08:27 < bridge> hey thanks for this, exactly what i was looking for. I'm gonna play with this soon. Might be some good info for the 'colors' section on the binds wiki, altho maybe a bit too tangential. I def want to add this into the wiki somewhere at least 08:56 < bridge> u should document this in the wiki 09:07 < bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks @Ryozuki https://twitter.com/esankiy/status/1649104852704690178 09:08 < bridge> oh 09:08 < bridge> he is using assets from store kek 09:09 < bridge> Nice. That's what I wanted to see 09:10 < bridge> so now u believe it 09:10 < bridge> @Ryozuki I think he uses quixel assets 09:11 < bridge> i feel the game will have rly simple gameplay 09:11 < bridge> and be boring 09:11 < bridge> but nice visuals 09:11 < bridge> Tru xd 09:33 < bridge> Could be like "Ready or not" 09:34 < bridge> Beating that game in graphics already 09:37 < bridge> The quixel/megascans library has this level of assets and nanite/lumen does make this level of rendering realism pretty feasible. So I'm really not very surprised it's not fake 09:38 < bridge> I hope he says that it was a single 4090 running it at 2k(trailer resolution) at 60fps .. that would be sick for future games i guess 09:38 < bridge> It's not even about graphics. It's the insane animations and camera handling too 09:39 < bridge> Yeah, that too. The dude most definitely mastered Matinee 😛 09:39 < bridge> On mobile the graphics indeed look real 09:39 < bridge> On desktop i can certainly see some uglier assets 09:41 < bridge> subprocess in script tries to launch every clang-format it knows on terminal, it actually works if i will not check for exact 10 version xd 09:41 < bridge> but yep seems its unnecessary 09:42 < bridge> we should update to llvm 17 clang format 09:42 < bridge> llvm itself has a clang format python script 09:49 < bridge> bro tf xd 09:49 < bridge> looks so good 10:04 < bridge> Personally I’m not too sure about the audio I think they need to bet some sounds recorded because the gunshots,door sounds don’t really sound convincing 10:04 < bridge> I don’t really see how it would work in regards to story or how they could keep the gameplay interesting over a long period but it may have a story that has not been shown in the trailer 10:05 < bridge> it could be like some games in which you have to clear a building 11:01 < bridge> Yes but how will this gameplay stay interesting 11:04 < bridge> @Chairn do u know about fully homomorphic encryption? 11:04 < bridge> https://fhe.org/ 11:04 < bridge> 11:04 < bridge> > Homomorphic encryption is a form of encryption that allows computations to be performed on encrypted data without first having to decrypt it. The resulting computations are left in an encrypted form which, when decrypted, result in an output that is identical to that produced had the operations been performed on the unencrypted data. Homomorphic encryption can be used for privacy-preserving outsourced storage and computation. This allows data to 11:04 < bridge> 11:05 < bridge> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homomorphic_encryption 11:05 < bridge> 11:05 < bridge> this paired with AI and chatgpt might not be a bad idea 11:06 < bridge> it's infinitely slow 11:07 < bridge> and neural nets need lots of computing power 11:07 < bridge> so not really a good fit 11:08 < bridge> i see 11:53 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1098909482236514354/image.png 11:54 < bridge> we sellin 12:02 < bridge> Ur company or personal? 12:02 < bridge> personal 12:02 < bridge> Epic 12:02 < bridge> Do u share the game? 12:02 < bridge> what game 12:02 < bridge> What 12:02 < bridge> No game no life 12:02 < bridge> :kek: 12:03 < bridge> are you asking if I hold any rights to the game I'm making? 12:03 < bridge> i wanna sell stuff too 12:03 < bridge> but idk what 12:03 < bridge> and i dont like c# 12:03 < bridge> sell rust tutorials 12:04 < bridge> I need that 12:04 < bridge> xd 12:04 < bridge> u just need to read the book 12:04 < bridge> (website) 12:04 < bridge> books are boring 12:04 < bridge> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ 12:04 < bridge> dont think of this as a book 12:04 < bridge> too much english 12:05 < bridge> I just found out tauri as an alternative to electron 12:05 < bridge> yeah 12:05 < bridge> but I haven't run into anything that I would need to implement in the backend yet 12:05 < bridge> mobile apps are the money 12:05 < bridge> if only i could do them with rust 12:05 < bridge> and not java 12:05 < bridge> or kotlin 12:05 < bridge> it is not possible? 12:05 < bridge> its possible but its more oriented to games 12:05 < bridge> i dont have the fancy ui builder 12:06 < bridge> it'll be there eventually 12:06 < bridge> Thought u sell some game 12:06 < bridge> i think he is selling a unity thing 12:06 < bridge> nah, just editor extensions for unity 12:07 < bridge> Ah yeah u mentioned it was declined some time s 12:07 < bridge> three times 12:07 < bridge> but ye, it is accepted finally 12:09 < bridge> if the rust "game engine" can do manual redraw instead of every frame. you can make a ui library using the game engine as a rendering engine probably. 12:09 < bridge> it probably wouldn't be too hard on battery life 12:09 < bridge> what i mean is that, the android studio rly makes ur life easier 12:09 < bridge> but u need to use a jvm lang 12:10 < bridge> with rust u can do anything obviously with enough effort 12:10 < bridge> i see 12:10 < bridge> i haven't used any ui builder for ages tho 12:10 < bridge> android studio is rly top tier 12:10 < bridge> i used it 12:10 < bridge> I didn't like android studio 12:10 < bridge> (its made by jetbrains with google) 12:10 < bridge> not sure what was it like today tho 12:11 < bridge> I did make like one app on google play store with android studio. I didn't enjoy it over just using typescripts and html lol 12:11 < bridge> oh well yeah html and ts is easier 12:11 < bridge> but its not native 12:12 < bridge> well ye, backend would still be in java or kotlin i guess 12:12 < bridge> tauri is adding android support 12:12 < bridge> rust backend 12:13 < bridge> ye 12:14 < bridge> @TsFreddie what are you selling? 12:14 < bridge> we just said it 12:14 < bridge> xd 12:14 < bridge> unity extension/asset 12:14 < bridge> on unity asset store 12:14 < bridge> ah 🙂 (couldn't find it in the backlog ^^) 12:18 < bridge> so wouldn't it still be a browser frontend tho 12:18 < bridge> yeah 12:19 < bridge> tauri uses the OS predefined "webview" 12:19 < bridge> isntead of bundling chromium 12:19 < bridge> like electron 12:19 < bridge> so its way less space 12:19 < bridge> also less ram 12:19 < bridge> hi ryozuki 12:19 < bridge> cuz its rust backend 12:19 < bridge> not nodejs 12:19 < bridge> I was trying to avoid electron when I found tauri 12:19 < bridge> i have plans for tauri 12:19 < bridge> i LOVE svelte 12:19 < bridge> and u can use tauri with any frontend framework 12:19 < bridge> sveltekit included 12:20 < bridge> I was hoping to find a nodejs backend without chromium tho 12:20 < bridge> reactjs doesnt come close to svelte 12:20 < bridge> svelte is rly gud 12:20 < bridge> but i ended up just using tauri anyway 12:20 < bridge> vue ftw 12:20 < bridge> omg svelte 12:20 < bridge> past tech 12:20 < bridge> modernize to svelte 12:20 < bridge> I just learnt sveltekit 12:20 < bridge> it's so good 12:20 < bridge> it is 12:20 < bridge> im using it 12:21 < bridge> rust with axum + sqlx for backend 12:21 < bridge> sveltekit with typescript frontend 12:21 < bridge> although I thought sveltekit can be full stack 12:21 < bridge> and sveltekit has a deno adapter 12:21 < bridge> so u run the frontend server with deno 12:21 < bridge> instead of the slow memory hog nodejs 12:21 < bridge> turns out the server-side stuff lacks a bit 12:21 < bridge> it rly is a difference 12:22 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1098916568060133438/image.png 12:22 < bridge> well 12:22 < bridge> i use rust for backend so 12:22 < bridge> idc 12:23 < bridge> :brownbear: 12:23 < bridge> I still haven't learned rust 12:24 < bridge> I'm too bad at learning rust specifically 12:24 < bridge> xd 12:24 < bridge> also rust has a metrics crate 12:24 < bridge> with prometheus 12:24 < bridge> rly gud 12:25 < bridge> go wasn't that bad but rust hurts my soul 12:25 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1098917370191433738/image.png 12:25 < bridge> there is a query i need to optimize 12:26 < bridge> it runs on a table with 7363850 records 12:26 < bridge> growing by 100k a day 12:26 < bridge> idk if its good or bad xd 12:27 < bridge> ```sql 12:27 < bridge> SELECT COUNT(*) as count, DATE_TRUNC('day', purchase_time) as day from purchase GROUP BY DATE_TRUNC('day', purchase_time) ORDER BY day DESC LIMIT 15 12:27 < bridge> ``` 12:28 < bridge> ```sql 12:28 < bridge> explain analyze SELECT COUNT(*) as count, DATE_TRUNC('day', purchase_time) as day from purchase GROUP BY DATE_TRUNC('day', purchase_time) ORDER BY day DESC LIMIT 15; 12:28 < bridge> QUERY PLAN 12:28 < bridge> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 12:28 < bridge> Limit (cost=486669.97..486673.74 rows=15 width=16) (actual time=1022.245..1121.289 rows=15 loops=1) 12:28 < bridge> -> Finalize GroupAggregate (cost=486669.97..1307838.10 rows=3267753 width=16) (actual time=1015.092..1114.132 rows=15 loops=1) 12:28 < bridge> Group Key: (date_trunc('day'::text, purchase_time)) 12:28 < bridge> -> Gather Merge (cost=486669.97..1237076.59 rows=5982920 width=16) (actual time=1012.752..1114.114 rows=46 loops=1) 12:28 < bridge> Workers Planned: 2 12:28 < bridge> Workers Launched: 2 12:28 < bridge> -> Partial GroupAggregate (cost=485669.94..545499.14 rows=2991460 width=16) (actual time=729.113..927.120 rows=1097 loops=3) 12:28 < bridge> Group Key: (date_trunc('day'::text, purchase_time)) 12:28 < bridge> -> Sort (cost=485669.94..493148.59 rows=2991460 width=8) (actual time=728.790..844.880 rows=1766009 loops=3) 12:28 < bridge> Sort Key: (date_trunc('day'::text, purchase_time)) DESC 12:28 < bridge> Sort Method: external merge Disk: 29496kB 12:28 < bridge> Worker 0: Sort Method: external merge Disk: 28584kB 12:28 < bridge> Worker 1: Sort Method: external merge Disk: 28544kB 12:28 < bridge> -> Parallel Seq Scan on purchase (cost=0.00..123001.25 rows=2991460 width=8) (actual time=3.744..551.538 rows=2454637 loops=3) 12:28 < bridge> Planning Time: 0.572 ms 12:28 < bridge> JIT: 12:28 < bridge> Functions: 22 12:28 < bridge> Options: Inlining false, Optimization false, Expressions true, Deforming true 12:28 < bridge> Timing: Generation 3.093 ms, Inlining 0.000 ms, Optimization 0.951 ms, Emission 16.912 ms, Total 20.956 ms 12:28 < bridge> Execution Time: 1157.467 ms 12:28 < bridge> (20 rows) 12:28 < bridge> ``` 12:29 < bridge> :justatest: 12:29 < bridge> maybe pre-calculating the date by day could save time 12:29 < bridge> on the table 12:30 < bridge> is it your job or you're just making stuff 12:31 < bridge> this is a hobby project 12:31 < bridge> its this site https://market.xivhub.org/ 12:31 < bridge> epic 12:31 < bridge> at my job i build a compiler 12:36 < bridge> Ryo gets smart af. I'm jealous 12:43 < bridge> u know a lot about vulkan 12:43 < bridge> dont be 12:43 < bridge> xd 12:43 < bridge> and im stupid 12:43 < bridge> also ur smarter now 12:43 < bridge> cuz u use rust 12:46 < bridge> this reminds me i need to setup elastic search and add it to the wiki 12:46 < bridge> now that i have my vps with 64gb ram 12:47 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1098922942974398544/image.png 12:48 < bridge> didnt know itt had a gpu 12:48 < bridge> i wonder what that is 12:50 < bridge> Wtf 12:50 < bridge> Why u have such a beast as vpn 12:51 < bridge> vps 12:51 < bridge> * 12:51 < bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks the reason is 12:51 < bridge> cuz i want 12:51 < bridge> thats it 12:51 < bridge> too many moneys lying around? 12:51 < bridge> its not a vps tho 12:51 < bridge> well it is 12:52 < bridge> it theorically is metal or idk the term 12:52 < bridge> dedicated server? 12:52 < bridge> i mean i would say im not too bad, but i simply enjoy having a good server at my disposal 12:52 < bridge> to test and have my stuffs 12:52 < bridge> ye 12:52 < bridge> dedicated 12:52 < bridge> its 45€ month iirc 12:52 < bridge> hetz 12:53 < bridge> :justatest: being public shamed for having a server :justatest: 12:53 < bridge> I mean if u like it why not;) 12:53 < bridge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1098924589494579210/image.png 12:54 < bridge> this one iirc 12:54 < bridge> But sounds like second desktop PC xd 12:54 < bridge> ye xd 12:54 < bridge> Also sounds very expensive actually xd 12:54 < bridge> xd 12:55 < bridge> its like paying for chatgpt 2x a month 12:55 < bridge> this reminds me that I'm paying a lot for ger2 ^^ 12:55 < bridge> how much 12:56 < bridge> I like netcups root server. U have dedicated cores, so the computing time is not shared. But the CPUs itself are still shared 12:56 < bridge> in the same range 12:56 < bridge> but well with my job i can pay this ez 12:56 < bridge> What strikes me a bit, is that the cpu is rather old and still it's not really cheap 12:57 < bridge> hmm 12:57 < bridge> idk if i found cheaper 12:57 < bridge> but the cpu is not bad 12:57 < bridge> i can say im biased towards amd 12:57 < bridge> there are intel options 13:00 < bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks i just need to make a saas that earns 45$ month :justatest: 13:00 < bridge> It's Not bad. My point is rather. For that price u get the same shit on ebay and can host urself. Sicne u have good internet 13:00 < bridge> Ez 13:01 < bridge> but no static ip 13:02 < bridge> and electricity costs and stability 13:04 < bridge> I use dyndns for that 13:04 < bridge> Well electricity is pretty cheap except u know the server is rarely idle ^^ 13:04 < bridge> Dunno what u calculating the whole day xd 13:08 < bridge> xd 13:19 < bridge> No one has home internet “datacenter good” 13:19 < bridge> You can have good speeds at home, but datacenters have strategic peering 13:26 < bridge> Yeah, but why would u need this professionalism for personal projects xd 13:28 < bridge> I also have a 30e dedicated server, I mostly have it for proxying through, being my permanently on irc bouncer, monero node, etcetc 13:28 < bridge> seems like we waste some money 13:28 < bridge> I mostly still have it just because it was cheaper when I initially got it then germany decided energy should be 2x 13:29 < bridge> Not like I have anything else to spend the money on, might aswell have a cool server 13:30 < bridge> It also let’s me host more rsc intensive games when friends fancy playing 13:31 < bridge> Probably s/‘// there but I’m not a 100% on that one 😛 13:33 < bridge> hobbies are waste of money 13:33 < bridge> see, u get it 13:34 < bridge> s#'## indeed 13:34 < bridge> let's is always short for "let us" 13:34 < bridge> If I had a job I’d probably have an even cooler one like yours 😄 13:34 < bridge> u can use sed with any separator 13:34 < bridge> It’s forbidden knowledge 13:34 < bridge> s,/,, 13:34 < bridge> yes, but discord special-cases / so I can't use / 13:35 < bridge> troll sed 13:35 < bridge> s"'"" 13:35 < bridge> this is like s/'// 13:35 < bridge> You can do `s\/‘//` 13:35 < bridge> XD 13:35 < bridge> hmm, any byte? unicode codepoint? grapheme? emoji cluster? 13:35 < bridge> idk 13:35 < bridge> sed uses C so probably ascii kek 13:36 < bridge> I’d guess any ascii 13:36 < bridge> 👨‍👨‍👦‍👦 13:36 < bridge> Maybe any unicode codepoint if very very well implemented 😄 13:37 < bridge> ```sh 13:37 < bridge> $ echo abc | sed sßbßbbß 13:37 < bridge> sed: -e expression #1, char 2: delimiter character is not a single-byte character 13:37 < bridge> ``` 13:37 < bridge> Discords version of the sed syntax clearly shows that it was implemented by someone that only opens the terminal to write `npm build` 13:38 < bridge> im cooler 13:38 < bridge> i use pnpm 13:38 < bridge> easy casual "JS developers bad" embedded in "discord developer unexperienced" 13:39 < bridge> if we are real 13:39 < bridge> most js devs are people who took a 1 time course 13:39 < bridge> I worked hard to get both into one sentence 13:39 < bridge> they barely interested on programming 13:40 < bridge> also typescript is a sign of js being bad 13:40 < bridge> typescript is passable 13:53 < bridge> TIL https://blendermarket.com/categories/scripts-and-addons 13:53 < bridge> a marketplace for blender addons 13:53 < bridge> its python tho 13:53 < bridge> my life is sad, no rust addons anywhere 14:00 < bridge> be the change you wnat to be in the world? 14:00 < bridge> you can produce python modules with rust using pyo3 I think 14:06 < bridge> :brownbear: 15:30 < bridge> I think most open source addons are simply hosted on github/gitlab, since an addon is just a zip file containing a python module 15:30 < bridge> blender is the only reason i ever coded python 🙃 15:31 < bridge> they are sold there, with GPL license 15:33 < bridge> https://polyhedral.info/ 15:42 < bridge> looked up some addons from https://github.com/agmmnn/awesome-blender, and to my surprise some of them are actually in the market, but definitely not most from my sample 15:43 < bridge> but good idea, maybe I should just upload my twmap addon for free there for better visibility 16:26 < bridge> tell me if i should fix the max_clients-1 thing because i still dont know if i should 16:28 < bridge> @Jupeyy_Keks since how long r u working on ur company 16:28 < bridge> and did u ever ask for a raise 17:45 < bridge> How much does he earn? 17:46 < bridge> Just calculated my hourly rate and it is above about 18€ 17:51 < bridge> @DefaultO r u german 17:51 < bridge> or russian 17:51 < bridge> German. Yeah its low. 17:51 < bridge> 55k yer? 17:51 < bridge> 51* 17:51 < bridge> Only daydream job 17:51 < bridge> if so, not low here xD 17:52 < bridge> what does that mean 17:52 < bridge> You sure? Looked it up. Avg. is at 28€ 17:52 < bridge> You sure? Looked it up. Avg. is at 28€/hour. 17:53 < bridge> i guess my math is off 17:53 < bridge> idk 17:53 < bridge> I earn more than that with less work with my pay 2 cheat company 17:53 < bridge> So its not what I really have on me at the end of each year 17:53 < bridge> definitly not in spain 17:53 < bridge> We are still in Germany 17:54 < bridge> I didnt move a few secs ago 17:54 < bridge> I didnt move just a few secs ago 17:54 < bridge> i think 8€ is avg 17:54 < bridge> i earn about 16€ 17:54 < bridge> but nobody uses hourly rates here 17:54 < bridge> thats a american thing 17:54 < bridge> we just say the yearly 17:54 < bridge> Nah mate. Programmers. Min wage is 9€ something. 17:54 < bridge> Nah mate. Programmers. Min wage is 9€ something in Germany. 17:54 < bridge> i tell u 17:55 < bridge> but well here in spain if u work for a spanish company 17:55 < bridge> expect to be paid bad 17:55 < bridge> or idk i havent found any good one 17:55 < bridge> i work for international 17:56 < bridge> @DefaultO how much u wait/waited to ask for a raise 17:56 < bridge> thats what i wanna know 17:56 < bridge> I havent 17:56 < bridge> Thats what I get once I finished my test next week 17:57 < bridge> Company wants me. Company needs me. 17:57 < bridge> well well 17:57 < bridge> dont get swayed by words 17:57 < bridge> anyone is easily replaced 17:57 < bridge> Not in a 4 man company. 17:57 < bridge> oof 17:57 < bridge> i workedi n a small company 17:57 < bridge> its better to work in a medium or bigger one imho 17:57 < bridge> Where the devs know how everything works 17:57 < bridge> And if you kick one of them 17:58 < bridge> thats a sign of bad org 17:58 < bridge> Your company probably won't recover 17:58 < bridge> imho 17:58 < bridge> i prefer medium or bigger 17:58 < bridge> also more opportunity to learn from others 17:58 < bridge> u gotta leech the knowledge 17:58 < bridge> I do 17:59 < bridge> Marco before me did too 17:59 < bridge> Ended up getting 4.5€ per month 17:59 < bridge> But because his child is ill. He looked for a job where he can work from home. 18:00 < bridge> another reason to not go for spanish companies here 18:00 < bridge> they prefer u work from office 18:00 < bridge> like a bee 18:00 < bridge> Ended up getting 4.500€ per month 18:00 < bridge> Guess I am earning good then 18:01 < bridge> Though a spanish guy can't prove that to me 18:01 < bridge> Germany has expensive workers 18:01 < bridge> That's why everyone goes to China. But China realized they drive the world. So they get more expensive too. 18:02 < bridge> That sounds like inflation 💀 18:03 < bridge> Guess I am earning good then. I don't believe you though. I will end up getting 1.500€ something after taxes. 18:04 < bridge> Guess I am earning good then. I don't believe you though. I will end up getting 1.500€ something after taxes. Expect me to pay around 1000€ for a shitty flat. And food isn't free either. 18:05 < bridge> Germany has expensive workers because everything here is expensive 18:07 < bridge> Aka money devalueing itself 18:10 < bridge> My other jobs earnings are between 28.000€ and 35.000€. I don't pay taxes on them. But I also don't get to keep it either. Can get a few € from it for myself without anyone raising their eyebrows. 18:12 < bridge> That's money you can pay with in IRL shops 18:13 < bridge> ^ That's money you can pay with in IRL shops 18:13 < bridge> A couple hundred Euros pretty much, something below 1000€ 18:36 < bridge> but u work for an argentinian company arent u 18:36 < bridge> its 12€, are u living in a cave lol 18:36 < bridge> no leaks kek 18:36 < bridge> but i get paid a above average rate in spain 18:36 < bridge> really? 18:36 < bridge> ye 18:37 < bridge> would be surprising to me, but well 18:37 < bridge> i earn about 2100€ monthly, average is 1500 18:37 < bridge> i'd ask once per year maybe if u want more 18:37 < bridge> or after the first 6 months 18:37 < bridge> well ofc depends on how many h per week 18:38 < bridge> anyway @Ryozuki 18:38 < bridge> 100% serious, your job from what u showed, sounds really cool 18:38 < bridge>