00:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] well not caring is an option 00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] but if u like making ur editor rly ur own in a way it makes coding more enjoyable then even better 00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] but if u like making ur editor rly ur own in a way it makes coding more enjoyable (for you) then even better 00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] chiller switching to neovim from vim is just a drop in 00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] its compatible 00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i actually alias vim to nvim 00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] ur vim config will work on neovim 00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] print the code and send it to elon musk 00:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1k for one LGTM 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1588772122125815808 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] interesting read 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] SRE = stack ranked engineer 00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] i never read that buzz word 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i think it means engineers that know the ins and outs 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] the whole stack 00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] sre? site reliability engineer 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] ahh 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] well he lates says stack ranked engineers 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] iguess its not related to sre 00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] or maybe i did missread 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] a image he quotes, idk from who 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038593108167905501/image.png 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] ohh 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] i get it now 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] as in elon ranked engineers with line of codes 00:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] english suxs 00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice let's add //---------- THIS IS THE START OF THE COMMENT ------ // style 100 code block just to not get fired 00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] not sure if that's actually confirmed tbh 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] its like the two guys in front of the twitter building 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] that trolled the media 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] and said they were fired 00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] he definitly fired ppl 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588671155766194176 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] well if you worked at twitter 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can get a job literally everywhere 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] why would u buy a company that loses 4m/day 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] to make it better? 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] and its a meme 00:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] win/win 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] surely he will make it better :Clueless: 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Elon's companies are losing money as well 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] :Clueless: 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Getting sponsored by us government 00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] the best is that ppl think he is a genius 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] but itsj ust that when u have lot of money, it comes to you easily even if u fail a lot of times 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] in fact, u can fail a lot of times 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] > According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), this isn't necessarily true. Data from the BLS shows that approximately 20% of new businesses fail during the first two years of being open, 45% during the first five years, and 65% during the first 10 years. 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] the phrase before the quote is 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] > It's often said that more than half of new businesses fail during the first year. 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] i copied it wrong xd 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] nevetherless they fail 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] a billionare just can afford failing a lot 00:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] he built a space company that's now more efficient than the NASA and a car company that completely revolutionized cars itself 00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont buy too much in the marketing 00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] the rocket is amazing, but NASA made the whole foundations of what he is making 00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] credit where is due 00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] and the cars.. 00:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk bro xd 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] he is certainly a twitter genius 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] driving the masses 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wont deny that 00:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cringe so much reading the replies 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was not one single car brand with full-driving capabilities 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] and still NASA didnt came up with the idea of letting the rockets land instead of wasting Millions in tax payers money 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_self-driving_cars 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] bruh 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea totally 00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] why do u sound like the average twitter guy 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] why do u sound like the average twitter guy? 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] ill tell you 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] stuff like the james webb is way more amazing than a rocket that can land again 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] and more sophisticated 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] real science, they aim higher 00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] because they always parrot this stuff about nasa and tax payer money 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] compare it to the army spenditure 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] its like a ant 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] they should instead get way more 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] its way more useful to society 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] we are not talking about the army, we are talking about spacex compared to nasa 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh god 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok im out 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] bringing up shit like the army, especially in the US is brainless 00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] before i say smth too out and heinrich bans me 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] my inner urge is killing me XD 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't handle a discussion? 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] i can, but i know its meaningless 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] im a practical man, this is worthless 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] you win 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] enjoy it 00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea you have your entitled opinion that NASA is the best and SpaceX is the worst or well Elon Musk is the worst 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] and he is just a twitter person that handles the mass or plays with it 00:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] `NASA is the best and SpaceX is the worst or well Elon Musk is the worst` well at least dont put words in my mouth 00:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] he did more in his 5 years as a business man than all of the car companies combined couldn't do 00:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] 00:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] SpaceX's goal to build roxkets and bring people to space, NASA is government research agency, they do different stuff 00:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] you didn't specifically say that, but it seems like you are feeling that way with your arguments 00:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats ur interpretation 00:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] in fact i did say their rockets are amazing 00:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] so its a valid for them to research reusable rockets, but NASA doesnt have that as a priority, they mainly launch one-off satelites 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then again downplayed it with "nasa built the foundation". Of course they built the foundation, they were first with all of it, after the russian i guess 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then again downplayed it with "nasa built the foundation". Of course they built the foundation, they were first with all of it, after the russians i guess 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] NASA dont build roxkets tho, they buy and use roxkets from other 'launch providers' 00:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] its ok if i **would** downplay it anyway 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] NASA dont build rockets tho, they buy and use roxkets from other 'launch providers' 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i was just giving credit where due 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] NASA dont build rockets tho, they buy and use rockets from other 'launch providers' 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] the amount of effort from nasa is way higher 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] they did build rockets 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] but now t hey buy launchers from e.g spacex cuz its cheaper 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] but truly battle tested rockets like the a saturn V 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] which brought the man to the moon 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Saturn V[a] is a retired American super heavy-lift launch vehicle developed by NASA under the Apollo program for human exploration of the Moon. The rocket was human-rated, with three stages, and powered with liquid fuel. It was flown from 1967 to 1973. It was used for nine crewed flights to the Moon, and to launch Skylab, the first American space station. 00:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wanna see SpaceX 50 years from now. 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well in fact SpaceX exists to service NASA contracts :troll: 00:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think spacex gets the contract assigned cuz they tick the most marks 00:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] but public agencies offering contracts cant choose one in a biased way 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038599310767570984/image.png 00:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] spacex is not even top 10 on the contractors 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] most costly stuff is not the rocket itself 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] well idk but probs 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 00:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Complicated stuff, but anyway the do a bif different stuff, hard to compare them 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Complicated stuff, but anyway the do a bit different stuff, hard to compare them 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] what im the most excited about is 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/ 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmC-FwibsZg 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wonder when ddnet will launch moon servers 00:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] And who will be first player 00:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] time to plug a rly awesome video now that talk about this 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] and sleep time 00:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] :BASED: 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] > NASA's budget for fiscal year (FY) 2021 is $23.3 billion. 00:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] > In 2021, the United States spent around 800.67 billion U.S. dollars on its military. 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] 00:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] Funny how people interested in killing each other more than exploring universe 00:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10 seconds in and this already feels like some evil promo thing 01:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 01:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] gotta promo for the normies 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] :LOL: it's not a competition yo 01:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] elon musk didnt "make" all that stuff, the scientists and engineers did lol 03:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] youre an elon fanboy? 03:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] "fanboy" just shows me what kinda person you are. 03:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] so yes 03:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] I like the companies he put in the world 03:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] his memes on twitter are great 03:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] does that make me a fanboy? 03:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 03:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] well im a fanboy then :YEP: 03:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Using twitter makes you a horrible person already 05:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] does this affect physics tho 07:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Publish on instagram instead of GitHub? \:) 07:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@Ravie) 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] besides teslas are pretty low quality, teslas exist since 2012 and never really changed the game 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] as always it was the chinese that started in around 2016 to heavily invest in electric cars. 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] The hype in Europe mostly came after ppl got more aware about their environment. 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] So maybe you should better say greta did more in 2 years than elon in 10 😉 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] besides teslas are pretty low quality, teslas exist since 2012 and never really changed the game 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] as always it was the chinese that started in around 2016 to heavily invest in electric cars. 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] The hype in Europe & USA mostly came after ppl got more aware about their environment. 08:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] So maybe you should better say greta did more in 2 years than elon in 10 😉 08:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] :BASED: 09:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1038713545573011486 09:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] > D. Netsu_07: Hello, do you guys why in Mac my game lag? is not for the internet. 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao greta pog 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@Not Keks) 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] greta is cool 09:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] gen z best gen 09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am 1 year older than what is considered gen z. Ez 09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] learath & ryo are gen z 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] linux image 6.0.6-2 doesnt rekognize my nvme. rip linux. you go down ;~; 09:56 <+ChillerDragon> no way ur older than learath 09:56 <+ChillerDragon> in my head learath is like 40 and you are like 14 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its actually the opposite 10:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] kek jupstar 14 10:04 <+ChillerDragon> Oh no i rly need to fix my packer code :( the negative multi byte ints rape my ass 10:04 <+ChillerDragon> Do I need to do some twos compliement whatever bit inverting? 10:06 <+ChillerDragon> ``1100 0000 0000 000`` should be -64? 10:07 <+ChillerDragon> a missed a 0 10:07 <+ChillerDragon> ``1100 0000 0000 0000`` is what i meant 10:08 <+ChillerDragon> so first 1 says extend second 1 says negative and since there is no -0 .. ah wait 10:08 <+ChillerDragon> double byte 0 makes no sense wot 10:10 <+ChillerDragon> okay wait but this should be -1 right? ``0100 0000`` 10:11 <+ChillerDragon> not extended, negative, zero = -0 doesnt exist so -1?! xd 11:31 <+ChillerDragon> Since yall ghosting me ima try the "someone is wrong on the internet" tactict xd 11:31 <+ChillerDragon> https://xkcd.com/386/ 11:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] we are just too dumb for ur questions 11:40 <+ChillerDragon> no your just too young 11:40 <+ChillerDragon> :p 11:41 <+ChillerDragon> > Janky twitter replacement 11:41 <+ChillerDragon> ** written in Makefile ** 11:42 <+ChillerDragon> yo ryo wat rabbit hole u droppin in? xd 11:43 <+ChillerDragon> ah poggers its decentralized twitter using git and written in bash i actually approve it 11:44 <+ChillerDragon> In case anyone does not follow the alpha githubber ryo and doesnt know what i talk about: https://github.com/diracdeltas/tweets 11:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] Twitter wroten in bash? :justatest: 11:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] Twitter writen in bash? :justatest: 11:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] Twitter written in bash? :justatest: 11:46 <+ChillerDragon> says "decentralized" advertises m$ github as the main server :D 11:46 <+ChillerDragon> but yea I guess would work on any git instance 11:46 <+ChillerDragon> I became big github sceptic yesterday when they banned poor @Swarfey :( 11:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why would they 11:47 <+ChillerDragon> ban him? 11:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes 11:47 <+ChillerDragon> they wont tell 11:47 <+ChillerDragon> its pretty fcked up 11:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Discord-Bridge haters 11:47 <+ChillerDragon> imagine losing all your repos you dont have cloned locally atm 11:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] If somone forked them that can help 11:48 <+ChillerDragon> yes 11:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🧐 11:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Already sent a request asking for the reason but i have also seen threads where they simply wouldn't answer 11:48 <+ChillerDragon> not all my 174 repos are forked tho xd 11:48 <+ChillerDragon> and thats only on my main acc 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I saw you have like 20 orga with repos 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I saw you have like 20 orgs with repos 11:49 <+ChillerDragon> ye 11:49 <+ChillerDragon> github is my life 11:49 <+ChillerDragon> but apparently github does random bans 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] Pretty weird solution to whatever problem you faced 11:49 <+ChillerDragon> so time to move to ryos gogs instance 11:49 <+ChillerDragon> why weird solution and why problem? 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do you use gitlab? I saw you added .gitlab folder to ddnet repo 💀 11:50 <+ChillerDragon> imo orgs are nice for organisation and brands etc 11:50 <+ChillerDragon> yes i have like 1 repo on gitlab 11:50 <+ChillerDragon> my bot client fork of chillerbot-ux to use my own gitlab runner for the pipeline to get unlimited private repo CI minutes 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean why would you create so many orga for repos you can create in your account 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean why would you create so many orgs for repos you can create in your account 11:51 <+ChillerDragon> because those things are brands :D 11:51 <+ChillerDragon> im big influencer 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] I see... 11:51 <+ChillerDragon> and it allows me to bundle repos that belong together 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] Makes sense 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] Kinda 11:51 <+ChillerDragon> omg 11:51 <+ChillerDragon> it makes perfect sense 11:52 <+ChillerDragon> look at dis all ddnet++ related repos https://github.com/DDNetPP/ 11:52 <+ChillerDragon> i can name it DDNetPP/maps instead of ChillerDragon/DDNetPP-maps also i want to remove my self and embrace community participation 11:52 <+ChillerDragon> not that i have any success with it but the idea counts 11:53 <+ChillerDragon> Or all my stick figure battle games in one spot with a nice picture https://github.com/chichilku/ 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah it makes sense in this case, but all the orgs have so many related repos? 11:53 <+ChillerDragon> nah 11:53 <+ChillerDragon> i gotta admit something 11:53 <+ChillerDragon> those were good examples 11:54 <+ChillerDragon> but you said i do weird stuff to solve some problems 11:54 <+ChillerDragon> and i actually do that too and i admit its weird 11:54 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ChillerDune 11:54 <+ChillerDragon> here i created a org just to be able to fork teeworlds again because back in the days you could only fork one repo once per account. So i wanted to keep my teeworlds fork but also wanted to fork dunes fork of teeworlds 11:54 <+ChillerDragon> but i stopped doing that :D 11:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] You still cant make more than 1 fork :justatest: 11:55 <+ChillerDragon> Then I have 3 orgs just for teeworlds demo files. But I got a lot of demos xd. Also me trying to escape github limits without paying. 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] ChillerDragon2 just to clone tee again 💀 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038768812893425764/Screenshot_2022-11-06-12-54-07-738-edit_com.github.android.jpg 11:56 <+ChillerDragon> xd 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean fork 11:56 <+ChillerDragon> always gotta bring dommy 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] ChillerStar 11:57 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1667732231.png 11:57 <+ChillerDragon> hihi 11:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Pog 11:57 <+ChillerDragon> more like JopDragon 11:58 <+ChillerDragon> yepyipyapstur 11:58 <+ChillerDragon> japjupjapster 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] hiphophipster 11:58 <+ChillerDragon> xd 11:59 <+ChillerDragon> holy shit im procrastinating hard bcs too lazy to understand packers 12:00 <+ChillerDragon> yo @Swarfey ur packers work dont ey? 12:01 <+ChillerDragon> or what was the C# guy name again 12:01 <+ChillerDragon> @Matodor sos 12:01 <+ChillerDragon> holy shit im annoying xd 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Everything in my client should work now 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Packer & unpacker do certainly 12:02 <+ChillerDragon> ok so how to pack multi byte negative numbers? 12:02 <+ChillerDragon> go send -65 as binary 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] :monkaS: cant tell you from the top of my head 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] On phone atm 12:03 <+ChillerDragon> nob 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can Check my implementation at https://npmjs.com/packages/teeworlds 12:03 <+ChillerDragon> F 12:03 <+ChillerDragon> github 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Or check heinrich's docs 12:03 <+ChillerDragon> lmao 404 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can Check my implementation at https://npmjs.com/package/teeworlds 12:04 <+ChillerDragon> im sure heinrich reported you on github for chosing bad npm package name and now u banned 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ah its /package/ not /packages/ 12:04 <+ChillerDragon> axaxaxax 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] xaxaxaxxa 12:04 <+ChillerDragon> deserved. 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 100% 12:05 <+ChillerDragon> but honestly trol 12:05 <+ChillerDragon> to name repo tw-chatonly and pck teeworlds 12:05 <+ChillerDragon> why not name package like repo? 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cuz it wasnt a chatonly client at that Point anymore 12:06 <+ChillerDragon> wowo 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Its a lib for creating teeworlds bot 12:06 <+ChillerDragon> hax 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] tEAworld sports, its in the game 12:06 <+ChillerDragon> xd 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can make it move and Check where it is through snapshots 12:06 <+ChillerDragon> wot 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Even though that's a bit more complicated to do atm 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> wat u talkin bout m8 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] The library 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> a 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> snap > chat 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> i see 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> Im curious if i get that far 12:07 <+ChillerDragon> might do a rebrand then as well 12:08 <+ChillerDragon> and name my package tEAworld cuz jopstar is my life advisor 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] What is urs named? 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Wasnt it ruby-tw or something 12:08 <+ChillerDragon> atm my repo is named teeworlds-client and i didnt publish a lib yet because im not quite sure what it should do and how to name it 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] a 12:09 <+ChillerDragon> also gotta create a org first just to trol anime pdf 12:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] what?) 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] :justatest: 12:22 <+ChillerDragon> Ok I just verified by sending a packed integer over da network using tw code and dissector by da one and only heinrich 12:22 <+ChillerDragon> -65 is sent as 0xC0 0x01 aka ``1100 0000 0000 0001`` 12:22 <+ChillerDragon> so i did understand it correctly just my test code is wrong!? 12:23 <+ChillerDragon> maybe endianness fucked me? 12:23 <+ChillerDragon> fml 12:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Git gud 12:25 <+ChillerDragon> fakof .-. 12:25 <+ChillerDragon> wait did you say git is good because the twitter thing or did you tell me to get good? 12:26 <+ChillerDragon> HEINRICH SOS HE BULLY ME 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] I did not understand why in the network part only UUID messages use bytes_be_to_int, but the rest of the code does not 12:27 <+ChillerDragon> nice 12:27 <+ChillerDragon> i didnt even get to UUID messages yet 12:28 <+ChillerDragon> ``Packer.Data()`` is sent over the network as is rite? No shinanigans? 12:28 <+ChillerDragon> unless compressed ofc 12:36 <+ChillerDragon> holy shit i think i got it 12:47 <+ChillerDragon> ok i got all. Scratch all my questions. I only got answers at this point. 13:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://t.me/+PEc8FSRwFiFiYzc0 13:14 <+ChillerDragon> gota build a filter for t.me 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm. the network part should just stuff the raw bytes of the UUID into the packet 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you mean the snapshot? 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] + 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038799536463827044/unknown.png 13:59 <+ChillerDragon> yo heinrich wdym by check the size? 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] `CPacker::Size()` I guess 14:00 <+ChillerDragon> ah ye that makes sense 14:00 <+ChillerDragon> thanks robster 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] the thing is that a UUID is bytes, and the snapshot needs integers 14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] you need a function like `bytes_be_to_int` or similar to convert it 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] But why is BigEndian being used? is not used in other parts of the code 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] it seemed natural to me 14:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] you would have used little-endian instead? 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 almost gotcha 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038802624117493780/image.png 14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't know, I didn't get into that subject. Does the network send a set of bytes taking into account the order of bytes on the sending machine? 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] speedrun 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038802831148331069/image.png 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] at least in the game protocol at the level of sending data I have not seen this 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] If so, why convert the UUID to an array of big endian byte order? 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] the network's sending code should not (and does not) rely on the host byte order 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] but how does the client part recognize the byte order? 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] basically, to convert bytes to an integer, you need to decide whether you want to do it as a big-endian or a litle-endian integer 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] byte order of what? the network protocol has no real byte order. it uses the variable int encoding that ChillerDragon just explored 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean, if the server is big endian and the receiving side is little endian, how does the process work in this case? 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] the server encodes its integers using the variable int encoding 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] e.g. 1 is converted to the byte 0x01 on the network 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] or 65 is converted to the bytes 0x81 0x01 (if I got it correctly) 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] this does not vary with the byte order of the host 14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] no no no, I don't mean compressed int, I mean lower level = net_udp_send->sendto 14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] `net_udp_send` takes bytes and sends bytes 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it gets the bytes `0x00 0x20 0x40 0x12`, it'll send exactly these bytes over the network 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] in this order 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] дак вот, если сервер имеет big endian, а принимающая сторона - little endian, как в этом случае работает процесс? 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1038804532395773983 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] So, if the server has a big endian and the receiving side has a little endian, how does the process work in this case? 14:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] big and little endian don't have any influence on byte array 14:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] big and little endian don't have any influence on byte arrays 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] the correct answer to the question is: it has no influence at all. but it seems there's a misunderstanding that led to asking that question 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] if a big endian computer has a byte array with the bytes 0x12 0x23 0x34 0x45 0x67, it looks like 0x12 0x23 0x34 0x45 0x67 in memory 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] if a little endian computer has a byte array with the bytes 0x12 0x23 0x34 0x45 0x67, it looks like 0x12 0x23 0x34 0x45 0x67 in memory 14:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] no difference at all 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] the difference is in their native representation of an integer, but that doesn't really matter, you should simply not inspect it 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] but for completeness: 14:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] on a litte-endian computer, the number 513 is represented as 0x01 0x02 0x00 0x00 14:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] on a litte-endian computer, the 32-bit number 513 is represented as 0x01 0x02 0x00 0x00 14:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] on a big-endian computer, the 32-bit number 513 is represented as 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x01 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it doesn't have influence on byte arrays. only on native representation of integers 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] ChillerDragon: the size check needs to be an `ASSERT_EQ` not an `EXPECT_EQ` 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] so that it aborts the test if it doesn't match 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you mean machine word? 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] otherwise you'll continue to the contents check which might read out of bounds 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] or integers 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] not only machine words, machine integers I guess 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Matodor when mlife? 14:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] for example your computer stores 64-bit, 32-bit, 16-bit integers as little-endian 14:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] 8-bit integers can't have a byte order, they only consist of a single byte 14:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay @heinrich5991 thx, I think I've figured it out now.) ❤️ 16:47 <+ChillerDragon> What happens if the server sends a 5 or more byte packed integer? Does the client crash? 16:48 <+ChillerDragon> lmao i love it never seen that ``} while(false);`` thats a cool goto replacement 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ? 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] that looks like a simple scope 16:49 <+ChillerDragon> ? my first or second msg= 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] 2nd 16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1st = why should it 16:50 <+ChillerDragon> because c++ ints are max 4 bytes 16:50 <+ChillerDragon> 2nd https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds/blob/6b7fa9308e59ac8110f2aa58a03bdd50995c0266/src/engine/shared/compression.cpp#L57 16:50 <+ChillerDragon> here while(false) is used to allow breaking to the end 16:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah thats what u mean 😄 16:51 <+ChillerDragon> ill add this to my toolbox i would have used goto in that case 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] u can also do it with a lambda 16:52 <+ChillerDragon> or with ``system()`` 16:52 <+ChillerDragon> xd 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] or with std::thread 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] or with std::abort 16:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] or with rust 16:52 <+ChillerDragon> or with for loops? xd 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] with unsafe rust 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] u can also call that code on your GPU 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] rust has safe goto-like jumps 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] within the same function 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] using block labels 16:53 <+ChillerDragon> blocker f3 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/flow_control/loop/nested.html 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] ```rust 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] fn main() { 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 'outer: loop { 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] println!("Entered the outer loop"); 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 'inner: loop { 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] println!("Entered the inner loop"); 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] // This would break only the inner loop 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] //break; 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] // This breaks the outer loop 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] break 'outer; 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] } 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] println!("This point will never be reached"); 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] } 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] println!("Exited the outer loop"); 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] }``` 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] this breaks the outer loop 16:54 <+ChillerDragon> aaaaaaaaaaa we can click links -.- 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it will still continue the inner 16:54 <+ChillerDragon> spamma 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] nah xd 16:54 <+ChillerDragon> irc moment 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] but nice feature 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038844048955408464/image.png 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] this was addewd in 1.65 too 16:55 <+ChillerDragon> addewd UwU 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] i really like it even if u dont use it very often probs 16:55 <+ChillerDragon> rust? 16:55 <+ChillerDragon> yeah 16:55 <+ChillerDragon> i dont use that very often xd 16:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] use it more often 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] trollerdragon 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] pun intended 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] kekw 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] use basic, then u have to use goto 16:56 <+ChillerDragon> BATCH masterrace 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] program bash in basic 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] learn to write 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] languages are bloat 16:56 <+ChillerDragon> i packer working pog 16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] write the hex instructions directly 16:57 <+ChillerDragon> cringe hex 16:57 <+ChillerDragon> binary op 16:57 <+ChillerDragon> u just slow typer 16:57 <+ChillerDragon> i only need to keys on my keyboard 16:57 <+ChillerDragon> heck i can write code with my mouse 16:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] make a programming language that changes byte-endianess & bit-endianess after every new variable 16:58 <+ChillerDragon> yikes 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] with 2 hex u can represent 1 byte 16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats why its poggers 16:58 <+ChillerDragon> with 8 bits you can only use 2 characters thats why its poggers 16:58 <+ChillerDragon> 16 chars is bloat 16:58 <+ChillerDragon> change my mind 16:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] wat 16:59 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:06 <+ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/48d82e9bfdb503d5c3d7059f59049b6b72d649b0/src/engine/client/client.cpp#L522 17:06 <+ChillerDragon> whats the 1 being sent with rcon auth? 17:07 <+ChillerDragon> And whats the magic w username anyways? How compatible is it with vanilla? 17:07 <+ChillerDragon> Is sending a empty name skipped by vanilla anyways because ``Unpacker.GetString(CUnpacker::SANITIZE_CC)`` eats the leading nullbyte? 17:28 <+ChillerDragon> Meh no i seem to get a wrong password if i do that :( 17:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd fr 17:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] char on 8 bits is bloated af 17:40 <+ChillerDragon> tru short masterrace 17:40 <+ChillerDragon> wait wat 17:40 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] uh 17:40 <+ChillerDragon> there is nothing smaller than char huh? 17:40 <+ChillerDragon> that indeed is bloat 17:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] y 17:41 <+ChillerDragon> what about bools? 17:41 <+ChillerDragon> idk what a bool is tbh 17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] bool are encoded on 8 bits too 17:41 <+ChillerDragon> BLOAT 17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] y bloat af 17:41 <+ChillerDragon> i guess thats why bit flags are a thing 17:41 <+ChillerDragon> cuz bloat datatypes 17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] y 17:42 <+ChillerDragon> ryo go buil unbloated programming lang w 1 bit bools 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] recently ive made an emulator for a 12 bits langage 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] conclusion: 12 bits is bloated too 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] only 1 bits bool is legit 17:44 <+ChillerDragon> Im not sure if its nice that my method allows different data types as parameter xd 17:45 <+ChillerDragon> it can do ``rcon_auth('', '123')`` as in username, password 17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] x) it depends 17:45 <+ChillerDragon> and ``rcon_auth(password: '123')`` which is only one hash with the optional key :name and the required key :password xd 17:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] its rust ? 17:46 <+ChillerDragon> nah ruby 17:46 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] owo 17:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] i never used ruby 17:46 <+ChillerDragon> its not typed so im lost 17:46 <+ChillerDragon> doesnt matter 17:47 <+ChillerDragon> read it like python 17:47 <+ChillerDragon> and hash as dictonary i guess 17:47 <+ChillerDragon> its probably really bad 17:47 <+ChillerDragon> whatever 17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] does ruby support method overloading ? 17:48 <+ChillerDragon> idk 17:48 <+ChillerDragon> why tho? 17:48 <+ChillerDragon> i technically have it implemented im just not sure if its bad or rly bad to do it 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> if there are no types overloading is a bit pointless it only boils down to amount of parameters 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> one could also use default parameters them 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> i probably read some books on how to design good code and shit 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> should^ 17:49 <+ChillerDragon> wont^ 17:50 <+ChillerDragon> so unless someone stops me now and here ill go with it 17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think that in itself it is not very serious but being able to call the function with different arguments takes away from the clarity of the code 17:50 <+ChillerDragon> yes clarity gone 17:50 <+ChillerDragon> ye fuck i should pick whatever is better xd 17:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] x) 17:51 <+ChillerDragon> its so weird vanilla calls ``RconAuth("", pass);`` everytime xd 17:51 <+ChillerDragon> i kinda did not want to ship that as n api 17:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] what, what uppercase at the beginning ? they dont apply cameCase ? 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] what, why uppercase at the beginning ? they dont apply cameCase ? 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> no teeworlds uses UpperCamel case for all methods!? 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> since always 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] its cringe no ? 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> no 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> ``CClient::RconAuth(const char *pName, const char *pPassword)`` 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean, i feel like you are calling a class constructor 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> watafak 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> do u even code tw? 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 17:52 <+ChillerDragon> xd 17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] )) 17:53 <+ChillerDragon> never doubt holy tw coding style 17:53 <+ChillerDragon> all hail magnus 17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] in c++ im used to apply uppercase only for interface or class name 17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] did u ever use veracrypt ? 17:54 <+ChillerDragon> i feel like every code base has a different c++ style 17:54 <+ChillerDragon> nah 17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz i wanted to use something else than LUKS based programs 17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i feel like there are not so many alternative on linux 17:55 <+ChillerDragon> then its time to roll your own crypto as heinrich would say 17:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 17:56 <+ChillerDragon> lawyer jopstar? I can make up quotes without ending in jail ye? 17:56 <+ChillerDragon> "roll your own crypto whenever possible" - heinrich5991 17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] x), ill report it 17:57 <+ChillerDragon> faaak 17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🙂 17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] its fine i control justice 17:57 <+ChillerDragon> pog 17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw, youre talking throught IRC right ? 17:57 <+ChillerDragon> yes 17:58 <+ChillerDragon> the only acceptable chat protocol together with tw chat 17:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] matrix is hipster 17:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] but irc ist hipsterer 17:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] do you use proxy or something ? 17:58 <+ChillerDragon> matrix is for soydevs 17:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Modern PC memory modules transfer 64 bits (8 bytes) at a time, in a burst of eight transfers, so one command triggers a read or write of a full cache line from memory. (DDR1/2/3/4 SDRAM burst transfer size is configurable up to 64B; CPUs will select the burst transfer size to match their cache line size, but 64B is common) 17:58 <+ChillerDragon> i run a irc client on my vps 17:58 <+ChillerDragon> as bouncer 17:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh interesting 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz discord is bloat 17:59 <+ChillerDragon> cuz discord is tos 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] y 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want to use irc too but i dont want to reveal my ip adress 17:59 <+ChillerDragon> why not 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] @b0th hello :troll: 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] :Pepega: 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] hola 18:00 <+ChillerDragon> ip is not that confidental usually 18:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] y ik 18:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] u dont own ur ip 18:00 <+bridge> [ddnet]