00:01 < bridge_> <deen> Here is my proposal, any client dev want to implement the client part for DDNet + KoG as we have them now? Then I'll implement the serverside part: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5654#issuecomment-1612162585
00:03 < bridge_> <totar> what is your opinion on #5665 ?
00:03 < chillerbot2> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5
00:03 < bridge_> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5665
00:03 < bridge_> <totar> wtf is this?
00:07 < bridge_> <gerdoe> @chillerdragon
00:42 < bridge_> <deen> Oh, I didn'T see that, looks cool
00:42 < bridge_> <deen> but still prefer my proposal 😄
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01:37 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123759053148016741/1685113779041-2.jpg
01:41 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> Ok.
01:42 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TOTAL TROON DEATH
01:42 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@cyberfighter)
01:42 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> Ok.
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01:42 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123760384927604766/320px-35136_-_SoyBooru.png
01:42 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> Ok.
01:42 < bridge_> <jakingoff> coal
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01:43 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123760535264034846/1685485964999.png
01:43 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> @cyberfighter did you see my boomerang idea
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01:43 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123760633884717117/1685644488206.jpg
01:43 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> nope
01:43 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> idk if i did actually
01:43 < bridge_> <jakingoff> did you see my boomer-ACK
01:43 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@_voxeldoesart)
01:43 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> here
01:44 < bridge_> <jakingoff> iwannakillanniger.mp4
01:44 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123760806035730545/iwannakillanniger.mp4
01:44 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> would it go clockwise or counterclockwise
01:44 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> or just straight
01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> cute.webm
01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@cyberfighter)
01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123761000760487966/cute.webm
01:45 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> itd probably depend on velocity
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01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123761111796297750/1683176200111.jpg
01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> coal coal
01:45 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@_voxeldoesart)
01:46 < bridge_> <jakingoff> xiping.mp4
01:46 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123761351710486610/xiping.mp4
01:52 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> ok put it as an issue now
01:58 < bridge_> <totar> @Moderator can you delete some messages
01:58 < bridge_> <-StormAx> which one? @totar
01:58 < bridge_> <-StormAx> ah wtf
02:01 < bridge_> <totar> how should I ping a mod if the bot deletes all mod pings outside of #reports, I don't really see the point of that
02:02 < bridge_> <jakingoff> itsglowign.jpg
02:02 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@totar)
02:02 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123765474677755955/itsglowign.jpg
02:02 < bridge_> <jakingoff> @totar\: GLOWNIGGER
04:12 < bridge_> <imnotgonnadanceforyou> I guess you should to ping '@Discord Mod'
04:12 < bridge_> <imnotgonnadanceforyou> Oops
04:12 < bridge_> <totar> I think that only includes heinrich
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04:12 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@imnotgonnadanceforyou)
04:12 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123798206661263402/iwannakillanniger.mp4
04:13 < bridge_> <imnotgonnadanceforyou> Murpi also
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04:14 < bridge_> <imnotgonnadanceforyou> @stormaxd yo brother, can u disable this freakin webhook?
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04:14 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123798693703860244/1684347819072.png
04:14 < bridge_> <jakingoff> NIGGER
04:14 < bridge_> <jakingoff> NIGGER TROON
04:16 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Well i cant
04:17 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Is theres a way to disable it? @heinrich5991
04:17 < bridge_> <jakingoff> RAPE A NIGGER
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04:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> thanks sp
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04:23 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123800935043440731/1685736376363.png
04:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> one for you
04:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> https://tenor.com/view/wednesday-garfield-cool-gif-22761520
04:24 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TROON
04:25 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TROON
04:25 < bridge_> <jakingoff> (@stormaxd)
04:26 < bridge_> <Ewan> sry chiller i think u will have to use the furrycord if u want to talk in here for a min xd
04:26 < bridge_> <jakingoff> SOY
04:26 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TROON
04:26 < bridge_> <jakingoff> NIGGER
04:26 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Furrycord XD
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04:30 < bridge_> <Ewan> u shut off the bridge right 😃
04:30 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TROON
04:30 < bridge_> <jakingoff> MEDS
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04:31 < bridge_> <jakingoff> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123802955473231963/1685113779041-0.png
04:32 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Btw how to use this bridge?@mpft
04:32 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Just curious
04:32 < bridge_> <jakingoff> MEDS TROON
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04:33 < bridge_> <syrinok> Mental illness
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04:35 < StA> Sadly cant mod quakenet :widepeeposad:  
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04:55 < bridge_> <jakingoff> TOTAL NIGGER DEATH
04:56 < bridge_> <jakingoff> NIGGER TROON
05:15 < bridge_> <Ewan> log into the ddnet channel on quakenet
05:16 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Already
05:16 < bridge_> <-StormAx> Get it;p
05:16 < bridge_> <Ewan> unfortunately not
05:16 < bridge_> <Ewan> webhook disabled yet?
05:17 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> damn, this would have been a funny troll for a pulsar map
08:04 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Yea the bridge getting renamed from bridge to bridge\_ broke all my tools xd
08:04 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> (@totar)
08:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> note: glibc is special and cant use mold!
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for ld.mold... ld.mold
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking version of ld.mold... v. ?.??, bad
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for gnumake... no
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for gmake... gmake
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking version of gmake... 4.4.1, ok
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for gnumsgfmt... no
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for gmsgfmt... gmsgfmt
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking version of gmsgfmt... 0.21.1, ok
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking for makeinfo... /dev/null
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> checking version of /dev/null... v. ?.??, bad
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
08:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wtf does it mean checking version of dev null xdd
08:10 < bridge_> <Ewan> lmfao
08:10 < bridge_> <Ewan> i use mold with mingw and it works fine
08:10 < bridge_> <Ewan> libc is obv pretty different
08:10 < bridge_> <Ewan> but still libgcc/glibc based
08:11 < bridge_> <Ewan> i also kinda doubt that because the majority of linuxes use glibc and mold was made on/for that kind of environment
08:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://bugs.gentoo.org/860900
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i mean compiling glibc itself
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its kind of special cuz t hey use ancient build system probs xd
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so far on gentoo only 2 packages fail according to the wiki so im good
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> Known packages to fail
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     sys-app/sandbox (bug #830748)
08:13 < chillerbot2> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8
08:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     sys-libs/glibc (bug #860900)
08:13 < chillerbot2> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8
08:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> chiller remove ur bot omg
08:15 < bridge_> <Ewan> oic
08:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @mpft did u leanr rust yet
08:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u gotta catch up to the future
08:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> aaa
08:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> growing old in tech is bad
08:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and ur young
08:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> no i had interview for cpp 2 hrs ago
08:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> agenda is booked
08:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
08:23 < bridge_> <Ewan> i will rust soon
08:27 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Im on da phone fix bridge name or wait for me to turn on pc
08:32 < bridge_> <ryozuki> why u dont have  full fledged terminal on phone
08:33 < bridge_> <ryozuki> fake chiller
08:33 < ChillerDragon> because phones suck
08:37 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> no shell no life
08:37 < ChillerDragon> i used it back in school
08:37 < ChillerDragon> still got ptsd from it
08:40 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> !ping
08:40 < chillerbot> pong
08:40 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> #420
08:40 < ChillerDragon> #69
08:40 < chillerbot> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6
08:40 < ChillerDragon> ez
08:41 < ChillerDragon> wait 9 missing
08:41 < ChillerDragon> omagawd xd
08:43 < ChillerDragon> #69
08:43 < chillerbot> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/#69
08:43 < ChillerDragon> thats also bad xd
09:20 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> high quality bot 😂
09:33 < bridge_> <Ewan> ineed a focus for rust i think
09:33 < bridge_> <Ewan> nothing i do needs or rly even allows rust
09:33 < bridge_> <Ewan> even when i make simple cli tools they’re usually as a frontend for a library or smth
09:33 < bridge_> <Ewan> in c
09:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> just take any c, go or whatever library and make it blazingly fast and safe
09:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> then post the lib in rust sub reddit. and get fame
09:35 < bridge_> <Ewan> sounds like wasted time
09:36 < bridge_> <Ewan> tool already exists
09:36 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> you dont understand how rust community works 😂 
09:36 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ewan you dont understand...
09:36 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> if its not in rust.... its not real code....
09:36 < bridge_> <Ewan> I don’t want to get in the ‘community’ i just want to get fluent in the language
09:36 < bridge_> <Ewan> fuck the community
09:36 < bridge_> <Ewan> crazy pol
09:36 < bridge_> <Ewan> *ppl
09:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> wow @_voxeldoesart was the underscore in your name actually needed?
09:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> is there a second voxeldoesart?
09:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yes
09:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> unlucky
09:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> blame discord
09:37 < bridge_> <Ewan> i wish i could get ewan
09:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> add him as friend and destroy him
09:37 < bridge_> <Ewan> i could have on my original account
09:37 < bridge_> <Ewan> but banned
09:37 < bridge_> <Ewan> zzz
09:37 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i did
09:38 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> and they're cool !
09:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> anyways rust
09:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i have no reason to learn it
09:39 < bridge_> <Ewan> you’re also not looking for a low level code job
09:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yeah
09:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i had to learn cpp to make dumb updates to this game
09:39 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> theres nothing fun in rust
09:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> have u even used it for at least 1 week yet? XD
09:40 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> or are u simply mad at ryozuki
09:41 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> no i tried it
09:41 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> well "tried" because coding hello world programs are zzzzzzzzzzz
09:41 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> snrrrk mimimimi
09:43 < bridge_> <gerdoe> try to play with generics
09:44 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wtf is a generic
09:44 < bridge_> <gerdoe> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch10-00-generics.html
09:44 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> hello world, wow... i'd say hello word in rust is actually similar to any language
09:45 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> world
09:45 < bridge_> <gerdoe> jupjopjap
09:45 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> println! is a macro, thats the only difference
09:45 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> crazy
09:45 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @gerdoe hi, wazzup
09:45 < bridge_> <gerdoe> im doin good
09:46 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> great
09:46 < bridge_> <gerdoe> playing around with shared libs in rust
09:46 < bridge_> <gerdoe> and you?
09:47 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there 😂 
09:47 < bridge_> <gerdoe> https://tenor.com/view/jerma-reaction-wtf-jerma985-gif-26035789
09:47 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i know how to do that in javascript :troll:
09:47 < bridge_> <gerdoe> good for u
09:48 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @gerdoe why do u want shared lib?
09:49 < bridge_> <gerdoe> plugin system for libtw2 server implementation
09:49 < bridge_> <gerdoe> just handling client events
09:49 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> why dont u use wasmer
09:49 < bridge_> <gerdoe> like connect packet receiving disconnect and so on
09:50 < bridge_> <gerdoe> thought to pick rhai but want to try this pathway xd
09:50 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> whats libtw2 gonna do
09:50 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i mean its fine, and fastest.. just not safe :D
09:50 < bridge_> <gerdoe> yeah no sandboxing
09:51 < bridge_> <gerdoe> if i meant to make kind of sandbox i would pick rhai from the start
09:51 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart its basically teeworlds stuff written in rust by heinrich
09:51 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wow
09:51 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> network code, some game stuff
09:51 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart tbf it exists since years
09:51 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> its not new
09:52 < bridge_> <gerdoe> also can't update arrayvec crate
09:52 < bridge_> <gerdoe> cuz no buffer crate that supports new arrayvec
09:52 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> tinyvec also has a array like vec
09:52 < bridge_> <gerdoe> actually there's no need to but looking at <[u8; 1024]> is kinda meh
09:52 < ChillerDragon> jopsti wat u work
09:53 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i work time waste
09:53 < bridge_> <gerdoe> yeah but afair buffer crate that heinrich used has nothing to do with any crate but arrayvec
09:53 < ChillerDragon> i can see
09:53 < bridge_> <gerdoe> lemme check tho
09:53 < bridge_> <Ewan> u know cpp but don’t know generics? do u know it?
09:53 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @gerdoe you could kindly ask heinrich if u could replace it. What does the buffer crate even do? :D
09:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> this makes no sense, anything u do in c++ is better  in rust
09:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> clap in rust and u have a super powered cli frontend, it even makes man pages and autocompletion for u
09:54 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> didnt know it was called that
09:54 < bridge_> <gerdoe> buffer crate offers buffer interface without need to think about underlying things
09:54 < bridge_> <gerdoe> like arrayvec
09:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ????????
09:54 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> well templates in cpp are bit different anyway
09:55 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> they are more like macros, but also not quite
09:55 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> incoming heinrich ping!!!!!!!!!!!
09:55 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> its not really comparable
09:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @_voxeldoesart the rust community is probs one of the best to get into a programming language, i never seen someone not being supportive of another learning rust
09:55 < bridge_> <ryozuki> no, passionate
09:55 < bridge_> <gerdoe> still no "no macros" generic key-value structs in cpp :troll:
09:55 < bridge_> <gerdoe> waiting for c++23
09:55 < bridge_> <gerdoe> std::reflect goes brr
09:56 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688025348.png
09:56 < ChillerDragon> my client doesnt feel so good
09:56 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i swear the rust community needs to be studied under a microscope. half of their brain consists of buzzwords to describe milquetoast coding peojects
09:56 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wtf chiller
09:56 < bridge_> <gerdoe> not that but well documented language does it
09:56 < ChillerDragon> idk wat happend there
09:56 < bridge_> <gerdoe> try out
09:56 < bridge_> <ryozuki> tinyvec is a safe impl of smallvec, but it requires u to impl Default
09:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> no, ur just ignorant
09:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and this blind hate u have is sad
09:57 < bridge_> <gerdoe> https://crates.io/crates/buffer + https://crates.io/crates/arrayvec
09:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i tried rust
09:58 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> like- three times. i have nothing to make that will incluence me that i dont already have
09:58 < bridge_> <gerdoe> try cpp then
09:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> voxel
09:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u dont know much about programming
09:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its normal to not understand what makes it good
09:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> you also dont know much c or c++
09:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its bad to judge something with lack of xp
09:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i think u just have some weird view of rust cuz i meme a lot about it
09:59 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart i dont want to convince you, but you should see rust from 2 perspectives: You have idiomatic rust.. its as easy as most languages: you spam Arc, Rc everywhere, and dont need to do any memory management, u use copy and clone everywhere, and have useless copies everywhere, like javascript
10:00 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> its not just yoy
10:00 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> or u do everything carefully and have blazingly fast code XDD
10:00 < bridge_> <gerdoe> i think you can make impls for these traits for *brand new* arrayvec but i want to do funny stuff in tw not in rust xd
10:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> idiomatic rust doesnt spam rc arc tho
10:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> just use it where needed
10:00 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> its not just you*
10:00 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i meant, u can use it, basically like a managed language
10:00 < bridge_> <gerdoe> never used rc :troll:
10:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> dont judge a tool by its community anyway, judge it by its potential and opportunities, fixes, improvements, etc
10:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but the community is great
10:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> lot of highly skilled devs
10:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> that want to do things correctly
10:01 < bridge_> <gerdoe> if you belive that community=language try to do anything with haskell :troll:
10:01 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ryoz i should admit that i pretty much base a lot of things off of the community
10:02 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> oh no
10:02 < bridge_> <Ewan> c calls?
10:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u can do c calls?
10:02 < bridge_> <Ewan> 😃
10:02 < bridge_> <Ewan> safely?
10:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart if u want to like rust, try to use derive macros. they implement traits and remove lot of complexity. this is defs not as ez in cpp
10:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @mpft this proves u dont know rust
10:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> by saying that
10:02 < bridge_> <Ewan> Yea, I don’t know rust
10:02 < bridge_> <Ewan> I never claimed to
10:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so this discussion is pointless
10:02 < bridge_> <gerdoe> less boilerplate in code is god's gift
10:03 < bridge_> <Ewan> ❓
10:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i meant saying this
10:03 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/ffi.html
10:04 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> god i am so tired
10:05 < bridge_> <Ewan> i am tired of bickering over pointless stuff
10:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> yeah im tired and sad of ignorance
10:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> life is constant tiredness
10:05 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and now i have to go to work
10:05 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> its. its literally 4 am for me
10:06 < bridge_> <Ewan> i like to think I’m not ignorant but honestly i have other focuses and my desire to learn rust can not be fulfilled because however many hours of the day it takes are already occupied
10:06 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ok ok chill xdd. Rust isnt perfect, and imo it is missing lot of QOL. But it's defs interesting. Even if you will dislike the language, it's defs worth to learn it for a few weeks
10:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> how can u stay so late
10:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and on middle of week
10:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ok tha makes more sense
10:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> that*
10:06 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> with the power of depression
10:06 < bridge_> <ryozuki> eh
10:06 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> or smth
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i think depression is not that related to not sleeping, in fact sleeping is a nice way to skip time and forget for brief moments
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> altho when i go to sleep i think about life
10:07 < bridge_> <Ewan> most therapists and psychiatrists would say otherwise
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i see
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> im no expert
10:07 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> id rather be awake at night than in the morning
10:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Rust made me a worse CPP dev :lol:
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> summer heat makes me wanna stay up at night too
10:07 < bridge_> <ryozuki> its insane
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wat kek
10:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> In rust u can cast types implicitly. And in ddnet code we have no check for it
10:08 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> make one
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> u have to cast types implicitly*
10:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> So I thought if it compiles it works xd
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> explicitly
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> *
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wrong word lol
10:08 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> oh yeah
10:08 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> wanted to say cant
10:08 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ah
10:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> the strict provenance  nightly feature is nice i think
10:09 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> so its not rust fault, but our cpp compile flags :D
10:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> fix the flags
10:09 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> but i defs didnt think about it :D
10:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.pointer.html#method.with_addr
10:09 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123888019338952705/image.png
10:10 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart do you like javascript?
10:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> yes but only because its directly tied to adobe animate's macro thing
10:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> idk i like abusing the program to make overly complex stuff
10:11 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i made a 3d cube in it with xyz rotations
10:11 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i see, i'd say its easier to write js like code with rust than cpp :D u have a powerful async runtime, and the standard makes it ez to manage lifetimes.. cargo is bascically like npm. so ez to add libs
10:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> thats a bit far fetched xd
10:12 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> psst
10:12 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> if   A N Y T H I N G   i would try and make something ddnet related
10:12 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> like   an automapper thing
10:12 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> good opinion
10:12 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> one that wont be abandoned
10:12 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ddnet first
10:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> america second
10:13 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> germany third
10:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i wanted to make a parser and editor of config files but idk if its useful
10:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> like have you heard of r++
10:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> with a LR(1) parser
10:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> it uses code to make rly complex automappers
10:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> a e s t h e t i c
10:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i w i l l w r i t e l i k e t h i s f r o m n o w o n
10:14 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> epic
10:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it says owo there
10:14 < bridge_> <gerdoe> owo
10:14 < ChillerDragon> OwO
10:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> weebs
10:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> (im not)
10:14 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> uwu
10:14 < bridge_> <gerdoe> fur
10:14 < ChillerDragon> ryowo
10:15 < bridge_> <gerdoe> ryuwuki
10:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> make anime pfp with drawing  skills
10:15 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i have a quirky way of typing
10:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
10:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @_voxeldoesart make ddnet logo 
10:15 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet logo isnt broken
10:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> make next gen logo, for me
10:16 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> hmfgh
10:16 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> ddnet 2.0 logo
10:16 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> remind me
10:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> yes
10:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> wiki logo is rly nice
10:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :wiki:
10:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> our moto: "The game YOU deserve"
10:17 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> true
10:17 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> so like
10:17 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> if we ever start 2.0 where would we start
10:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> (made in rust (soon tm))
10:17 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> wiki logo is the best we have yet
10:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> it will never start xd
10:17 < bridge_> <ryozuki> pipe dreams
10:17 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> but like
10:17 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> if we did whatd be the first step?
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> u ask that ryozuki? XD
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> drop cpp
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> u ask me?
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> python
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> eliminate python
10:18 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xd
10:19 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> i guess i can   provide like   concept art and then beg on my hands and knees for ravie to make it look better
10:19 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> is ravie your mentor?
10:19 < bridge_> <gerdoe> jupjopsti waitin for your rusty tw client build to test with libtw2 xd
10:19 < bridge_> <ryozuki> remove all back compat monkey patches, rethink the map format with future proof in mind, rethink the protocol with future proof and modding in mind, use rust, use quic (?), adopt 0.7 style skins (but keep 0.6 body proportions), make max players dynamic and not fixed, opt in accounts with achievements, etc, rethink the database structure using partitioned tables, etc
10:19 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i thought u the compition
10:19 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> to him
10:19 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @ryozuki omg good opinion
10:20 < bridge_> <gerdoe> concepts first
10:20 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> id be fine with rust code if it was like for the server stuff
10:20 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and add a suggestion on the left lower corner to switch to linux for better fps
10:20 < ChillerDragon> down for me?
10:20 < ChillerDragon> https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc
10:20 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @gerdoe so or so, my client will not be compatible with libtw2
10:21 < bridge_> <gerdoe> sure i mean i want to test libtw2 server with rustw
10:21 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i completely wrote most stuff from scratch
10:21 < bridge_> <gerdoe> twrust
10:21 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> btw, some people want even stricter accounts for ddnet
10:21 < bridge_> <ryozuki> rust code fits both client and server, the safer concurrency it has makes some stuff easier
10:21 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> than the one kog announced
10:21 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> or better: have the ddnet be the os and have it use 100% of the resources
10:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> in rust we trust
10:22 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> t
10:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @heinrich5991 pls dont kill teeworlds for me xd, i just want to play
10:22 < bridge_> <ryozuki> t
10:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> no accounts
10:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> no nothing
10:22 < bridge_> <gerdoe> yeah literally my bio quote xd
10:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> just start, have fun
10:23 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I want to have seamless accounts
10:23 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> i.e. just start
10:23 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> have fun
10:23 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> but other people want to have stuff like verified email or steam account
10:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> cant that part be opt in
10:23 < bridge_> <ryozuki> afterwards
10:24 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I'd be in favor of that
10:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> client makes a account if u dont have in the bg, you can later request to change the username to something u identify with more if u want
10:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> and link to social accounts (steam, discord)
10:24 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yea, that'd be my vision
10:24 < bridge_> <gerdoe> hey heinrich can you check this stuff in free time :>
10:24 < bridge_> <gerdoe> https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/pull/79
10:24 < bridge_> <ryozuki> do u have a windows server?
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I had a brief look at it already and I didn't understand why it's correct
10:25 < bridge_> <gerdoe> im testing mostly on my pc
10:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> on one of my first internships i had a company who used windows server 2008
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it seems like it should change nothing
10:25 < bridge_> <gerdoe> but it changes tho
10:25 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes
10:26 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> and that's why I'm reluctant to merge ^^
10:26 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> because I don't understand it yet
10:26 < bridge_> <gerdoe> windows for some reason (maybe small buffer or another algo to pass with packets) doesn't get in time all packets to write
10:26 < bridge_> <gerdoe> too many of them so windows blocks write
10:26 < bridge_> <gerdoe> to wait other packets to go
10:26 < bridge_> <gerdoe> idk why tho
10:27 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> yes, makes sense
10:27 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> but the wait you added waits for incoming or outgoing packets
10:27 < bridge_> <gerdoe> you can try to spam packets with libtw2-server on windows with this patch and without
10:27 < bridge_> <gerdoe> also on linux
10:28 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> i.e. it might return when there are new packets that arrived
10:28 < bridge_> <gerdoe> there was no problem on linux btw
10:28 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> but not when you could send new ones
10:30 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I guess it works because there are usually no packets arriving when it waits for the socket to become ready for writing
10:30 < bridge_> <gerdoe> needs to be tested then
10:30 < bridge_> <gerdoe> i can't grant any behaviour
10:31 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> All fine with me. But effectively I cannot play gores starting tomorrow anymore. Some newcomers servers will have no accounts. I know ur opinion is, that gores should stay with kog. But i hope u have the empathy that it's basically as if i would add forced accounts to ddnet tomorrow, go closed source and handle all account stuff over the insecure protocol ddnet has right now
10:31 < bridge_> <gerdoe> also what do you think about non-sandboxed plugin system for current server implementation?
10:34 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> why is verified email or steam for ddnet fine for you, but not when kog does it?
10:34 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> I really don't lke verified email/steam requirement for ddnet
10:35 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> hmm. I don't like the fact that you have to register either for ddnet nor for kog
10:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I meant optional accounts are fine
10:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Or hidden
10:36 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> It was a reply to your monolog
10:37 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> ah
10:52 < bridge_> <cauldron1> Cant we have a blockchain for ranks :troll: just random non-serious thought.
10:54 < ChillerDragon> blockchain for ranks would be pog ngl
10:54 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> I KNEW IT XDDD
10:54 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i just waited for it
10:54 < ChillerDragon> undeletable cheated ranks axaxax
10:54 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> lmao
10:54 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> chillerdragon pls read #off-topic
10:54 < ChillerDragon> ok sec
10:55 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 pls bridge offtopic
10:55 < ChillerDragon> or u mean webchat?
10:55 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> weebchat
10:55 < ChillerDragon> aa
10:56 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> 😂 
10:56 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> lgtm
10:56 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> now it works btw chiller
10:56 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> watfak u did
10:56 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> let me find
10:56 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> there was so much talk here
10:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> chiller i updated teecity
10:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> try it
10:57 < ChillerDragon> pog
10:57 < ChillerDragon> multiplayer?
10:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> release build
10:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> camera moves with player xd
10:57 < ChillerDragon> insane
10:57 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye
10:57 < ChillerDragon> tech
10:58 < ChillerDragon> when put in appstore?
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rust
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> pub fn player_camera(
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     mut query_player: Query<(&mut AimTarget, &Transform), (With<Player>, Without<MainCamera>)>,
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     mut query_camera: Query<&mut Transform, With<MainCamera>>,
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ) {
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     let mut camera_transform = query_camera.single_mut();
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     let (mut aim_target, player_transform) = query_player.single_mut();
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     let old = camera_transform.translation;
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     camera_transform.translation = Vec3::new(
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         player_transform.translation.x,
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         player_transform.translation.y,
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         camera_transform.translation.z,
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     );
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     // Keep the aim same when camera is moving
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     let diff = camera_transform.translation - old;
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     if diff.length() > 0.0 {
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         if let Some(t) = aim_target.0.as_mut() {
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>             *t += diff.xy();
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         }
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki>     }
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> }
10:58 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
10:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> idk if best way
10:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but works
10:59 < ChillerDragon> i only run apps from appstore these days
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```rust
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_startup_system(general_setup)
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_startup_system(player::add_player)
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_systems((player::player_input, player::player_mouse).before(physics::move_system))
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_system(physics::move_system)
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_system(misc::aim_target_system.after(physics::move_system))
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki>         .add_system(player::player_camera.after(misc::aim_target_system))
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ```
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> systems are poggers
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so ez to define order
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> ```ruby
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>   def center_around_tee(tee)
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>     wc = WINDOW_WIDTH / 2
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>     hc = WINDOW_HEIGHT / 2
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>     x = -tee.x + wc
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>     y = -tee.y + hc
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>     Entitiy.new(x:, y:)
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon>   end
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> ```
11:00 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> ez center
11:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
11:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1123882299084259328
11:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> There ChillerDragon
11:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> <Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there 😂
11:01 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> imagine sending discord link
11:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> I quoted
11:01 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon>    weechat             │11:01:19       bridge_ | <Jupstar ✪> <Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there 😂                                                                  │@heinrich5991
11:01 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> ops i pingered heinrich
11:01 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there 😂 
11:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> lel
11:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> indeed broken
11:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> when i type same sentence again
11:02 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688029335.png
11:02 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> discord issue
11:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xd
11:02 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ok i go work now, it reminded me XD, bye
11:02 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> wot
11:02 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> jopsti workin?
11:03 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> slavery
11:03 <@heinrich5991> 😂
11:04 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> heinrich having fun
11:04 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> seems like a issue not of discord and not of the bridge
11:04 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> seems like an issue not of discord and not of the bridge
11:04 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> yes its a jupsti issue
11:04 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> 😂 
11:04 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> works for me
11:08 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> It's also only in that sentence
11:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Maybe u cut the utf8 weirdly
11:10 < ChillerDragon> I?
11:10 < ChillerDragon> it arrived fine on irc
11:10 < ChillerDragon> also omg debian12 broke my touchpad in ddnet
11:10 < ChillerDragon> I use debian BTW
11:11 < ChillerDragon> HOLY SHIT FUCK YEAH I FINALLY FIXED 0.7 MAP DOWNLOAD
11:12 < ChillerDragon> :party:
11:12 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> <:poggers2:1008007455936094328> 
11:12 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> <:poggers2:1008007455936094328> 
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> tf
11:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123903914052436059/Screenshot_2023-06-29-11-12-09-316_com.google.android.gm-edit.jpg
11:14 < bridge_> <heinrich5991> it says 'rust' 😉
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> so much money its scary
11:14 < ChillerDragon> take it
11:14 < bridge_> <ryozuki> he also has a crab emote kek
11:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> there is a reason ppl say "no blockchain jobs"
11:15 < ChillerDragon> why
11:15 < ChillerDragon> wat the reason
11:15 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> trollodragores
11:15 < bridge_> <ryozuki> what if u yield to devil grab that salary money and retire in 2 years
11:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> why am i here again wtf
11:16 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> social media kicks
11:16 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> and then you use blockchain knowledge to replace fakin mariadb with blockchain for ddnet
11:16 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> axaxax jopsti addicted to weebchat
11:16 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> i feel u
11:16 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i tried to replace with postgres but syntax is too different and the impl is built around specific string formatting
11:17 < ws-client1> <ChillerDragon> ima add some health banner that pops up every 30min to remind you to do breaks from the internet
11:17 < ChillerDragon> @robyt3 roooobi when 0.7 maps i finally am ready to download some pog custom vanilla ctf maps
11:18 < ChillerDragon> jopsti cant wait for 0.7 ddnet client too
11:19 < bridge_> <ryozuki> 0.7 doesnt have vulkan right
11:21 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ChillerDragon: i can certainly imagine 0.7 protocol is better than 0.6. if we drop all old client support and go to 0.7 its not worse than now. but at that point a full upgrade would be more logical
11:21 < ChillerDragon> ye we slowly phase out 0.6
11:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> just give me 20 more years
11:22 < ChillerDragon> ddnet 0.7 truly stable already 
11:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> then i finished best client ever
11:22 < ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688030524.png
11:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> dont waste ur time on it
11:22 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> your only supporter is heinrich xD
11:23 < ChillerDragon> he big wig
11:23 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> rest of devs wants to drop backward compability
11:23 < ChillerDragon> ez 2v10
11:23 < ChillerDragon> in fact
11:23 < ChillerDragon> i also want to drop backward comp
11:23 < ChillerDragon> to 0.6
11:23 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xd
11:23 < ChillerDragon> no go back to work
11:23 < ChillerDragon> or i tell ur employer
11:24 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> yeah pls tell him xd
11:24 < ChillerDragon> or do like me
11:24 < ChillerDragon> quit job
11:24 < ChillerDragon> to focus on 0.7
11:24 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> good idea
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i worked hard last week, when i was banned from social media
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> now i can chill
11:25 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> xd
11:25 < bridge_> <ryozuki> chiller did u drop ur java job
11:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp/blob/main/vulkan/vulkan.cppm
11:37 < bridge_> <ryozuki> @jupeyy_keks vulkan hpp c++20 module
11:38 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> epic, but useless, who uses cpp :smirk:
11:39 < bridge_> <ryozuki> true
11:40 < ChillerDragon> wot jopsti banned
11:40 < ChillerDragon> my java job? :D
11:41 < ChillerDragon> i ever disclose having a java job
11:41 < ChillerDragon> yea no i did not quit my job :D 
11:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> chiller yeah, irc logs the truth luckely
11:46 < ChillerDragon> yikes
11:47 < ChillerDragon> i regret grepping the logs
11:47 < ChillerDragon> teeworlds/2021-12-14.log:4:21:17 < bridge> [teeworlds] <chillerdragon> Sometimes I wish teeworlds wasn’t written in Java
11:47 < ChillerDragon> watafak i wrote there
11:48 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Xd
11:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xdd
11:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> chiller u disclosed to me
11:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> lots of years ago
11:53 < bridge_> <ryozuki> here i think
11:54 < bridge_> <ryozuki> anyway i just know ur a javaer
11:55 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> chillerdragon is professional programmer? epic
11:55 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i always thought he manages networks or smth like that
12:02 < ChillerDragon> im not a professional anything xd
12:07 < bridge_> <cauldron1> You could mark them maybe. As cheated… and ignore them.
12:07 < bridge_> <cauldron1> Answering this
12:36 < bridge_> <robyt3> The PR is mostly waiting for a review from heinrich
13:07 < ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991
13:08 < ChillerDragon> i think heinrich waits for u
13:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-pointing-meme-double-identity-youre-fake-phony-gif-25729080
13:12 < bridge_> <matodor> 🥺  pls allow 0.7 to die
13:12 < bridge_> <matodor> pls allow 0.7 to die 🥺
13:39 < bridge_> <learath2> Yes, I want a blood sample for registration
13:44 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> yo thx
13:45 < bridge_> <learath2> Or verified home address so I can ship you a grenade when you get banned
14:00 < bridge_> <matodor> rust community member pov:
14:00 < bridge_> <matodor> 
14:00 < bridge_> <matodor> rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust
14:00 < bridge_> <matodor> 🤔
14:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> literally not
14:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> thats just a meme
14:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> but let people do what they want in their time
14:05 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> like rewriting it in rust
14:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Let's be honest, it's no meme, and that's probably also good 😂
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> xd
14:12 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
14:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> i mean look at ripgrep
14:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> they end up better
14:13 < bridge_> <ryozuki> :justatest:
14:55 < bridge_> <avolicious> That escalated quickly xD
15:07 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Proprilicious joined the convo
15:07 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Yo @avolicious I was told some big bannings happend on kog. I’m interested on how you proof bot usage
15:09 < bridge_> <chillerdragon> Also did shiro really get life banned for server crashing?
15:25 < ChillerDragon> @avolicious also when bridge your discord to irc
15:36 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> lul
16:24 < bridge_> <teero777> hey where is that little thing rendered?
16:24 < bridge_> <teero777> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1123982207220973699/image.png
16:24 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i guess hud.cpp
16:26 < bridge_> <teero777> ye its pretty annoying. this thing only gets shown when the scoreboard is active anyways but it gets removed if cl_show_hud is 0.
16:27 < bridge_> <teero777> cant seem to find it neither in hud.cpp nor in scoreboard.cpp
16:31 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> id CHud::RenderLocalTime(float x)
16:31 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> isnt that it?
16:33 < bridge_> <totar> lol I also spent forever trying to find where this thing is. It is RenderLocalTIme
16:33 < hamid> hi
16:34 < bridge_> <teero777> ah lol yes it is
16:34 < bridge_> <teero777> was searching for %d:%d but it doesnt exist
16:34 < bridge_> <teero777> but apparently its %H:%M xD
16:34 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> hours minutes
16:34 < bridge_> <teero777> weird time string magic
16:34 < hamid> Can anyone help me?
16:35 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> hamid not before u said what your problem is
16:35 < bridge_> <teero777> just ask your question. no one is gonna help you before we know your problem xD
16:36 < hamid> I wanted to send Gmail to ddnet
16:36 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> ? xD
16:37 < hamid> Does ddnet have gmail?
16:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> no
16:37 < bridge_> <totar> why do you want to send an email?
16:37 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> just say what u want
16:38 < hamid> I want to bring some problems to the ears of ddnet developers
16:38 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> bro, just say it
16:38 < bridge_> <totar> the ddnet developers read this chat
16:41 < hamid> We are Iranian players who love ddnet, but our client used to connect to your servers and we could play quite easily, but now our servers are filtered and we can't play. Can you help us??
16:42 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @heinrich5991 ^
16:42 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> @hamid, when heinrich reads this he will ping you, but he is offline rn
16:43 < bridge_> <murpi> There was some client that doesn't allow connecting to DDNet at all
16:43 < bridge_> <murpi> not sure if thats the persian client though
16:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i think he means they are filtered in the master server list
16:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> i guess
16:43 < hamid> I found it very hard to rent, do you know when اثwill come?
16:43 < hamid> I found it very hard to rent, do you know when hewill come?
16:43 < ws-client1> <Jupstar> no, he pops up randomly
16:44 < hamid> Our server name is ddnet persian
16:46 < hamid> Can they make a server for us, just one server? We really need help
16:46 < bridge_> <murpi> infranet moment
16:54  * hamid__ slaps hamid around a bit with a large fishbot
17:57 < bridge_> <nouaa> :sendhelp:
18:45 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> im awake
19:15 < bridge_> <cyberFighter> hello there
19:49 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> is github down
19:57 < bridge_> <chairn> works fine for me
20:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> very slow for me
20:01 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124036950693777548/image.png
20:05 < ChillerDragon> whole ms has barley any uptime these days
20:05 < ChillerDragon> took me 20mins to install vscode this morning
20:06 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> github is indeed down pretty often
20:07 < bridge_> <stnwtr> https://www.githubstatus.com/
20:07 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> weird that a plattform that basically all devs in the world use, is so unstable 😂
20:07 < bridge_> <stnwtr> at least stackoverflow is up&running
20:09 < bridge_> <deen> I don't think most devs use public github. There are many companies which won't use external dependencies, or host their own git/gitlab/github servers internally
20:09 < bridge_> <deen> Most devs also don't develop publicly visible stuff I guess, thus the skewed perception
20:09 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> i dunno, i doubt there is a single company that doesnt use open source projects
20:10 < bridge_> <deen> Using them in the sense of downloading a tarball once, building it in their own local build system and then hosting the binaries in their own binary distribution system
20:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah using in any way
20:10 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> and be it just looking at issues
20:13 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> its rank 73 most visited site according to some weird website i found on google
20:13 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> 
20:13 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> so one rank behind ddnet
20:55 < ChillerDragon> imagine using github instead of ryos git hosting services that change every year
20:55 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> ryos git hosting is too good for us, its premium
20:56 < ChillerDragon> but yea i can confirm what deen said at work we selfhost 99% of our code
20:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> yeah thats obvious xd
20:58 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u also dont ask questions on stackoverflow.. u still use it
20:59 < bridge_> <ryozuki> my git has been there for over a year lol
21:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> more uptime than github
21:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> https://git.edgarluque.com/
21:00 < bridge_> <ryozuki> yep
21:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> oma gad
21:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> u still working on ur game
21:00 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> epic
21:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> ye
21:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> today i added camera movement
21:01 < bridge_> <ryozuki> with the plyaer
21:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> teecity?
21:13 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> wassat?
22:08 < ChillerDragon> game
23:00 < bridge_> <unlucksmcgee> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124082051109372104/8f9cd39b0ded60c5.jpg
23:02 < bridge_> <ryozuki> as fake as it gets
23:04 < bridge_> <learath2> there was a thread full of these people on r/programmerhumor a couple days ago, corpos patting eachother on the back about how much money their code makes
23:05 < bridge_> <Jupstar ✪> Ddnet makes infinite fun. That's priceless
23:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> the virgin "my code makes money"
23:09 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> the chad "my code makes people have a fun time"
23:10 < bridge_> <_voxeldoesart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1124084451031384064/image0.jpg
23:20 < bridge_> <Ewan> i think this is just a reddit thing
23:20 < bridge_> <Ewan> a place for posers to get together and celebrate being posers without even realising
23:51 < bridge_> <teero777> hey what exactly is GameTickTime in the CGameClient its used for rendering a bunch of stuff? how is it calculated?