00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Nice cheatsheet
00:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 when will c++ have ADT
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> they are the future of language design
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> you know product types, sum types
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> ADT? C++ already has plenty ADTs no?
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_data_type
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i dont see rust enums in c++
00:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Ah algebraics. I thought abtract data type
00:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Abstract*
00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Values of algebraic types are analyzed with pattern matching, which identifies a value by its constructor or field names and extracts the data it contains.
00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 
00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Algebraic data types were introduced in Hope, a small functional programming language developed in the 1970s at the University of Edinburgh.[2]
00:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> you know that something funny
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> rust doesnt rly implement rly novel stuff
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but stuff that can be called new comparing to usual languages
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Hm, not even sure what these are. Smells too functional to me
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> sum types are
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> rust enums
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Can’t you so something alike this with operator overloading in c++?
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> product types
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> are tuples
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> but the key to make use of adts is this
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> > Values of algebraic types are analyzed with pattern matching, which identifies a value by its constructor or field names and extracts the data it contains.
00:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> otherwise why have them at all
00:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> without pattern matching, which c++ lacks they are useless
00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 a language can take functional features while still be imperative
00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> which rust does a lot
00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> jsut take the best of both worlds
00:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Hm, I don’t quite get this definition you gave. I’ll take a look at the wikipedia one later
00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> 2 bad i cant find a reddit comment i saw
00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it described them rly well
00:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Clearly unions/variants and tuples aren’t what you want, so I must be missing some detail
00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_type
00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yeah it is what i want
00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> coupled with first class language support
00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> for pattern matching
00:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_union
00:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Pattern matching is basically just what rust “match” stmt’s are?
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yeah altho u can do if let too
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> basically check std::option
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it wont always be as useful as rust Option
00:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> due to lack of proper pattern matching
00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> https://youtu.be/ojZbFIQSdl8 wikipedia article was linking to this talk, with the guy talking about ADTs at 14:32. Maybe interesting
00:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ill check it out someday xd
00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Learath2 i always prefer blog posts tho
00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> cuz i can read those at work
00:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
00:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Understandable
00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Have a nice day*
00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> sry i had to say it
00:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I expected nothing less of you
00:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :greenthing:
06:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> Lol yes this is very good and helps to understand and choose
09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33281106
09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> another good day for rust
09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-37454
09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-37454
09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> > The Keccak XKCP SHA-3 reference implementation before fdc6fef has an integer overflow and resultant buffer overflow that allows attackers to execute arbitrary code or eliminate expected cryptographic properties. This occurs in the sponge function interface.
09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> guess which lang uses?
09:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :monkalaugh:
09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <chillerdragon> Java?
09:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> bruh-st
09:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Voxel> oh wait nvm
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> wait idk does java even have buffer overflows?
10:05 <+ChillerDragon> I use "WIKI HOW WITH IMAGES" more than I would like to admit :D
10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> the jvm can have, but the code you write can't
10:17 <+ChillerDragon> ou i see
10:18 <+ChillerDragon> omg java seems as unsafe as c++ but also as bloat as python. feels like the worst of both worlds haha
10:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Dude its c
10:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Not java
10:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Why u dum
12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <HamidReza> http: https://info.ddnet.org/info failed. libcurl error: getaddrinfo() thread failed to start
12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <HamidReza> same issue with github idk why its happening
12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <HamidReza> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1032959810645282846/SS.png
12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Github not working either is weird. Maybe check the log on ddnet? It seems curl in general seems to have an issue on your system. Maybe google for the error?
13:17 <+ChillerDragon> yo @Learath2 why is ``Msg_SixToSeven(27)`` -1 and not 27?
13:18 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1666351014.png
13:18 <+ChillerDragon> this one i think
13:19 <+ChillerDragon> does -1 mean same in 0.6 and 0.7?
13:20 <+ChillerDragon> oh wait no wat
13:21 <+ChillerDragon> Nvm it all makes sense
13:21 <+ChillerDragon> 27 is 0.7 NETMSGTYPE_CL_STARTINFO so passing that into SixToSeven makes no sense so somewhere i f*cked up
13:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> no insulting others
13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :justatest:
13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @Ryozuki pls start drama
13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> no
13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> :mmm:
13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :BASED:
13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks rust > vulkan
13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :greenthing:
13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> How dare you
13:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> Can I explicitly opt out of insult protection? 😛
13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> hmm. you can opt out of insult protection in DMs by not reporting it to me
13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> in public channels however…
13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Skeith> Loser
13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 🚔
13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Skeith> :justatest:
13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I'm so sorry Skeith, apparently I can't opt out. You will be sent to the purgatory
13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Skeith> Understood
15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @heinrich5991
15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> I see people using std::rand
15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> it is no longer part of std?
15:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> in rust?
15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> yes
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I'm not aware of that existing
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> maybe pre-1.0
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> https://stackoverflow.com/a/19674981
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> eg
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> they use std::rand
15:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> > Editor's note: This answer is for a version of Rust prior to 1.0 and is not valid in Rust 1.0.
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> ah
15:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> well he wasn't the only one to have that, so I was wondering
15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> use that rand crate, I guess
15:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> yes that's what i'll do
16:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks do u expect a lot of perf improvement from a 3200mhz to a 4000mhz ram?
16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Learath2> I heard Zen architecture of AMD benefits a lot more from faster ram than Intel. So I’d guess that depends a lot on the architecture
16:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Well i use latest ryzen
17:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah a bit, maybe around 5%
17:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also depends lot on the program/game
17:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Compiling?
17:26 <+ChillerDragon> OMG DID RYO CAL ME DUM HEINRICH HALP
17:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> mhh dunno, maybe too cpu bound, just look at phoronix, they probs have benchmarks
17:28 <+ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ 0.7 skins in ddnet when?
17:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
17:28 <+ChillerDragon> THIS SUMMER!?
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> the skin system defs cool. but 0.7 skins look trash
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also it makes skins lot more complicated.. e.g. no more database like we have now
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so i guess just implement the skin system chiller
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> this spring
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> the spring this year
17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> why can't we have a db for 0.7?
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> who said that
17:30 <+ChillerDragon> we can not have a db for 0.7 like we have a db for 0.6
17:30 <+ChillerDragon> would be a diff db
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> no more database like now = no finished skins are shown
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> see e.g. #📬submit-skins
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> > e.g. no more database like we have now
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I interpreted this as such
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> but I understand your point now
17:30 <+ChillerDragon> u dum
17:30 <+ChillerDragon> hehehehehehe
17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i mean ppl probs want the amount of customization anyway
17:31 <+ChillerDragon> ryo teached me that
17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> and we will have both like 0.7 anyway
17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so probs fine
17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> *taught
17:31 <+ChillerDragon> thanks english sensei
17:31 <+ChillerDragon> UwU
17:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> chiller: you can only be insulted by dumb, if you aren't dumb, else its no insult 😉
17:31 <+ChillerDragon> since when
17:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> since IQ > 90
17:32 <+ChillerDragon> so everytime my insult is not true it is not a insult?
17:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah then its a fact xD
17:32 <+ChillerDragon> thats handy
17:32 <+ChillerDragon> so heinrich can not prosecute me
17:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> whether stuff is true or not has little influence on whether it's an insult
17:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> try it out
17:33 <+ChillerDragon> i have legal high ground due to pro lawyer jupstar being on my side
17:33 <+ChillerDragon> wat u gona do
17:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah
17:33 <+ChillerDragon> anyways im sure we can figure something out for the skins
17:34 <+ChillerDragon> like we already said somehow crack 0.6 skins into 0.7 format
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i can ensure you, you'll get banned without any kind of legal consequences
17:34 <+ChillerDragon> but what I would need you for is make the cleint skin menu not render 0.7 skins in black but in colors :( 
17:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> well rip
17:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i still have 0.6 to 0.7 skin converter btw
17:35 <+ChillerDragon> im sure you can throw some vulkan at the problem
17:35 <+ChillerDragon> ou u already have one nice
17:35 <+ChillerDragon> so we done
17:35 <+ChillerDragon> so only some pro has to fix this https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1666366443.png
17:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds_skin_converter_06_to_07
17:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
17:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> eyes not perfect, but still a beginning, tho its like 5000 years old
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> if they black
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> give them color
17:36 <+ChillerDragon> how
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> black = 0
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 0 * number = 0
17:36 <+ChillerDragon> isnt that offensive?
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> make them white
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i dunno
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> isnt it a fact?
17:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 😉
17:36 <+ChillerDragon> isnt ``black = 0`` banned these days?
17:36 <+ChillerDragon> since github switched to main branches and stuff
17:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so u say dark white?
17:37 <+ChillerDragon> politcal correct code
17:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> white = very light grey
17:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> black = very dark grey?
17:37 <+ChillerDragon> da
17:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> lim light from 0 to inf of grey
17:38 <+ChillerDragon> eww maffs
17:38 <+ChillerDragon> there are only 50 shades of grey not inf -.-
17:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> so where is ur skin pr
17:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i can quickly look why its black
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> takes me 5 seconds
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5660
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5660
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> this?
17:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> is the code up to date?
17:41 <+ChillerDragon> want me to merge da thing w master?
17:42 <+ChillerDragon> or rebase i guess
17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah
17:42 <+ChillerDragon> oke lemme cleanup ma workin tree first
17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> git stash
17:42 <+ChillerDragon> then it ends up in the long list of forgotton stashes
17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> Yeee
17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1033042696371175535/20221021_171203.jpg
17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> or `git worktree add chiller_skins7 /tmp/chiller_skins7` to check it out to /tmp
17:43 <+ChillerDragon> okay now that sounds fancy
17:43 <+ChillerDragon> worktree add!?
17:43 <+ChillerDragon> i should git gud
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> im a bit scared i will just run it xd
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> how would i get back?
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> git worktree remove?
17:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> `rm -r /tmp/chiller_skins7`
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> a
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> hm okay wish me luck
17:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u didnt bind a texture
17:44 <+ChillerDragon> he alr has it xd
17:45 <+ChillerDragon> before i understood git 101
17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> do i need to use 0.7 skins or are they in?
17:45 <+ChillerDragon> ok fuck it ima stash
17:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> (ah, apparently `git worktree remove` also exists)
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> make sure to implement the sizing logic for 0.7 skins too
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> gosh those annoying conflicts
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> else they aren't perfectly centered in scoreboard in chat like 0.6 skins
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> feels like this is gonna take some time
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> and that's a disaster
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> lzma
17:47 <+ChillerDragon> ok du model
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Reminds me of ligma
17:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> But its just a compression algoritgm
17:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> You got lzma?
17:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :BASED:
17:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> lzma or lzma2 xd
17:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Idk xd
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> i think i hacked the conflict
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> so wat about that texture now
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> how to fix
17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah how do i include them?
17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> copy from 0.7 client?
17:50 <+ChillerDragon> ah u miss files or what?
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> o
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> eh idk its so long ago i either slapped them into ./data or ~/.teeworlds
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> omg build issues
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> changed apis
17:51 <+ChillerDragon> ddnet so unstable
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> we should do the wireshark approach api changing prs should ship a fix script :p
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ah
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> looking at you herr müller github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/95550fd6a9c608e612343d9079a69de8a91d5c82
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> u render the front skin first
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> then the back
17:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> clever chiller
17:52 <+ChillerDragon> o
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> i see
17:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> link to that wireshark approach?
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> fakof -.-
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> you dont know that heinrich!?
17:53 <+ChillerDragon> sec
17:56 <+ChillerDragon> shit i dont find it anymore but i remember when i looked into dissectors i copied some code from stackoverflow that didnt compile and googling the error message showed the api changing commit that renamed a function. The commit also included a script that you can run on a codebase to rename all method calls
17:58 <+ChillerDragon> okay either im blind af or this is far less common than i thought
18:05 <+ChillerDragon> oke so where is front and back being renderd? c:
18:11 <+ChillerDragon> OMG THANKS JOPSTAR U SO SMORT https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1666368602.png
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also make sure to split all parts into own textures
18:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> else its not pixel perfect anymore like 0.6 skins are
18:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also ddnet requires the dilate tool to prevent artifacts
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> also check image dimensions
18:19 <+ChillerDragon> ye thanks but 1 character code is enough skins for today
18:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> like 0.6 skins
18:19 <+ChillerDragon> ima give the 0.7 tokens a bit of love now then i rq
18:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @heinrich5991 oh btw did you have time to look at ws dissector?
18:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> the dll issue
18:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> it should be fixed
18:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/issues/61
19:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @heinrich5991 amazing ! will test that out
19:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> tell me about the results
20:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://twitter.com/LinaAsahi/status/1583498896847667216
20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://twitter.com/LinaAsahi/status/1583498900802895879
20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> gigachad vtuber
20:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks ^
20:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> wasnt that person writing drivers?
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yeah
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> the gpu driver for apple
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> m1
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> how is that related to the kernel?
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> its a kernel driver?
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> yeah but its not kernel code, its a driver that uses kernel code
20:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> anyway, its nice that this project exists
20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i would say this is tighly coupled
20:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> up to a certain points probably yes
20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but if i think of a kernel i'd think of it like this:
20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> you add any kind of bug. u doomed
20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> anyway point still stands
20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i dunno, i understand that rusts solve lots of problems. but this post sounds like fanboyism
20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> a claim without any kind of proof
20:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> but that's probs a general problem with twitter
20:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowloris_(computer_security)
20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> instead of going fast u go slow xd
20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> and has cool logo xD
20:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> @Ryozuki Asahi always streams for 10-12h
20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> 
20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> imagine having such motivation and skill
20:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> would be epic
20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ye
21:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> @Not Keks https://twitter.com/linaasahi/status/1583444549648543744
21:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> pog
21:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33288706
21:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> nice godot might already work 😄
21:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> I was thinking, while working on dfng, using DDRace teams to have multiple teams instead of 2. By making CTeamsCore::CanCollide always return true (game/teamscore.cpp) it works as expected server-side, but the client makes inaccurate predictions. It could be fixed by using an appropriately modified client. Since already there is a flag for fng predictions, would it be worth introducing something similar for dfng? (I'm not asking about upst
21:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> If such a flag is introduced, making dfng compatible with ddrace (by using other tile ids for spikes) is worth considering (maybe also adding new types of spikes as well)
21:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> you're using ddnet teams for fng teams. you're doing that so that you can have more than 2 teams?
21:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> yeah
21:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> I wouldn't be opposed to a flag saying that all ddnet teams share the same game world
21:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> not sure if that's hard to do, client-side, though
21:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> I think modifying `game/teamscore.ccp:CTeamsCore::CanCollide()` would suffice
21:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> how does it work with super
21:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> After having performed a quick test, it doesn't seem it would suffice though.
22:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> Yeah with super it work as expected :D
22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> i mean how does it work technically
22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> does the client simply know who is super xd
22:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> it seems that the clients knows when someone is super
22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> let look at the code
22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> ah yeah i think it was like team -2
22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Jupstar ✪> smth like that
22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> let me look at the code
22:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Mr.Gh0s7> not totally sure but `TEAM_SUPER` is defined as `= MAX_CLIENTS` at `teamscore.h`
23:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> @ReiTW did the dissector work?
23:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> @heinrich5991 works perfectly
23:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ReiTW> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1033136912904499200/unknown.png