00:41 < bridge_> Anyone a clue why the CMysqlConnection doesnt accept Uint64? 00:41 < bridge_> 00:42 < bridge_> ``` 00:42 < bridge_> void CMysqlConnection::BindUInt64(int Idx, uint64_t Value) 00:42 < bridge_> { 00:42 < bridge_> m_NewQuery = true; 00:42 < bridge_> Idx -= 1; 00:42 < bridge_> dbg_assert(0 <= Idx && Idx < (int)m_vStmtParameters.size(), "index out of bounds"); 00:42 < bridge_> 00:42 < bridge_> m_vStmtParameterExtras[Idx].i = Value; 00:42 < bridge_> MYSQL_BIND *pParam = &m_vStmtParameters[Idx]; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->buffer_type = MYSQL_TYPE_LONGLONG; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->buffer = &m_vStmtParameterExtras[Idx].i; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->buffer_length = sizeof(m_vStmtParameterExtras[Idx].i); 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->length = nullptr; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->is_null = nullptr; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->is_unsigned = true; 00:42 < bridge_> pParam->error = nullptr; 00:42 < bridge_> } 00:42 < bridge_> ``` 00:42 < bridge_> Oh I see, because the C API Type Code expect a long long int... sadge 07:39 < bridge_> so true 👀 07:46 < bridge_> no help for closed sourcerers 07:46 < bridge_> 😬 08:33 < bridge_> o.0 08:33 < bridge_> (<@302059820905922560_=47it=48ub>) 08:38 < bridge_> Does this at every con ready? That would explain why connecting to local host is also so slow xd 09:04 < bridge_> client info? 09:06 < bridge_> patched it and nothing changed honestly xd 09:07 < bridge_> or maybe i don't pay attention on every server load 09:21 < ws-client1> not faster? 09:21 < ws-client1> sadness 09:22 < ws-client1> maybe its just an edge case 10:13 < bridge_> afaict, yes 11:55 < ChillerDragon> anyone else got irc ads in dms? :D 11:57 < ChillerDragon> jopsti just flush every message client and server side and turn on high bandwidth on server. it quadrouples the overall smoothness and takes up only 10gb/s 12:12 < ws-client1> xd, i dunno how much it increases traffic, but most traffic happens bcs of snapshots or not? 12:14 < ws-client1> how much overhead has our packet batching structure, if we have such a thing.. then u can estimate it xd 12:15 < ws-client1> @chillerdragon u the network doc, shows some docs mr doc 12:16 < bridge_> Jupstar: every snapshot flushes 12:16 < ChillerDragon> ye wat heinrich said 12:16 < ChillerDragon> the gameplay relevant part is fast 12:16 < bridge_> no reason to flush on every message 12:16 < bridge_> it's already being flushed every 20ms 12:16 < ChillerDragon> i was obv troling 12:17 < ws-client1> yeah but why not do the theoretical calculation 12:18 < bridge_> during normal gameplay, I'd guess emote messages are the most common ones 12:18 < ChillerDragon> i dont even understand which calc u mean 12:18 < bridge_> https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/06.html: integer packig → integer packi**n**g 12:18 < ws-client1> if u'd directly flush every msg, instead of batching 12:19 < ChillerDragon> knackig packig 12:19 < ChillerDragon> thank heinrich 12:19 < ws-client1> how much traffic would u safe if u'd do a different compression approach than huffman? 12:19 < ws-client1> @chillerdragon pls calc 12:20 < bridge_> I tried to use zstd instead of huffman 12:20 < bridge_> could only get it to a level comparable to huffman 12:20 < bridge_> (zstd with dictionary) 12:22 < bridge_> ChillerDragon: got any docs on the ddnet protocol? 12:23 < bridge_> the low-level ddnet 0.6 network extensions 12:23 < ws-client1> would defs be interesting depending on size of packet and compression algorithm used^^ 12:24 < bridge_> I'm not aware of better compression algorithms than zstd 12:24 < bridge_> (we also want fast compression/decompression) 12:24 < bridge_> if you tell me one, I could try 12:24 < ws-client1> i dunno, when i google there are many popping up with different pros and cons 12:25 < ws-client1> most apparently focus on speed 12:25 < ws-client1> https://github.com/lz4/lz4#benchmarks 12:25 < bridge_> zstd has better compression ratio than zstd AFAIK 12:25 < bridge_> zstd has better compression ratio than lz4 AFAIK 12:25 < bridge_> We saw it heinrich 12:26 < bridge_> so lz4 is likely worse than our current compression 12:26 < ws-client1> but doesnt it always depend on the data 12:26 < bridge_> note that we probably need some sort of dictionary 12:26 < bridge_> not sure if lz4 supports that 12:26 < bridge_> yes. I tested it on teeworlds packet data 12:26 < bridge_> (not lz4, but I know that zstd usually performs better than zstd) 12:26 < bridge_> (not lz4, but I know that zstd usually performs better than lz4) 12:27 < ws-client1> mh i see 12:27 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 no i got no ddnet docs. but need some bcs idk how ddnet protocol works 12:27 < ws-client1> and if performance would not matter? 12:27 < ChillerDragon> i will probably write some as soon as i start learning ddnet protocol 12:27 < bridge_> if performance would not matter, one could look into lzma 12:27 < bridge_> but that's rather for long-term data storage 12:28 < bridge_> not on-the-fly compression ^^ 12:28 < ws-client1> well i am impressed that huffman handles so well tbh 12:28 < ws-client1> is it even considered a compression algorithm, or more like packing? 12:28 < bridge_> it replaces bytes by bit sequences 12:28 < bridge_> e.g. the byte 0x00 is replaced by the bit sequence 0 12:29 < bridge_> e.g. the byte 0x00 is replaced by the bit sequence 1 12:29 < bridge_> https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/blob/f508384d259c5ee49e68d42af90d0317003e721c/doc/huffman.md#appendix 12:29 < bridge_> see here for the full replacement list 12:29 < ws-client1> so i assume the packets are simply too small to be worth for the overhead of compression libs which use some kind of dictionary? 12:29 < ChillerDragon> huffman is nice if you know how your data looks like 12:29 < bridge_> that's exactly where dictionaries shine 12:30 < bridge_> small packets 12:30 < bridge_> because they give the compressor context it can reference 12:30 < bridge_> zstd with dictionary performed much better than zstd without 12:30 < bridge_> (I generated a custom dictionary for teeworlds packets) 12:30 < ws-client1> but still struggled against huffman? 12:30 < bridge_> I think it was comparable 12:31 < bridge_> huffman vs (zstd with dict) 12:31 < bridge_> note that it's not strictly huffman, I guess 12:31 < bridge_> it always takes the shorter of huffman and plain 12:33 < bridge_> ``` 12:33 < bridge_> 615381 test_10000/a 12:33 < bridge_> 585381 test_10000/compressed 12:33 < bridge_> 933175 test_10000/uncompressed 12:33 < bridge_> 760047 test_10000/zstd-default 12:34 < bridge_> 534983 test_10000/zstd-dict 12:34 < bridge_> 534249 test_10000/zstd-dict-nocontentsize 12:34 < bridge_> 573934 test_10000/zstd-dict-nodictid 12:34 < bridge_> ``` 12:34 < bridge_> not sure what `a` is 12:34 < ChillerDragon> xd 12:34 < bridge_> these are 10000 teeworlds packets 12:35 < ws-client1> compressed = what currently is used? 12:35 < bridge_> yes 12:35 < ws-client1> a = noby 12:35 < bridge_> ah. `a` is likely the original packet data 12:35 < bridge_> with packet header 12:35 < bridge_> since it's exactly 3 * 10000 bytes larger than `compressed` 12:36 < bridge_> I guess there are some wins with `zstd-dict` 12:36 < bridge_> ~10% 12:36 < bridge_> creates a dict distribution problem though ^^ 12:37 < ws-client1> i wonder how much and/or if lzma max can beat that 12:37 < bridge_> I didn't use zstd max either 12:37 < bridge_> I wonder if lzma max can beat zstd with dict 12:37 < bridge_> probably not 12:37 < bridge_> because it's lots of small files 12:39 < bridge_> I can share the files if you want to run experiments on them @jupeyy_keks 12:39 < ws-client1> did u also benchmark, i wonder if e.g. simd benefits zstd against huffman which we implement our own 12:40 < bridge_> I think zstd was not clearly faster than huffman 12:41 < bridge_> want to have the files? 12:41 < bridge_> Sooner or later i have to write benchmarks indeed, i have to decide which compression i want to use. 12:41 < bridge_> Are the files simply byte arrays? 12:41 < bridge_> yes 12:41 < bridge_> Guess can't hurt to have them^^ 12:41 < bridge_> but if you roll your own protocol, you probably need to use your own 12:42 < bridge_> Yes 12:43 < bridge_> It bin codes everything anyway. So many zeros fall apart xd 12:43 < bridge_> bincode? 12:43 < ws-client1> yes 12:43 < ws-client1> the rust crate 12:43 < bridge_> ah 12:44 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126101267266150431/test_10000.tar.zstd 12:44 < ws-client1> ty 12:45 < bridge_> (you want to compress the files in the `uncompressed` directory) 12:50 < bridge_> oh, I got IRC spam 13:03 < bridge_> ChillerDragon 13:03 < bridge_> im making a grammar aware ddnet config parser 13:03 < bridge_> grammar aware cuz sounds cool 13:03 < bridge_> and cuz using lr 13:12 < bridge_> Nice for what 13:13 < ws-client1> not "for what", but "in what". In rust 13:13 < ws-client1> xd 13:16 < bridge_> That part is obvious 13:17 < bridge_> But what can I use it for? Finally vim tab completion ? 13:18 < bridge_> Im pretty happy with my bash Config parser for checking correctness of config files 13:19 < bridge_> Compat omg phone 13:20 < bridge_> no 13:20 < bridge_> for example 13:20 < bridge_> its a good library in case u make a gui to edit ddnet configs 13:20 < bridge_> im sure ur bash config parser doesnt show the errors indicated liike rust does with source code 13:20 < bridge_> and mine is probs faster 13:21 < bridge_> cuz LR(1) 13:21 < bridge_> and rust 13:23 < bridge_> Currently working on something compression related, you may wanna look at this paper 13:23 < bridge_> https://www.areinhardt.de/publications/2012/Ringwelski_Energycon_2012.pdf 13:23 < bridge_> Did a quick test run with the files above and got a small improvement using LZMH: 584338 vs 585381. Can probably be improved if someone knows about that stuff (I don't...) 13:23 < bridge_> Here is the example code of the paper 13:23 < bridge_> https://github.com/CenterForSecureEnergyInformatics/data-compressor/blob/master/DataCompressor/DCLib/src/lzmh.c 13:24 < bridge_> permalink: https://github.com/CenterForSecureEnergyInformatics/data-compressor/blob/2cf54f24dd109952f78d9836b5bccbc7fcb9a3bf/DataCompressor/DCLib/src/lzmh.c 13:25 < bridge_> @wollwolki zstd with dictionary seems to perform better than that lzmh 13:25 < bridge_> what files above? 13:26 < bridge_> I deleted the discord again because I don't remember where I got them from 13:26 < bridge_> I deleted the discord message again because I don't remember where I got them from 13:28 < bridge_> But don't you need to distribute the dict for that? Or did i miss something 13:28 < bridge_> yes, need to distribute a dict with the client 13:28 < bridge_> but imho compression on the fly needs to be fast, even if slightly less efficient compressing no? 13:28 < bridge_> I'd consider that fine 13:29 < bridge_> yes. zstd was okay fast IIRC 13:29 < bridge_> @heinrich5991 did u try arithmetic coding? 13:29 < bridge_> zstd uses something like arithmetic coding internally 13:30 < bridge_> LZMH is too fast for the time measurment accuray of their testbench, would need to adjust that for these small files 13:33 < bridge_> ChillerDragon: does ur config parser check against config types, min max etc? 13:33 < bridge_> my crate parses the header file 13:37 < ChillerDragon> mine also parses the header file but only checks if the config exists or not 13:37 < bridge_> nobo 13:37 < ChillerDragon> yea its actually a good idea to do more checks also like str vs int 13:38 < ChillerDragon> the nice thing about my setup is that it checks the code of the actual server it will run 13:38 < ChillerDragon> so it supports custom mods 13:39 < ChillerDragon> @ryozuki thats how my warnings look like 13:39 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688295370.png 13:39 < ChillerDragon> shoutout to jopsti 13:40 < bridge_> ye mine loads the config options at runtime 13:40 < bridge_> also color str int 13:40 < ChillerDragon> ah nice 13:40 < bridge_> and saves the symbol 13:40 < bridge_> and desc 13:40 < ChillerDragon> where does it look for the header files? 13:40 < ChillerDragon> now im motivated to improve my bash version 13:41 < ChillerDragon> but i really got other stuff todo x 13:42 < ws-client1> @chillerdragon why was the value even on 0.1? that alone sounds wrong to me.. or was it just a test? XD 13:42 < bridge_> ? 13:43 < bridge_> macro config 13:43 < ChillerDragon> ye 13:43 < bridge_> macro config has everything 13:43 < ChillerDragon> @Jupstar worked on my machine 13:43 < ws-client1> so it evaluated to zero 13:43 < ChillerDragon> does it parse the macro config at runtime? 13:43 < ws-client1> bcs string could not be parsed to int 13:43 < ChillerDragon> @Jupstar there was a time or mod where 0 crashed the server and 0.1 didnt 13:44 < ChillerDragon> using it eversince and worked wonderfully 13:44 < ws-client1> it makes no sense tho xD 13:44 < ChillerDragon> pst 13:44 < bridge_> ye 13:44 < ChillerDragon> yes 13:44 < ChillerDragon> so where does it look for the macro file? 13:44 < ChillerDragon> do i have to provide on when using the lib? 13:44 < ChillerDragon> one* 13:44 < bridge_> for now i copied it 13:44 < ChillerDragon> so u ship it? 13:44 < bridge_> ill make so u pass a path 13:45 < ChillerDragon> a 13:45 < ChillerDragon> k 13:45 < ChillerDragon> ok nice so i can use ur lib as a dropin replacement for mine 13:45 < bridge_> it also saves the cfg flags 13:45 < ChillerDragon> if i decide to rewrite in rust 13:45 < ChillerDragon> but rust is such a bloat 13:45 < bridge_> no u 13:46 < bridge_> rust runs on windows 🙂 13:46 < ChillerDragon> bash does too 13:47 < ChillerDragon> also not planning to switch back to windows servers anytime soon 13:47 < ChillerDragon> my shell scripts start my tw server 13:47 < ChillerDragon> its bloat to install rust and cargo and cargo install 10min to run a tw server 13:47 < ChillerDragon> while bash compiles and runst blazingly fast and is preinstalled 13:47 < bridge_> not on windows 13:48 < bridge_> bash is very much a second-class citizen on windows 13:48 < ChillerDragon> yes 13:48 < ChillerDragon> but then not even microsoft uses windows for servers 13:48 < ChillerDragon> so who cares 13:49 < bridge_> I'd probably use python over bash tbf 13:49 < ChillerDragon> python has similar bloat level to rust 13:49 < bridge_> also comes preinstalled and is an actually useful programming language ^^ 13:49 < ChillerDragon> havent seen a distro with preinstalled python yet 13:49 < bridge_> what do you mean by "bloat" here? ^^ 13:49 < ChillerDragon> it has to be installed 13:49 < bridge_> weird name, but ok 13:49 < ChillerDragon> ok python is slimmer than rust i guess 13:50 < ChillerDragon> because no compile 13:50 < bridge_> I'd guess python is installed on every server you use 13:50 < ChillerDragon> yea i see 13:50 < ChillerDragon> for stuff like that i would always use bash over python 13:51 < ChillerDragon> most of the time im just launching other tools which is just smoother in bash 13:51 < ChillerDragon> python just slows down development time while not even offering much better static analysis if it works or not 13:52 < ChillerDragon> most issues are variable typos those are caught as good by shellcheck as they are by pylint 13:52 < ChillerDragon> but its taste i assume i am just more effective in bash than python 13:53 < ChillerDragon> omg daily ddnet language bashing xd 13:55 < ws-client1> its fine, python is evil 13:55 < ws-client1> it sets new benchmarks, in slowness xd 13:56 < ws-client1> the syntax is for masochists 13:56 < ws-client1> @chillerdragon when rewrite ddnet in bash 13:56 < ws-client1> no other deps allowed 13:58 < bridge_> bash is pretty useless without external programs 13:59 < ws-client1> ^ @chillerdragon challenge for u 14:34 < bridge_> I want to talk to a superior from ddnet to talk about a particular topic that is necessary to be in the game 14:34 < ws-client1> go ahead 14:39 < bridge_> this chat right here 14:39 < bridge_> this is a open source game 14:39 < bridge_> unless its a critical security issue u should say it here 14:39 < bridge_> or a github issue 14:41 < bridge_> I am writing to address a matter of utmost importance to the gaming community, especially those hailing from the beautiful region of Galicia. I humbly request your esteemed consideration in adding the Galician flag to the renowned game, DDNet. 14:41 < bridge_> 14:41 < bridge_> Allow me to emphasize the significance of incorporating the Galician flag within the game's selection of flags. DDNet, as an online platform connecting players from diverse backgrounds, has proven to be a unifying force that transcends geographical and cultural boundaries. By introducing the Galician flag, the game can embrace the rich cultural heritage of this historic region and pay homage to its people. 14:41 < bridge_> 14:41 < bridge_> The Galician flag represents the aspirations, values, and identity of a distinct and vibrant community. By integrating it into DDNet, you have the unique opportunity to demonstrate the game's commitment to inclusivity and recognition of its global player base. The sense of pride and belonging experienced by Galician players when they see their flag displayed alongside others will undoubtedly strengthen the sense of community within the g 14:41 < bridge_> 14:41 < ChillerDragon> @Jupstar some dude wrote a mc server in bash i think it ended up super wonkey because he ran into some limits 14:41 < bridge_> Moreover, introducing the Galician flag aligns with the broader vision of fostering cultural appreciation and understanding within the gaming community. As players from different corners of the world come together, they exchange not only gaming experiences but also glimpses of each other's cultures. By representing the Galician culture in the game, DDNet can become a powerful instrument for promoting cultural diversity, respect, and frie 14:41 < bridge_> 14:41 < bridge_> I understand that incorporating new elements into an established game requires careful consideration and technical implementation. However, I am confident that your talented development team possesses the necessary expertise to achieve this endeavor successfully. The inclusion of the Galician flag will undoubtedly be met with enthusiasm from both the Galician players and the wider DDNet community. 14:41 < bridge_> In conclusion, I implore you to recognize the significance of this proposal and take steps to include the Galician flag in DDNet. Your commitment to diversity and cultural appreciation will undoubtedly be celebrated by players worldwide, fostering a stronger sense of community and making the game an even more enjoyable and inclusive experience 14:41 < bridge_> a 14:42 < bridge_> lmao 14:42 < bridge_> @tormenta_de_facha u know the catalan flag is there cuz i translated this to catalan 14:42 < bridge_> but unless u translate to galician, i doubt it would be added 14:43 < bridge_> can we get the my backyard flag 14:43 < ChillerDragon> can we ban chatgpt users pls? 14:43 < bridge_> the whole message? 14:43 < bridge_> huh? 14:43 < bridge_> not chatgpt 14:43 < bridge_> the worst is im sure this guy would be against adding catalan flag kek 14:43 < bridge_> no 14:43 < ChillerDragon> your wall of text is too big 14:43 < bridge_> the whole game :troll: 14:43 < bridge_> i don t critise any flag 14:43 < bridge_> tldr: he wants to add his spanish regional flag 14:43 < bridge_> I actually see no reason why this flag shouldn’t be added. just add it 14:43 < bridge_> create a pool request 14:44 < bridge_> cuz there are many more like this 14:44 < bridge_> i personally wouldnt mind either 14:44 < bridge_> I want to have the recognition to all Galician players 14:44 < bridge_> all 3 of them 14:44 < bridge_> its probs just u bro 14:44 < bridge_> ⛲ 14:44 < ws-client1> then also lets add NRW flag xd 14:44 < ChillerDragon> xd 14:44 < ws-client1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Rhine-Westphalia 14:44 < bridge_> no 14:44 < ws-client1> its a bundesland 14:44 < bridge_> that text is chathpt for sure 14:45 < bridge_> i still remember this one 14:45 < bridge_> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3639 14:45 < ChillerDragon> the text is spam for sure 14:45 < bridge_> I know people wrote texts like that before chatgpt 14:45 < bridge_> konsti would ask a certain flag kek 14:45 < ws-client1> only important flag is taiwan 14:45 < ChillerDragon> also if we add any flags lets add lgbtq+69 rainbow flag first because its nice 14:45 < bridge_> maybe it is but i want to have it on the game for the galician players 14:46 < bridge_> that is not a region 14:46 < bridge_> Galician yes 14:46 < ChillerDragon> i feel offended 14:46 < bridge_> maybe we should remove flags 😄 14:46 < ChillerDragon> yikes 14:46 < ws-client1> add country flags, and regional flags. And put taiwan to country flags 14:46 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126131966132092980/image.png 14:46 < ws-client1> trigger inc 14:46 < bridge_> 1 year message 14:46 < bridge_> the people change 14:46 < bridge_> and still no meaning to add any new regional flag kekw 14:47 < ws-client1> i think we once said that we only allow new flags where wikipedia says its a country flag 14:47 < ws-client1> and this isnt the case for yours @tormenta_de_facha 14:47 < bridge_> ur best bet is to translate ddnet to galician 14:47 < bridge_> if so ddnet should have been added like 89 new flags (russian states) 14:47 < bridge_> I think if you translate the game into galician, it'll definitely be accepted 14:47 < bridge_> this is how i got the catalan flag in 14:47 < ws-client1> lmao 14:47 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 compare the gpt wall english with his other messages 14:48 < ws-client1> yeah @chillerdragon i agree 14:48 < ChillerDragon> he is clearly too lazy to write an actual proposal and just spams a wall of text that is ai generated 14:48 < bridge_> that seems kinda ridiculous to me man I don’t see why there shouldn’t be a flag for every actual geographical region with people willing to make the flag 14:48 < bridge_> we live in ai society 14:48 < ws-client1> " However, I am confident that your talented development team possesses the necessary expertise to achieve this endeavor successfully. " 14:48 < ChillerDragon> its not better than telegram ads imo 14:48 < ws-client1> that sentence alone 14:48 < bridge_> lot of political issues 14:48 < bridge_> who cares 14:48 < ChillerDragon> i care 14:48 < bridge_> some ppl recognize regions and others not 14:48 < bridge_> we can also do free-for-all flags 14:48 < bridge_> there is no political affiliation 14:49 < bridge_> then we'd get a couple of non-regional flags as well though 14:49 < bridge_> why 14:49 < ChillerDragon> @ryozuki > konsti would ask a certain flag kek 14:49 < ChillerDragon> :justatest: 14:49 < bridge_> lets add catalan independence flag 14:49 < bridge_> anyway players still can add flag of theirs if they want to 14:49 < bridge_> but in their game client folders 14:50 < ChillerDragon> flags.teeskins.net download server when 14:50 < bridge_> bruh 14:50 < ChillerDragon> xd 14:50 < bridge_> another vram collapse coming xd 14:50 < bridge_> unclear why we'd limit it to regional flags if we open it up, I think 14:50 < bridge_> because the flag signifies where you are from… 14:50 < ws-client1> @gerdoe XDDD 14:51 < bridge_> i want barcelona city flag 14:51 < ws-client1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_M%C3%BCnster#/media/File:Siegel_Universitaet_Muenster.svg 14:51 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126133320061820948/Flag_of_Barcelona.svg.png 14:51 < ws-client1> i want my university 14:51 < ChillerDragon> i want flag vital 14:51 < bridge_> you can already have that using countries. you're probably in the areas of one of these states 14:52 < ChillerDragon> and flag flush 14:52 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126133391423713361/StEfpcOTROn03y1ej0tHIpddlREXpWGSTjKgoHYqMKtqidRN7IhsqSschrRBRekoZJYsqCgdhOySARWlQ5BflaOidATVUE7fzS1POFWIitLDr5IqQkXpwVdLmb6bW54ItE8yKkqPvIqSnFWUHnhVJREVpYddXTkOSEFF6VFXW1JQUXrMVRdApdzNvtJD3gCVjYrSA94QlYmK0sPdGO1rKgcVpUe7USoHFaXHumHa11SyKUoPdQN1oNTbHUoPdCO111CaKf8HLuLXZb0lv4UAAAAASUVORK5CYII.png 14:52 < bridge_> the best flag 14:52 < ChillerDragon> is the image embedded in the url? 14:52 < bridge_> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Cusco_(2021).svg 14:52 < bridge_> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hallum_vlag.svg 14:52 < bridge_> might as well add the lgbt flag proper if we add these ^^ 14:52 < ChillerDragon> did discord switch to 0 storage cdns? 14:53 < bridge_> :troll: 14:53 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126133651021774888/Flag_of_Tatarstan.svg.png 14:53 < bridge_> this even is a flag 14:53 < ws-client1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag#/media/File:Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg 14:53 < bridge_> :troll: 14:53 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126133759691997377/1200px-estelada_blava-svg.png 14:53 < ws-client1> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg 14:53 < bridge_> southern catalans? 14:53 < ws-client1> * 14:53 < bridge_> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg 14:54 < bridge_> independent movement of catalonia flag 14:54 < bridge_> if cataluña flag is on the game why galician can t be? 14:54 < bridge_> oh 14:54 < bridge_> he already said 14:54 < bridge_> you don’t read 14:54 < bridge_> Who needs more than the world flag xd 14:54 < bridge_> cuz game is in catalan 14:54 < bridge_> if you translate the game into galician, the flag is probably going to be added 14:54 < bridge_> if i translate whole game 14:54 < bridge_> yes 14:54 < bridge_> i told u 14:54 < ChillerDragon> because chatgpt proposals are auto rejected 14:54 < bridge_> 10 times 14:54 < bridge_> kek 14:54 < bridge_> i wish there's no help from middle east to force cataloons to rebel 14:54 < bridge_> okay 14:54 < ws-client1> NATO flag xd 14:55 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 chatgpt translation incoming xd 14:55 < bridge_> no 14:55 < bridge_> do we have someone in the community who can speak galician btw? 14:55 < bridge_> who can proofread the translation 14:55 < bridge_> im from galician i now how to translate 14:55 < bridge_> when can we get the new spain flag 14:55 < bridge_> catalan flag is alredy there 14:55 < bridge_> already 14:55 < bridge_> all my galician homies 14:55 < ChillerDragon> xd 14:55 < bridge_> no i mean new spain 14:55 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126134379530424471/Screenshot_2023-07-05-14-55-51-652_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg 14:56 < bridge_> the underground country 14:56 < ChillerDragon> @tater add flags download server 14:56 < bridge_> 😬 14:56 < ChillerDragon> i wanna dl ryos rust flag 14:56 < bridge_> for translation how i can start 14:56 < bridge_> @ryozuki is catalan similar to spanish? 14:56 < ws-client1> can i also add bayrisch 14:56 < ChillerDragon> :beer: 14:56 < bridge_> yes, Jupstar 14:56 < ws-client1> epic 14:56 < bridge_> bairisch* 14:56 < bridge_> btw 14:56 < ChillerDragon> can u even speak it? 14:57 < ws-client1> now i just have to learn it xd 14:57 < ws-client1> @chillerdragon no but u 14:57 < ChillerDragon> no way its bairisch? 14:57 < ChillerDragon> i cant 14:57 < bridge_> it's Bairisch 14:57 < ChillerDragon> where in german? 14:57 < bridge_> what should I eat 14:57 < bridge_> its similar but its its own language, u may understand a bit as a spanish, just like a spanish can recognize some portugese or italian 14:57 < bridge_> food 14:57 < ChillerDragon> prezels 14:57 < ChillerDragon> and schweinebraten 14:57 < bridge_> is it closer to spanish than portuguese is to spanish? 14:57 < bridge_> portugese is the same as galician 14:57 < ws-client1> grüß gott 14:57 < ChillerDragon> servus 14:58 < bridge_> it is facts 14:58 < bridge_> ye 14:58 < ws-client1> we can add it at 1. april 14:59 < bridge_> now I wonder if catalan-spanish is closer than swiss german-german 14:59 < bridge_> catalonia is quite old too 14:59 < bridge_> (swiss german is incomprehensible to me) 14:59 < ws-client1> grüzi 15:00 < bridge_> > In 1137, Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Barcelona betrothed the heiress of the Kingdom of Aragon, Petronilla, establishing the dynastic union of the County of Barcelona with Aragon, the Crown of Aragon, while the County of Barcelona and the other Catalan counties merged into a political entity, the Principality of Catalonia,[3] which developed an institutional system (Courts, constitutions, Generalitat) that limited the power of the kings. Catalon 15:00 < bridge_> spain exists since 1700 or so 15:01 < bridge_> no 15:01 < bridge_> 1492 15:01 < bridge_> Spain have so much history 15:02 < bridge_> the state germany exists since like 1871 ^^ 15:02 < bridge_> ???? 15:02 < ws-client1> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Pirate_Flag_of_Jack_Rackham.svg 15:02 < bridge_> search it 15:02 < ws-client1> we also need to care about our pirates 15:02 < ws-client1> "Republic of Pirates 1706–1718 " 15:06 < ChillerDragon> so many cool flags 15:06 < ChillerDragon> at least ddnet already has a dragon flag :) 15:06 < ChillerDragon> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ddnet/ddnet/master/data/countryflags/BT.png 15:07 < bridge_> where is the traduction for ddnet? 15:07 < bridge_> you need to edit text files 15:08 < bridge_> if you download ddnet, you can find it in data/languages 15:08 < bridge_> yea 15:08 < bridge_> okay 15:08 < bridge_> editing an existing file would be easiest for testing 15:08 < bridge_> thx 15:09 < bridge_> hi 15:10 < bridge_> If we add random languages to the game, we need a concept of fall back languages. If we don't have that yet 15:10 < bridge_> Bcs i kinda doubt the maintainer will stay active xd 15:11 < bridge_> how up-to-date is the catalan translation? 15:12 < bridge_> we should™ get a better translation UI than text files 15:13 < ws-client1> best would be over web, with directly upload/sync or smth (with accounts probs) 15:13 < bridge_> we could use something like this: https://weblate.org/en/ 15:19 < bridge_> tr files not good enough? 15:20 < bridge_> plenty of tr editors 15:20 < bridge_> what is tr? 15:23 < bridge_> ts. sorry 15:23 < bridge_> Typescript? Xd 15:24 < bridge_> what is ts? 15:27 < bridge_> im thinking of po apparently 15:27 < bridge_> brainmoment 15:27 < bridge_> ah 15:27 < bridge_> well, we don't support po right now ^^ 15:28 < bridge_> i think theres a bug in the serbian translations 15:28 < bridge_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1126142451187449956/image.png 15:28 < ws-client1> well i dont speak serbian 15:28 < ws-client1> so maybe just fix it? xd 15:29 < bridge_> ok 15:29 < bridge_>