00:01 < bridge_> <gerdoe> hi ewan
00:01 < bridge_> <gerdoe> hi ryozuki
00:02 < bridge_> <gerdoe> hi heinrich
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ```rs
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> fn swap<T>(vec: Vec<(T, T>) -> Vec<(T, T)> {
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991>     vec.into_iter().map(|(x, y)| (y, x)).collect()
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> }
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ```
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ```rs
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> fn swap<T>(vec: Vec<(T, T)>) -> Vec<(T, T)> {
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991>     vec.into_iter().map(|(x, y)| (y, x)).collect()
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> }
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ```
00:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> why not mem swap
00:02 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @ryozuki did you know this is currently guaranteed to work without allocations in rust? 😮
00:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :o
00:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i guess it can reason about iterators better?
00:03 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I learned it from this blog post: https://geo-ant.github.io/blog/2023/unsafe-rust-exploration/
00:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> looks like a niche opt maybe
00:03 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> (scroll to the bottom)
00:05 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it happens here: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/18fa7b9104aad0cbaba6d9aff8e19d6b96eedcef/library/alloc/src/vec/in_place_collect.rs#L170-L212
00:05 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> (tried to find it in the source, took me a bit)
00:07 < bridge_> <Voxel> we need to create a list of rust related words
00:08 < bridge_> <Voxel> "unsafe"
00:08 < bridge_> <Voxel> "blazingly"
00:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> epic
00:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i mean what u shared
00:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the comments are amazing
00:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> interesting they use traits for marking specializations
01:13 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @ryozuki https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/rustdoc/scraped-examples.html
02:35 < bridge_> <_gwendal> https://ddnet.org/status/index.json is no longer a thing ?
02:46 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> 46.174.139.20:8303
02:46 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> 185.72.9.187:8303
02:46 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> 
02:46 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> fake turkey servers probably grabbing ips
02:46 < bridge_> <DDNet> 46.174.139.20:8303 is not a DDNet or KoG server.
02:47 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> 45.141.57.154:8303
02:47 < bridge_> <fokkonaut> test
02:47 < bridge_> <DDNet> 45.141.57.154:8303 is not a DDNet or KoG server.
03:00 < bridge_> <murpi> No, we use https://master1.ddnet.tw/ddnet/15/servers.json filtered by the servers in https://info2.ddnet.tw/info now
03:00 < bridge_> <_gwendal> Alright thanks !!
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/servers.json
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://info.ddnet.org/info
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> we use ddnet.org nowadays
10:57 < bridge_> <.hoshiestarr> @skills
12:49 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> to the more experienced game developers here - how harmful is letterboxing to a game? it makes it less immersive but way easier to manage, and i'm really torn on whether i should use this in my game or go through the exrta headaches to pull off a dynamic UI
12:50 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> I need some opinions from those who actually know what they're doing
12:53 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> On "normal" resolutions?
12:54 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I think it's fine if a game does not support all resolutions fine if it doesn't make sense
12:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> on 1920 i would try to not have  that
12:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> from what i seen some games do ui for the most used resolutions
12:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and then yeah
12:55 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> i thought 1920x1080 was standard, but apparently there are a lot of modern monitors that use other ratios
12:55 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> my laptop is personally 16:9 too, and that's how most of my placeholder menus look now
12:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Will be good enough for the mainstream then
12:57 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> alr
12:57 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> worst case scenario i'll deal with it later on
13:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but beware ur asking developers not designers
13:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xddd
13:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> lazy by nature
13:37 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> well
13:37 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> better to ask anyone
13:37 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> i should probably consult people who do design as well
13:38 < bridge_> <national_insurance_clerk> or just do the lazy letterboxing thing and move on
13:40 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Simply try your best. But don't waste too much time on this. UI is probably easy to fix later^^
15:55 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 ^
16:01 < bridge_> <chairn> @heinrich5991 #6256, willing to create a mem_init function and keep mem_zero for trivial types ?
16:01 < bridge_> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6256
16:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> what's `mem_init`? calling constructors and zeroing everything else?
16:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @chairn
16:15 < bridge_> <chairn> i guess
16:15 < bridge_> <chairn> your comment said that you didn't like mem_zero not zeroing memory
16:15 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes
16:19 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> what's the use case for `mem_init`?
16:19 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @chairn
16:21 < bridge_> <chairn> doing the same as mem_zero, ie dont leave memory uninitialized
16:25 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> But as result type?
16:25 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Int a = mem_init?
16:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> that's done using `{}`?
16:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> that can be done*
16:52 < bridge_> <chairn> more like mem_init(T* ptr) with T being non trivial type
17:03 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Guess we should prefer constructors then
17:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> If we currently have weird hacks that justify this. We should better look if we can get away.. but tbf sometimes the code is insanely hacky xD
17:07 < bridge_> <learath2> How hard is it to disable ssl verification in aiohttp???
17:07 < bridge_> <learath2> Like seriously why do they make everything so hard? I know what I'm doing just let me not verify it aAAAAAaaaa
17:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> step 1
17:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> dont use python
17:12 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> v
17:12 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://github.com/aio-libs/aiohttp/discussions/5786
17:12 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> seems pretty easy?
17:13 < bridge_> <learath2> You can only do it per request for some reason
17:13 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> override the request method if you want to have it per-session
17:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> doesn't sound too har
17:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> d
17:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ah
17:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I guess there are multiple possible request methods
17:15 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> why do you want to disable it btw? (I'm required by law to ask this question) @learath2
17:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ur required?
17:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
17:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ah u mean cuz its used in ddnet
17:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ?
17:16 < bridge_> <learath2> I just want to inspect the requests with a proxy :AnyaSob:
17:17 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> if you just want to inspect, perhaps SSLKEYLOGFILE works?
17:18 < bridge_> <chairn> damn, that caterpillar map looks great. the guy posting it is at his 6 attempts 😄
17:18 < bridge_> <learath2> It's almost like I'm doing something wrong, how could it be this hard? Do people just not debug stuff in python and instead just keep rewriting it until it works or create bug reports?
17:19 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 apparently SSLKEYLOGFILE is supported
17:19 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> perhaps use that?
17:19 < bridge_> <learath2> I'd rather not work with wireshark
17:19 < bridge_> <learath2> but that's a good fallback
17:19 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I like to see what's actually on the wire
17:19 < bridge_> <learath2> if I can't figure it out within the next 10 minutes
17:20 < bridge_> <learath2> I like the interface of mitmproxy for messing around with these, especially since I can intercept and modify requests on the fly with it
17:21 < bridge_> <murpi> have you tried what I suggested in #tester ?
17:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the wired
17:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @learath2 knows the reference
17:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1133781885663838429/image.png
17:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :sus:
17:24 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 add `ssl = False` in the line after `ssl = _merge_ssl_params(ssl, verify_ssl, ssl_context, fingerprint)` in /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/aiohttp/client.py
17:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so u have dev talks in private channels
17:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> im saddened
17:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> that should disable all ssl checks for all requests using aiohttp
17:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> (make sure to revert it afterwards ^^)
17:26 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 does that work for you?
17:26 < bridge_> <learath2> THANK GOD
17:26 < bridge_> <learath2> Thank you @heinrich5991
17:27 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> you're very welcome
17:29 < bridge_> <learath2> Mh I have a feeling the bot is running two times now, @murpi did you start it with systemctl?
17:30 < bridge_> <learath2> Yeah you did, I'm going to start crying
17:30 < bridge_> <murpi> Yes, I wanted to see the request the bot does
17:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> systemd kek
17:32 < bridge_> <learath2> Ok, I don't get it
17:33 < bridge_> <learath2> The request contains the \n just fine, if I do the same request to the same endpoint on my own guild I get proper newlines
17:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> when nixos servers on ddnet?
17:33 < bridge_> <murpi> sorry 😦
17:33 < bridge_> <murpi> no it doesn't?
17:34 < bridge_> <murpi> ```[2023-07-26 17:26:45][DEBUG][discord.gateway]: For Shard ID None: WebSocket Event: {'t': 'CHANNEL_UPDATE', 's': 344, 'op': 0, 'd': {'version': 1690385204989, 'type': 0, 'topic': '**"caterpillar4"** by **Test** [Race]https://ddnet.org/testmaps/?map=caterpillar4@learath2', 'theme_color': None, 'rate_limit_per_user': 0, 'position': 135, 'permission_overwrites': [{'type': 0, 'id': '746414504488861747', 'deny': '0', 'allow': '8192'}, {'type': 1, 'id':
17:34 < bridge_> <murpi> they're missing entirely here too
17:35 < bridge_> <learath2> Idk how you are printing that, but I'm very sure the actual request that is made to the api contains the \n
17:35 < bridge_> <murpi> check the log file
17:35 < bridge_> <murpi> i changed the logging level to debug
17:35 < bridge_> <murpi> it prints the raw api requests into the log file
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2> ```json
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2> {
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>    "type":0,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>    "name":"\ud83c\udfc1caterpillar4",
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>    "parent_id":449352010072850443,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>    "permission_overwrites":[
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>       {
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "allow":1024,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "deny":0,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "id":216912122083409925,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "type":1
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>       },
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>       {
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "allow":1024,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "deny":0,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "id":1099262920497582099,
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>          "type   ":1
17:38 < bridge_> <learath2>       },
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>       {
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "allow":0,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "deny":1024,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "id":252358080522747904,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "type":0
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>       },
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>       {
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "allow":1024,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "deny":0,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "id":455814387169755176,
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>          "type":0
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>       },
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2>       {
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2> It obviously has no idea what it's printing
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2> This is 100% what it is sending at the end of the day
17:39 < bridge_> <learath2> btw what you logged is the gateway event notifying that the channel has been created, you are looking for the client request
17:40 < bridge_> <murpi> ah
17:40 < bridge_> <learath2> (I already logged within discord.py the request and it still had the \n)
17:43 < bridge_> <learath2> AHA
17:43 < bridge_> <learath2> Found it, it is an API issue
17:44 < bridge_> <learath2> `POST /guilds/<gid>/channels` ignores the `\n`s `PATCH /channels/<cid>` doesn't
17:51 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> make sure to re-enable tls verification 😉
18:03 < bridge_> <learath2> I nuked the entire venv since I was poking around lots of packages trying to rig it to work 😄
18:03 < bridge_> <learath2> https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/issues/6325
18:04 < bridge_> <learath2> Found a bug in githubs preview generator there 😄
18:04 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it's broken all the way down
18:05 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> all software, that is
18:06 < bridge_> <learath2> mitmproxy is such a nice piece of software btw, if any of y'all ever need to debug stuff like this
18:06 < bridge_> <learath2> Rare python w
18:06 < bridge_> <murpi> @learath2 your the best
18:06 < bridge_> <murpi> @learath2 youre the best
18:07 < bridge_> <murpi> should I add the regex anyway? :justatest:
18:07 < bridge_> <murpi> i've been changing the topics by hand the last couple of weeks
18:08 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> haven't used it before
18:08 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> any advice when to start looking at it?
18:09 < bridge_> <learath2> It's especially useful when you feel like tinkering with the requests on the fly
18:09 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> do programs usually not have timeouts that prohibit manual editing?
18:09 < bridge_> <learath2> Also very useful when you want to tinker with responses, e.g. you don't have access to the client source but want to see how it behaves w.r.t some response
18:10 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> how do you usually deal with certificates?
18:11 < bridge_> <learath2> If the timeout becomes an issue it can also do automated editing iirc with full python support you can use to edit the request/response
18:12 < bridge_> <learath2> e.g. depends on your target, e.g. way back in the day I was reversing some ios messaging app, just installing the mitmproxy CA certificate was enough (the apps fault really, it should have been making sure)
18:13 < bridge_> <learath2> s\/^e\.g\. d/D/
18:13 < bridge_> <learath2> 😄
18:13 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> not the app's fault if it's okay with being analyzed. it's the user's device after all
18:13 < bridge_> <learath2> That is true, but I doubt blackberry really wanted their messenger inspected in any manner
18:14 < bridge_> <learath2> For apps that employ certificate pinning there are tools that can modify the installer, and a frida based magic tool that disables it at runtime
18:15 < bridge_> <learath2> No, I'll fix it rn
18:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> admin abuse happening in #📬submit-maps
18:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> @learath2 releasing tons of maps
18:33 < bridge_> <bencie.> :ban:
18:34 < bridge_> <learath2> I still do not undersand, how is this possible, I do the same request from the same server with curl it works, I do it with discord.py it doesn't work
18:34 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> have you tried wireshark? ^^
18:34 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it's likely not the same request
18:35 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> have you compared the headers? @learath2
18:36 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> have you compared the URL?
18:36 < bridge_> <learath2> Headers I'm comparing rn, URL the bot was using a versioned one, I used a versioned one too didn't change anything
18:36 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> the versioning sounds like it could be the issue
18:37 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> maybe try that again, maybe you missed something?
18:37 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> anyway, I'll be off for a bit. I'm interested in the eventual solution
18:38 < bridge_> <learath2> The api even replied with the now correct topic, I don't get it :/
18:39 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ctrl-r in the discord client sometimes fixes caching issues
18:40 < bridge_> <murpi> the debug prints in the logs are super confusing 😬
18:42 < bridge_> <learath2> I was doing the PATCH too quick
18:42 < bridge_> <learath2> seems there is a race somewhere in discord api ;/
18:42 < bridge_> <murpi> If theres too much spam, disable the playerfinder cog btw
18:42 < bridge_> <learath2> Anyway, a 2 second sleep after creating the channel seems enough
18:44 < bridge_> <gerdoe> a: buse
18:45 < bridge_> <learath2> @murpi that's that fixed
18:45 < bridge_> <murpi> now port everything to YADDB
18:46 < bridge_> <murpi> 🙂
18:46 < bridge_> <learath2> One day
21:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/model-checking/kani
21:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://openjdk.org/jeps/400
21:34 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > JEP 400: UTF-8 by Default
21:34 < bridge_> <ryozuki> rust defining standards
21:40 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> we'll unfortunately never get rid of almost-utf-16 in java, javascript, .net, windows
22:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @heinrich5991 https://blog.cloudflare.com/zenbleed-vulnerability/
22:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> today im faster
22:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks @reitw @learath2 new lcoudflare blog dropped
22:26 < bridge_> <ryozuki> hmm
22:26 < bridge_> <ryozuki> upon further look doesnt seem as interesting xd
22:26 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> already seen it
22:26 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/commit/?id=0bc3126c9cfa0b8c761483215c25382f831a7c6f
22:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the microcode update
22:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @heinrich5991 do u know examples of open source  microcode? to know what it looks like
22:28 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I think there's some public old, REd intel microcode
22:29 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://www.righto.com/2023/03/8086-multiplication-microcode.html
22:29 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> but I didn't mean that
22:30 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32145324 maybe some useful links here
22:31 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> btw
22:31 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> do you guys know streetcomplete? it's a nice app to get into contributing to openstreetmap 🙂
22:31 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://streetcomplete.app/
22:34 < ChillerDragon> @zwelf is there a way to search https://archive.strct.cc/ddnet without downloading all?
22:34 < ChillerDragon> i am intrested in what ddnet did on r/place
22:36 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> that happened in a thread which is not available in the archive AFAIK
22:36 < ChillerDragon> so not on ddnet discord?
22:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> discord has threads
22:37 < ChillerDragon> like slack?
22:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @zwelf2
22:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1131576178487066715
22:37 < ChillerDragon> isnt a thread in a channel?
22:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye i guess
22:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but like diferent idk
22:38 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes. but it's not backed up by dce
22:39 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter/issues/663
22:39 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I guess it would help if you could contribute there, ChillerDragon
22:40 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> also https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter/discussions/999
22:40 < bridge_> <ryozuki> did someone make archive.org crawl all https://archive.strct.cc/ddnet/ ?
22:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> nope
22:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i submitted it
22:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but i think it doesnt do subpages automatically
22:41 < ChillerDragon> guess i found enough context here https://archive.strct.cc/ddnet/2023-07-21/general.html
22:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u missed a lot
22:41 < ChillerDragon> like?
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> how we teamed up with other communities
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> idk
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
22:42 < ChillerDragon> epic
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> So, what happened for this week?
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 20 July
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Main idea for r/place 2023 - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Fist ddnet r/place - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> First pixels- ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> OOF, that was close - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> War with KoG and SP|Someone, when they tried to destroy ddnet r/place - ⁠general⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> DDRock just stared to ban player for saying, "KoG suck's" xD - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Void are so close - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Hitted by void, but keep calm :justatest: - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> We're dead - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Some Spanish streamer just stole our place >:C - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 21 July
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Old place actually AMOGUS field - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ReD 
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Getting  back our place:D - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> (Also we comeback out friendship with KoG and DDrock)
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Collaboration with Sailor Moon @Johann [Sailor Moon] - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Sailor moon kitty with DDNet art - ⁠r/place 2023⁠ - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Ha ha happi cloud c: - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Tardis with us on r/place - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>  
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 23 July 
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>  Had an idea about extend our field, but guys from Whole  Lotta Red sain no:( - ⁠r/place 2023⁠ - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Ok that fun XD - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Heart with French:> - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @Voxel get shadow ban xd - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Actually nothing happen this day
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 24 July
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Void next to us (again) - ⁠r/place 2023⁠
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a resume
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> without links
22:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ⁠r/place 2023⁠ is a channel link
22:43 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> seems kinda redundant to put it on archive.org
22:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> why? i trust it more than struct.cc
22:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to continue living
22:44 < ChillerDragon> i dont get how r/place even works how is it not full of bots? How do people coordinate did you have like a ddnet template that others used? or how do they know where to place
22:44 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it is full of automated user accounts
22:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye template
22:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and ye lot of bots
22:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> sadly
22:45 < ChillerDragon> i see
22:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> they dont even bother putting a protection
22:45 < ChillerDragon> wot?
22:45 < ChillerDragon> like none at all?
22:45 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it looked like an event to boost user counts
22:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but this is done because of recent reddit drama and its a easy way to "fake" traffic to the website
22:45 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> because reddit is doing badly with PR right now
22:45 < ChillerDragon> r/place is older than the PR struggle isnt it?
22:45 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> r/place was reopened probably because of the PR struggle
22:45 < ChillerDragon> a
22:46 < ChillerDragon> i thought its a reocurring event
22:46 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> no
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> r/place should have been only done once, reddit usually does something new on april fools
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but when they did rplace they saw it was too much of a success
22:46 < ChillerDragon> i see
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so they repeated
22:46 < ChillerDragon> is it over now?
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> y
22:46 < ChillerDragon> sadge
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it ended with a big fuck u/spewz
22:46 < ChillerDragon> how to even use a template?
22:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it ended with a big fuck u/spez
22:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> userscripts
22:47 < ChillerDragon> cool
22:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://violentmonkey.github.io/
22:47 < ChillerDragon> ima google who spez is my self
22:48 < ChillerDragon> thanks for the insight :) 
22:48 < ChillerDragon> > Spez, written as u/spez on Reddit, is the platform’s CEO. Real name Steve Huffman, users are protesting against the tech leader after Reddit revealed updates to its API (Application Programming Interface) in April 2023. 
22:49 < ChillerDragon> epic trol
23:45 < bridge_> <Ewan> is tampermonkey not oss
23:46 < bridge_> <Ewan> 's what i've been using