00:03 < bridge_> <teero777> hey what exactly is GameTickTime in the CGameClient its used for rendering a bunch of stuff? how is it calculated? (ping me im going to go sleep now)
01:07 < bridge_> <Ewan> probably by the backend get ticks fn
01:11 < bridge_> <Ewan> actually i don’t think ddnet has multiple backends for system stuff like that, i think it’s just sdl baked in
07:22 < bridge_> <teero777> hey what exactly is GameTickTime in the CGameClient its used for rendering a bunch of stuff? how is it calculated?
08:30 < bridge_> <Ewan> ————————
08:43 < bridge_> <teero777> it isnt but i decided to not care so no need to answer the question above anymore
08:44 < bridge_> <teero777> it isnt but i decided to not care so there is no need to answer the question above anymore
10:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ⚠️ update
10:54 < bridge_> <Ewan> 🥺
11:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Hype
11:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> @ryozuki today on ffr,i have to ask you. Do you know a crate for a hashmap that can be copied at once.. basically like Vec copy from slice.. but i don't need the requirement of only copying a slice. It's ok if I copy the full hashmap. I just don't want it to create heap allocations for every insert
11:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> hm wdym?
11:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> inserts dont do heap allocations always
11:07 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> yeah, but if a new bucket is openeed?
11:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> only when the hashmap load factor is unoptimal
11:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> when it needs more buckets*
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so what do u want exactly?
11:08 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i basically want this: hashmap.reserve(otherhashmap.size()); hashmap.copy_content(other)
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can do with_capacity
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/collections/struct.HashMap.html#method.with_capacity
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Creates an empty HashMap with at least the specified capacity.
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
11:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> The hash map will be able to hold at least capacity elements without reallocating. This method is allowed to allocate for more elements than capacity. If capacity is 0, the hash map will not allocate.
11:08 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> basically a hashmap that uses a Vec internally, even if that means that the hashmap is less efficient in inserting ^^^
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> hashmap uses vec internally already
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> have u ever implemented a hashmap?
11:09 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> mh ok
11:09 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i'd have thought all buckets are extra vecs
11:09 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> good to know
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it uses quadratic probing, the quadratic probe is how it probes along the array/vector
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> look at my smol map
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it doesnt reallocate cuz its on the stack
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but its a good way to see
11:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it uses linear probing tho
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/edg-l/smolmap
11:10 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ok then another question
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> <https://github.com/edg-l/smolmap/blob/master/src/lib.rs>
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> here
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rust
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> #[derive(Debug)]
11:10 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> does the hashmap also allow copying the full content of another hashmap?
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> pub struct SmolMap<K, V, const N: usize, S = RandomState> {
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     storage: [MaybeUninit<(K, V)>; N],
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     tags: [bool; N],
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     len: usize,
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     state: S,
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wdym by copying
11:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can .extend() a hashmap with another
11:11 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> and that makes no allocations?
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> just like with vectors
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> as long as it has enough capacity it doesnt
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> thats why with_capacity
11:11 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> but, wait
11:11 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> mb
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> capacity is how much is allocated
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> length is how much is used
11:11 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> does it copy the full hashmap like a memcpy?
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i mean if its a vec probs ye
11:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> or realloc
11:12 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> mhh ok, how the fuck do they do this?
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can always put ur values in a box
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and it will only memcpy a array of pointers xd
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wdym?
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u should implement a hashmap and learn how it works
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ah
11:12 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i have an idea how it works
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> reallocating in a hashmap is a bit more expensive
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> because u have to rehash
11:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> a bucket is basically the index of an hash
11:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> or th hash the index of the bucket
11:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i can explain simply:
11:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> and inside the bucket u have some space for elements
11:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> in best case 1 bucket  = 1 element
11:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> you have a a array that is ur storage, u have a hash function that  returns an integer, you have to mod that  integer to the length of your array
11:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> you willl ofc have hash colisions
11:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the method to solve hash colisions is the probing
11:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u have linear or quadratic probing
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> with the probe u check each slot of the array
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and if it isnt used
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> thats the slot
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> if its used
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> you check the key for match
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this is when inserting
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for get u just keep probing until the key matches, if u find a unused slot it means the key isnt there
11:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_addressing
11:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> so they have a fat huge vector for all buckets and possible collisions inside a bucket? and in worst case u need to reallocate the whole vector and recopy the full content?
11:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i'd have thought they choose a more dynamic approach
11:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> but now is just the question, can i memcpy the whole content of the internal Vec
11:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i basically want to clone a hashmap, but without heap allocation (which .clone() would do).. i basically want clone_into_this_storage(...)
11:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> basically copy_from_slice for Vec, just over the whole size of the Vec
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > Generally you create an array called "buckets" that contain the key and value, with an optional pointer to create a linked list.
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > 
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > When you access the hash table with a key, you process the key with a custom hash function which will return an integer. You then take the modulus of the result and that is the location of your array index or "bucket". Then you check the unhashed key with the stored key, and if it matches, then you found the right place.
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > 
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > Otherwise, you've had a "collision" and must crawl through the linked list and compare keys until you match. (note some implementations use a binary tree instead of linked list for collisions).
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> meh i dont like the thing i deleted, linked list bad
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> kek
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye best case is that the hash gives u directly the element
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this is why to know when to rehash/reallocate you calculate the load factor of the hashmap
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> which tells u how efficient the hashmap is right now
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124267310052556860/e3487807884a0c0748869a904c450c6c340f3533.png
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> where
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     n n is the number of entries occupied in the hash table.
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     m m is the number of buckets.
11:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a bucket is just a slot in a array
11:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/clone/trait.Clone.html#method.clone_from
11:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/clone/trait.Clone.html#method.clone_from
11:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> LOL
11:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> is this what u want?
11:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye
11:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> that timing xD
11:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > a.clone_from(&b) is equivalent to a = b.clone() in functionality, but can be overridden to reuse the resources of a to avoid unnecessary allocations.
11:19 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ok interesting, didnt know it can do that already, so mb :D
11:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but yeah a hashmap is just Vec<(key, value)>, the buckets are kinda dynamic, as in depends on how often the keys collide in a already used slot, i guess u could say a bucket extends however much slots the probing needs to probe when a hash collides
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> there is another way to implement hashmaps with closed addressing and chain
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i think that one uses linked lists
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and buckets are more like you thought
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but i think less efficient
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> linked listsb ad
11:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> linked lists bad
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> yeah depends ^^
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i could assume that the hashmap changes the hash algorithm based on the size (and maybe even generic type) anyway?
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> that a Vec might be more efficient, since it needs to reposion the underlaying elements anyway
12:33 < ws-client1> <chiler> woah respect jopsti for pulling the rusty friday 3rd time in a ro
12:33 < ws-client1> <chiler> dedication
12:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i missed last friday tho 😂 
12:34 < ws-client1> <chiler> nobodi noticed
12:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i was banned
12:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xd
12:34 < ws-client1> <chiler> F
12:35 < ws-client1> <chiler> nobodi noticed
12:35 < ws-client1> <chiler> nobodi miss u
12:35 < ws-client1> <chiler> axaxaxaxax
12:35 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> without me
12:35 < ws-client1> <chiler> i would ask what happend but i feel like discussing moderation will get me life banned
12:35 < ws-client1> <chiler> go #offtopuc
12:36 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> just search where ur bot was kicked xd
12:36 < ws-client1> <chiler> !
12:36 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> the truth should never die xD
12:36 < ws-client1> <chiler> im at work for once dont have my irc log w me
12:36 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ddnet also logs irc :D
12:36 < ws-client1> <chiler> ye
12:36 < ws-client1> <chiler> but webgrep
12:36 < ws-client1> <chiler> is not a thing
12:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124287520717406209/image.png
12:37 < ws-client1> <chiler> pog
12:37 < ws-client1> <chiler> menu
12:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @chiler 2023-06-20 10 o'clock
12:37 < ws-client1> <chiler> ty
12:38 < ws-client1> <chiler> https://ddnet.org/irclogs/2021-06-20.log
12:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> poggies
12:38 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> 2021
12:38 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> trollos
12:38 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> e wops
12:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> jupstar
12:39 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @ryozuki epic gemer moment
12:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> do u know there are perfect hash tables
12:39 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i watched that video yeah
12:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_hash_function
12:40 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> oh woah heinrich banned the bot cuz u used it to bypass ban axaxax?
12:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xDD
12:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> psst
12:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> _unjustified_
12:40 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the more i use bevy the more amazed i am
12:40 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it has epic state management
12:40 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> who did you even call a bot?
12:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> nobody?
12:41 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @ryozuki how so
12:41 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> u aint like teeworlds epic state management 😂 
12:41 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> u called someone out as reading convo like a bot 
12:41 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ah yeah
12:42 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> whp
12:42 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> but i was banned for the "Bro" XD
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rs
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> fn menu_setup(mut menu_state: ResMut<NextState<MenuState>>) {
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     menu_state.set(MenuState::Main);
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rs
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> #[derive(Clone, Copy, Default, Eq, PartialEq, Debug, Hash, States)]
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> enum MenuState {
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     Main,
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     Settings,
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     SettingsDisplay,
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     SettingsSound,
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     #[default]
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     Disabled,
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
12:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
12:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> mhh
12:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> 1. that is normal rust, 2. doesnt convince me tbh
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rs
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> impl Plugin for MenuPlugin {
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     fn build(&self, app: &mut App) {
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         app.add_state::<MenuState>()
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             .add_system(menu_setup.in_schedule(OnEnter(AppState::MainMenu)))
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             .add_systems((
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>                 main_menu_setup.in_schedule(OnEnter(MenuState::Main)),
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>                 despawn_screen::<OnMainMenuScreen>.in_schedule(OnExit(MenuState::Main)),
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             ))
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             // Common systems to all screens that handles buttons behaviour
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             .add_systems((menu_action, button_system).in_set(OnUpdate(AppState::MainMenu)));
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     }
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i have only this done yet
12:43 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
12:43 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> wot comments between method call chaining
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can allways lol
12:44 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> `despawn_screen::.in_schedule` never seen that syntax
12:44 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> what is that dot doing there
12:44 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> jopsti keep in mind
12:44 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> bridge breaks rs
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rs
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> pub fn despawn_screen<T: Component>(to_despawn: Query<Entity, With<T>>, mut commands: Commands) {
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     for entity in &to_despawn {
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         commands.entity(entity).despawn_recursive();
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     }
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> no its bevy magic
12:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it has traits over functions
12:44 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ChillerDragon/discord-irc/issues/9
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124289497232842752/image.png
12:45 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> interesting
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a system in bevy is a function
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its rly interesting
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the compile time reflection thing
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> bevy does
12:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for methods
12:46 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> does it do that without macros?
12:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> yeah no macros
12:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124290144313299004/image.png
12:47 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i wonder how that syntax works that it gives u some kind of object using only generics
12:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/alexpusch/rust-magic-function-params
12:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> here its  explained
12:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the technique used
12:47 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ty
12:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://docs.rs/bevy/latest/bevy/ecs/system/trait.SystemParam.html#foreign-impls
12:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> add_systems is limited to 12 functions passed at the same time, but u can simply call add_systems again for 12 more if needed xd
12:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124290625538363433/image.png
12:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and this way u can tell bevy how to execute and which order and in which state
12:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> each system
12:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> system = function
12:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> (in ecs)
13:15 <@heinrich5991> hamid is gone already :/
14:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> im making my own mlir ebuild cuz gentoo doesnt have it
14:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :BASED:
14:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> testing the ebuild only takes me 20 mins build time
14:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> <a:Deadneko:823430684680781879>
14:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> llvm is stupidly large
14:07 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> llvm?
14:07 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wait no whata mlir?
14:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> mlir is a llvm project
14:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> imho rly important in the near future
14:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> look at mojo for reference
14:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u will say meh cuz it says ai, but thats just 1 of the epic applications of mlir
14:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://www.modular.com/mojo
14:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > Mojo leverages MLIR, which enables Mojo developers to take advantage of vectors, threads, and AI hardware units.
14:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> crazy
14:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> how hard is it for people to say machine learning
14:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its the same ur just being pedantic
14:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> theres a difference between ai projects and machine learning projects; they both so the same thing but ai projects are trying to be Trendy
14:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the thing is, there is specialized hardware in this field (and also in other fields) but leveraging that with a common language is hard
14:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> MLIR is like a backend that targets all those specialized hardware platforms
14:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for example in the gpu field
14:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it has a gpu dialect, which can transform then into ROCM, cuda, vulkan,
14:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> etc
14:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it also targets llvm itself
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it also targets cpp
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it also can target torch
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://mlir.llvm.org/docs/Dialects/
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for parallel in cpu
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> omp
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for example
14:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> mlir itself is also a dialect xd
14:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and my ebuild failed yay
14:16 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wow
14:20 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this is probs ironic wow right
14:20 < bridge_> <ryozuki> <a:sadSnail:785072987815804929>
14:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/llvm/Polygeist
14:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this is a c++ compiler with mlir
14:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it can compile to cuda for example
14:21 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i say wow when i dont know what else to say
14:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wow
14:28 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://youtu.be/Dwj1-x9_Y4Q
14:28 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but it fixed it
14:29 < bridge_> <ryozuki> he automated it
14:29 < bridge_> <ryozuki> also videos are meh
14:29 < bridge_> <ryozuki> there was a blog post
14:29 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> videos are nice, but this video editor talks to much about useless stuff
14:29 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i figured
14:29 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> it got a bit boring anyways
14:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > The length this Linux dev is willing to go to fix a rare boot problem makes me really think about the amount of times I cursed Windows for resetting my computer randomly when I use it.
14:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > 
14:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > And people still say that Linux is bad.
14:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> good comment
14:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
14:31 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
14:31 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> propaganda
14:32 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> speaking of bug fixes
14:32 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124316536153325568/Screenshot_20230630_083214_Chrome.jpg
14:32 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> wow they fixed some bug
14:33 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> duude this is such good info!
14:33 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124316845487443998/Screenshot_20230630_083330_Chrome.jpg
14:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ok but fr windows copilot worst update
14:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124317850627231794/image.png
14:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :Prayge:
14:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124317935910010932/image.png
14:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
14:38 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> lol
14:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> love summer
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> lmao
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124321622061482135/image.png
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> wtf happened here
14:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> &mut &mut &mut &mut &mut
14:54 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> interesting that it doest show any useful error hint
14:56 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> weird indeed
14:56 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> got more details?
14:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> well i think i know why it happens
14:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> its just funny that it does it like this
14:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> let me try fixing it then i show the source
15:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ok the fix takes a while, but basically the problem is, that i wanted to serialize/deserialize smth using bincode (and serde)
15:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
15:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and since i passed a reference of my class to it, it seem to have tried to serialize the reference (the class didnt implement the required serde serialization)
15:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but i dunno why it tried it in a recursion
15:10 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> https://gfw.report/publications/usenixsecurity23/data/paper/paper.pdf
15:10 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> some analysis on gfw blocking patterns
15:10 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> see especially the algorithm on the top of page 4
15:25 < bridge_> <steinchen99> This button looks so weird.. is it normal?
15:25 < bridge_> <steinchen99> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124329891643531346/image.png
15:26 < bridge_> <robyt3> Can you be more specific?
15:26 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> is it the symbols? i think i prefer the symbols over text
15:27 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> maybe the height is too small?
15:27 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> whoever guesses it wins
15:27 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xd
15:27 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> the rounding?
15:27 < bridge_> <robyt3> They have the same height as before
15:27 < bridge_> <steinchen99> left doesnt look like its in the middle 
15:27 < bridge_> <steinchen99> and the right one has this weird outline
15:27 < bridge_> <steinchen99> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124330481652092969/image.png
15:28 < bridge_> <robyt3> Although it's weird how the buttons have a different height than the editboxes in the same row
15:28 < bridge_> <steinchen99> i'd prefer them being a bit bigger :D
15:29 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> bigger in width?
15:29 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or height
15:29 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xd
15:29 < bridge_> <steinchen99> LOL my client just crashed
15:29 < bridge_> <steinchen99> 10/10
15:29 < bridge_> <robyt3> Width is already maxed out on 5:4 resolutions
15:29 < bridge_> <robyt3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124330975032254474/image.png
15:29 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but yeah tbf, the button looks weird af
15:30 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124331112735453274/image.png
15:30 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> are the corners different size @robyt3 ?
15:30 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or why is the left corner so much bigger xd
15:30 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or is that just aliasing effect
15:31 < bridge_> <robyt3> No
15:31 < bridge_> <robyt3> It's pixel alignment issues I guess
15:31 < bridge_> <robyt3> Even the editbox corners don't look the same
15:31 < bridge_> <robyt3> Even the editbox corners don't look exactly the same
15:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ok, looks really really weird tho xD
15:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> right side has almost no corners
15:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> while left is like pure rounding
15:32 < bridge_> <robyt3> Same with text alignment, it's also unbalanced by 1 pixel
15:33 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> rip
15:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> >  The GFW uses at least five heuristic rules to
15:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > detect and block fully encrypted traffic. The censor applies
15:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > this algorithm to TCP connections sent from China to certain
15:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > IP subnets and employs probabilistic blocking
15:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :o
15:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @heinrich5991 the doc is made  with latex right?
15:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124332421454766101/image.png
15:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i love how this looks
15:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> latex is pog
15:36 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes, looks like latex
15:36 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I'd guess most technical papers are done using latex (in informatics, maths, physics, …)
15:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
15:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ❯ pdfinfo paper.pdf
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15:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Tagged:          no
15:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> UserProperties:  no
15:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Suspects:        no
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15:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
15:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> looks stripped
15:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > Use a non-TCP transport protocol. As introduced in Sec-
15:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > tion 4.4, UDP traffic does not trigger blocking. Currently, one
15:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > can circumvent censorship by simply switching to (or tunnel-
15:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > ing over) UDP or QUIC. This is merely a stopgap measure,
15:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > as the censor can enable their censorship for UDP.
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > Base64-encode the first packet. Recall that the GFW does
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > not censor connections if more than 50% of the first packet’s
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > 17
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > bytes are printable ASCII. One straightforward way to sat-
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > isfy this property would be to simply base64-encode all of
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > the encrypted traffic
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @heinrich5991 interesting bit
15:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to circumvent
15:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> is aliasing on buttons bad?
15:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> actually
15:47 < bridge_> <robyt3> I found it. The right button is just straight up 5.0f units smaller than the left one, which somehow messes up the corners
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i always found the round corners to look like bad quality
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> maybe we need more res
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
15:48 < bridge_> <robyt3> we need a shader for smooth round corners
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> that i can see rigged edges in 1080 triggers me
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i think rigged is the word
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> or not idk
15:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> jagged
15:49 < bridge_> <robyt3> MSAA would make the corners smooth, but it causes delay
15:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks when shader
15:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> is this geometry shader thing?
15:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> is this a geometry shader thing?
15:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> no
15:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u need multi sampling to fix it
15:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or other anti aliasing
15:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> since its partial circles in this case u can do "fake" anti aliasing
15:51 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> by simply doing less alpha/transparency towards the edges
15:51 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> it looks good enough
15:51 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> might even look as good as actual AA I guess
15:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i once tried it on cpu side, but its not that ez bcs its hard to predict how exactly the pixel would look like
15:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and i didnt want to write a full rasterizer xd
15:55 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ^^ makes sense
15:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but yeah we could probs fix it for newer GL versions
15:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> btw egui solves it over textures, circle textures of different sizes
15:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> also possible and works with any renderer
16:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> egui seems to use a less efficient text packing algorithm apparently
16:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124338693130432542/image.png
16:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> less efficient than we do
16:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> the matrix
16:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124339066641600664/image.png
16:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but sometimes ours also wastes quite a bit of space
16:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124339632298004510/image.png
16:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> since chinese players its much easier to fill the texture atlas 😬
16:04 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> this looks cool af
16:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i see its mostly bcs it was a 1024x1024 texture before and it then decided to do uneffective filling too
16:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> thats also why the left half is so filled
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and a simpler and much faster algorithm, but with more space wasting can be found here
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/796bc49cd448ea48e57b7ca7d3823be0d44f1829
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i think it would still beat egui 😄
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> interesting that this commit can be found on ddnet
16:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i cant remember ever PRing it
16:08 < bridge_> <robyt3> How hard would be blurry background for dropdown menus?
16:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i mean idk what im talking about but im pretty sure you would have to create like a seperare buffer for whatever's under the menu
16:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> besides idk how good that would look in ddnet
16:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> the algorithm is ez
16:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
16:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but u need a second framebuffer
16:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and switch between them every time u want to do blur
16:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> so 1. it gets very slow, bcs they have to wait on each other
16:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 2. its not an easy setup, especially with our 30000 backends xD
16:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> 3. its not teeish
16:11 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xd
16:11 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> blur looks cool af
16:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yeah but in the context of ddnet it doesnt rly fit the cartoonish casual vibe
16:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> @chillerdragon dont you agree
16:11 < bridge_> <robyt3> It's not like we add blur everywhere
16:12 < bridge_> <robyt3> Only for this specific use case, because the transparent dropdown background color never looks good otherwise
16:12 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> imo blur also gives better contrast, look here for example
16:12 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124341718393819226/image.png
16:12 < bridge_> <robyt3> Only for this specific use case, because the transparent dropdown background color never looks really good otherwise
16:14 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> that reminds me
16:14 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> we gotta create a figma project for ui stuff
16:15 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> its easier to concept
16:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> idc about gl only vulkan
16:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
16:16 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i said GL to mean vulkan too ^^
16:16 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but yeah tru
16:16 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> world would be easier
16:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks does the packign algo have a name?
16:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i remember  some
16:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> >  Technically, bin packing is NP-hard, so a heuristic is what I'm really after.
16:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/2829/texture-packing-algorithm
16:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_packing_problem
16:19 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
16:19 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124343340746424471/image.png
16:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i used skylines packing
16:20 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://penpot.app/
16:22 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> // skyline bottom left algorithm 
16:22 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
16:22 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> according to some comment i added in the code xd
16:23 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but i think i modified it slightly, but cant remember xd
16:23 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
16:23 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> its not the best for more efficient space
16:23 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but its very fast
16:24 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and this one is basically the same, but wastes a bit more space in trade for much more simplicitly
16:25 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> by caring less about perfect matches
16:25 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
16:25 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> since `most` characters have a similar width it works in most cases
16:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i remember
16:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> long ago i made a packing thing i copied mostly from internet too
16:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i think it was skyline too
16:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> in my supposed to be game engine
16:26 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/edg-l/SimpleGame/blob/master/src/engine/graphics/renderer.c#L144
16:26 < bridge_> <ryozuki> look
16:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this was when i was into PURE C ONLY
16:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @learath2 my game/engine in c only
16:27 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> thats the real Ryozuki
16:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its not functional at all tho xd
16:27 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> hi ravie
16:27 < bridge_> <ryozuki> hi ravie
16:28 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124345726458146846/image.png
16:28 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i remember having troubles rendering text xd
16:30 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> im sorry but 
16:30 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> dogshit variable names LOL
16:30 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :gigachad:
16:31 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> float oy;
16:32 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> dude teeworlds reference
16:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/noot-noot-meme-noot-noot-black-background-gif-26002556
16:33 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i hate this gif
16:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> gifs always take up so much space :/
16:33 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> :santatrollet: also true
16:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> jif or gif
16:34 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> gif that rhymes with stiff
16:34 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> that doesnt help wtf was i thinking
16:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i'd buy glass design 😬
16:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124347753129054218/image.png
16:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> 😬
16:37 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> excuse my 2 minutes gimp skillz xd
16:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> graphic design is your passion
16:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> why is the blacks less black
16:38 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> why are* the blacks less black
16:38 < bridge_> <ryozuki> windows moment
16:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> honest answer: i dunno
16:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> my answer: i tried to make it less constrasting, so u see the advantages of blurry designs
16:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> careful ur american
16:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> well that didnt rly help becuase its now unreadable
16:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
16:39 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> the text would get blurry outline as fix 😏
16:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> only you was thinking that
16:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> stop projecting :justatest:
16:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
16:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> only you were thinking that
16:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> stop projecting :justatest:
16:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this reminded me of the meme where a pencil says black in spanish and someone on twitter said it was racist
16:40 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i often check <https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Software%20and%20Game%20Development> and see how many devs  use windows
16:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and then im sad
16:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @ravie_ravie when will u finally write
16:42 < bridge_> <ravie_ravie> now
16:42 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> crazy
16:42 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ravie how do you feel about this
16:43 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i mean without win7 ugly icons, it's still one of the coolest desktop designes
16:43 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124349554964320376/image.png
16:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1014358/
16:44 < bridge_> <ravie_ravie> I think it's ugly, not a fan of background maps anyway, I prefer the classic look
16:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124349720945508372/116499-1.png
16:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> gnome linux
16:44 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😄 i have one for KDE
16:44 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but the arch theme is best imo 😄
16:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1014539
16:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> updated
16:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124350001393438850/image.png
16:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> hot af
16:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> looks good
16:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wanna see my desktop?
16:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> go ahead
16:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> mine is animated btw
16:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> clean af
16:45 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124350113964368012/image.png
16:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u ofc dont see it xd
16:46 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> why are the buttons censored
16:46 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> tw// close buttons
16:46 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124350290091573338/wp.mp4
16:46 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> this is my self made bg xd
16:46 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> oo
16:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ok midjourney did the image, and i used some tool to make it look like a video xd
16:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> totally my work
16:47 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ok nvm
16:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
16:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> voxel the hater
16:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> isnt that learath?
16:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this is how i use my desktop
16:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124350709056405504/desktop.mp4
16:48 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i have yet to make actual background for myself
16:48 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> rn its just smth i made for an art contest
16:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i dont want to ping learath
16:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks its form the anime
16:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> his pic is slightly diferent
16:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> .
16:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah but looks the same indeed
16:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> his banner pic xd
16:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its lucy
16:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> from cyberpunk anime
16:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i wonder if robyte knows them all, he is silent anime enjoyer
16:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-lucy-cyberpunk-edgerunners-moon-gif-26712682
16:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> silent weeb
16:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
16:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> idk i think he may not be that weeb
16:50 < bridge_> <ryozuki> weebs have  urge to share their weeb
16:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and he cant be watching anime
16:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> cuz he is coding ddnet
16:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> getting real work done
16:52 < bridge_> <ravie_ravie> @ryozuki when abolish the mouse altogether
16:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> kek
16:53 < bridge_> <ravie_ravie> it's a normie input method, imagine all the time you could be saving
16:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> indeed
16:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054265086862168084/1083254629397168138/DGTC_Rework_Wallpaper.png
16:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> my desktop wallpaper for now
16:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i won a free tshirt with this
17:03 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yeah dude i aim with arrow keys
17:03 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i fire with L and hook with ;
17:03 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> sooooo intuitive
17:22 < ChillerDragon> @_voxeldoesart i could see blur in teeish
17:23 < ChillerDragon> seen it in yt videos and wallpapers
17:23 < ChillerDragon> looked good
17:27 < ChillerDragon> @@avolicious how to get kog auth code?
17:29 < bridge_> <avolicious> on kog.tw
17:30 < ChillerDragon> i am there
17:30 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688139043.png
17:30 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688139052.png
17:30 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688139061.png
17:31 < ChillerDragon> no button left to click sos
17:31 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I needed to find some email in that state
17:31 < ChillerDragon> @avolicious send brain idk where to click next
17:31 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ?
17:31 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> the email was called "KoG 2.0 Account Migration", ChillerDragon
17:31 < ChillerDragon> @avolicious when bridge kog discord to irc so we dont have to do it on ddnet discord?
17:32 < ChillerDragon> i did verify the email days ago
17:32 < ChillerDragon> all worked fine
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u need to migrate i guess
17:32 < ChillerDragon> how
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> click
17:32 < ChillerDragon> pressing migrate button does nothing
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> button
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i guess
17:32 < ChillerDragon> it justr says im alr verified
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> check js output
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
17:32 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> find the email I specified above
17:32 < ChillerDragon> there is none
17:32 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> click the link again
17:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> cant help its closed source 🤷
17:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> you didn't get any email from KoG during the process?
17:33 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> when add gores section to ddnet
17:33 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 alr did that days ago should i do again?
17:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks lets make a new gores network
17:33 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes, that's what I'm saying ChillerDragon
17:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> emperor-of-gores
17:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> eog.net
17:33 < ChillerDragon> ok nice
17:34 < ChillerDragon> now it says might take some days
17:34 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> GGoresNetwork
17:34 < ChillerDragon> thank @heinrich5991 best kog support
17:34 < bridge_> <ryozuki> kek
17:34 < ChillerDragon> now we wait
17:34 < ChillerDragon> for fast koobernetes
17:34 < ChillerDragon> to migrate account
17:34 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u cant play
17:34 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u have to wait
17:34 < ChillerDragon> which takes 
17:35 < ChillerDragon> days
17:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> top user experience
17:35 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> @ryozuki i was ahead of our time
17:35 < bridge_> <avolicious> thanks @heinrich5991
17:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the kubernetes orchestration is doing its work
17:35 < bridge_> <matodor> don't forget to create an organization on github)
17:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it just takes days
17:35 < ChillerDragon> web scale
17:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its cuz its not made  in rust
17:35 < bridge_> <ryozuki> not blazing fast
17:35 < ChillerDragon> go
17:35 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> AnD SaFe
17:35 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> and doesnt make you a burger automatically
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @_voxeldoesart i knew i would invoke u
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> by saying that
17:36 < ChillerDragon> avo u need to activate sharding on your db
17:36 < ChillerDragon> to make it fast
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> no
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> he needs to pipe it
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to dev null
17:36 < ChillerDragon> yes also works
17:36 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> :nouis: 🖕
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> > I've always admired the write performance of the /dev/null schema-less database, the read performance however is a little lacking, but this is offset by /dev/null's data compression
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
17:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ryozukis tool kit
17:36 < bridge_> <ryozuki> “Shards are the secret ingredient in the webscale sauce you turn them on and they just work”
17:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> this video
17:37 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> some rust doc
17:37 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xd
17:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
17:37 < bridge_> <avolicious> There is a check going on in the background, nothing db related
17:37 < ChillerDragon> how does it take days
17:38 < bridge_> <avolicious> It runs all your data from the past years through
17:38 < bridge_> <avolicious> takes some time
17:38 < ChillerDragon> i see
17:38 < ChillerDragon> yikes data since 2015
17:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> your bot clients xDDD
17:38 < ChillerDragon> no proof
17:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> qshar had a proof xDD
17:38 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> where u used replay
17:38 < ChillerDragon> okay actually i got banned on kog dat true
17:38 < ChillerDragon> i even got a medal for it on my acc
17:39 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xD
17:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> what does it even check
17:39 < ChillerDragon> i think they removed that
17:39 < ChillerDragon> it said something along the lines of chiler is pr0 hax0r and was banned for life
17:40 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> back then u were pro.. u always spinned with every hook like crazy
17:40 < ChillerDragon> it was school project
17:40 < ChillerDragon> to chot
17:40 < ChillerDragon> i did like 1 rank on kog and one on ddnet
17:40 < ChillerDragon> kog banned my ass
17:40 < ChillerDragon> and ddnet i had to repeatedly ask to get my rank deleted
17:40 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i cant play my map on kog now cuz accounts
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i refuse to yield my email to kubernetes
17:41 < ChillerDragon> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxD
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :gigachad:
17:41 < ChillerDragon> sent from discord*
17:41 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> as if chiller didnt use some fake email
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> `gpg --keyserver keys.openpgp.org --recv-keys 230C94520D026311`
17:41 < ChillerDragon> i use my main mail
17:41 < ChillerDragon> chillerdragon@gmail.com
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> lol
17:41 < ChillerDragon> kog koobernetes can have all my mail
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> imagine not having self domain email
17:41 < ChillerDragon> its selfhosted go bloat
17:41 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i dont self host my mail
17:42 < ChillerDragon> the google captcha to login is the worst part
17:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but i have my mail with my domain
17:42 < ChillerDragon> but then
17:42 < ChillerDragon> i use gmail
17:42 < ChillerDragon> so i cant complain bout google 
17:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i keep receiving job offers through my email lol xd
17:42 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> most ppl play on non account servers
17:42 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124364334575919236/image.png
17:42 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> thats my last hope
17:42 < ChillerDragon> because migration is slow
17:42 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> spitball thought
17:42 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> teeworlds os
17:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124364394491543652/image.png
17:42 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> else ddnet has to kill kog, or i have to rq teeworlds
17:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> these guys
17:42 < bridge_> <ravie_ravie> nah for teeworlds you use a giant trackball and draw tee eyes on it
17:42 < bridge_> <ryozuki> dont know what htey talk about
17:43 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wait so if all servers need accounts then that means ddnet drops support.
17:43 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wait so if all servers need accounts then that means ddnet drops support?
17:44 < bridge_> <ryozuki> nah
17:44 < ChillerDragon> no then ddnet also adds account
17:44 < bridge_> <deni> on which site to migrate?
17:44 < ChillerDragon> https://kog.tw
17:44 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet best
17:45 < bridge_> <deni> thanks
17:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ddnet admins sadly are all no gores players
17:45 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> so they dont care
17:45 < bridge_> <wats> Beta version and release version different???
17:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye?
17:46 < bridge_> <wats> Like other client right?
17:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @interwats btw do u play dota? nice tango on your picture
17:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> beta i think is nightly right
17:46 < bridge_> <wats> Yes
17:46 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it uses the latest commit from last night
17:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/dota-funny-one-tango-please-lol-gif-16565616
17:47 < ChillerDragon> u wanna tryhard rank gores or just casually play?
17:47 < ChillerDragon> jopsti
17:47 < ChillerDragon> u can just host gores maps on your vps right?
17:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i just dont care about points
17:47 < ChillerDragon> ez then
17:47 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but i play hard or insane maps
17:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> omg
17:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> are u pro?
17:47 < ChillerDragon> so then put hard maps on server
17:47 < ChillerDragon> done?
17:47 < ChillerDragon> or not?
17:47 < bridge_> <wats> Keks
17:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> im retired xd
17:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
17:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> same
17:48 < ChillerDragon> jooopsti
17:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but last days were hard
17:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> deen suddenly wants to promote random servers
17:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> kog adds forced accounts
17:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> thats like complete kill of ddnet
17:48 < bridge_> <wats> Im playing with beta and release clients they have different in version?
17:48 < bridge_> <wats> Its for kog admins
17:48 < bridge_> <ryozuki> nah they are both ok for kog
17:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> they have slightly different versions yes
17:49 < ChillerDragon> jopsti u also want to kill ddnet
17:49 < ChillerDragon> with ddnet2
17:49 < bridge_> <ryozuki> does kog have some version requirement?
17:49 < ChillerDragon> yes you need windows 11 to play kog
17:49 < bridge_> <wats> They noticed the version change in me
17:49 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> chillerdragon: yeah, im slightly annoyed by heinrichs backward compability addiction
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah
17:50 < ChillerDragon> no but fr if you dont care about points is selfhosting gores maps not an option?
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> it sends some kind of hash so they can notice
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> chillerdragon:
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> so play the game without community
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> alone
17:50 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> epic
17:50 < ChillerDragon> i see
17:50 < ChillerDragon> u miss players
17:51 < ChillerDragon> AI is almost there
17:51 < ChillerDragon> just ask slats to spawn some players for you
17:51 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xd
17:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks im un confirmed in kog discord
17:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> they dont believe i am ryo
17:51 < ChillerDragon> gores.io web browser game
17:51 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :gigachad:
17:51 < bridge_> <wats> Thx
17:52 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> when was the last time we dropped capatability for an old version?
17:52 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> never
17:53 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> thats unhealthy
17:53 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ofc it is
17:53 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> every sane person knows that
17:53 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but its no use, i tried to talk to heinrich in pm
17:53 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> he likes the idea i had. but dislikes that i break backward compability xD
17:53 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> whats your idea
17:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ddnet 2.0
17:54 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> dont want to go into detail xd
17:54 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ah
17:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> break every possible compat
17:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> thats my idea
17:54 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> its mostly about how to fix e.g. ppl getting pissed by using stars instead of freeze bar etc.
17:54 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> like bro no ones gonna be using ddnet v11 in 2023
17:54 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> or other way around
17:55 < bridge_> <matodor> why is rendering in the editor at a large distance so lags?
17:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> bcs the CPU prepares all verticces
17:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and CPUs are slow when doing such tasks
17:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u dont know
17:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> konsti used ddnet with sdl1
17:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> for long
17:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> tru xD
17:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but well if ddnet would have dropped support, he'd have updated
17:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u have to force ppl to their luck
17:56 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
17:56 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
17:56 < bridge_> <ryozuki> dev revolution
17:56 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> 😬
17:56 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 🇫🇷
17:57 < ChillerDragon> pink rat
17:57 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> next time heinrich is afk for 2 months we have to be fast @ryozuki
17:57 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
17:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
17:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> true
17:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> he said that its how it works
17:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> active dev = control
17:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> if people get mad because their extremely ancient version of ddnet isnt supported anymore thats on them
17:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> like i understand losing compatability for a more recent old version would be a bad idea
17:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah 😄
17:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks but u and i cant release client
17:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so we doomed
17:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> but we cant just hold onto old code forever
17:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> apparently yes
17:58 < ChillerDragon> yes let go of the old 0.6 code
17:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> heinrichs problem is also the mods nobody will ever play xDD
17:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i wanna help with ddnet 2.0
17:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> perfect
17:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> start making a logo
17:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> when i get home
17:59 < bridge_> <matodor> :troll:
17:59 < bridge_> <matodor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124368532277313700/image.png
17:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks as usual, the best way is to convince the community, and hype em, so we actually need to code it, even if other devs say no, and then make some marketing, just ask @_voxeldoesart for fancy images  and convince the plebs
17:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yes
17:59 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> that can work
18:00 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> sounds good
18:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a bit of twinbops here and there
18:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and we got em
18:00 < ChillerDragon> xd
18:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
18:00 < ChillerDragon> sex sells
18:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> :brownbear: :heartw: :giftee_red: :giftee_green:
18:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> :brownbear::brownbear::brownbear: come join my new ddnet :brownbear::brownbear::brownbear:
18:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> works
18:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> lets do like dota, they called the big update reborn
18:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ddnet reborn
18:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and we put a tee angel floating
18:01 < ChillerDragon> ddnet reloaded
18:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> kek
18:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> more like born xd
18:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> rn ddnet is just teeworlds xd
18:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> phoenix tee
18:01 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i can maybe ask other ppl how they want their ddnet experience to be changed
18:01 < bridge_> <matodor> @jupeyy_keks  pls remove "dd" from ddnet 2.0
18:01 < bridge_> <matodor> and implement mods api :brownbear::brownbear::brownbear::brownbear:
18:02 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> dummy drag deluxe
18:02 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddd
18:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> dddnet
18:02 < ChillerDragon> xd
18:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> D EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
18:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> each update ads a d
18:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ddddnet
18:02 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> D EA Sports
18:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> encrypted e2e chat too, for tee esex at 3 am
18:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
18:03 < ChillerDragon> lol
18:04 < bridge_> <ryozuki> actually any server owner can read anything u say on sv
18:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> there were rumors that kog spies on chat messages
18:04 < bridge_> <ryozuki> in whispers too
18:04 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> that alone red flag xd
18:04 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
18:05 < bridge_> <deni> guys is there an instruction for migration?
18:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> pls waste the time of the creators
18:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://discord.kog.tw/
18:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> we wouldnt do smth like that
18:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @deni this discord is ddnet discord, not kog discord, go to kog discord to solve your issue
18:07 < bridge_> <deni> ok
18:07 < bridge_> <matodor> just use command line for migrate your database, for example in Laravel its like: `php artisan migrate`
18:07 < bridge_> <matodor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124370637427838986/image.png
18:07 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet 2.0 with a lighting system :brownbear:
18:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> :lol:
18:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> we see us in 3 years
18:07 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> xd
18:07 < ChillerDragon> just use unreal engine
18:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 3DDNet
18:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> DDD Net
18:08 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i mean ngl all id want are like 
18:08 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> special shaders and color correction things
18:08 < ChillerDragon> artist moment
18:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ddnet 2.0 with shaders for effects
18:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> skins can glow and have particles
18:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a hammer on fire with dynamic lighting
18:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> laser with rtx
18:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xD
18:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yeah :feelsbadman:
18:09 < ChillerDragon> and u can buy skins
18:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> glow would already be cool
18:09 < ChillerDragon> open loot boxes
18:09 < ChillerDragon> and add accounts
18:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> @ryozuki i hate how id actually love those ideas
18:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> im fine with that if they go to my bank account
18:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :troll:
18:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> @chillerdragon ddbucks
18:10 < ChillerDragon> wowo
18:10 < bridge_> <matodor> imagine the developers will be paid :poggers:
18:10 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can also put effects like heat wave or snow or rain, i love the effects from terraria
18:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet 2.0 with like a bunch of new weapons and most you need to buy :troll:
18:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> SAME
18:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> the heat wave thing in terraria too
18:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> terrarias like
18:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> my main sorta inspiration for the whole lighting thing
18:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://gfycat.com/uniquevaingonolek-terraria
18:11 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> maybe we should just open an indie game studio xd
18:11 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Rain#/media/File:Blizzard_(demo).gif
18:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://terraria.wiki.gg/images/8/84/Blizzard_%28demo%29.gif
18:12 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> what should it be named
18:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> yes
18:12 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Voxstaruki
18:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> as long as i dont do any graphics gogo
18:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i never did games cuz i have to do art
18:12 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah
18:12 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> welll :gigachad:
18:12 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 😏
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 😬
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the games made  in rust ofc
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and tooling
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and scripts
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> everything
18:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ~~as long as i dont have to touch the code~~
18:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its in the company constitution
18:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i probably have to and the  id actually know how to code in rust
18:14 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> perfect match
18:14 < bridge_> <avolicious> @chillerdragon what do I have to do, to get the IRC bridge?
18:14 < ChillerDragon> oooo
18:14 < ChillerDragon> hot
18:14 < ChillerDragon> matterbridge is nice
18:15 < bridge_> <avolicious> Shall I send you a webhook link for this?
18:15 < ChillerDragon> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/wiki/Section-IRC-%28basic%29
18:15 < ChillerDragon> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/wiki/Section-Discord-%28basic%29
18:15 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> @_voxeldoesart i'll soon come back to this xdd
18:15 < ChillerDragon> if you too lazy to host matterbridge and trust me with a webhook
18:15 < ChillerDragon> i can host some yea
18:15 < ChillerDragon> but also needs a bot iirc
18:15 < bridge_> <avolicious> urgh
18:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> to what? xd
18:16 < ChillerDragon> i cant make a discord bot
18:16 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> to his offer to make graphics xddd
18:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
18:16 < ChillerDragon> avo you would need to click through those https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/wiki/Discord-bot-setup
18:17 < ChillerDragon> :robot:
18:18 < bridge_> <avolicious> oke will look into it
18:18 < bridge_> <avolicious> Might need a few days, other stuff is also on my list
18:18 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> @jupeyy_keks so about ddnet 2.0 logo, do you have ideas on how you want it to look?
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @_voxeldoesart teecity
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124373375368839209/game.mp4
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> kek
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its meant to be like hotline miami
18:18 < bridge_> <avolicious> But if we could use the bridge, you dont annoy ddnet pepos anymore
18:18 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> xDDDDDDDDDDDD
18:18 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> OHHH
18:18 < ChillerDragon> thanks a lot
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i spent just 2 hours on this tbh
18:18 < bridge_> <ryozuki> mostly learning bevy
18:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> mhh hard to say.
18:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I can tell you that i like the blue rings in the current logo
18:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
18:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> But i dislike the orange and brown color a lot, and i dislike that the tees all stare with their black eyes, default skins as if they want to kill you
18:19 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> e.g. KoG logo is cooler (even if the logo itself looks not very clean)
18:19 < bridge_> <ryozuki> tees should also use other skins than default
18:20 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/splashes/342003344476471296/d5303422b343d6c7e550468bccdedd82.jpg?size=512
18:20 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> e.g. i dont really like the orange here too
18:20 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and the hook looks out of place
18:21 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> the king of gores text should probably use a different font
18:21 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://ddnet.org/ddnet2.png
18:21 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> but ddnet looks weird i dunno xD
18:21 < bridge_> <matodor> did it in unity in 2013 🥺
18:21 < bridge_> <matodor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124374178267672596/bandicam_2023-06-30_20-20-01-543.mp4
18:21 < bridge_> <matodor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124374182369701950/image.png
18:21 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> it wouldnt really convince me as newcomer
18:21 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i know im hater
18:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> urs is not top down
18:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> mine is top down
18:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> gottem
18:22 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> epic xd
18:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/hotline-miami-gif-26504194
18:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i want my game like this
18:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> in this style
18:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this gif sucks
18:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> XD
18:22 < bridge_> <matodor> bro
18:22 < bridge_> <matodor> just google 
18:22 < bridge_> <matodor> BaboViolent 2
18:23 < bridge_> <matodor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQZddY5Afc
18:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> nice
18:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but hotline miami is kinda my OG
18:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its a timeless classic
18:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u kill russian gang with lot of blod
18:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u lose on 1 shot
18:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and epic music
18:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adDW9OKbKFs
18:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @_voxeldoesart look this art
18:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :troll:
18:25 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ooh yea
18:26 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> btw was the "another week" literally spoken, or should i ping u at 13. Juli xd
18:31 < bridge_> <learath2> you can ping me on 14th of july and I'll be free from my shackles
18:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ok
18:47 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> level 10 crook
18:47 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :okaymaam:
18:50 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> @fokkonaut cough cough
18:57 < bridge_> <coke1465> Is it possible to make an anti-spam server command that prevents spamming of server messages? Example : #💤👶powerless
18:57 < bridge_> <coke1465> Is it possible to make an anti-spam server command that prevents spamming of server messages of specific maps? Example : #💤👶powerless
18:58 < bridge_> <coke1465> It's possible with tune zones, but very spammy in entities
19:01 < bridge_> <reitw> did any of u @ryozuki experiment with https://surrealdb.com/ ?
19:01 < bridge_> <reitw> did any of u @ryozuki experimented* with https://surrealdb.com/ ?
21:40 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> redicilous that i have to fight for a arch bug to be fixed, even tho i dont use it
21:40 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> just bcs the maintainer is lazy af
21:40 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> thats the reason ppl dont report bugs anymore at some point xd