00:28 <+bridge> is there any mechanism for embedding resources into the game atm 00:28 <+bridge> i think it would be wise to bake the default skin into the game 00:29 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what if you want to change what the default akin looks like 00:29 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what if you want to change what the default skin looks like 00:29 <+bridge> then you provide default.png 00:29 <+bridge> std::embed in c++ 29 :) 00:29 <+bridge> embed is already in c23 00:30 <+bridge> just not cpp 00:30 <+bridge> and there are definitely ways to do it otherwise 00:30 <+bridge> linker tricks 00:30 <+bridge> and windows resources 00:30 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> we could embed the useless images no one mods like the f1 and f2 decor stuff 00:30 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> or blob 00:31 <+bridge> tell me if you figure out anything reasonable I also want to embed stuff 00:31 <+bridge> it's ez 00:31 <+bridge> ok how then 00:31 <+bridge> https://github.com/graphitemaster/incbin 00:31 <+bridge> u can also use bin2h 00:31 <+bridge> compile time step to turn data into a c array 00:31 <+bridge> i just wonder if there is an existing thing ddnet has for it 00:32 <+bridge> this works with msvc but i wouldn't recommend using it because the resources way is what's supported 00:32 <+bridge> i would abstract it 00:32 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what type of stuff :o 00:33 <+bridge> just this image lol 00:33 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120481422252195930/212435433-55e4e969-64ed-4ab2-8652-91901d2314a9.png 00:33 <+bridge> tela made it :) 00:33 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ah 00:33 <+bridge> you shouldn't have to embed it 00:33 <+bridge> yeah but its easier that way 00:36 <+bridge> hmm 00:39 <+bridge> wow i didn't realize png loading was so deeply integrated into the graphics backend 00:39 <+bridge> wow i didn't realize png loading was so deeply integrated into the graphics implementation 00:39 <+bridge> that Sucks 00:39 <+bridge> i figured it'd just take a blob of data and decode like sane people would make it do 00:39 <+bridge> not a file path 00:40 <+bridge> i have to reconsider things 01:09 <+bridge> xd 01:09 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120490546880843846/image.png 01:18 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> https://github.com/emuzulu/isEven @ryozuki you know what to do 01:18 <+bridge> i'm glad we have a library like this 01:18 <+bridge> finally someone addresses the need to determine whether a number is even or not 01:19 <+bridge> and they have multiple langauge implementations wow 01:42 <+bridge> like if u agree 01:42 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120498758921228348/image.png 01:43 <+bridge> i think i might keep the load function on the other thread so you can offload things like png decoding as well 01:43 <+bridge> cuz atm it stutters quite a bit 01:44 <+bridge> the file contents are loaded on the other thread but their data is being used on the main thread and decompressed there 04:39 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120543294619922493/image.png 04:39 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120543294926110810/image.png 04:39 <+bridge> wuh 04:39 <+bridge> how fix 04:45 <+bridge> ok it fixed itself 04:45 <+bridge> idk what was making it do that 04:46 <+bridge> there was nothing cargo running 07:35 <+bridge> You can do that 07:36 <+bridge> The graphics what take raw pointers in an overload 07:37 <+bridge> No. If we don't aim for .exe only, then there will be other resources and dlls anyway. The data dir should be seen as read only anyway 07:38 <+bridge> You just increase exe file with that without any return 08:06 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120595526317002862/image.png 08:06 <+bridge> no, this is the only overload 08:06 <+bridge> i guess it's not an overload if it's the only one lol 08:31 <+bridge> Bro then a different function 08:31 <+bridge> Don't parse every conversation like a bot 08:32 <+bridge> I bet the name is 90% the same 08:47 <+bridge> beep bop 08:48 <+bridge> :think_bot: 09:40 <+bridge> 10:00 <+bridge> hey, please be less insulting 10:04 <+bridge> Ok seriously. Insult? 10:05 <+bridge> Heinrich sometimes i have the feeling u abuse ur powers here. 10:05 <+bridge> I kindly asked him to not parse every conversation like a computer 10:05 <+bridge> discuss moderation in DM 10:05 <+bridge> not kindly though 10:05 <+bridge> Bro 10:06 < ws-client> I wrote "Bro" no need to time me out for this 10:08 < ws-client> @Discord Mod i am not breaking any rules, help 10:12 <@heinrich5991> ChillerDragon: you need to rejoin your ws-client btw 10:28 <+bridge> @mpft apparently the function you're looking for is called `LoadTextureRaw` 10:28 <+bridge> oh nice 10:32 <+bridge> sry i didn't mean to be so literal. i thought you meant there would be an actual overload of the function like there often is 10:33 <+bridge> a real overload is much easier to find than a similarly behaving function of a different name 10:36 <+bridge> I don't like overloads, especially not for different functionality like here 10:39 <+bridge> with who? 10:39 <+bridge> everybody is afraid of u anyway 10:40 <+bridge> you have the power to remove others from staff 10:40 <+bridge> wtf are you talking about? You can talk to any admin in DM if you have complaints 10:41 <+bridge> i already complained several times 10:41 <+bridge> for example to learath 10:41 <+bridge> nothing is done anyway 10:41 <+bridge> I don't think Learath2 is afraid of me 10:41 <+bridge> if nothing is done, another explanation is that it was deemed to be no issue 10:41 <+bridge> its more like he rather not go against you i guess 10:43 <+bridge> @deen i think you will always side with heinrich so i never seen u as an option to talk to 10:43 <+bridge> i only considered learath but he kinda half ignores me 10:43 <+bridge> idk about murpi 10:43 <+bridge> he is newer admin so i think he would also not go against heinrich, even if my complains are valid 10:45 <+bridge> my complain is actually rly simple, just make heinrich be less stringent in this chat, i think he is too much and often kills good conversations, people use remarks, yeah you may not always be 100% the most polite, but humans interact this way, like jupstar case right now 10:46 <+bridge> i also dont think we act on bad faith when we are like this 10:47 <+bridge> and actually his really strict moderation brings bad vibes, and confrontation 10:47 <+bridge> its a repeated issue if u have seen, idk 10:48 <+bridge> thanks for coming to my ted talk 10:48 <+bridge> u can now ban me for breaking the rule of dicussing mod here 10:49 <+bridge> I also don't think you act in bad faith. I still think that people should change their ways to become more accepting to newcomers and people who make mistakes. don't ridicule them, don't tell people they're stupid 10:52 <+bridge> I think it's just a cultural thing, and some people are used to a different kind of conversation culture. But since you don't know who you're talking to here, it's better to err on the side of caution. So just be nice to others, seems easy enough. 10:52 <+bridge> thats the thing, to me, i never seen as not being that nice 10:52 <+bridge> i guess its truly cultural then 10:53 <+bridge> yeah, but it can seem that way from the outside, or to people who don't know you well 10:53 <+bridge> too bad jupstar is timeouted, from german culture, and cant give his points here 10:54 <+bridge> he was timed out for 5 minutes 10:55 <+bridge> i.e. he's not timed out anymore 10:55 <+bridge> i still think its too strict anyway 10:57 <+bridge> does ddnet have a mail provider? 10:57 <+bridge> gandhi decided to not give mailboxes anyway 10:57 <+bridge> and i use it for wiki 10:57 <+bridge> I think ddnet.org can receive mails 10:57 <+bridge> > We also need to inform you of the end of the GandiMail service included with your domain (please note that the GandiMail service will end on November 30th, 2023). You can seamlessly convert to our new Mailbox service. In addition, we will introduce updates to our pricing policy effective July 13th 2023 for all our existing services and the new Mailbox service (EUR USD TWD ). 10:57 <+bridge> i need to send em 10:58 <+bridge> well i need mail for myself so ill search some 11:00 <+bridge> i wish i could just host it on my vps 11:01 <+bridge> the thing that sucks tho is that cloudflare doesnt protect mail anyway so i need it on a separate vps, even if it worked 11:05 <+bridge> i wasn't trying to pick apart your sentence jupstar i just want u to know 11:11 <+bridge> @mpft isnt it 3 am there 11:16 <+bridge> Yea 11:16 <+bridge> I was playing halo 11:16 <+bridge> With a British buddy 11:28 <+bridge> What did you expect? Last time you complained I found it reasonable, I came here, we had a chat about it. You not liking how he wants to moderate the discord isn't like abuse for example 11:29 <+bridge> i cant expect anything since heinrich wants it like this 11:29 <+bridge> We aren't going to pull out the guillotine because you want a more casual discord environment while he wants a more wholesom (and imo stiff) one 11:31 <+bridge> 🇫🇷 11:38 <+bridge> Fwiw it feels stiff (and a little fake) to me because in my native language, especially between friends swearing is extremely common and sterile language is extremely uncommon. I also grew up in the unhinged era of the internet, so even the nice communities I remember had almost no rules relating to conduct 11:39 <+bridge> But it's not 2010 people don't come equipped with thick skin anymore, not every new person feels like they are our friends and not every language has people swearing like sailors 11:40 <+bridge> we are not swearing like sailors anyway 11:44 <+bridge> Nah but you can be very mean, even unintentionally 11:57 <+bridge> im passionate, and also i get frustrated, lack of change, things go the way one wants even if we discuss things 11:57 <+bridge> im stupid for caring too much about a kirby game 11:59 <+bridge> it happens 12:06 <+bridge> btw: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6753 discusses asset handling, I think others also had an opinion on that 12:10 <+bridge> what, the embedded stuff? 12:10 <+bridge> Oh no the other stuff 12:10 <+bridge> Ok 14:13 <+bridge> waiting like a kid for the package to arrive 14:14 <+bridge> 14:18 <+bridge> @learath2 what is the bal thingy? 14:18 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120689118893056020/71JBznyYb4L.png 14:18 <+bridge> i only see "balanced output" references 14:19 <+bridge> i think its for long cables 14:21 <+bridge> Balanced output, each channel gets it's own ground 14:23 <+bridge> and usually more power 14:24 <+bridge> (the headphones you got don't have balanced input, so not important) 14:41 <+bridge> i see 14:42 <+bridge> whats that bass knob do 14:43 <+bridge> nvm google is a good tool 14:43 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120695406603538442/61Jfvj3yTRL.png 14:43 <+bridge> :poggers2: 14:43 <+bridge> mr amazon hasnt arrived yet 14:44 <+bridge> https://tenor.com/view/anime-astralyang-nervous-anime-gif-20361849 14:44 <+bridge> it's just a preset eq, I don't like the one on the e10k so I'd guess the one on the k3 isn't much better 14:44 <+bridge> is software eq equivalent? 14:45 <+bridge> can i get the high khz on linux 14:45 <+bridge> i guess yes 14:46 <+bridge> yes, digital signal processing before the dac might even be more accurate 14:46 <+bridge> nice 14:47 <+bridge> no idea, but who cares, you'll probably never have sources that high quality 14:47 <+bridge> are there no subs doing that? xd 14:47 <+bridge> you should be able to UAC2 is a standard 14:48 <+bridge> subs? 14:48 <+bridge> @learath2 in ddnet u can say the hz 14:48 <+bridge> anime subs 14:48 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> :justatest: 14:48 <+bridge> gotta hear the high quality oni chan 14:48 <+bridge> :poggers2: 14:48 <+bridge> thought bro meant subwoofers for a sec 14:48 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i prefer 8kb 14:49 <+bridge> 8bit 14:49 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> my waifu better sound like an xbox cod player 14:52 <+bridge> lolno, 384 kBaud * 32 bit is 12kbps audio, the best bluray encode I can find for an actual movie is about 5kbps audio 14:53 <+bridge> f 14:54 <+bridge> good thing is its usb-c i can connect it to the mac and have actual aux ports 14:54 <+bridge> the dac 14:54 <+bridge> it powers itself with the usb-c? 14:55 <+bridge> 384 kHz is actually way too high given the range of sounds humans hear 14:55 <+bridge> y 14:55 <+bridge> i wondewr if my phone can drive the headset xd 14:55 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> ryoz is a dog 14:56 <+bridge> easily 14:56 <+bridge> rly? 14:56 <+bridge> Sound Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers 14:56 <+bridge> 3.5mm jack Yes 14:56 <+bridge> 24-bit/192kHz audio 14:57 <+bridge> redmi note 11 pro 14:57 <+bridge> 384kHz is enough to reproduce up to 192kHz, the range is so wide it covers every living species 14:57 <+bridge> An 60 ohm headphone is easily driven by any device nowadays, I find mine a little quiet on the phone but it still works just fine 14:58 <+bridge> i think the 599 is 50ohm 14:58 <+bridge> less ohms, the easier to drive 14:58 <+bridge> Frequency response (speaker) 14:58 <+bridge> 12 Hz to 38,500 Hz 14:58 <+bridge> Impedance 14:58 <+bridge> 50 Ω 14:58 <+bridge> Sound pressure level (SPL) 14:58 <+bridge> 106dB SPL (1kHz/1Vrms) 14:58 <+bridge> Total harmonic distortion (THD) 14:58 <+bridge> < 0.1% (1kHz, 100dBSPL) 14:59 <+bridge> im afraid of carrying such expensive thing on the street anyways 14:59 <+bridge> xd 14:59 <+bridge> i just use my jbl wireless 14:59 <+bridge> Open backs are not enjoyable outside anyway 14:59 <+bridge> yeah 15:00 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i think you should build your own speaker like diy perks 15:01 <+bridge> I guess 384kHz isn't quite enough if you need to generate bat calls 15:13 <+bridge> build ur own microphone 15:18 <+bridge> https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/06/20/introducing-leadership-council.html 15:21 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> why does this entire preview sound so demeaning 15:22 <+bridge> https://marabos.nl/atomics/ 15:22 <+bridge> i need to read this 15:23 <+bridge> > Mara Bos has the best book of Concurrency (even better than the Concurrency in action with C++) https://marabos.nl/atomics/ 15:25 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120706067278602330/2xf5q2slm47b1.png 15:50 <+bridge> fancy comparison :), I wonder where twgpu spends the most time. I assume it runs on the vulkan backend? 15:51 <+bridge> (however I try to ignore performance for now. its *hard* to make my brain not think about performance stuff all the time tho) 15:52 <+bridge> I dunno. But twgpu seems to load stuff before the window is created sadly. So I assume that's also the biggest bottleneck. Everything before the GPU is used 15:52 <+bridge> and I think I know now how I can approach mipmaps for the atlases. mipmaps should come after the rest of the gameplay rendering stuff though. the last 1-2 weeks I actually had 0 time for twgpu, buuuuuut surely the next few weeks will be less stressful :) 15:53 <+bridge> I think I was already "too fair" removing a tiny framespan for twgpu since window creating takes around 100ms 15:53 <+bridge> ah you are counting the time from window creation to a displayed image? 15:54 <+bridge> Well not for twgpu. But i tested a small map like ctf where it was instant 15:54 <+bridge> So I assume whatever it does counts towards map loading 15:55 <+bridge> ( the time spent before window creation) 15:55 <+bridge> is ddnet-pg ur thing? 15:55 <+bridge> yea window creation is the first thing it does, though that should be changed I guess. At adapter creation you can pass a `compatible_surface` parameter to ensure you can render on the window. I should instead pass `None` there and just quickly check manually later 15:56 <+bridge> U sure about this? 15:56 <+bridge> which part of it :p 15:56 <+bridge> If the window is the very first thing created 15:56 <+bridge> It's mine 15:56 <+bridge> Twgpu is his 15:56 <+bridge> right after device creation I think 15:57 <+bridge> But some part of the map is loaded before the window is created? 15:57 <+bridge> That's what I experienced at least 15:57 <+bridge> ah the map gets loaded on the cpu, and basically right after the window is created https://gitlab.com/Patiga/twgpu/-/blob/8bb9c111af10cf85da90ab04ea856530fc2fbf35/twgpu-tools/src/bin/twgpu-map-inspect.rs#L45 15:58 <+bridge> Yeah 👍 15:58 <+bridge> That makes sense 15:58 <+bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks it sounds like ddnet-postgresql 15:59 <+bridge> And from that fact i removed like 200 Ms to compensate the loss while GPU is busy creating the surface 15:59 <+bridge> Deen said same 15:59 <+bridge> It's simply a shortcut for playground 15:59 <+bridge> BCS i am 5 and play with learath who is 12 there 15:59 <+bridge> The whole day 16:01 <+bridge> aaah I enjoy the comparison and the implied performance questions, but I gotta go back to work xd 16:01 <+bridge> I just gotta repeat 16:01 <+bridge> Patiga, you shouldn't care about twgpu performance right now 16:01 <+bridge> Patiga, you shouldn't care about twgpu performance right now 16:01 <+bridge> Patiga, you shouldn't care about twgpu performance right now 16:01 <+bridge> Xd 16:01 <+bridge> Well i can tell you something before u leave 16:01 <+bridge> Since I enabled benchmarks in my version 16:02 <+bridge> Loading the internal images from the zlib compression is the slowest part for me 16:02 <+bridge> Takes around 400ms 16:02 <+bridge> If it would be png, it would probably be double as fast 16:03 <+bridge> heh, yea I always hated that about map loading. its like >95% of the cpu time 16:03 <+bridge> those are part of the 600ms in your comparison? 16:03 <+bridge> Yes 16:03 <+bridge> :o 16:04 <+bridge> It also includes connecting to a local server 16:04 <+bridge> Using quic 16:04 <+bridge> epic 16:04 <+bridge> quic 16:04 <+bridge> get it 16:04 <+bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks when ready 16:04 <+bridge> Almost xd 16:04 <+bridge> i wanna play at 40k fps 16:04 <+bridge> 😬 16:04 <+bridge> 😬 16:05 <+bridge> Well my goal is mainly to get to vanilla support. I'm not sure if I'm the best person to implement ddrace 16:05 <+bridge> okay I leave now, and this time for real :p 16:05 <+bridge> Build on vanilla, i want to create an fng mod 16:05 <+bridge> Cya 16:14 <+bridge> 😬 16:29 <+bridge> thanks for the link, let's see how that turns out 16:31 <+bridge> interesting bit from the rfc is, mod team or council team can decide to disband both at same time 16:31 <+bridge> > As an absolute last resort, either the Council or the moderation team may choose to simultaneously dissolve both teams. Teams then select new representatives, and the contigent moderators become the interim moderation team and select successors. 16:50 <+bridge> i got the packet, setup time 17:05 <+bridge> that's very interesting 😮 17:05 <+bridge> this would have helped that one other time 17:05 <+bridge> when "the core team is unaccoutable" 17:07 <+bridge> also interesting. not sure if I'll find the time to read it 17:07 <+bridge> wdym? 17:10 <+bridge> @learath2 i got it workin 17:28 <+bridge> it rly sounds gooood 17:28 <+bridge> i guess its normal the dac heats up a bit xd 17:29 <+bridge> and these headphones are rly comfy 17:29 <+bridge> the previous ones i had rly put pressure 17:29 <+bridge> but they also passive closed sound 17:29 <+bridge> now i hear my keyboard lmao 17:34 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> the leadership council 17:34 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> empowering **everyone** 17:36 <+bridge> > Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software 17:36 <+bridge> refers to the rust lang itself 17:36 <+bridge> its the motto 17:36 <+bridge> https://www.rust-lang.org/ 17:37 <+bridge> its not specific to the article 17:45 <+bridge> yo my beautiful amigos, anyone know how setting CNetObj_PlayerInput works? It never seems to work properly for me and switches to some random weapon 17:46 <+bridge> what are you doing? 17:46 <+bridge> fooling around 17:46 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120741473932030052/image.png 17:46 <+bridge> trying to get weapon selection working on demand 17:47 <+bridge> Just getting this interface to work: 17:47 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120741675334119584/image.png 17:47 <+bridge> fooling around 17:47 <+bridge> this kind of thing isn't allowed on ddnet servers ;? 17:47 <+bridge> this kind of thing isn't allowed on ddnet servers :/ 17:47 <+bridge> i dont play on ddnet servers 17:47 <+bridge> for block 17:48 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i dont think its allowed on any server besides lan 17:48 <+bridge> oh well then guess ill figure it out 17:48 <+bridge> just a shame a lot of code isnt documented well so i have to go on a rabbit chase 17:48 <+bridge> and find how it works by example 17:54 <+bridge> oke figured it out i think, for some reason it doesnt use the weapons enums 17:56 <+bridge> it would be a diferent story if u werent making a bot 17:56 <+bridge> if u were contributing a feature to ddnet u would get help 17:56 <+bridge> i may contribute in the future 17:56 <+bridge> but i dont really know the codebase well enough as of right now 17:57 <+bridge> u started the wrong path 17:58 <+bridge> it's fine, as long as you don't publish your bot or use it where it's not allowed 17:58 <+bridge> its kind of ironic to try to get help from here to do a bot, where we get the pains of defending against them 17:58 <+bridge> but we don't really like helping to create bots 17:59 <+bridge> i have some blog posts, they arent aimed at botting though, but u may learn something https://edgarluque.com/categories/ddracenetwork/ 17:59 <+bridge> fair enough, it is a shame though cause there is some stuff that isn't obvious in the source code without going down a rabbithole, like that array of size 200 with the predicted characters 18:00 <+bridge> nice, thanks :D 18:00 <+bridge> another botter helped ! 18:00 <+bridge> i think it is obvious if u know more c++ 18:00 <+bridge> do u know c++ at all? 18:00 <+bridge> yes obviously 18:00 <+bridge> by answering that u dont know c++ 18:00 <+bridge> cuz nobody knows c++ 18:00 <+bridge> in my opinion 18:01 <+bridge> trap question kek 18:01 <+bridge> well sure, but I know it well enough to be productive 18:01 <+bridge> i assume thats what you meant 18:01 <+bridge> hmm idk about 18:01 <+bridge> i remember u asking weird questions to learath 18:01 <+bridge> or maybe it was someone else 18:01 <+bridge> hmm 18:01 <+bridge> i did ask something a few months ago but im not sure what it was anymore 18:02 <+bridge> this? 18:02 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120745454355886080/image.png 18:03 <+bridge> idk 18:03 <+bridge> dont bot xd 18:04 <+bridge> no promises there 🦔 18:07 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> i mean if you wanna not be able to play ddnet ever again thats on you 18:08 <+bridge> ok, if you can prove that i actually use my client unfairly on ddnet servers or released that client to the public 18:33 <+bridge> türk varmı 18:36 <+bridge> #off-topic 19:39 < furo> Hey @deen! I was messing around with the HTTP master server yesterday, and sending it "invalid" data. I set one of my clients name to the type null which I think broke your extract-master.py script as playtime for 2023-06-19 is 0 hours for everyone ;D sorry! 19:43 <@heinrich5991> furo: the http master server info field is free-form json 19:44 <@heinrich5991> I guess the extract-master.py script should be fixed 19:46 <+bridge> Power saving day, wdym! Nobody played 19:48 <@heinrich5991> furo: what are you interested in? :) 19:49 <@heinrich5991> the client ignores what it considers malformed server info 19:50 < furo> yeah, I noticed that after some testing. I was mainly pointing out that it breaks that script and that it should be fixed. 19:51 <@heinrich5991> looking for security vulnerabilities? 19:55 < furo> I guess, just playing around wondering what would happen if I messed with the data. Conclusion? Just as you said, the client just ignores the server. 19:56 <@heinrich5991> the code for that is here, btw: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/e22e0c9777f1814e84fbe76cfdf3644676c6dc7f/src/engine/shared/serverinfo.cpp#L59-L178 20:07 <+bridge> :justatest: 20:08 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> :justatest: 20:09 <+bridge> would be awesome if u fix urself what u find 20:10 <+bridge> we should fuzz the script 20:11 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> what does that mean 20:11 <+bridge> a fuzzer? 20:11 <+bridge> > A fuzzer is a program which injects automatically semi-random data into a program/stack and detect bugs. The data-generation part is made of generators, and vulnerability identification relies on debugging tools. 20:12 <+bridge> <_voxeldoesart> oh LOL 20:12 <+bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzing 20:12 <+bridge> > An effective fuzzer generates semi-valid inputs that are "valid enough" in that they are not directly rejected by the parser, but do create unexpected behaviors deeper in the program and are "invalid enough" to expose corner cases that have not been properly dealt with. 20:12 <+bridge> key part 20:22 <+bridge> furo: He, thanks for reporting 😄 20:33 <+bridge> i read its better t ofix mad out volume in software and then the hardware knob, cuz it compresses less 20:33 <+bridge> is it true? 20:33 <+bridge> i read its better to first max out volume in software and then the hardware knob, cuz it compresses less 20:33 <+bridge> god i cant type 20:33 <+bridge> yes 20:33 <+bridge> ok nice to know 20:33 <+bridge> at least 100% 20:33 <+bridge> cuz before i used to have software at min 20:33 <+bridge> don't scale it up more than that 20:48 <+bridge> @ravie_ravie 21:21 <+bridge> @robyt3 perfect 21:23 <+ChillerDragon> #how to go to part n parctice 21:23 <+ChillerDragon> got it 21:23 <+ChillerDragon> t/tp in spec 21:40 <+bridge> shouldnt we aim for usability and not for design for an editor? 21:40 <+bridge> sure it looks better inlined 21:41 <+bridge> i've seen people with modded f1 console though 21:41 <+bridge> but a html tag without extra click sounds useful 21:41 <+bridge> or "more usable" 21:41 <+bridge> color tag 21:45 <+bridge> We could allow shift+left-clicking the color picker button to immediately paste a color in RGB or RGBA hex format from the clipboard. And use shift+right-click to copy the current color to the clipboard. So it basically works like recipes in Factorio. 21:47 <+bridge> Robyt's previous PR improved the usability of the color picker and made the RGBA kinda useless 21:47 <+bridge> i mean that sounds useful too 21:47 <+bridge> you can now enter exact values as HSVA which is more user friendly 21:47 <+bridge> but couldnt we inline the whole color picker 21:48 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120802253687759018/image.png 21:48 <+bridge> in the images it looks like we have plenty of space 21:48 <+bridge> but color to button and use the full color picker 21:48 <+bridge> tile layers also have color properties 21:48 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120802430557376522/image.png 21:49 <+bridge> yeah that dialog is a mess but with this it's already an improvement 21:50 <+bridge> maybe the layer shifting could actually go to the Tools tab? from my own experience it's pretty rarely used 21:51 <+bridge> i kinda disagree, ddnet code base is kinda hard to get because some stuff are mixed 22:03 <+bridge> not only that, some stuff just isnt obvious without "Find in files" and trying to figure out by example or by the definition, and often times that process is recursive so its easier to ask one of you fellas 22:04 <+bridge> not only that, some stuff just isnt obvious without "Find in files" so you need to figure out by example or by the definition, and often times that process is recursive so its easier to ask one of you fellas 22:19 <+bridge> I also don't get why some data is duplicated in different structs, especially for the network part 22:19 <+bridge> Ryo u can use a high sample rate but you probably won't want to because the average person can't hear anything higher than 20,000Hz 22:19 <+bridge> 44.1kHz and 48kHz are both already well above that 22:19 <+bridge> if u use 192 it will chew ur cpu 22:20 <+bridge> Sample depth is much more important than sample rate 22:21 <+bridge> there are more artifacts in 48kHz then 192kHz due to aliasing 22:21 <+bridge> there are more artifacts in 48kHz than 192kHz due to aliasing 22:21 <+bridge> Yea 22:21 <+bridge> Also consider that 99% of your input streams will be 44.1 or 48 22:21 <+bridge> so your cpu has to resample everything 22:22 <+bridge> which can introduce more artifacts in and of itself 22:22 <+bridge> hmm 22:22 <+bridge> adding more keyboard n text shortcuts makes it harder for new mappers 22:23 <+bridge> why not 2 small buttons below the colorpicker to paste/copy 22:23 <+bridge> adding more keyboard and mouse* shortcuts makes it harder for new mappers 22:23 <+bridge> Pulseaudio would constantly crash for me on 96kHz but it was fine on 48 22:24 <+bridge> maybe fixed in pipewire & with a better cpu but idk 22:26 <+bridge> to clean up more, maybe make Detail into a checkbox instead, and possibly hide Color TO unless Color Env is set to an envelope 22:27 <+bridge> and honestly the Game tiles tool promotes bad mapping xd 22:27 <+bridge> so maybe move it to tools as well 22:27 <+bridge> Name: should logically be at the top of the menu as well 23:13 <+bridge> that's no problem as 192kHz is a multiple of 48kHz (not of 44.1 though) 23:14 <+bridge> and it's not resampling, more like interpolation 23:16 <+bridge> The editor code for these properties is rather rigid, so we can't even hide individual controls right now. That's we for the game layer the label for the property "Detail" is shown but the Yes/No buttons are hidden. 23:16 <+bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1120824468848267467/image.png 23:16 <+bridge>