00:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does crash when someone attempts to join the server. 00:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] after the map download 03:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/ 03:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Run Linux DDNet-Server binary from website, join server, change map to the one I sent, server crashes. Nothing fishy in the terminal log except "Segmentation Fault" 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] That is a 100% way to reproduce the bug. 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] We also managed to crash the server randomly just by playing a bunch on other maps. 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Building from the source fixes the issue, at least on anyone's machine except @deen :santatrollet: 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Don't miss your chance to be rich 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ✌️👍🙏DiscJockey is my name and I'm an admin with my own store link and group link https://t.me/+_kTifpKvc-kwNDJk 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is my group link, you can check and prove my legal work there. 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🙏UPDATE My Services\: Sell PayPal account verified – PayPal transfer \*Sell Bank Transfer – Bank Login \*Sell Clone card - Secure shipping tunnel \*cc Fullz sell and random Information – 99% valid cards \*Sell Dumps with pin track 1 and 2 101 201 \*Sell Western Union money transfer services \*Sell Gift Cards Itune – Amazon – Ebay Clone/Credit Cards \*Sell Booking airfare services – worldwide \*Sell e-carding services \*SMTP 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] TRANSFER SERVICE 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] BTC/USDT/CASHAPP 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] TN PRAYER PAYMENT 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] PRAYER TO ARIZONA 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] What MASS UI DUA has 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] EDD RELOAD 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ALL GOVERNMENT PRAYER PAYMENTS 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] METHOD IS AVAILABLE!! 04:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] FULLZ 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] PAYPAL 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] CASH APPLICATION 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] 04:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] CASTINGS+PINS 05:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] suggestion, add an icon at the edge of the hud that indicates if your team is locked or not 08:21 <+ChillerDragon> Yea that sounds nice 08:22 <+ChillerDragon> also lock icons can be really obvious to understand :) 08:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs 08:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] good morning 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] built in a debian 10 chroot 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thanks, I can repro the crash 10:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsbadman: 10:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039831433298063410/unknown.png 10:49 <+ChillerDragon> F 10:50 <+ChillerDragon> wait I can not reproduce how do I get git some? :( 10:51 <+ChillerDragon> Would be hilarious if it worked 11:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/GROSSWEBER/git-some 11:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] This one maybe 11:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> You about "ui_close_window_after_changing_setting"? 11:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> It would be really convenient if for example there was some kind of flag from server-side 11:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Issue transfered to , as @Ryozuki commented maybe finally implementing server custom menu will be solution, but not sure how that will work and probably a lot of new graphics will be needed, to fold/unfold and maybe even drag this menu 11:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> I already did that xd 11:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I remember, but that was on 0.7 and ddnet guys are kinda sceptical, i think :justatest: 11:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> I think you right 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] It doesnt need more graphics than what we have currently 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> 2021 06 xd 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039854361108561940/bandicam_2021-06-06_23-25-22-789-1.mp4 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] That looks good 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dislike the fade out tho 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> It requires no libraries, has window action flags, and registers an inverse function, interconnected by a tree 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> For example if you kill a menu, all submenus will be closed 11:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> It no libraries needed, has window action flags, and registers an inverse function, interconnected by a tree 11:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> For example if you kill a menu, all submenus will be closed 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> No libraries needed 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah sounds good 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039857028346163291/unknown-2.png 12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039858362235490344/output.png 12:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's a little sad that other mods are statistically insignificant 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] :2982pepecry: 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] It'd be great for the health of the game if we had more mod players 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] It is really difficult to make a mod idea that stays interesting for players so they keep returning 13:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] So I made a nightly build with symbols and can't reproduce it anymore :/ 13:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Heisenbug pog 13:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] or it's fixed in nightly maybe 13:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] nope, just happens without symbols, but still fails on nightly without symbols 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Asan is clean too 13:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] Skill Issue 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen it crashes exactly when a client is connected 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can start the server with that map exactly 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] And it'll only crash once a player connects 13:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well, still doesn't help me with figuring out the reason 13:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Moderator I'm playing steam, don't ban me 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Moderator I'm playing steam, don't ban me 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] i had 2 maps on my old pc 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] one crashed server 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] second every player that connected 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] kekw 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] `Updating crates.io index` is this gonna happen every time when i clean build or it is downloaded somewhere in home directory? took like 2 mins 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm not getting that when building from scratch 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] all I get is the expected components in Rust being rebuilt: 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Compiling ddnet-engine-shared v0.0.1 (/Users/deen/git/ddnet/src/engine/shared) 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Compiling ddnet-test v0.0.1 (/Users/deen/git/ddnet/src/rust-bridge/test) 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Compiling ddnet-base v0.0.1 (/Users/deen/git/ddnet/src/base) 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Compiling ddnet-engine v0.0.1 (/Users/deen/git/ddnet/src/engine) 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Finished release [optimized] target(s) in 0.67s 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah ig it is on the home folder, i am not getting it anymore. i just installed rust first time so 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] those go into ~/.cargo 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] The first index update is quite big 14:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think they're working on sparse registries which would make the updates small 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki do you know how I can execute rust-analyzer without setting it up in some IDE? 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This command type checks the whole project in batch mode bypassing LSP machinery. 14:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] it doesn't crash though, it completes 14:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] AFAICT 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think the program itself doesnt crash 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] It reports that it fails to check cuz the build script 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] Panics 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] "failed to run build scripts Check the server logs for additional information" 14:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you know where those are? @Ryozuki 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Doesnt it say where? 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] I forgot rn 14:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not at a pc currently 15:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] I found it in the output console within vscode 15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki does this help with your problem? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6025 15:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 where did you find the env var? I did google around a bit for it but couldn't find it 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] I googled around and didn't find anything but some other weird hack 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] so I just took a look at the environment I get 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah I was thinking that too 😄 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] then checked the source code of rust-analyzer for that variable, to see if it's reliable 15:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] trying now 15:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] fixed: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6024 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] How does that even happen? Why is FindEntities even returning >0 here? 15:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] Works 15:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Player just joined, but character isn't initialized properly yet? 15:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hm, no laptop with me so I can't check but Players don't really have a position, nor is CGameWorld even aware of them iirc 15:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean if it fixes the issue it fixes the issue. Just wanted to make sure we aren't masking a deeper issue 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hm, it's really weird indeed 15:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] We dereference the character in FindEntities as well and there it doesn't fail 15:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] the only thing I can imagine is that the entity has ENTTYPE_CHARACTER type, but is still not a CCharacter 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do we dereference as a CCharacter there? Maybe some undefined behaviour? 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] there we use it as CEntity only 15:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] ubsan should catch that though, hm 15:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] UB 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Learning cxx rust 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hope i can add some rust stuff 16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cxx.rs/tutorial.html 18:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039951353558077532/RDT_20221109_1815136032607740328601072.jpg 18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmaooo 18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] I realize it's only a joke. sleep() doesn't guarantee accurate sleep times, this function might easily return `num1 + num2 - 1` 18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] `sleep(abs(num1) 18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] sleep(abs(num2)` 18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] considering how slow python is i could imagine they have code paths like these 18:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 18:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] num1 + num2 :justatest: 18:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg so slow 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] gg 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Got a new job 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] My pay augmented by 8k€ 19:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] 19:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] After 4 interviews 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Rust,erlang,elixir,julia 19:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Some langs they use 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkaS: 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] (yearly) 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats... 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] \:) 19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean im above average on spain rn ngl 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] where are you working? what are you doing there? what do you make? 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] just trying to figure out whether it's something I'd also like to do 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] in ukraine average salary is ~320$/mo :kek: 19:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] They focus a lot on distributed systems 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] you know erlang and elixir? 😮 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] And virtual machines like java 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah, I misread 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] cool 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Its what they use 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyway i can free myself from nodejs stuff now 19:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Full rust 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] cool 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] per month or per year? 😄 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Per year ye 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] If i got 8k per month i would be super upper class 19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] :BASED: 19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] and what are you doing there? 19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont wanna dox myself xd 19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyway happy day 19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay 🙂 19:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] You are studying still right? 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Im sure u will get a good job 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ur rly good 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] although I'll probably finish at some point ^^ 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] thank you 19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] One thing is its easy to get comfy on a boring job thats routine 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] But well im young so i wanted to change and risk a bit more 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] you never finish studying 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] every day you learn something new 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe one will finish university though 😉 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think this dev chat makes a bubble 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] The level here is above average by a lot 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Rust bubble? 😄 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nah xd 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well too 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] All hail rust 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkalaugh: 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] So one might think they dont know much 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thanks for coming to my ted talk 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] Im still amazed that ddnet is what got me most into programming 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] And here i am, working on it now 19:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] 19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki local company in Barcelona? How are the notice periods in Spain usually? No one wanted to hire me when I had 6 months notice period 😄 19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] and congrats 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] how long is your notice period now? @deen 19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15 day period 19:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1 month, but it's a US company so kind of expected to be the legal minimum here 19:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] all chats are a bubble, a non representative group of any larger group 19:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i guess xd 19:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] for instance, no chat has people with no internet access 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 31% monthly net pay increase 19:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not bad 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] is noalias tag standard? 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/restrict 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] restrict 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] its called 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039980862743265310/image.png 20:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is what a &mut is in rust more or less iirc 20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] this can enable some optimizatiosn 20:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe we can use it 20:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its hard to use cuz UB 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh wait 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] is this a C only thing? 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] not C++? xd 20:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] it works in c++ with gcc and double underscore: `__restrict__` 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it might be non standard 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] in c++ 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 20:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] > restrict is a c99 keyword. Yes, Rpbert S. Barnes, I know that most compilers support __restrict__. You will note that anything with double underscores is, by definition, implementation specific and thus NOT C++, but a compiler specific version of it. – 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > KitsuneYMG 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Jan 6, 2010 at 9:31 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > restrict is a c99 keyword. Yes, Rpbert S. Barnes, I know that most compilers support `__restrict__`. You will note that anything with double underscores is, by definition, implementation specific and thus NOT C++, but a compiler specific version of it. – 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > KitsuneYMG 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Jan 6, 2010 at 9:31 20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Debugging with an optimized binary and LTO is such pain 20:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends 20:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] do we have another UB in our code? 20:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] the answer is probs yes 20:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] its c++ 20:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] ub can exist and be mostly harmless iirc 20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] enabling lto on a rust project made the runtime go from 70s to 58s 20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] poggers 20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] thinlto 60s 20:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] within noise probs 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i once had a compiler bug in gcc with lto 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] so not impossible its a compiler bug, better always also test with clang 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] why does C++ not have that "restrict" feature? 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah, weird. I wanted to use that too 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] two alternatives: 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1. make FindEntities be a template method so no cast 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] 2. Always keep apPlayersInRange as CEntity** 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] The second one works 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] haven't tried first yet 20:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] zero-length arrays and unions seem like weird hacks to work around this, don't like them 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] [build] mimalloc: warning: thread 0x7f725bc006c0: unable to allocate aligned OS memory directly, fall back to over-allocation (67108864 bytes, address: 0x7f7257000000, alignment: 67108864, commit: 0) 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] [build] mimalloc: warning: thread 0x7f725bc006c0: mi_usable_size: pointer might not point to a valid heap region: 0x7f7254020080 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] [build] (this may still be a valid very large allocation (over 64MiB)) 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 21:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf is that xD 21:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] is that a new rust feature xD 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] where do you get that from? 😮 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] is ddnet outputting that? 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] i started vscode, pressed compile 21:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm, that sounds like it might be vscode though 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think mimalloc is microsoft malloc 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea: https://github.com/microsoft/mimalloc 21:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok but weird, bcs its inside the terminal and says [build] 21:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] yep also happens in terminal 21:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm 21:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's during build or during run? 21:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] build 21:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe clang broken 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1 google entry for that warning 5 days ago 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] ez 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] seems to be related to mold 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] and linux 6.1 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😄 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] link? 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] u should report it 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://bytemeta.vip/repo/microsoft/mimalloc/issues/640 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] well i needed to upgrade to linux 6.1 bcs my nvme doesnt work on linux 6.0 xD 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] so quite possible i am just living on the edge too much 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] linux 6.1 is the one that contains rust, no? 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] or at least infrastructure to support modules in written in rust 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think so yeah 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] i use 6.1 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] didnt find problems 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i use gcc 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] and not mold 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] do i use 6.1 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have this feeling that the issue here is that the character is in static memory 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe not 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1039997246160252928/image.png 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i use 6.0.7 lol 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i guess gentoo hasnt patched it yet 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] debian fast af 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] well i wonder why gentoo doesnt have 6.1 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh, so you figured it out? What is the real issue? 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] probs bcs its only release candidate yet 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] I didn't spot a strict aliasing issue there 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah yeah 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's also probably because the patchset isn't tested yet 21:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] i need to get a guru account 21:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ah, nope, vanilla-sources doesn't have 6.1 yet either 21:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:GURU/Information_for_Contributors 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] who the fuck takes const ref to an int xD 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] const bool 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] It should work 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] ref 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] ryo already knew it 2 years ago 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] heinrich already got his answer two years ago 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but const ref int is 8 bytes, vs 4 bytes if the compiler isnt optimizing this lel 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's gonna take an extra 8 bytes 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] the actual int has to be stored somewhere, too 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] registers 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] not if you have a pointer to it ^^ 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks how do u find this 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] so a const ref to an int needs like 12 bytes in this case 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] i remembered the pr when we talked about it 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] so i just searched the pr 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] true^^ 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] if somebody wants to enlighten me, i am still interested in knowing if atomics have downsides 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] e.g. variables could live in L1/2/3 cache only 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] or simply in registers 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] But ofc interesting cases are objects with a specific lifetime, e.g. heap objects 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] And what about stack allocated objects? 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] What if a share a stack object with another thread lol 22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] who is compiler pro here, do we have such ppl 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you put your atomic into a register, then there cannot be a downside 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think with LTO FindEntities is inlined and the Entities array being passed to it in a different type is causing the strict aliasing problem. 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't quite get your question. what do you mean? do you ask if atomics can live in registers? 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, they can 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] well if the compiler can assume it so easily 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] i some situation it probs optimizes them out 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's the same as for a normal variable 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it'd put the normal variable into a register, it'd also do it for the atomic 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] atomics have overhead right 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] not Ordering::Relaxed ones 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] not `Ordering::Relaxed` ones 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] on all platforms that I know 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i find it curious many people confuse volatile with it being thread safe because the compiler cannot reorder it 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] right? 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hm, I don't really see the aliasing issue there :/ 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe I need to brush up on my aliasing rules 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] well with what optimization level? 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] `volatile` was the way to go before C had a memory level 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah i see 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] `volatile` was the way to go before C had a memory model 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] e.g. o2 might consider this a break of the standard which garantuees visibility of the atomic or smth like this 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] at the optimization level where vector iterators don't have overhead over pointers 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] new shiny stuff 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/features/code-search 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] well thats the optmization i use xdd 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] its funny 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] they show rust code 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] in the image 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] XD 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1040012979783082135/image.png 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] i could swear i trigged this today already, without applying for the beta 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet]