00:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Meekrioz> i just gave up with aggregations, i can't wrap my head around coding them. Maybe i'm too tired but it really is frustrating rn..
03:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> just curious, if you guys were to change the ui in any way, which aspects would you want to change?
03:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <louis> change most of the querying chat commands to pop up boxes with better gfx
06:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> https://youtu.be/sNteZzrMskQ?t=23 @Ryozuki lmao tf is that pov
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> another concept i JUST thought of:
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> why not modernize the killfeed to include more information? Rather it be icons for how someone is killed, or even misc. things, like stealing someone else's kill, or winning a race?
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> this could also crunch down a few elements, like if you restart multiple times or if you score a wrong goal in FNG, so the feed isnt too cluttered?
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1033983435745808385/unknown.png
08:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1033983436228141106/unknown.png
08:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> given some icons might not be needed, this is just a concept doodle
10:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1034026560178630666/unknown.png
10:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> today will be a special unix time
11:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Matodor> https://tenor.com/view/666-hells-cat-deceiver-father-of-lies-gif-13831823
11:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Matodor> https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-dancing-666-devil-gif-9166963
11:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> https://tenor.com/view/pog-gif-18640695
12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> @Ryozuki I found some old stickers 😀
12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1034045415366082640/IMG_7731.jpg
12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Ohh
12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :poggers2:
16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> seems to be tomorrow?
16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ```
16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> $ date -d @1666666666 --iso-8601=seconds
16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> 2022-10-25T04:57:46+02:00
16:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ```
16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> I see
16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> @Learath2 what do you think about this? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5949#pullrequestreview-1148360008
16:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> > (Additionally, we could probably add a flag to the `NETADDR` struct so we can pass it through that as well. @Learath2, what would you think about that?)
16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> NETADDRs having a 7 flag?
16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> i.e. adding something like `NETTYPE_TW07` to the `NETADDR` struct, since connecting to an tw 0.6 and tw 0.7 server asks the low-level network stuff to do something different
16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> like the websocket flag
16:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I honestly don't like the netaddrs we have now. They are just a weird abstraction
16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what's wrong with them?
16:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> No wait. It's the netsockets I don't like. Addrs are fine
16:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I think that level might be too low to be aware of protocol details though, so is a flag there really appropriate?
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Atleast in my eyes system.h is supposed to not be very aware of any details of teeworlds
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> yea. maybe just reserve some space there and let the higher levels stuff it in? ^^
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ideally, using a different type for the engine etc. would be better
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Or maybe higher level code should wrap it?
16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> but I don't fancy rewriting all the ddnet code to use another type
16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ah, maybe we could use `NETADDR` for the high level and a new type for the low-level code
16:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Or that. NETADDR_in
16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> in stands for 'internet', I think ^^
16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Mine is for internal 😄
16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what don't you like about our `NETSOCKET`s btw?
16:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Though, I wonder how much of the high level code even uses NETADDRs
16:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> The way they wrap multiple sockets in one just feels like too thick of an abstraction
16:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Like a hack to add ipv6 without thinking too much about it
16:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> the OSs even support wrapping IPv4 and IPv6 sockets into one, I think
16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> `IPV6_V6ONLY`
16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> we just disable it
16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> But that's not really what we do. We open two or more sockets per netsocket
16:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> perhaps we should use that instead of using two sockets for IPv4 and IPv6
16:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Oh btw you broke some api promises when you made netsockets or netaddrs allocated. Idk which one
16:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> netsockets
16:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I think someone submitted a fix(?)
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Documentation promises return of NETSOCKET_INVALID. But we don't do that. It fails silently, it didnt break because we never checked
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
16:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ah, isn't that a nice part of our abstraction btw? using recvmmsg automatically
16:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> That is a good part of the thick abstraction yeah
17:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> What's better, logic world or virtual circuit board?
17:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Logic world has a worse name
17:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Vcb is unreadable
17:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <pilonpl> Really hard choice
17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> you can try logisim
17:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> we used that in school
17:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ah, apparently your stuff is more of a game
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Vcb
17:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @heinrich5991 digital is better
17:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Logisim is unmaintained
17:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> link?
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Github digital
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Im on mobile sry
17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> turkey admin
17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/hneemann/Digital
17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> probably
17:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> @heinrich5991 Why are there no turkish admins?
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I don't know why there aren't any turkish moderators
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> Is laser instant? like when you shoot, it immediately appear in full length + bounce? My antiping on ictf feels wrong, i noticed i killed guy with wallshot when shot straight above, maybe old versions had some laser spread speed?
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> i think turkish admins are needed
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> bounce is delayed
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I believe moderators moderate beyond their usual home server. having a moderator that speaks turkish would be useful though, I guess
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> okay :feelsbadman:
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> (bounce was always delayed)
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> k
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> probably just skill issue
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> @heinrich5991 So who is the founder?
17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> i believe founder of ddnet is @deen
17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Anime.pdf> not teeworlds or smth
17:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I believe moderator recruitment happens in the forums
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> where to get admin
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> @heinrich5991 do you know eujax
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> no, have only read their name a couple of tmies
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> no, have only read their name a couple of times
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ah, eujax is a turkish moderator
17:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> I think 2 or 3 Turkish admins should be taken.
18:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Twytt> @everyone join now https://discord.gg/e-sexies
18:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <noby> why are you advocating for more admins when youre one of the players who just gets banned on sight everytime :lol:
18:14 <+ChillerDragon> Oof is there a way to shrink a array on the stack? -.-
18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> why
18:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> just save the size of the array in a second var
18:14 <+ChillerDragon> yea thats probably the wrong approach -.-
18:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> why tho xD
18:15 <+ChillerDragon> but i get user input and i then compress it using huffman tw compress algo magic
18:15 <+ChillerDragon> and then i cast it to some ruby object
18:15 <+ChillerDragon> and it takes the size of my buffer on the stack
18:15 <+ChillerDragon> it wont eat my heap allocated memory
18:16 <+ChillerDragon> wait gimme a minute ill spin up da electron to paste code xd
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> no other way to give it an object?
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> with size
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> idk how to read docs
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> iv been starring at it for ages
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> *staring
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> ```C
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> Object huff_compress(const char * pInput, int Size)
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> {
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     CHuffman Huffman;
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     Huffman.Init();
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     unsigned char aOutput[10];
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     Huffman.Compress(pInput, Size, aOutput, sizeof(aOutput));
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     Array out(aOutput);
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon>     return out;
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> }
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> 
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> ```
18:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> so this works
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> since when are you using ruby?
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> but i always get back a array of size 10 in ruby since my buffer is fixed 10
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> is there documentation for this `Array` class?
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> i built a tw client in ruby yesterday xd
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> https://jasonroelofs.com/rice/4.x/tutorial.html
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> didnt find any
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> i found the array class in the source code xd
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> https://github.com/jasonroelofs/rice/blob/master/test/test_Array.cpp
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> they use vectors
18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> maybe i should push my unsigned char\* into a vector
18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> but if i could just trim my stack size that would also work but if there isnt any way i guess vectors it is
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> Object huff_compress(const char * pInput, int Size)
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> {
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     CHuffman Huffman;
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     Huffman.Init();
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     std::array<unsigned char, 10> aOutput;
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     Huffman.Compress(pInput, Size, aOutput, sizeof(aOutput));
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     Array out(aOutput.begin(), aOutput.end());
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪>     return out;
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> }
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ```
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> or do it with ptrs if it allows it
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/jasonroelofs/rice/blob/4bae186d95056ceafcc801fbe548aa4acbe04d66/rice/Array.hpp#L43-L44
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what @Not Keks says
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> oh but aOutput.data() in compress and aOutput.size()
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ok sizeof might work
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but nicer
18:20 <+ChillerDragon> so instead of hardcoding 10 i can use Size?
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> no
18:20 <+ChillerDragon> :(
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> its still fixed size
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> you can use the start pointer and the end pointer
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ChillerDragon
18:20 <+ChillerDragon> but then it will always be 10
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u can do .begin() and .begin() + 5
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> for example
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> + 5 =  any value u want
18:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> `Array out(aOutput, aOutput + 10);`
18:21 <+ChillerDragon> wouldnt that be out of bounds then?
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> you don't even need `std::array`, if I read the source code correctly
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> one-past end is allowed
18:21 <+ChillerDragon> my code as of now is compiling and working fine
18:21 <+ChillerDragon> but i always get back an array of size 10
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> yes
18:21 <+ChillerDragon> i want to get back an array of size ``Size``
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> then dont pass +10 XD
18:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but + Size
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> `Array out(aOutput, aOutput + Size);`
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> but if it only allocates an array of 10 how does that work?
18:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> what @Not Keks says
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> a
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> Ouuuu now i get it
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> so i omit the vector
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> and just pass in the size
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> ah hot thnks 
18:22 <+ChillerDragon> omot the array*
18:23 <+ChillerDragon> works wonderful thanks a lot <3
18:24 <+ChillerDragon> now its very unrubyish passing in a string and its size instead of an byte array but too lazy to figure argument data types out xd
18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i find native interfaces suck anyway, same for JNI 😄
18:25 <+ChillerDragon> still better than porting huffman.cpp to ruby :D 
18:25 <+ChillerDragon> and cooler/faster
18:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> just use c as a protocol
18:25 <+ChillerDragon> bbbut
18:25 <+ChillerDragon> yea i probably could xd
18:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> no idc just do what u want
18:26 <+ChillerDragon> you can use c protocol even for c++ right? actually im kinda confused what api im even using at this point xd
18:26 <+ChillerDragon> i went as c++ as i could :D
18:27 <+ChillerDragon> so who wants to add huffman tests to ddnet codebase?
18:27 <+ChillerDragon> so i can check if it works
18:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> just use rust like all cool kinds
18:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> cancel ruby
18:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> cancer luby
18:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> cancel cancer
18:36 <+ChillerDragon> works flawless
18:36 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1666629395.png
18:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> hello V xd
18:37 <+ChillerDragon> -.-
18:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> if u want a challenge use the top20 most used programming languages in your project and all work together
18:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <gerdoe> world is V confirmed
18:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Soh> @noby that's not me
23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <noby> yes so the person whos been banned hundreds of times with the name Soh isnt you
23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] <noby> of course