03:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> What is the maximum packet size for a client to have no problems with a DDNet based server?
04:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/8d7442e328282bce902aa0c9667da5529a7b392e/src/engine/shared/network.h#L58
04:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what are you doing? 🙂
04:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> is aarch64 not supported? do you mean that you want to have binaries on ddnet.org?
04:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> I want to limit with my own firewall the pps/bps per IP and the maximum packet length
04:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> If it is higher, the IP will be blocked for a while
04:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> the link I sent above gave the answer btw. 1400 bytes of UDP payload
04:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> Ty thx
07:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> If you try to avoid ddos attacks those are usually spoofed ips with proper teeworlds packets so that wouldn’t be filtered \:(
07:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> What about dummy’s multiple clients. Or multiple users sharing the same ip?
07:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> (@Yek)
08:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 1400 is close to the MTU
08:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dota-2-geforce-rtx-nvidia-reflex-support-available-now/
09:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Is thisntrue
09:36 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1667637271.png
09:36 <+ChillerDragon> maffs nerd
09:37 <+ChillerDragon> also congrats on being top1 active githubber i follow ryo! You make up 90% if my feed while being only 1 of my 26 followed dudes
09:37 <+ChillerDragon> of
09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> haha
13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gawahig> https://t.me/+PEc8FSRwFiFiYzc0
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ```
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> if(s_SelectionPopupContext.m_Entries.size() == 1)
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> {
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>     s_SelectionPopupContext.m_pSelection = &*s_SelectionPopupContext.m_Entries.begin();
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> }
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ```
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> 
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Does this result in undefined behaviour? `m_Entries` is a `std::set<std::string>`. I'm want to get a pointer to the first element. As you can see I ensure that there is exactly one element in the set and the set will not be modified in the meantime, so taking a pointer should be fine. But if I dereference the iterator with `*`, doesn't this create a temporary copy of the entry that I would then take the address of with `&`? In that case the 
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> 
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> I could also do the following, which should definitely work, as it uses a reference to the string, albeit it looks a bit odd:
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> 
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ```
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> if(s_SelectionPopupContext.m_Entries.size() == 1)
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> {
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>     for(const auto &Entry : s_SelectionPopupContext.m_Entries)
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>     {
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>         s_SelectionPopupContext.m_pSelection = &Entry;
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>     }
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> }
13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ```
14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> dereferncing doesn't automatically create a copy. You just have to be carefuly to only dereference valid pointers, not null pointers for example
14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> the first version looks fine to me, just copies it into the new target object
14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I think the *& might even just get removed during the first optimization pass
14:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> you mean &*
14:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> That too, but even from a standard perspective seems fine
14:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ok, thanks
14:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Oh actually maybe not now that I think about it. The * is probably overloaded here
14:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Anyway, first one is indeed sane
14:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> You can try adding some copy constructors that print something when the object is copied to verify that copy is only done when expected
14:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Or you could delete the copy constructor if you dont use it
14:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> The entries are `std::string`, so can I even do that?
14:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Assigning to a reference is a good example where the object is definitely not copied
14:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Then nope 😄
14:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> if m_pSelection is a `std::string&`
14:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> ok, then set gdb breakpoints on them 😄
14:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> but anyway, should be fine
14:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> It's a `std::string *`, because I also need it to be a `nullptr` when it's empty
14:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> wouldnt ub sanitizer show its ub or smth?
14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> ub sanitizer doesn't detect all ub
14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ah too bad
14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :BASED:
14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> the standard library is full of undefined behavior btw
14:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> rly?
14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> well and lot of ppl rely on that right
14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> thats why the std cant be updated
14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Now that I think about it a bit. Why do you think the * will create a copy anyway?
14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> It'll just be a normal lvalue
14:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Heard it from here a while ago I think: https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2019/p1705r1.html#stdLibraryUB
14:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> I thought the copy is already created when dereferencing. I'm not really familar with different value types, I'm coming from a Java world
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Searching through the standard 😄
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038440643191640195/screenshot-20221105141205.png
14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Oh, I see. Yeah I guess Java does do that
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I think this is even intended, no? The point is to allow implementations to optimize agressively iirc
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Yes, of course
14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> fewer branches
14:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> and more security issues
14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> Game mode does not allow dummy
15:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> huh? https://github.com/swarfey/tw-chatonly is gone
15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> kekw
15:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038456618838392863/image.png
15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> @deen how is it fixed ?
15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> Sad I will still try xdp to see if with specific filters it does something against an attack
15:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Yek> 😿
15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> By removing the wrongly added integration test files from updater json: https://update.ddnet.org/update.json
15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> ah okay 🙂
15:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> log doesn't say which error triggered the "error updating" UI
15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> the 404s triggered it
15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> old file missing "error" is ignored
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> lol even the username
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> yeah
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> I guess since no one reported it before you, and this was already in 16.3, only few people are still using the ingame updater
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @Swarfey hi ^
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> maybe he wanted to disappear
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :justatest:
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> updating manually, i always end up overwritting some settings file
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Chairn> like settings_ddnet.cfg and storage.cfg
15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> most people use steam updater
15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i use portage
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> the gentoo guru  maintainer is pretty fast btw
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> on the same day
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i say this but its still 16.4 f
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/guru
15:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> time to become the maintainer
15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> <https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/guru/blob/ac4cc53c56babcbac2d3f08205e65a185f99b460/metadata/md5-cache/games-action/ddnet-16.5>
15:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> what its here
15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> since its github anyone can make a pr
15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> so no official maintainer
15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> thats nice i guess
15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> "Big Pineapple" updated to 16.5 kek
15:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> <https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/guru/blob/master/games-action/ddnet/ddnet-16.5.ebuild>
15:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @Ryozuki You could also try submitting it for official repo: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Submitting_ebuilds
15:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Example submission 😉 https://bugs.gentoo.org/206287
16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> Hello 👋
16:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Hi aral.sama
16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> How are you?
16:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> (@deen)
16:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> How are you deen?
16:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> fine, you?
16:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> Great
16:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> I'm fine 👍
16:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> (@deen)
16:10 <+ChillerDragon> ?xd
16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> Every one here is programmer?
16:14 <+ChillerDragon> No im pro gamer
16:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> Oh ...
16:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> Good
16:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> (<@749222324980416602_=5bquakenet=5d=20=43hiller=44ragon>)
16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> I'm not programmer.
16:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> But i think you are
16:17 <+ChillerDragon> no proof
16:18 <+ChillerDragon> @Ryozuki wanna game together on the among-sus server? https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/guru/tree/master/games-server/among-sus
16:20 <+ChillerDragon> So guru is the aur of gentoo?
16:21 <+ChillerDragon> gentoo user repository user?
16:22 <+ChillerDragon> maybe gentoo user repository unoffical?
16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> .... how old are you?
16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> (<@749222324980416602_=5bquakenet=5d=20=43hiller=44ragon>)
16:22 <+ChillerDragon> double digits already
16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> 🫠
16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> (<@749222324980416602_=5bquakenet=5d=20=43hiller=44ragon>)
16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> I'm not goon know English language
16:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> So I need a few for Ripley you pm
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <aral.sama> 😂😂 you understand what I said?
16:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Anyone still have the 16.1 debugging symbols for #5463?
16:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5463
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks https://developer.nvidia.com/performance-rendering-tools/reflex
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> are they gone?
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> or was it a nightly
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> They were deleted because they took up lots of space
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> lol
16:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @deen lets only delete nightly symbols i guess ^
16:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> our releases dont happen too often
16:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Reporter said version 16.1
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038477304000692416/DDNet-16.1-win64-steam-symbols.tar.xz
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> jupstar the archiver
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> it been in my download dir xD
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i've 2 more for 16.1 XD
16:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Nice
16:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> real question is, why do we need this?
16:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> why isnt lowest latency the default?
16:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> windows problems
16:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but its an sdk
16:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so i assume its for profiling? 😄
16:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
16:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> idk
16:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038478538774433973/image.png
16:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks dota has this boost mode
16:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Also the 32 bit one?
16:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> no 😄
16:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but his crash report should be 64bit
16:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> Then it's probably not exactly version 16.1, at least I can't find any symbols for those addresses
16:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> did you use the old parse?
16:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> or is our current compatible
16:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> I'm just using gdb and `info symbol 0x...`
16:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> The current one should also work but it doesn't entirely work on windows
16:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> The address at the end should also be correct, if you calculate AddrPC - base offset it equals the last number
16:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
16:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> addr2line -e DDNet.exe 000000000051576F                                                                                        
16:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/editor/layer_tiles.cpp:54
16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> what's the one after that?
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> that one is in ```CTile CLayerTiles::GetTile(int x, int y)
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> {
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3>     return m_pTiles[y * m_Width + x];
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> }
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> ```
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> addr2line -e DDNet.exe 00000000005193DB                                                                                        
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/editor/layer_tiles.cpp:441
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> addr2line -e DDNet.exe 00000000005193DB                                                                                        
16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/editor/layer_tiles.cpp:441
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>  addr2line -e DDNet.exe 000000000050B3B5                                                                                        
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/editor/editor.cpp:2632
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
16:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
17:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 @Not Keks https://www.edn.com/tsmc-approaching-1-nm-with-2d-materials-breakthrough/
17:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> lol
17:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> > TSMC approaching 1 nm with 2D materials breakthrough
17:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> > Researchers at MIT, NTU, and TSMC have discovered that 2D materials combined with semi-metallic bismuth (Bi) achieve extremely low resistance, overcoming the challenge of realizing 1-nm chips. Source: National University of Taiwan
17:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> how do they call it after 1nm
17:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> do they start to count the atoms? xD
17:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
17:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> .2 nanometers per atom
17:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u need at least 3 i think
17:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> for a logic gate
17:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Well whenever we talk about these we remember that those measures really dont mean what they used to mean when we were at 65nm 😄
17:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> well even if the transistor itself is the only part at 1nm its still probs very efficient
17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but in the article they seem to use a different material
17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling
17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> "Tunneling occurs with barriers of thickness around 1–3 nm and smaller."
17:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> "Quantum tunneling limits the minimum size of devices used in microelectronics because electrons tunnel readily through insulating layers and transistors that are thinner than about 1 nm."
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i want a picture like this:
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bc6b9a278b5e4d2f36a303415072bac8-lq
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> for every process advancement 😄
17:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Looks like trade secrets to me
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Swarfey> Ty for telling, i have no idea why its gone
17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Swarfey> I didnt even get any mail
17:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> I have backups, still needed?
17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> No, @Not Keks also had a relevant one and a confirmed that the issue was already fixed
17:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Robyt3> No, @Not Keks also had a relevant one and I confirmed that the issue was already fixed
18:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> ok, great.
18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks real
18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1038502700800819290/RDT_20221105_1818242586511559544857242.jpg
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> lel
18:44 <+ChillerDragon> how is da tw srv package called in apt?
18:45 <+ChillerDragon> teeworlds-server 
18:45 <+ChillerDragon> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=teeworlds&searchon=names
18:55 <+ChillerDragon> omagawd did ubuntu name the binary teeworlds-server? not teeworlds_srv?
19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ddnet-server is also called like this
19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
19:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> probs same maintainer xd
19:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so when i press CTRL + c and then CTRL + v, and rename DDNet to teeworlds. Can i call it a day?
19:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> perfect
19:12 <+ChillerDragon> i ended up doing a bunch of if statements checking what is installed on the system
19:13 <+ChillerDragon> renaming ddnet to teeworlds would break my test cuz i dont support ddnet
19:13 <+ChillerDragon> YET
19:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> r u working on diamond again?
19:14 <+ChillerDragon> da
19:14 <+ChillerDragon> i think this is the most useful project i have written in my whole life xd
19:14 <+ChillerDragon> ok its written in ruby... but still :D
19:15 <+ChillerDragon> imo ruby is python without annoying tabs. change my mind.
19:16 <+ChillerDragon> Its all practice to properly understand the protcol and port ddnet to 0.7!
19:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> the best thing about python is uninstalling it, so i agree
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> xd
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> wowow py hater
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> whats ur script lang of choice then? typescript?
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> lua?
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> bash pog?
19:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> lua is second worst
19:18 <+ChillerDragon> xd
19:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> bash is legendary yes
19:19 <+ChillerDragon> daaa!
19:24 <+ChillerDragon> Yo soydev jopstar thanks for vscode config! but when vimrc for ddnet? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6012
19:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u have to ask our neofetch, neovim, neorust, neoworld expert ryozoozki
19:24 <+ChillerDragon> tru
19:24 <+ChillerDragon> i actually was thinking about switching to neovim
19:25 <+ChillerDragon> since i wrote all da ruby code in vim and my config is kinda vanilla
19:26 <+ChillerDragon> do u even know the soydev meme?
19:26 <+ChillerDragon> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soydev
19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> except for macbook, this is me xD
19:27 <+ChillerDragon> xxxxxxxxxxxD
19:27 <+ChillerDragon> > by ArchUser1001 June 2, 2020
19:27 <+ChillerDragon> omg just noticed xd
19:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ok the second deifintion sounds completly different
19:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> that doesnt suit me so well anymore
19:28 <+ChillerDragon> oh wow there is more
19:28 <+ChillerDragon> lemme read
19:28 <+ChillerDragon> ye those soys big on js and electron
19:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> i bet he uses rust too 💀
22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Just don't care about what IDE/language you use and get things done. I've seen people be productive with anything from LFS+nano on a 10" netbook to full-blown Visual Studio + Windows on a 24 core workstation
22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> use notepad++ without file search
22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> good training
23:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> write code on paper and assume it wouldn't compile anyway so you're not missing out