06:08 < bridge_> i hate the kog accounts system 06:09 < bridge_> weeks ago i went out of my way to reserve a name and create an account and stuff 06:09 < bridge_> login and whatever 06:09 < bridge_> now i join and am trying to play after already having been logged in prior and it says i have to /login to join the game. it says to do `/help login`; this is all it says 06:09 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127089064810643526/image.png 06:09 < bridge_> how do you fuck it up that badly 06:21 < bridge_> @mpft you need to go to the website then it gives you a login code 06:41 < bridge_> i logged off 06:41 < bridge_> i need a login code for one session? 06:47 < bridge_> im glad kog did it first so ddnet can know what not to do if/when they make their impl 07:00 < bridge_> Bind it, and then join a server just click it 07:00 < bridge_> Just click the key :D 07:09 < bridge_> pixelart.map.bin 07:09 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127104166897143859/pixelart.map.bin 07:20 < bridge_> and it let me in the game on map change lmfao 07:20 < bridge_> w/o loggin in 07:20 < bridge_> i can also chat 07:20 < bridge_> unless a mod did something but idk 10:39 < ChillerDragon> how can one random dude spam so massively? Is quakenet so small or unprotected? I get pings in multiple irc channels and dms on almost a daily basis from 1 ip 10:46 < ChillerDragon> @Ewan yea i also full on raged about /help login so many things it could mention. That its not your password but a code from the website. Where to find it. And so on 10:47 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127159024589209670/image.png 10:47 < bridge_> this is related to rust lmfao 11:04 < bridge_> The way that IRC works means you can't remove messages after they have been sent. Makes it perfect for spamming 11:13 < ChillerDragon> ok sure deen but what about banning or ratelimiting a ip that spams the entire network? 11:56 < ChillerDragon> @avolicious bro what k3s is epic it took me multiple hours to get vanilla k8s with kubeadm working. It took me a few minutes to do the same with k3s wtf thanks for the tip. I knew k3s is widley used but never set it up didnt expect it to be that much smoother 12:16 < bridge_> Its super small 🥹 But nice 12:26 < bridge_> @ravie_ravie Progress spinner design (in sound settings just for testing) 12:26 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127184042987622490/Progress-Spinner.mp4 12:41 < bridge_> honestly I don't think the gradient look fits the ui, also it's quite pixelly so maybe let's just spin some quad with texture? 12:44 < bridge_> ah also it looks too big to fit on a button 12:51 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127190215770001528/Progress-Spinner-2.mp4 12:58 < bridge_> @robyt3 I feel like you're overengineering it 😄 this would be more than good enough 12:58 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127192086798672022/image.png 13:00 < bridge_> looks cool though :D 13:17 < bridge_> we can also do it more fancy like this 13:17 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127196781726420998/image.png 13:19 < bridge_> what is nightly client 13:19 < bridge_> @vy0x2 Thank you my lord for multy spec view 13:20 < bridge_> build compiled of current master branch 13:20 < bridge_> why it's called nightly ? 13:21 < bridge_> many development teams have daily compiled version of the software in its newest state, with stuff in it which isn't tested sufficiently yet 13:22 < bridge_> so its "nightly" probably because they usually compiled during the night and have the unstable version of the software to try on the next day 13:26 < ChillerDragon> │ 2023-07-08 11:26:18 I http: https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/register failed. libcurl error (7): Failed to connect to master1.ddnet.org port 443 after 199 ms: Couldn't connect to server │ 13:26 < ChillerDragon> can i debug this with a manual curl @heinrich5991 ? 13:26 < ChillerDragon> is there some flying around? 13:27 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688815636.png 13:27 < ChillerDragon> lgtm 13:27 < ChillerDragon> doesnt look like a firewall or networking issue 13:28 < ChillerDragon> eh woah is my webserver down again? :D 13:28 < bridge_> уер 13:28 < ChillerDragon> f 13:28 < ChillerDragon> kubernetes must have attacked apache 13:28 < ChillerDragon> classic 13:38 < ChillerDragon> ok resend https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688815636.png 13:57 < bridge_> Ew k8s user 14:05 < bridge_> @robyt3 14:05 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127208821794820147/gif.gif 14:11 < bridge_> hmm, I like the 80% circle more, this feels a bit old to me 14:12 < bridge_> make sleeping tee, or walking tee 14:12 < bridge_> as loading indication 14:13 < bridge_> it fits the tw ui, we're not trying to make a generic modern javascript ui 14:13 < bridge_> you are not trying to do it* xd 14:13 < bridge_> true I'm trying to prevent it 14:13 < bridge_> if u want tw ui, make it look teeworlds related 14:14 < bridge_> right now it just looks like someone forgot it in 1999 14:14 < bridge_> nah it's about matching the style, not slapping tees on everything 14:14 < bridge_> we need a tee loading 14:14 < bridge_> icon 14:14 < bridge_> thats it 14:14 < bridge_> a tee showing the emote with 3 dots 14:14 < bridge_> and each dot animated 14:16 < bridge_> make a 3d UI.. that would be hipster 14:16 < bridge_> 14:16 < bridge_> 2d game, 3d ui 14:16 < bridge_> 3d game, 2d ui 14:18 < bridge_> 4d ui 14:43 < bridge_> Hm, I like Ravie's more the 80% circle needs a little more transparent tail and needs to be less pixelly, needs some aliasing, might be too much work 14:45 < bridge_> Making it not pixelly is the only hard part unless you use FSAA for the entire client 14:46 < bridge_> Or just prerender the image and only rotate it in the client 14:46 < bridge_> Yeah, idk how to clean up just that either. Maybe aliasing it by hand? 14:47 < bridge_> Yeah I guess this is the only easy way 15:21 < bridge_> I have some other suggestions since you guys dislike the other one 15:21 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127228030281076837/gif.gif 15:44 < bridge_> the left is best 15:44 < bridge_> and your first suggestion looks too old 15:57 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> the middle one looks the most fitting to me 15:58 < bridge_> no it's a timeless design 15:58 < bridge_> the classic look fits tw ui but I rest my case 15:59 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i didnt see this either 15:59 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yea this can work! 16:01 < bridge_> yea i bet windows xp looks also timeless 16:02 < bridge_> i like the idea of transitioning an applications design language to something more modern and simplistic over time 16:02 < bridge_> it's like watching it evolve 16:03 < bridge_> a simple and clean design doesn't get "old" 16:04 < bridge_> your first suggestion is rather complex to todays standards 16:04 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> we dont need to reinvent the wheel tho 16:04 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> pun unintended 16:09 < bridge_> nah it just has an outline, not everything has to be a flat color against a flat color 16:09 < bridge_> its not what i meant 16:09 < bridge_> it is too detailed for something thats supposed to be small 16:10 < bridge_> it's not that small 16:10 < bridge_> I gave up on the idea of putting it on a button, better put it in the middle of the window that is loading 16:12 < bridge_> i think i have an idea that is universally agreeable 16:12 < bridge_> what if we make this icon right here rotate as its loading 16:12 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127240761675616256/image.png 16:13 < bridge_> with a smooth f curve it would look very neat i think 16:15 < bridge_> we can't rotate text and also this is gonna be used in other places 16:16 < bridge_> like loading assets or demos 16:16 < bridge_> make it an image, or some sort of gif 16:17 < bridge_> yeah it's gonna be a rotating image 16:21 < ChillerDragon> @avolicious how do you mount maps into the tw server pods? 18:26 < bridge_> right one best 18:26 < bridge_> that's my favorite as well 18:27 < bridge_> u can try make it a slight gradient too 18:27 < bridge_> a little less alpha per dash 18:27 < bridge_> well maybe it'd look weird if it's a full circle 18:27 < bridge_> gradients don't really fit tw ui imo, and it's just a rotating image 18:28 < bridge_> or do u mean like in the first one I made? 18:29 < bridge_> yes 18:32 < bridge_> I tried, looks strange when it's spinning tho 18:32 < bridge_> the first one used the fade to fake a rotation 18:32 < bridge_> first but with different circle size 18:38 < bridge_> https://materializecss.com/preloader.html 18:38 < bridge_> 18:38 < bridge_> under section circular 18:39 < bridge_> that's too thin 18:39 < bridge_> then make it thicker xd 18:39 < bridge_> I'd like something that has this chunky feel and an outline that the text and icons have 18:40 < bridge_> https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/fluentui#/controls/web/spinner#usage 18:40 < bridge_> but these are more interesting 18:40 < bridge_> then simply spinning 18:40 < bridge_> than simply spinning 18:41 < bridge_> same with adding different shades 18:41 < bridge_> or variable dot sized 18:41 < bridge_> or variable dot sizes 18:42 < bridge_> for menu UI loading buttons i think simpler is better 18:42 < bridge_> maybe for like loading in a map u can have something that looks cooler or idk 18:43 < bridge_> just make a terminal and remove all GUI, back to the 90' 18:43 < bridge_> well chrome uses this 18:43 < bridge_> when pressing f5 18:43 < bridge_> in the icon of the tab 18:50 < bridge_> we don't need anything interesting, you will see this for 0.5s, we need something that you can recognize in such short time 18:50 < bridge_> so the simpler the better 18:52 < bridge_> I like the 6 dashes best, the ¼ missing circle is a bit boring and unbalanced looking to me 18:55 < bridge_> we need smth that looks fancy af for 0.001 seconds, so you know some dev wasted 20 hours implementing it even tho you will never ever see it 18:57 < bridge_> yeah overly complicated and superfluous seems to be the ddnet way 19:05 < bridge_> I found something even better than 6 dashes, presenting 5 dashes 19:05 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127284314271404134/gif.gif 19:11 < bridge_> looks like a minimalistic flower symbol 19:11 < bridge_> hate me or not but it just looks ugly af xDD 19:11 < bridge_> how can u like that more than the spinners i showed 19:14 < bridge_> how can you like some generic flat website looking spinner over something nice that fits the tw style 19:14 < bridge_> what spinners? 19:14 < bridge_> bro what tw style xD 19:14 < bridge_> u always say tw ui style, have u ever looked into vanilla 0.6 client? 19:14 < bridge_> there is no tw ui style 19:15 < bridge_> it was simply glued together bcs nobody was motivated to do smth 19:15 < bridge_> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1127277604408393850 19:15 < bridge_> for me its still this one that is the best by far 19:15 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127286897371254914/image.png 19:15 < bridge_> if u want tw style, why do u disable background maps? 19:15 < bridge_> I mean the way stuff is rounded, has outlines etc, you can't slap some random flat thing on it and say it fits 19:15 < bridge_> that is tw style 19:16 < bridge_> u can give the spinner an outline if thats so important 19:16 < bridge_> that it's not gonna look good with an outline 19:16 < bridge_> is* 19:16 < bridge_> even from these i still find the round the best 19:16 < bridge_> looks just like the windows loading symbol 19:17 < bridge_> its a pretty common loading circle yes 19:17 < bridge_> i just looked, even egui uses it 19:17 < bridge_> https://www.egui.rs/ 19:17 < bridge_> under "ProgressBar" 19:17 < bridge_> Add freeze particle effects on it and boom 19:19 < bridge_> interesting website 19:19 < bridge_> most boring 19:19 < bridge_> Does anybody know how i catch a mouseclicked in this area? spectator.cpp 19:19 < bridge_> Or is there anything about that documented? 19:19 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127287826866774198/image.png 19:19 < bridge_> most boring is the most commonly like by the mass 19:19 < bridge_> well not by me 19:20 < bridge_> simple doesn't have to mean boring, the other ones I made are fun 19:20 < bridge_> loading symbols are something that shouldn't be complex by any means, they should just fit the flow 19:20 < bridge_> they're not complex by any means 19:20 < bridge_> none of them 19:20 < bridge_> like i said, they're too detailed for something small 19:20 < bridge_> especially in todays modern design 19:21 < bridge_> apparently design is not something I'd know a thing about 19:21 < bridge_> me neither, i'm just an art school student 19:22 < bridge_> well if u look at two websites, u can have an opinion on which looks nicer 19:22 < bridge_> u dont need to be an artist for that 19:22 < bridge_> @jupeyy_keks I'm not saying the ones you posted are ugly, they're just not good in this context 19:23 < bridge_> they're good in the context of a generic minimalistic modern website xd 19:23 < bridge_> why is teeworlds not allowed to look sexy tho <.< 19:23 < bridge_> less is more 19:23 < bridge_> it's not sexy to put a thing which has a style that totally doesn't fit 19:23 < bridge_> especially with something small like this xd 19:24 < bridge_> then do animated dots 19:24 < bridge_> jumping up and down 19:24 < bridge_> that screaam 2000s design 19:24 < bridge_> xd 19:24 < bridge_> that screams 2000s design 19:24 < bridge_> and ye i agree with ravie that your suggestion isnt fitting for the ddnet look 19:25 < bridge_> its too thin, too animated 19:25 < bridge_> well anything is too animated 19:25 < bridge_> bcs we didnt use any animations yet 19:25 < bridge_> except maybe the hover effect for the top buttons 19:26 < bridge_> because we don't wanna end up with a goofy client that has performance issues with older pcs 19:26 < bridge_> lmao 19:26 < bridge_> animations wont kill the perf i guess 19:26 < bridge_> animations are often simply annoying 19:26 < bridge_> the smooth scrollbar for example, costs time 19:26 < bridge_> that is actually something i dislike 19:26 < bridge_> that's why a simple spin is perfect 19:26 < bridge_> i dunno why we added that xd 19:27 < bridge_> really? i love the smooth scrolling 19:27 < bridge_> but to me it looks ugly and doesn't fit 19:27 < bridge_> on your 60hz screen maybe xD 19:27 < bridge_> what should it be then? static? you can't get a simpler motion 19:27 < bridge_> on 240hz its completely useless 19:27 < bridge_> 144 19:27 < bridge_> or just make a small animated line under the button 19:27 < bridge_> and dont do anything spinning at all 19:28 < bridge_> we actually already have this 19:28 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127290219134201866/image.png 19:28 < bridge_> in the server browser 19:29 < bridge_> u just never saw it bcs its only if the old tw protocol is used (not http server browser) 19:30 < bridge_> i don't think we should make the loading bar that appearent, because for most people the loading doesnt even take a second 19:30 < bridge_> well i meant under the button 19:30 < bridge_> not here 19:30 < bridge_> or inside the button 19:31 < bridge_> like the buttom of the button xD 19:31 < bridge_> or like a transluscent progress bar that is filling the button 19:31 < bridge_> or simply no progress indication 19:31 < bridge_> go back to stone age 19:32 < bridge_> disable the refresh button 19:32 < bridge_> while loading 19:32 < bridge_> visually 19:32 < bridge_> ez as that 19:32 < bridge_> that is a simple but a strong function 19:32 < bridge_> not bad 19:33 < bridge_> but i think Ravie mentioned that he wants to make loading spinners that can be used universally in ddnet 19:33 < bridge_> but its funny how there is more discussion about a button than accounts xd 19:33 < bridge_> xdd 19:36 < bridge_> daily stupid idea of tsfreddie: iirc someone had some idea of generating a id or key pair of some sort to use as identification instead of use any credentials. what if we did do that and added steam cloud config so steam users (a lot of them) get automatic account backup 19:36 < bridge_> i remember steam cloud doesn't require any implementation and was setup through steamwork console? 19:37 < bridge_> or have a config backup before the id thing would be nice i guess? 19:38 < bridge_> like config, friends and fav backup, might need to separate graphic config to a separate file tho. 19:38 < bridge_> like config, friends and fav in cloud save, might need to separate graphic config to a separate file tho. 19:44 < bridge_> It would be great to add unfreeze to rcon tele just like the practice tele 19:44 < bridge_> if you use /tp, it unfreezes you 19:45 < bridge_> It's what I just said 19:45 < bridge_> /tp is for practice tele 19:45 < bridge_> for the sake of context, this is the idea (so it's not tiny) 19:46 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127294522322325675/a.png 19:46 < bridge_> ah didnt understand you 19:46 < bridge_> 😄 19:46 < bridge_> still looks like a flower 19:47 < bridge_> why flower? 19:47 < bridge_> a tee reading a book to represent "server lookup" 19:47 < bridge_> odd amount of dashes looks more fun which fits 19:48 < bridge_> those 5 short leafs growing out of the center 19:48 < bridge_> I think you smoke too much minimalism if any radially symmetric thing resembles a flower 19:49 < bridge_> can it never make sense for testing that smth is freezed to emulate some behavior? 19:49 < bridge_> i'm sure im not the only one to see the resemblence of a flower in it 19:50 < bridge_> odd amount does look more oragnic but I wouldn't just to calling it a flower 19:50 < bridge_> odd amount does look more organic but I wouldn't jump to calling it a flower 19:50 < bridge_> I can't think of a case where it would be a problem 19:51 < bridge_> Rcon tele is often used to teleport around, unfortunately you have to be in practice + rcon to test decently not to have to super unsuper after each rcon tele 19:52 < bridge_> mh ok, also cant really think of when it would be useful 19:52 < bridge_> at least not for normal freeze 19:52 < bridge_> deepfreeze would be different 19:59 < bridge_> this is the closest i could find for now, just imagine the center part were invisible 19:59 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127298008908845136/image.png 20:00 < bridge_> i mean a flower is not too bad :lol: 20:01 < bridge_> the leaves have to pulse 20:01 < bridge_> in size 20:01 < bridge_> so if you add a few things, it looks like the most minimal flower possible :thonk: 20:01 < bridge_> not really 20:02 < bridge_> the most minmalistic would probably be just a plain dot 20:02 < bridge_> but yeah 20:02 < bridge_> nah a dot is a dot 20:02 < bridge_> unless you add other flower context which this doesn't have either 20:02 < bridge_> minimalism crosses the line between what is defined and what is undefined 20:04 < bridge_> so anything can be anything if you want it to be, got it 20:04 < bridge_> welcome to symbolism and its meanings 20:05 < bridge_> that's not how it works 20:05 < bridge_> i made the mona lisa guys! 20:05 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127299471882080276/image.png 20:05 < bridge_> i don't know but that thing looks like a flower and im standing by it 20:06 < bridge_> if it doesn't have any context that would suggest it's a flower despite not looking like one, then it's just your imagination 😄 20:07 < bridge_> :jaouis: 20:13 < bridge_> vanilla vs ddnet 20:13 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127301330646605844/image.png 20:13 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1127301331070238740/image.png 20:13 < bridge_> almost nothing changed xDD 20:13 < bridge_> but damn the scrollbar in vanilla xD 20:14 < bridge_> Black mode 20:14 < bridge_> 20:16 < bridge_> yeah that is just ugly lol 20:19 < bridge_> lizard no lag brings back some memories 20:51 < bridge_> i can't stop ordering food at 3am 20:51 < bridge_> help 20:52 < bridge_> i should really get a checkup for diabetes sometime 20:53 < bridge_> oops wrong channel 21:40 < bridge_> Congratulations to everyone who benefited from my company yesterday. 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