:40 < bridge> @robyt3 why is that a bug? 20:40 < bridge> isnt that the idea behind a snd buffer 20:40 < bridge> Hmm, maybe that's right, but why would we allow so large values then 20:41 < bridge> if u do sampling rate of 192000 it should make it faster again 20:41 < bridge> at least that's how i imagine it 20:41 < bridge> I just noticed that I had a large buffer size and that's were the audio delay was coming from, seems like I accidentally set the buffer size 20:43 < bridge> I see, that works. We should probably document that better 20:44 < bridge> or maybe the former should be set based on the other 20:44 < bridge> and remove the config 20:51 < bridge> i dunno 20:51 < bridge> it also depends on the audio driver i guess 20:51 < bridge> i dunno how exactly SDL decides to do it 20:51 < bridge> we should at least check if it's good to just depent on each other 20:52 < bridge> if in theory u have a very very slow audio device, it would maybe need a much bigger buffer. except windows etc. do extra buffering 20:52 < bridge> on top of what we do 22:59 < bridge> buffer size is an option because some computers can't fill smaller buffers fast enough 22:59 < bridge> leave the option and provide a reasonable default 😃 23:05 < bridge> Send link and setup commands 23:07 < bridge> deal that out with ghosy xd 23:07 < bridge> on my GPU the VRAM just fills to 100%. so i at least cannot use it in desktop mode xd 23:08 < bridge> @mr.gh0s7: goated