08:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xa 08:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] time to learn 6502 asm 09:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why? It is fun, but not much use to it 09:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Are you porting ddnet to NES? 😄 09:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is there some tooling to turn proprietary binarys into compilable code? My employer forces me to run the zoom desktop app -.- I would feel way less comfortable if I could generate some C code with ghidra or something like that that then compiles into zoom is that possible? 09:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is there some tooling to turn proprietary binarys into compilable code? My employer forces me to run the zoom desktop app -.- I would feel way less uncomfortable if I could generate some C code with ghidra or something like that that then compiles into zoom is that possible? 09:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] what's the point 09:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean even if you decompile their binaries you'd still have to check for some shit 09:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] and you already know how bad zoom is 09:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] its just emotional at this point 09:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i understand that i would not have variable names etc but at least i could try chaning some shit and recimpile right? 09:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] sounds easier to me than hook into the raw binary 09:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] still what's the point 09:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] 1st you can break the app itself, 2nd afterall you send your data to them 09:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye i wont get around 2nd i accepted that even for discord still i feel much better here 09:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont understand 1st? 09:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] at my job the guy in charge of the cybersec asked to disallow zoom, we got forced by the administration 09:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do you know if its possible? 09:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] Does decompiled code compile to a similar functioning binary? 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, that's generally not possible 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't you use the web version of zoom?? 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't you use the web version of zoom? 09:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] they use some dark patterns to not show you the web version, but I've generally been able to use that 09:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] omg shit 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] is the web version new btw? Last time i checked it was not a thing 09:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] then im sending all my cookies to zoom o.O 09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] the web version is at least as old as the pandemic AFAIK 09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh wow 09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] weird 09:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] they do use some dark patterns to steer you away from it 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is that xd 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] like only showing you after you interacted enough with the site to show that you 'tried launching the desktop app' 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] cookies are something the zoom webservers ask you to send back when you reconnect 09:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can launch it in private mode to disconnect your sessions 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] the zoom web app, in a private browser window, I mean 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ghidras decompiler is very capable, but even that isn't remotely close to producing fully compileable code, let alone a complete reproduction 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh sad 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] mr NSA entered the conversation 09:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] you contributed to ghidra didnt you xd? 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] the web app looks kinda functional still would be cool to run a selfcompiled desktop app instead 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have bad news for you: v 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have bad news for you: https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/pull/1889 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] et tu mi fili 09:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] joke 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think its cool 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Me and @heinrich5991 are coworkers?? 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] OwO 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] o/ 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] onlything bad about ghidra is java \:D 09:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] rest is fine 09:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] Accursed Java why must it become popular 😭 09:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] so bois then get to work and fix ghidra decompiler 09:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks 09:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] How do normal humans wake up and be operational this early in the morning?? 09:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] its 10 in my timezone 09:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also 10 here, woke up at 8 09:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] isnt it fair to assume to be functional 2h after waking up!? 09:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] its my prime 09:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe I have some sort of brain damage 09:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] no u just proper hacker who works in da nite 09:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] with mate and hoodie 09:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] and im soy dev with morning routine and starbucks coffe 09:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] using nodejs and vscode 09:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait Learath are you on mac rn? 09:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] Phone, waiting for lecture 09:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3 hour lecture on circuit theory :AnyaSob: 09:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] go leak what lecture 09:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] is it any fun? 09:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh boi 09:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's more fun than math analysis. Less fun than any computer related lecture 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] pog 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm also starving 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] was asking about if u got enough hotdogs 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also cant get food because the vending machines only take coins... who tf uses coins? 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] the 3 lectures i visted i was always eating a lot of shit \:D 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i do use coins! 09:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] imagine using digitally tracable payment methods -.- 09:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is one thing I never really changed my habits on despite multiple people asking me to go back to cash 09:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] It is just so damn convenient to use some sort of contactless payment, I cant imagine going back to carrying a bunch of banknotes and coins 09:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] i just never went there 09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Probably the best way if you want to steer clear. Once you get to that point it's hard to go back 😄 09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well I don't buy anything I wouldn't want daddy government to know, so it's fine-ish 09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] wrong mindset 09:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] It truly is, but that's the rationalization I'll go for 09:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ye tell me about going back \:D Im trying to get rid of my smartphone since years wout success 09:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] To learn more assembly idk 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Getting rid of smartphone is probably the hardest. I use it for just so many things. Imagine going back to SMS and no internet access 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki\: reverse zoom to c code to learn assembly thanks 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Im not touching c when i have rust 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] or better no phone at all 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@Learath2) 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] rust also fine 09:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@Ryozuki) 09:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] 8086, 68k, z80, 6502 all have interesting assemblies 10:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] :greenthing: 10:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Isnt zoom a electron app? 10:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk 10:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] I thought it wasn't 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://githubcopilotinvestigation.com/ 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33240341 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] 800 comments 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] Contributor to Racket 😭 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] stupidity at its top level 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] The cursedest of all programming languages 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 do you know if you can use e.g a gpl license on ur software but disallow usage explocitly from a person or company, such as m$m 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 do you know if you can use e.g a gpl license on ur software but disallow usage explocitly from a person or company, such as m$? 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ppl do all sort of things with it tho iirc 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] nah 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@Ryozuki) 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont want m$ to use any of my code :BASED: 10:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] I pity those poor souls 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk, don't use copilot then 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] afterall for me this utility is useless af 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] $ file /opt/zoom/ZoomLauncher 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] /opt/zoom/ZoomLauncher: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=8868e8fd56531917cf589d959503c78db71030d9, stripped 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont use it 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Bro 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] making people just lazy af 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Its not about using it 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] U got it all wrong 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Its about them using copyrighted work to train it 10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] And it also spits out copyrighted code 10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] so you mean that they can use your written by hand code to train 10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] They do already 10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] not really. and it doesn't do anything about the copilot thing anyway. anything that it'd do would already be done by the gpl 10:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hence the action class lawswit they wanna make 10:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe it is explicitly told by github about that 10:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk 10:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] ??? 10:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Copilot uses code from all github repos 10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] that you have to be aware that using copilot helps it to learn 10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah 10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] well that's different then 10:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] They never asked 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] that sucks lmao 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] the tod asks that your code can be used for github‘s services. copilot is such a github service 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] so they are legally safe? \:D doubt it works that way 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can not have ToS that overrule code licenses, can you? 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] court has to decide that 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it's you uploading your code to their platform, they can ask you to license things 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Whenever there is a grey area, you can almost always be sure US courts will decide with the corporate overlords 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] it gets a little muddy when you upload other people's code, which is usually the case for GPLed software projects 10:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] So if i mirror the linux kernel on github i actually broke the kernels license and donated to code to ms?! xd 10:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has nothing to do with license is what i would argue as github, the suggestions copilot gives do not have any specific license. you as the user are responsible (and good luck finding out where the code came from) 10:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] how can they not have a license if its a snipped out of licensed code? That does not sound valid. 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can argue the system just learned by reading the code 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] its copying it 1/1 with comments 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] > how can they not have a license if its a snipped out of licensed code? That does not sound valid. 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] no license means you can't use it. not that you can do whatever you want with it 10:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you manually read someone else‘s code of a project, and then a few months later code something similar based on what you learned, is that against the license? 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats why i dont read code where i dont agree with the license 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@deen) 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] (playing devil‘s advocate, i don‘t like copilot much) 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends on how much lawyers you and the other person have 10:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends on how many lawyers you and the other person have 10:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] im sure it can bend you over 10:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ye there is no way m$ is getting into any trouble \:D 10:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] I heard some programmers not being allowed to read code as to not break copyright somewhere 10:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] would be cool if there was some sort of open project that you can train on your own code. Which gives you a context based pasted from your old projects \:) 10:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats why restrictive licenses are so ugly 10:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] only to be cautious 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can always steal from your own code 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://twitter.com/docsparse/status/1581461734665367554 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] çcheck this out 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it takes time to find your own code 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] even if it had restrictive licensing 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Clean room implementations used to be more common back when corporations had an iron grip on all code 10:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] There was a huge mess between the first open bsds and at&t 10:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] Does anyone here know a good self hosted http tunnel 10:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] To receive webhooks locally for example 10:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Why not just nginx? 10:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean receive a http request from a public facing server and pass it to my local machine 10:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Does nginx do that? 10:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nginx can proxy stuff, sure. proxy_pass is the keyword 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ohh 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] U can then pog 10:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://gist.github.com/gdamjan/4586758 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nice idea mixing it with ssh 10:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] it seems that to make rust link the tests on windows, I need the C++ code compiled with /MD (dynamically linked, release c stdlib). we're currently compiling with /MT (statically linked, release c stdlib) for release and /MTd (statically linked, debug c stdlib) 10:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is the difference between "release" c stdlib and "debug" c stdlib on windows? 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Win up to $1000 in crypto trading when you invest with just the minimum of $50 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Signup and start investing your crypto with. 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 💎NO STRESS 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 💎NO REFERRAL NEEDED!! 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 💎NO REGISTRATION FEE!! 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] 10:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://t.me/Stevecoldham001 11:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] no idea 11:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Uh, I vaguely remember the debug one having range checks and stuff 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1031870195075129344/RDT_20221018_120335133104309404922431.jpg 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] green CI: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5599 ! 12:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen could you try compiling it again? 🙂 13:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2022/no-congress-2022 😦 13:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] do we want to vendor our rust dependencies? into the main repo? into a submodule? 13:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] there's a `cargo vendor` which would make it very easy 13:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] have to board flight first, i‘ll check later today or tomorrow 13:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] sure, thanks 🙂 13:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] where do you fly? if you don't mind sharing 13:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] back home from palermo to karlsruhe 13:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet airlines 13:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet airline 13:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] any RegEx pros? How do i make sure 2 numbers are equal, here is my expression: `\d{1,32}on\d{1,32}`, i want to make sure both numbers are equal, im new to regex and was confused by number of tokens, didn't find something useful for my case 13:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] i don‘t think you can, would need some extension so probably depends on the regex engine 13:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] just collect them both as groups and compare them later in your regular code 13:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] k, thanks 13:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Backreferences are the keyword you are looking for, if you want to check if your regex implementation has them 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but not a regex in the strict compsci sense then anymore 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yep 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] It'd need to be a pushdown automata atleast, right? 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] my uni classes are too long ago 13:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] based on google seems so 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] did you try coffee 😄 ? 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not the best idea on an empty stomach 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] coffee + croissant then 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Mh, I guess. Q croissant alone maketh not breakfast 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] `(\d{1,32})on\1` for a (not quite) regex engine supporting backreferences 14:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think(tm) this sort of regex engine is usually vulnerable to stuff like catastrophic backtracking. So I'd really suggest what deen suggested 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] it is, but usually not on all regexes ^^ 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] the regex engine shipped with python is vulnerable to catastrophic backtracking, for example 14:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] working perfectly, thanks ^^ 14:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] ```cl_auto_demo_on_connect Only start a new demo when connect while automatically record demos``` 14:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] Does somebody have a better explanation for this command? 15:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] is there a way to send motd silently, so it wont pop up to user? 15:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] What use would it have? 15:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] well, i thought to use it as updating server info 15:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think you can just send serverinfo and the client should update it properly. What does motd have to do with that? 15:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] im about custom server info, just any changing info, its not that necessary to use broadcast or chat for displaying it, so i thought of motd 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Mh, idk if sending a motd message makes it pop up 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] yep, definitely 15:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok, then I don't think there is a way. But I'll take a quick look 15:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] unfortunately😄 16:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk what was changed but i get only half fps recently in ddrace 16:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] i had like 4000fps normal and now 2000, and when i open scoreboard it even decreases to 500 16:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] its not a big thing but i can feel the input latency abit 16:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] im on opengl 3.3.0 btw 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @uwu you want to display some custom stuff in the server info tab? 16:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] what kind of stuff? 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1031934984468045864/unknown.png 16:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] tf 17:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Try vulkan 17:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, there isnt 17:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] only if cl_motd_time is set to 0, but you cant control that from the server 17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] ```xml 17:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] poggers 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] xml programming! 17:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cs.lmu.edu/~ray/notes/syntaxdesign/ 17:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> You can send motd at any interval for each user ,individually, or silent for someone, or for each his own interval. 17:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> Send me a pm and I'll explain 18:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> You can send motd at any interval for each user ,individually, or silent for someone, or for each his own interval without erasing it from serverinfo motd. 18:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] <𝙺𝚞𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚒𝚘> Send me a pm and I'll explain 18:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cursed 18:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] :pepedead: 18:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] can't wait to have that gpu catch on fire 18:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] have u tried click restart 19:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] restart what? 19:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] windows 19:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] i played the game before i shut down my pc and also after i started my pc so i'd assume a pc restart doesnt change anything 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] no press restart 19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] shutdown -> start is not = restart in windows 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] else try what usually helps 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] try new config 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] clean computer 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] down/up-grade drivers 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] try older ddnet to confirm 19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] close all programs except ddnet 22:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm, ipv6 and ipv4 servers appear twice 22:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] which version? which server name? 22:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] LAN? 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] current trashmap with behemoth2 map 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] 0.6 protocol failed to register via IPv6 for some reason 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] need logs 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] @timakro ^ 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Python pros pm me 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] seems to work on linux and windows, haven't tried mac 23:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] cool 🙂 23:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] is it possible for you to try in the next couple of days as well? the normal build should work, I tried it on some friend's notebook, but I haven't tried the release script 23:55 <+deen> ok